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    Приветствия, fellow SC2 Mafia forum goers.


    'The Brotherhood' (Братство) is recruiting young and eager peoples.

    You must have a hatred for My Little Pony (гей), you must be able to use Google Translator, and you must want to install a communist regime in the SC2 Mafia HQ.


    Join now, while there are still high ranking positions open.

    Until then, comrades,

    продо́лжите бороться за справедливое дело
    Last edited by Bruno; June 17th, 2012 at 08:38 PM.

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    Re: Join 'The Brotherhood'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheJackofSpades View Post
    This system already exists. You look pretty stupid right now.
    We're both twats =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJackofSpades View Post
    No, that's the definition of real-world communism.
    More like real-world regimes that call themselves "communist" to further their propaganda.

    And it's not quite fair to say that attempts to create communism in the real-world will always result in authoritarianism. True communism has happened at various points in history, even now.

    The bottom line is: communism is, by definition, the equality of power and resources. Authoritarianism is, by definition, an inequality of power. Thus, an authoritarian society cannot truly be communist.
    Last edited by oops_ur_dead; June 17th, 2012 at 06:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    More like real-world regimes that call themselves "communist" to further their propaganda.

    And it's not quite fair to say that attempts to create communism in the real-world will always result in authoritarianism. True communism has happened at various points in history, even now.

    The bottom line is: communism is, by definition, the equality of power and resources. Authoritarianism is, by definition, an inequality of power. Thus, an authoritarian society cannot truly be communist.
    True Marxist communism demands a stateless, classless society worldwide.

    Pretty much every communist society has been established under Leninism, and crashed and burned during the transition to communism via dictatorship of the proletariat. They themselves refer to such a system as "socialism", which is viewed as the transition period to communism. And like I said, pretty much every time the revolutionaries become the new dictators instead.

    Edit: Thus, this endgame is and can be considered the definition of "real-world communism", because true communism is never achieved, as the government simply becomes a state capitalist system.
    Last edited by TheJackofSpades; June 17th, 2012 at 07:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJackofSpades View Post
    True Marxist communism demands a stateless, classless society worldwide.

    Pretty much every communist society has been established under Leninism, and crashed and burned during the transition to communism via dictatorship of the proletariat. They themselves refer to such a system as "socialism", which is viewed as the transition period to communism. And like I said, pretty much every time the revolutionaries become the new dictators instead.

    Edit: Thus, this endgame is and can be considered the definition of "real-world communism", because true communism is never achieved, as the government simply becomes a state capitalist system.
    I agree with you on the Leninism and state capitalism bit, but "true" communism has been achieved at points in history, even in recent history. Take a look at anarchist Catalonia, for instance, or the EZLN.

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    Re: Join 'The Brotherhood'

    Quote Originally Posted by oops_ur_dead View Post
    I agree with you on the Leninism and state capitalism bit, but "true" communism has been achieved at points in history, even in recent history. Take a look at anarchist Catalonia, for instance, or the EZLN.
    From what I understand about Revolutionary Catalonia, the anarchist movement was complete fail because they quickly joined into a governmental body called the Generalitit of Catalonia, in order to avoid being isolated during the Spanish Civil War.

    As such, while the people might have controlled their own work, they were far from classless(again, this goes back to state capitalism), and despite being really perplexing, was also not stateless as well.

    And then they lost the war.

 

 

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