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    Mafia Puzzle!

    Hey all. I figured, why not interest everyone with a puzzle related to the game we all know and love!

    Your mission is this:

    -Find out who is what role based on your notes.
    -You are Crapshoot. You are the Sheriff.
    -Devise a viable plan for the Town to win the game.
    -You may work with other forum members to decipher the clues and figure out who is who and what the Hidden Roles might be.

    Let's get started!




    Here's the setting:

    Game begins at Day 1 (there is no Night 0). Game is currently on Day 5.

    The remaining players in the game are:

    1 ) HuggableBear
    2 ) WhaleFace
    3 ) Bucket of Milk
    4 ) Glass of Water
    5 ) Self-Aware Robot
    6 ) Sinister Panda
    7 ) GazeboOfDoom
    8 ) Unamused Hippo
    9 ) Crapshoot



    The Graveyard is as follows: (dead players always appear in white)

    -N1: AwkwardPlatypus (Investigator) (shot)
    -D2: No lynch.
    -N2: Guilt-Trip Llama (???) (body was cleaned. No last will found.)
    -D3: iPhone 9000 (Consigliere) (lynched)
    -N3: Steven (Citizen) (stabbed)
    -N4: GameOver Man (Witch) (executed in a jail cell)
    -N4: Polkadotted (Doctor) (stabbed)


    And the Role List:

    Godfather
    Random Mafia
    Random Mafia

    Sheriff
    Doctor
    Investigator
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Citizen
    Citizen

    Evil Neutral
    Random Neutral
    Random Neutral


    Possible Random Mafia roles: Consigliere, Consort, Framer, Janitor, Mafioso, Blackmailer, Disguiser

    Possible Random Town roles: Bodyguard, Bus Driver, Citizen, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Investigator, Jailor, Lookout, Mason, Mason Leader, Sheriff, Spy, Veteran, Vigilante

    Possible Random Neutral roles: Amnesiac, Executioner, Jester, Survivor, Witch

    Possible Evil Neutral roles: Arsonist, Cultist, Serial Killer




    Information you have at your disposal:


    You are Crapshoot.

    Your role is Sheriff.

    Night One: Polkadotted is not suspicious.

    Night Two: You were attacked, but you survived your attack due to being nursed back to health by a mysterious stranger! iPhone 9000 is suspicious!

    Day Three
    : You role-claimed on Day 3 after discovering that iPhone 9000 was suspicious!

    You proceeded to lynch iPhone 9000, who turned out to be the Consigliere!

    Night Three
    : Sinister Panda is not suspicious.

    Night Four
    : You were bus driven! UnamusedHippo is not suspicious.

    It is now Day 5.

    Day One Notes:

    -Everyone acted particularly troll-y.
    -Sinister Panda asked to be recruited by a Mason Leader.
    -iPhone 9000 said that Guilt-Trip Llama must die.
    -Steven confirmed that his real name is, indeed, Steven.
    -Bucket of Milk told everyone to shut up.
    -Self-Aware Robot said that he likes hippos.
    -UnamusedHippo was notably unamused.
    -No one else said anything substantial.

    Day Two Notes:
    -GazeboOfDoom claims Sheriff and proclaims that iPhone9000 is mafia.
    -You say that you highly doubt that and say that he is likely Executioner or Jester.
    -iPhone 9000 says that he's not mafia and that GazeboOfDoom is lying or that he was framed.
    -You wonder where the missing kill went since no one claimed attacked.
    -Steven says he doesn't want to go back to prison (WIFOM?).
    -WhaleFace spams the chat with nonsense.
    -Glass Of Water questions whether or not GazeboOfDoom is telling the truth.
    -Polkadotted asks who the Doctor should heal. Is it worth healing Gazebo, who may be Executioner?
    -You suggest yourself as a helpful alternative.
    -Guilt-Trip Llama agrees that GazeboOfDoom is likely Jester/Executioner. He questions HuggableBear, GameOver Man, and Sinister Panda's lack of posting, wondering if one of them might be an Evil Neutral, perhaps Serial Killer or Arsonist.
    -HuggableBear speaks up and says he gives hugs, not stab wounds.
    -Everyone then agrees to skip day.

    Day Three Notes
    -You have discovered that iPhone 9000 is suspicious, but decide to wait a little while to see what others have to say, especially since you were attacked and healed last night.
    -GameOver Man and Self-Aware Robot claim bus driven.
    -Self-Aware Robot thinks there may be a jailor in their midst.
    -UnamusedHippo is curious as to why, as there have been no jailed claims.
    -Polkadotted points out that someone must have been healed, unless the Evil Neutral is an Arsonist, as only the mafia has killed so far.
    -Unamused Hippo states that he is especially not amused.
    -WhaleFace "*smashes face into keyboard*"
    -GazeboOfDoom wants to know if anything else happened to anyone last night.
    -Bucket of Milk states that if anyone wanted them to know what happened they would know by now, but adds that a witch may be afoot.
    -Glass of Water agrees, suggesting that this could be another skip day, but hopes that it isn't.
    -HuggableBear gives hugs to GazeboOfDoom and Unamused Hippo.
    -You decide to step forward with your information and state that you were attacked, healed, that you are the Sheriff, and that iPhone 9000 is suspicious.
    -No one counter claims you and everyone proceeds to lynch him, despite his pleas for mercy.
    *Crapshoot votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    *Self-Aware Robot votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    *Unamused Hippo votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    *Bucket of Milk votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    *HuggableBear votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    *Polkadotted votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    *Glass of Water votes to lynch iPhone 9000
    -iPhone 9000 is hammered.

    Day Four Notes
    -A death note on Steven's body proclaims that Sinister Panda is the Godfather.
    -Sinister Panda vehemently denies that claim. He says that he was attacked on Night One, but that he used a bulletproof vest because he's a Citizen.
    -Glass of Water wonders where all these second kills are going. If Sinister Panda was the intended target N1, then what happened last night?
    -Polkadotted suggests that tomorrow might be role claim day if scum kill two players.
    --GazeboOfDoom decides to pressure vote Sinister Panda, especially since certain members of the Town may go AFK during the day (those mentioned include HuggableBear and WhaleFace, who he says have not contributed very much at all).
    *GazeboOfDoom votes to lynch Sinister Panda
    -Glass Of Water wonders if Sinister Panda was telling the truth about his role and thinks that maybe they should pressure vote the lurkers instead.
    *HuggableBear votes to lynch Sinister Panda
    -You say that the Town has no solid information to go on today and that you may be the only investigative role in play.
    -Bucket of Milk claims bussed.
    *WhaleFace votes to lynch Sinister Panda
    -Self-Aware Robot suggests that they skip day, since they would get more information at night.
    -Unamused Hippo wonders if they should lynch Sinister Panda.
    -By the time everyone is done deliberating, day ends before Sinister Panda receives enough votes.

    Day Five Notes
    -(This spoiler is for people who would like a hint):
    Spoiler : Polkadotted's last will :

    Polkadotted here. If I am dead, then that means I didn't get to use my chainsaw to mow down scum, kufufu.

    Night One: I was bussed with someone. Healed Guilt-Trip Llama.
    Night Two: I healed Crapshoot who asked to be healed. I figured a mafia would not risk such a bold play, and it was a successful heal (hopefully I did not heal the Godfather).
    Night Three: I was jailed. Claimed Doctor to the Jailor. He told me that if he didn't die when he released me (must be thinking I'm Serial Killer), to heal him instead of Crapshoot.
    Night Four: WIFOM heal Crapshoot. Healing the jailor.

    -Death note left with GameOver Man's body: "All lurkers shall be killed. Fail Citizen claim."
    -Bucket of Milk speaks up and says he was attacked and healed the previous night.
    -Sinister Panda says he is not the Godfather and that the Town should look elsewhere for answers.
    -You are not quite sure who to vote for, but you do notice that the scum is growing closer to a majority...what do you do?

    Using the information you have at your disposal, how would you proceed through Day 5? (And, if necessary, the remainder of the game).


    Game Settings


    -Godfather is immune to detection (except for Detectives/Lookouts).
    -Godfather, Serial Killer, Arsonist, and Executioner are all immune at night.
    -Serial Killer will kill role-blockers.
    -Blackmailing silences a player, allowing them to only say, "I am blackmailed" once each day.
    -Disguiser cleans role and last will when disguising.
    -Healing does not prevent dousing, nor igniting.
    -Dousing/Igniting bypasses night immunity.
    -Target will be notified if successfully healed/protected at night.
    -Target will be notified if witched.
    -Target will be notified if bus driven.
    -Target will be notified if role-blocked.
    -Mason Leader can attempt to recruit each night.
    -Targeting a Cultist will kill him/her.
    -Bus Driver can self-target.
    -Spy will see who mafia visits, but not who is doing the visiting.
    -Spy will see night chats at night.
    -Jailing provides complete immunity at night.
    -Jailor can jail on a lynch day, but not execute.
    -Jailor has two executions.
    -Vigilante cannot day shoot.
    -Vigilante cannot shoot on Night One.
    -Veteran can go on alert a total of 2 times.
    -Survivor has 3 bulletproof vests.
    -Executioner must get a random Town lynched.
    -Amnesiac's role will be told to the Town once remembered.
    -Witch will force Jailor to execute (even on lynch day), force Vigilante to shoot, force Bus Driver to swap only chosen target, force SK/GF to kill.
    -Citizens have 1 bulletproof vest.
    -Sheriff detects all Evil Neutrals.
    -Investigator/Consigliere receives the usual pairings.
    -Order of Operations are equal to SC2Mafia.


    Feel free to ask questions.
    Last edited by Escaho; June 20th, 2012 at 11:48 AM.
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    lol at doctor asking who to heal and whaleface.
    I love oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    What kind of settings are we dealing with here? Does the SK kill roleblockers? Is the Godfather immune to detection, etc. etc.

    Did the game start at Day, or at Night? That's rather important.
    Updated with settings. If you have more questions, feel free to ask away.

    Game started at Day 1.
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    On Day Five, is Bucket saying he was attacked and healed night 4, or night 3?
    Bucket is saying he was attacked on Night Four.
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    Your roles list says that there are 16 roles in the game, but according to players remaining and the graveyard, there are only 15 players?
    Had it edited in my notes, but not in the post. One Citizen has been removed (not supposed to be there).
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Just want to be sure the notes are correct. Polkadotted and GameOver Man were both killed on Night 4, the same night that Bucket claims to have been attacked and healed?

    Also, you forgot some important settings. Does the disguiser clean the role of his target when he disguises? Can the Sheriff detect Serial Killers? How many executions does the jailor have?

    Come on man, respond so I can post the solution without double-posting
    Last edited by Glip; June 18th, 2012 at 04:31 PM.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    Just want to be sure the notes are correct. Polkadotted and GameOver Man were both killed on Night 4, the same night that Bucket claims to have been attacked and healed?
    Fixed. GameOver Man's cause of death has been corrected.

    Also, you forgot some important settings. Does the disguiser clean the role of his target when he disguises? Can the Sheriff detect Serial Killers? How many executions does the jailor have?
    Updated. Short answer: Yes, yes, and two.


    In addition, moved some Notes from Day 5 to Day 3 and Day 4.

    I think everything fits now.
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    Alright, here's what I've got.

    Spoiler : Roles List and Player's Roles :

    Godfather - UnamusedHippo
    Disguiser - Guilt-Trip Llama/GazeboOfDoom
    Consigliere - iPhone9000
    Sheriff - Crapshoot
    Doctor - Polkadotted
    Investigator - AwkwardPlatypus
    Sheriff - GazeboOfDoom/Guilt-Trip Llama
    Jailor - Glass Of Water
    Bus Driver - HuggableBear
    Random Town... Investigator? - Self-Aware Robot
    Citizen - Steven
    Citizen - Sinister Panda
    Serial Killer - Bucket of Milk
    Jester - WhaleFace
    Witch - GameOver Man


    Spoiler : Game Plan :
    Say to the town "We have a jailor, and whoever the jailor jailed night 2 is the Godfather. We should not lynch anyone and let the jailor jail/exe the GF. Llama was a disguiser, and disguised himself as Gazebo." (A role claim can work here, now, to find the SK, but that's no fun. Let's try without everyone claiming roles.) Tell the town, "Bus Driver, bus me with Bucket of Milk so he can't kill me if he's the SK. Everyone follow this plan and town will win." At this point, everyone should vote to skip day.

    Set your last will to "If I die, HuggableBear is the SK." and check HuggableBear.


    Further game plan can't really be decided until the results of Night Five are known.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kovath View Post
    Glip: you list in your role list that HuggableBear is the Bus Driver. However, your gameplan has him as SK. I agree with your SK assessment, but would like you to confirm which one you mean.
    Roles List isn't certain. That's just my best guess for everyone at the time. However, if I'm bussed with Bucket and am killed by the SK, then Bucket can't be the SK, and someone else must be. My secondary guess for SK is HuggableBear, as he had guilty knowledge of there being an SK before anyone was killed by one. "I give hugs, not stab wounds."

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    Alright, here's what I've got.

    Spoiler : Roles List and Player's Roles :

    Godfather - UnamusedHippo
    Disguiser - Guilt-Trip Llama/GazeboOfDoom
    Consigliere - iPhone9000
    Sheriff - Crapshoot
    Doctor - Polkadotted
    Investigator - AwkwardPlatypus
    Sheriff - GazeboOfDoom/Guilt-Trip Llama
    Jailor - Glass Of Water
    Bus Driver - HuggableBear
    Random Town... Investigator? - Self-Aware Robot
    Citizen - Steven
    Citizen - Sinister Panda
    Serial Killer - Bucket of Milk
    Jester - WhaleFace
    Witch - GameOver Man


    Spoiler : Game Plan :
    Say to the town "We have a jailor, and whoever the jailor jailed night 2 is the Godfather. We should not lynch anyone and let the jailor jail/exe the GF. Llama was a disguiser, and disguised himself as Gazebo." (A role claim can work here, now, to find the SK, but that's no fun. Let's try without everyone claiming roles.) Tell the town, "Bus Driver, bus me with Bucket of Milk so he can't kill me if he's the SK. Everyone follow this plan and town will win." At this point, everyone should vote to skip day.

    Set your last will to "If I die, HuggableBear is the SK." and check HuggableBear.


    Further game plan can't really be decided until the results of Night Five are known.
    You are under the assumption that Night Five has not yet happened, that it is currently the middle of Day Five and you may still lynch someone.
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Escaho View Post
    You are under the assumption that Night Five has not yet happened, that it is currently the middle of Day Five and you may still lynch someone.
    ...Yes, I am? You said the game started at day, and that it is currently day 5. That means night 5 hasn't happened yet. Your question is how would we proceed through day 5, so obviously day 5 isn't over yet, and we still have the chance to lynch someone or not. As I said, I vote we lynch no one and let the jailor jail/exe whoever he jailed on Night 2.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    ...Yes, I am? You said the game started at day, and that it is currently day 5. That means night 5 hasn't happened yet. Your question is how would we proceed through day 5, so obviously day 5 isn't over yet, and we still have the chance to lynch someone or not. As I said, I vote we lynch no one and let the jailor jail/exe whoever he jailed on Night 2.
    Why not just lynch Gazebo? If Sheriff is indeed not a possible random Town role, then Gazebo was lying about his sheriff claim on Day 2, cannot be executioner (because exec must have town target) and somehow pinpointed a mafia as a target. In that case, then he was trying to paint himself as an executioner and the consig as an exec (town) target.

    If sheriff is possible, it's still likely that he was disguised, especially because he had no further information on the following days and if he had claimed Day 2 there was no reason to contribute his results. A sheriff needs to take a role as town leader, and he was very hesitant and indecisive in his play. i.e. He was a disguiser trying to not slip up in his guise as sheriff.
    Death, yet the Town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovath View Post
    Why not just lynch Gazebo? If Sheriff is indeed not a possible random Town role, then Gazebo was lying about his sheriff claim on Day 2, cannot be executioner (because exec must have town target) and somehow pinpointed a mafia as a target. In that case, then he was trying to paint himself as an executioner and the consig as an exec (town) target.

    If sheriff is possible, it's still likely that he was disguised, especially because he had no further information on the following days and if he had claimed Day 2 there was no reason to contribute his results. A sheriff needs to take a role as town leader, and he was very hesitant and indecisive in his play. i.e. He was a disguiser trying to not slip up in his guise as sheriff.
    I didn't even notice that Sheriff wasn't listed in possible Random Towns. I believe it should be, though, if this is representing an SC2 Mafia game, as Sheriff can't be solely excluded from Randoms.

    Anywho, I say don't lynch Gazebo because the Godfather is known to the Jailor. If we lynch Gazebo, then the Jailor will be unable to jail the Godfather, and both the SK and GF will kill that night. If we don't lynch Gazebo, the jailor can jail and execute the godfather, and then only the SK will kill that night.
    Last edited by Glip; June 18th, 2012 at 05:33 PM.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kovath View Post
    Of course there is the possibility that the n2 cleaned kill was from a janitor cleaning, and the GF was out of jail... and you were attacked by the SK.
    Doesn't make any sense for the janitor to only clean Llama, and not Platypus, although I will admit it is possible.

    Also, since Escaho moved some of the clues around, I'm starting to doubt my roles list. Will need some time to rethink.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    ...Yes, I am? You said the game started at day, and that it is currently day 5. That means night 5 hasn't happened yet. Your question is how would we proceed through day 5, so obviously day 5 isn't over yet, and we still have the chance to lynch someone or not. As I said, I vote we lynch no one and let the jailor jail/exe whoever he jailed on Night 2.
    Lol, I meant to say, "Are you under the assumption that..." not "You are under the assumption that..."
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Bucket of Milk for Godfather.
    Has this been considered? That is just first thought at initial look.
    Also, I think we are looking for a Janitor, if that wasn't discussed. We know there is an SK, there was no SK kill, and we were healed N2. I think mafia was just trying to lead town to assume Disguiser by cleaning once.
    Last edited by creedkingsx; June 18th, 2012 at 06:03 PM.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    Bucket of Milk for Godfather.
    Has this been considered? That is just first thought at initial look.
    Bucket of Milk was hit by the maf on Night 4, or else he sacrificed a potential kill that night just to claim he was attacked. It is possible, but not a very smart move in my opinion. It's also possible that he hit the witch along with the jailor, but that is also unlikely. GameOver Man was one of the lurking neutrals that the Mafia was trying to call out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    Bucket of Milk was hit by the maf on Night 4, or else he sacrificed a potential kill that night just to claim he was attacked. It is possible, but not a very smart move in my opinion.
    I edited my lst post, just to point out ^^
    I think he targeted us, got bussed with us, hit himself and was immune. WIFOM healed after seeing the doctor was killed. ezpz

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    Quote Originally Posted by creedkingsx View Post
    I edited my lst post, just to point out ^^
    I think he targeted us, got bussed with us, hit himself and was immune. WIFOM healed after seeing the doctor was killed. ezpz
    He claimed being bussed on night 3, and didn't claim being bussed on night 4. I believe he would have claimed being bussed again if he was, along with being attacked and healed. Although as always, what you said is still possible

    I believe he is SK, killed Polkadotted, was hit by maf, and claimed being healed after seeing the doctor was killed to make himself seem not suspicious. (Doctor couldn't counterclaim, he was dead. Mafia couldn't counterclaim without outing themselves.)

    I don't believe he was legitimately healed because Polkadotted has proven himself to not be a very smart Doctor, and probably stayed on Crapshoot the entire game.

    I also believe there isn't a second doc from the randoms because they should have been healing Polkadotted, and weren't.
    Last edited by Glip; June 18th, 2012 at 06:17 PM.

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    Okay, I derped like hell.

    I went through everything again and there was one mistake:

    You (Crapshoot) were NOT bussed on Night Three.

    (And, obviously, I added Sheriff to possible roles list.)
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Escaho View Post
    Okay, I derped like hell.

    I went through everything again and there was one mistake:

    You (Crapshoot) were NOT bussed on Night Three.

    (And, obviously, I added Sheriff to possible roles list.)
    Ugh, so Bucket isn't the SK after all then. He's a random town, and can't be the bus driver, and I don't think he's the jailor either.

    Which means that Robot can't be a random town, yet is still eager to get to night. SK much?
    Last edited by Glip; June 18th, 2012 at 07:00 PM.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Spoiler : Role List :
    Godfather - Self-Aware Robot?
    Random Mafia - Consigliere - iPhone 9000
    Random Mafia - Disguiser? - WhaleFace?
    Sheriff - Crapshoot
    Doctor - Polkadotted
    Investigator - AwkwardPlatypus
    Random Town - Bus Driver - Bucket of Milk?
    Random Town - Jailor - Glass of Milk?
    Random Town - Doctor? - Unamused Hippo?
    Random Town - ??? ? - Guilt-Trip Llama?
    Citizen - Steven
    Citizen - Sinister Panda?
    Evil Neutral - Serial Killer - GazeboOfDoom?
    Random Neutral - Witch - GameOver Man?
    Random Neutral - Jester? - HuggableBear?

    ? after name/role means that those are not 100% confirmed


    Spoiler : Plan :
    D5: Lynch SK to remove a kpn.
    N5: Doc on Jailor, BD WIFOM protects Doc, Sheriff and himself.
    Worst case one in between Doc/Sheriff/BD dies.
    D6: Skip for Jailor to jail GF.
    N6: Jailor jails GF and keeps doing it until Town wins the tie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyr View Post
    Spoiler : Role List :
    Godfather - Self-Aware Robot?
    Random Mafia - Consigliere - iPhone 9000
    Random Mafia - Disguiser? - WhaleFace?
    Sheriff - Crapshoot
    Doctor - Polkadotted
    Investigator - AwkwardPlatypus
    Random Town - Bus Driver - Bucket of Milk?
    Random Town - Jailor - Glass of Milk?
    Random Town - Doctor? - Unamused Hippo?
    Random Town - ??? ? - Guilt-Trip Llama?
    Citizen - Steven
    Citizen - Sinister Panda?
    Evil Neutral - Serial Killer - GazeboOfDoom?
    Random Neutral - Witch - GameOver Man?
    Random Neutral - Jester? - HuggableBear?

    ? after name/role means that those are not 100% confirmed


    Spoiler : Plan :
    D5: Lynch SK to remove a kpn.
    N5: Doc on Jailor, BD WIFOM protects Doc, Sheriff and himself.
    Worst case one in between Doc/Sheriff/BD dies.
    D6: Skip for Jailor to jail GF.
    N6: Jailor jails GF and keeps doing it until Town wins the tie.
    Bucket of Milk can't be the Bus Driver. He was witched on a night when two people were bussed.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    Bucket of Milk can't be the Bus Driver. He was witched on a night when two people were bussed.
    That's exactly the reason why I have him as bus driver. One of the two claimers does not correspond with his original night action. That's why he says that there might be a witch. He wanted to switch himself with GameOver Man. He didn't receive the driven feedback message and was therefor witched to drive Self-Aware Robot with GameOver Man.
    Last edited by Phyr; June 18th, 2012 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyr View Post
    That's exactly the reason why I have him as bus driver. One of the two claimers does not correspond with his original night action. That's why he says that there might be a witch.
    When a bus driver is witched, it changes both his targets to the witch's target. There would have been only 1 person bussed.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    When a bus driver is witched, it changes both his targets to the witch's target. There would have been only 1 person bussed.
    In sc2mafia it replaces the first target with that of the witch's choice. I worked under the premise that night actions work like in sc2mafia.

    Do targets know that they were controlled?

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phyr View Post
    In sc2mafia it replaces the first target with that of the witch's choice. I worked under the premise that night actions work like in sc2mafia.
    Oh, really? This is not what I have been told.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    The witch's goal is to make the town lose. A confused town is a losing town.

    Regardless I do not like this suggestion, roleblocking belongs to two roles who have it. And by the way, witch targeting the bus driver already causes a roleblock since she can't make the driver target 2 people, she makes him switch [Player 1] with [Player 1] (for example), same player switched with himself = bus driver has no effect.

    The other witch suggestion is more creative than this.
    Zack lied to me :P.

    In this case, I can believe Bucket is Bus Driver, (Although he still would have known he was witched regardless, victim knows they're controlled is on). I was leaning towards him being Bus Driver at first but had disregarded it because of the witch thing.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    scratch that too sleepy heh
    Last edited by CmG; June 18th, 2012 at 08:26 PM.
    Spoiler : fm history :
    FM 6: Commoner/Legionare(roman)/Legionare(Sin) FM8: Stan Investigator FM9:Yakov German(Sapper) FM10: Fm Rumpel Vigilante FM11: Renekton: Serial Killer FM12: Sandor: citizen = scum FM13: Wicket : Devourer FM14: Torynn: Andrew Ryan (GF)

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by CmG View Post
    There is no jailor lol
    This is another possibilty. Mafia may have purposely only cleaned their second target to make it seem as if the GF was jailed and a disguiser was forced to strike on night 2. Robot was the only one to call attention to the possibility of a jailor. Perhaps he is the Godfather who orchestrated the plan.

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    This is another possibilty. Mafia may have purposely only cleaned their second target to make it seem as if the GF was jailed and a disguiser was forced to strike on night 2. Robot was the only one to call attention to the possibility of a jailor. Perhaps he is the Godfather who orchestrated the plan.
    And the Witch died due to a mod trolling the game and faking a death description instead of lightning raining from the sky?

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    -dayshoot phyr
    Spoiler : fm history :
    FM 6: Commoner/Legionare(roman)/Legionare(Sin) FM8: Stan Investigator FM9:Yakov German(Sapper) FM10: Fm Rumpel Vigilante FM11: Renekton: Serial Killer FM12: Sandor: citizen = scum FM13: Wicket : Devourer FM14: Torynn: Andrew Ryan (GF)

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    unamused hyppo jailor, that robot is another investigator or was jailed n2, he can't be sk in that case but is probably godfather so the disguiser had to disguise in the night he was jailed.

    the witch likes to make targets target themself what a noob. I would have killed her too

    the witch was attacked while she was jailkilled.
    Last edited by CmG; June 18th, 2012 at 08:38 PM.
    Spoiler : fm history :
    FM 6: Commoner/Legionare(roman)/Legionare(Sin) FM8: Stan Investigator FM9:Yakov German(Sapper) FM10: Fm Rumpel Vigilante FM11: Renekton: Serial Killer FM12: Sandor: citizen = scum FM13: Wicket : Devourer FM14: Torynn: Andrew Ryan (GF)

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    If you'd all like a pretty big hint, I can leave you Polkadotted's last will.
    M-FMIII: Lookout (WIN!) | M-FMIV: SK (WIN!) | M-FMV: Bus Driver (LOSS) (Unintentional MVP Award!) | FM-X: Citizen/Mason (WIN!) | S-FMIII: Vigilante (WIN!) | Cursed Bullet S-FM: Citizen (WIN!) | M-FMVI: SK (WIN!) | Torment S-FM: Citizen (LOSS) | S-FM (GI): Consig (WIN!)
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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    This role list should help.

    Godfather - Sinister Panda?
    Random Mafia- Janitor/Disguiser

    Random Town- Bus Driver
    Random Town- Doctor?
    Random Town- Jailer
    Random Town- ??? - unamused Hippo?
    Citizen- Whaleface??

    Evil Neutral - Serial Killer
    Random Neutral - Survivor??

    Cleaned role - Random Neutral/Disguiser

    Request jailor to execute Sinister Panda, and check Glass of Water.
    Request Busdriver to bus you onto Self Aware Robot.
    Request Doctor to heal unamused Hippo .
    Spoiler : FM History :
    FM8 - Bebe(Citizen) FM9-Prokofi(German Medic) FM10- CptKirk(Citizen) FM11 - Caitlyn(Abstergo Agent/Citizen)
    M-FM1-Veteran(Durante) M-FM2-Detective M-FM 4- Student(Nina Einstein) M-FM6- Armorsmith
    Misc: Why-FOM (M-FM 1), SFM: The Experiment: Hosted

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    Re: Mafia Puzzle!

    I'll keep updating this post until I got the answer.

    Spoiler : Roles List :

    Godfather
    Random Mafia (Consigliere):
    iPhone 9000
    Random Mafia (Janitor/Disguiser)
    Sheriff: Crapshoot
    Doctor: Polkadotted
    Investigator: AwkwardPlatypus
    Random Town (Bus Driver)
    Random Town (Jailor)
    Random Town
    Random Town
    Citizen:
    Steven
    Citizen
    Evil Neutral (Serial Killer)
    Random Neutral (Witch): GameOver Man
    Random Neutral

    Notes:
    (1) Janitor/Disguiser discovered from N2 cleaning
    (2) Bus Driver from being bus driven ourselves
    (3) Jailor from N4 execution
    (4) Serial Killer from N3 kill


    Spoiler : Night actions :

    Bus Driver
    N1:
    N2: GameOver Man - Self-Aware Robot
    N3: Bucket of Milk? -
    N4: Crapshoot -
    * N3 did Bucket of Milk got swapped with Godfather/Serial Killer? N4 maybe Crapshoot and Bucket of Milk

    Witch
    N1
    N2: Bucket of Milk?
    N3:
    N4: jailed and executed
    * Witching is not important because players are being informed

    Jailor

    N1: Steven
    N2:
    N3:
    N4: GameOver Man

    Sheriff

    N1: Polkadotted
    N2: iPhone 9000
    N3: Sinister Panda?
    N4: UnamusedHippo?

    Doctor
    N1:
    N2: Crapshoot
    N3:
    N4: Bucket of Milk?
    * N3 and N4 maybe Crapshoot again. But bussed to Bucket of Milk on N4.

    Serial Killer
    N1: Sinister Panda
    N2: Crapshoot
    N3: Steven
    N4: Polkadotted

    Mafia
    N1: AwkwardPlatypus
    N2: Guilt-Trip Llama?
    N3:
    N4: Bucket of Milk?
    * Was N2 at disguiser kill or janitor cleaning?


    Spoiler : Possibilities :

    (1) Glass of Water and Guilt-Trip Llama tried to protect iPhone 9000 on D2.
    (2) GazeboOfDoom might be disguised if Guilt-Trip Llama is Disguiser.
    (3) Odd for Sinister Panda not to claim attacked on N1 earlier.
    (4) Bucket of Milk might be swapped with Crapshoot on N4. Thus bussed and healed. So cannot be Mafia.
    (5) How did Self-Aware Robot knew about the jailor? He might be an Investigator or the Jailor himself.
    (6) No information on HuggableBear, WhaleFace and Unamused Hippo.


    Spoiler : Remaining Roles List :

    Godfather
    Random Mafia (Janitor/Disguiser)
    Sheriff: Crapshoot
    Random Town (Bus Driver)
    Random Town (Jailor)
    Random Town
    Random Town

    Citizen
    Evil Neutral (Serial Killer)
    Random Neutral

    Notes:
    (1) Due to cleaning, there is one less Random Town, Citizen or Random Neutral. Bus Driver and Jailor confirmed alive after N2.


    Suggestion for town. Role claim.

    If I would hazard a guess...

    Spoiler : Random Guesses :

    Godfather: Sinister Panda
    Random Mafia (Janitor): Glass of Water
    Sheriff: Crapshoot
    Random Town (Bus Driver): HuggableBear
    Random Town (Jailor): Bucket of Milk
    Random Town (Sheriff): GazeboOfDoom
    Citizen: WhaleFace
    Evil Neutral (Serial Killer): Unamused Hippo
    Random Neutral (Amnesiac/Investigator): Self-Aware Robot
    Last edited by Nick; June 19th, 2012 at 08:55 AM.

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