Mason Leader not included in Random Roles?

[EliteMarine]

I was just going through the MafiaWiki and came across this.

Masons by themselves - they will always spawn as a pair, or in greater numbers.
Coroners when there is no Janitor in the game and/or the mode is not Clue variant.
Mason Leader will not spawn from random roles (not including Mafia Variant).
Note: Spies and some other roles such as Sheriffs are exempt from this rule and still spawn even if there are no Mafia-aligned roles or Masons in the game - this, however, is incredibly rare.

So what I have highlighted in Green: am I to understand that Mason Leaders cannot spawn from random roles INCLUDING random any? If this is true then that sucks.

I have prided on myself that my save makes ALL roles in the game a possibility. However, if I am reading this correctly, then Mason Leaders MUST be a defined role in order to play as a Mason Leader.

[Burnteskimo IIl.]

mason/cult are boring anyways,

[Shaded]

mason/cult are boring anyways,

I disagree, very much in fact.

As for the Ml thing, I dunno honestly. I want to say I've seen ML spawn randomly, but i'm not 100% sure.

[Unknown User]

I disagree, very much in fact.

As for the Ml thing, I dunno honestly. I want to say I've seen ML spawn randomly, but i'm not 100% sure.

On time in a game, there were 3 masons from random towns. The 3 of us survived until there were 6 people left, including 2 mafia.
Was pretty easy to determine who was mafia lol

[EliteMarine]

I disagree, very much in fact.

As for the Ml thing, I dunno honestly. I want to say I've seen ML spawn randomly, but i'm not 100% sure.

I am with you there. This is my save:

Godfather
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Sheriff
Doctor
Mayor
jailor
Investigator
Citizen
Random Town
Random Town
Random Neutral
Random Neutral
Random Any*

*Random Any Excludes Mafia

I wanna say it spawned in my save before...but I am not 100% either. Guess I will be keeping a close eye out on this.

[Burnteskimo IIl.]

u actually get people to play ur save with a confirmed citizen?

[McKinley]

Check the settings of Mason Leader. You can enable it if he spawns or not from a random role.

[EliteMarine]

u actually get people to play ur save with a confirmed citizen?

Yeah. Very few complaints. I like having a citizen.
I like being a citizen.

[EliteMarine]

Check the settings of Mason Leader. You can enable it if he spawns or not from a random role.

I'll do that. That sounds familiar...

[Xen]

What a shit save.

Someday, I'll post my 3 templates. Best saves on bnet. Everyone always wanted to repick to me whenever I wasn't host.

[McKinley]

Xen, try that in a game right now. Tell me the results, bro.

[EliteMarine]

What a shit save.

Someday, I'll post my 3 templates. Best saves on bnet. Everyone always wanted to repick to me whenever I wasn't host.

Might not be the sexiest save (people who like to have sk arson cult saves withs jesters and witches).
But it is balanced and fun.




Also, for Mason Leader there is an option to exclude from random. Which I have unchecked. So I'll see if one ever spawns.

[McKinley]

If no random spawn is turned off, then yes it will spawn in randoms. Mason Leader and Spy are both set to never spawn in a random role unless enabled to do so in their private settings that you can monitor and alter in the load-up screen when Host is selecting options.

[Rive]

What a shit save.

Someday, I'll post my 3 templates. Best saves on bnet. Everyone always wanted to repick to me whenever I wasn't host.

Then please share your saves!! Im interested to know

[EliteMarine]

Confirmed. I had an Mason Leader appear in a random role. ALL IS WELL AGAIN!

[Burnteskimo IIl.]

What a shit save.

Someday, I'll post my 3 templates. Best saves on bnet. Everyone always wanted to repick to me whenever I wasn't host.

I can attest to this. Xen has his save setup so that everyone is included. No useless roles like survivor

[J]

Pretty sure ML can spawn in Adv. Town/Random Town role if the settings are enabled.

[SayGen]

Easy to get a game to start with a citi.
Anyone who rage quits get reported and problem solved.

Anytime I spawn as a citi i stay cause its EASY points for a citi win.

[EliteMarine]

Easy to get a game to start with a citi.
Anyone who rage quits get reported and problem solved.

Anytime I spawn as a citi i stay cause its EASY points for a citi win.

Same here. Just play the game. There is no true difference between Mayor and citizen other than mayor votes counts for more...can't do jack else.

[Duzero]

Atleast citizens wins tie with mafia, if you're lucky you can get ignored and end up in a 1v1v1 with sk and mafia

[EliteMarine]

Atleast citizens wins tie with mafia, if you're lucky you can get ignored and end up in a 1v1v1 with sk and mafia

Ditto. Potiential Hammer and Sickle achievement.

Now I think a citizen must be defined for Mason Leader to show or else the Mason Leader will be powerless and never spawn methinks.

[Bruno]

Ditto. Potiential Hammer and Sickle achievement.

Now I think a citizen must be defined for Mason Leader to show or else the Mason Leader will be powerless and never spawn methinks.

You rang?

[EliteMarine]

Lulz!

Not intentionally...

But Hullo!