M-FM X Gamethread

[Crimson]

First of all, editing posts is grounds for a modkill in most FMs. Second of all, perhaps you didn't notice Brendan claim vigilante? CmG could deduce that he was mafia from that statement.

It doesn't come to mind that Brendan was part of the bussing?

Brendan played really bad and was obvious Mafia. I mean WAY obvious and too obvious, I think.

[Kovath]

It doesn't come to mind that Brendan was part of the bussing?

Brendan played really bad and was obvious Mafia. I mean WAY obvious and too obvious, I think.

He was also a newbie. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. There was no point to bus a mafia at that stage. As I have said before, the vote on him was like 2 before CmG made his claim. Again, you are trying to just save your life without offering any significant information.

You didn't answer my question.

WHAT. ACTION. DID. YOU. PERFORM. LAST. NIGHT.

[Crimson]

I fucking told Sumi us coming out of the town was a bad idea. She told me to revealed if she died, so I did. This is just horrible.

[SirBlayzalot]

Still thinkin Kovath and Ubernox are mafia...

[Crimson]

He was also a newbie. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. There was no point to bus a mafia at that stage. As I have said before, the vote on him was like 2 before CmG made his claim. Again, you are trying to just save your life without offering any significant information.

You didn't answer my question.

WHAT. ACTION. DID. YOU. PERFORM. LAST. NIGHT.

I am going to Meta game this shit, get ready.


Kromos is apart of the Mafia team. He has a history of bussing his mafia team early game.

Kromos might've brought the idea to bus up with the mafia team. Why not bus the least experience player? And Mafioso.

They had the tool to bus.

The Janitor.

I performed no action last night.

[Kovath]

I am going to Meta game this shit, get ready.


Kromos is apart of the Mafia team. He has a history of bussing his mafia team early game.

Kromos might've brought the idea to bus up with the mafia team. Why not bus the least experience player? And Mafioso.

They had the tool to bus.

The Janitor.

I performed no action last night.

Are you trying to bullshit me? You just went afk for some reason last night? Didn't even try to predict something?

Please. Save your crap for someone else. You are going to die.

[Crimson]

Are you trying to bullshit me? You just went afk for some reason last night? Didn't even try to predict something?

Please. Save your crap for someone else. You are going to die.

Not one time did I say I went AFK.

[Kovath]

Not one time did I say I went AFK.

Since you seem to want to make this hard on yourself, let me ask this one more time:

Did you, or did you not, predict anything last night?

[Kovath]

Alright, Crimson appears to have left and is uncooperative in communicating his night actions to us.

Ubernox claimed citizen as expected, we are now waiting on Shaded and Borkbot.

All of the cats are out of the bag. Hopefully the detectives will share ALL of their results.

[Deathfire123]

10 bucks says Kovath is a mafia member since hes not claiming Detective

[Kovath]

10 bucks says Kovath is a mafia member since hes not claiming Detective

It should be very obvious who I am by now.

[Crimson]

Alright, Crimson appears to have left and is uncooperative in communicating his night actions to us.

Ubernox claimed citizen as expected, we are now waiting on Shaded and Borkbot.

All of the cats are out of the bag. Hopefully the detectives will share ALL of their results.

I did not predict anything

[Kovath]

I tell u what i followed Crimson last night and he visited me, also i got attacked. Thank you very much you are anti town and you are going to die!

What do you say to this, Crimson?

[Bahkieh]

-vote Crimson

[Crimson]

What do you say to this, Crimson?

That's a lie.

He isn't detective. I'm starting to think you're his mafia buddy because CmG isn't even confirmed and you believe him to the max.

[Crimson]

What do you say to this, Crimson?

Sigh, you're obviously incapable of comprehending this.

[Crimson]

What do you say to this, Crimson?

Didn't see any point at all in lying to make him seem more believable. I told you what I did. I did nothing last night.

[Kovath]

I haven't seen a detective claim from anyone else. We have 3 detective claims and 3 detectives. If I was mafia I would never have bussed my mafioso on flimsy pressure and for no reason so early in the game. Ergo, I trust him (unless something else comes to light). I also want to see CmG's first result.

You just want CmG to be GF so that you can save your own hide, and so that you appear useful. We get it.

I don't understand why you wouldn't predict last night.

[Bahkieh]

All I have is evidence that helps CmG prove he is town (which I believe he is since that Detect claim) and Bruno didnt visit anyone last night.

[Bahkieh]

This would actually be a great time for a Detective claim. Was it you Kovath who was suspicious of me yesterday?

[Crimson]

I haven't seen a detective claim from anyone else. We have 3 detective claims and 3 detectives. If I was mafia I would never have bussed my mafioso on flimsy pressure and for no reason so early in the game. Ergo, I trust him (unless something else comes to light). I also want to see CmG's first result.

You just want CmG to be GF so that you can save your own hide, and so that you appear useful. We get it.

I don't understand why you wouldn't predict last night.

Okay man, fine.

I predicted CmG to be the Godfather, hence why I'm so strong on him being godfather. I know for a fact he isn't.


However, I did NOT in NO way attack him.

Please, town, have mercy. This is my first M-FM ever and I would appreciate a break. I feel like if I die, I'd let Sumi down because then she would also lose. I promise to not pull anything like this. I tried to convince CmG as GF so you guys wouldn't lynch me. I made a grave mistake.


Only thing I can ask is for forgiveness. I don't understand why you guys have to kill me... CmG is detective, I will even confirm this for you guys. Please, have some heart and let me live. What if you were in my shoes? Would you want to die, knowing you would never purposefully cause any harm to the town?

I said what I said because I'm being lynched for no reason. I panicked and I regretted as soon as I did. Please, guys, let me LIVE! I will help you guys find the mafia. I'm confirming CmG to be detective, so that solves that.

Please, please, please let me live. I will not kill any town, I promise. Just don't kill me, please!

I want to win this. There is no need to kill the Truth Seeker... I am not going to kill any of you. Please, just don't kill me. The town can benefit from my ability. I promise to predict every night as someone on the mafia team.

If you want, have a detective follow me every night. Just let me live.

[Crimson]

Sumi and I made a decision on NOT to harm the town on the first night. So, please, just return the favor.

[Crimson]

I could also be used as a vest. Mafia will have to kill me sooner or later.

[Bahkieh]

well if he avoids predicting the detectives movements The only town he can threaten is the doctor

[Kovath]

Perhaps we will allow you to live. It would have significantly helped your case if you did not lie to us and attempt to cast CmG as the GF when he is a detective.

However, if we do, if you kill ANY member of the town, you will die through lynch or vig shot. I guarantee this.

@Bahkieh: Yes, I was suspicious of you yesterday. You were acting suspicious.

Again, we are just waiting on Shaded and Borkbot to claim.

Detectives need to line up their follows tonight at some point in the coming days, your targets will be Shaded, Borkbot, Ubernox.

[SirBlayzalot]

kk is no one getting that Korvath and Ubernox are obvious mafia... for one Ubernox tries to protect Korvath for NO REASON when CmG is the only one to claim... and Korvath is so sure who the mafia isn't, how can you not see why?

[SirBlayzalot]

also, really, there is 2 mafia 8 town... only mafia would want to keep the neutral alive and let him explain why he's good for town to stick around... I don't know why others don't see it... Borkbot is worrying me... hes usually gung ho for scum hunting...

[Kovath]

kk is no one getting that Korvath and Ubernox are obvious mafia... for one Ubernox tries to protect Korvath for NO REASON when CmG is the only one to claim... and Korvath is so sure who the mafia isn't, how can you not see why?

Are you stupid? 3 detectives have claimed. 2 vigilantes have claimed. I am a town power role. Look at the fucking roles list and tell me what role I am.

For god's sake man, think for once.

[Kovath]

also, really, there is 2 mafia 8 town... only mafia would want to keep the neutral alive and let him explain why he's good for town to stick around... I don't know why others don't see it... Borkbot is worrying me... hes usually gung ho for scum hunting...

Sympathy, nothing else.

If he turns on us we kill him no problem. We have a huge advantage at this point. We've narrowed the mafia down to 3 people choices (if the claimers are telling the truth)

[SirBlayzalot]

I think imma shoot Ubernox tonight... I don't like the cut of his jib

[Kovath]

In fact, Crimson has some utility if he predicts one of the 3 choices to visit me

He has a 33% chance of killing the godfather (I think they pierce immunity? correct if wrong?)

[Deathfire123]

-vote Crimson


​lets roast this sucker

[Crimson]

In fact, Crimson has some utility if he predicts one of the 3 choices to visit me

He has a 33% chance of killing the godfather (I think they pierce immunity? correct if wrong?)

Yes, I can pierce through immunity.

[Bahkieh]

I say we should think about who else we would think about lynching. We have plenty of time before day is over
-unvote Crimson

[Kovath]

I say we should think about who else we would think about lynching. We have plenty of time before day is over
-unvote Crimson

Again, as I have said before, the only candidates for lynching are Crimson, Shaded, Borkbot, Ubernox

[Bahkieh]

Yeah I know.

[BorkBot]

Kovath is full of craaaap.

vigilantes and 3 detectives have claimed. Those who have not claimed yet:
Ubernox
Shaded
Bruno (citizen apparently)
Borkbot

Your mafia is among Ubernox, Shaded, Borkbot.

Why does the mafia have to be among non-claimers? Ever heard of FALSE claimers? It's a bullshit lead to just believe everyone's claims.

Bankieh is not a confirmed detective because he hasn't said anything new.

SirBlayzalot could also be lying about being vigilante. Why would the mafia shoot a truth seeker? Unless maybe they thought Sumikoko was WIFOMing, and that she was something else. Or the other truth seeker keelhauled her, but I don't think that's the case because the truth seekers have a totally garbage win condition and mafia/vigilantes are a lot more scary for them.

Ubersocks might be bussing idk. I still think he's a scumspect. Same with Kromos. Kovath's town leaderyness while overlooking the possibility of LIES IN ROLECLAIMS is fishy. As if he wants unconfirmed players to be established as "confirmed."

Crimson: "Uhm ya I can confirm CmG as detective"

Does that prove him to be truth seeker? Nope. What about night immune godfather who wants to get vigi shot at night and buy another day / a possible mislynch? Oh yeah, that sounds moar likely.

vote Crimson

[Kovath]

You wanna know why I trust those role claimers? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONFLICTING ROLE CLAIMS.

Your unwillingness to vote any of those roleclaimers proves that you are not a detective or vigilante. If you are claiming citizen, then it all boils down again to the 4 people, you, Shaded, Bruno, Ubernox. Ubernox has claimed citizen already. Bruno was apparently seen doing nothing (and I trust Bahkieh's word until someone else claims detective, and he provided some results although like I said I want see all of the detective results) and I believe he is a citizen if that is true. Until I see a counter claim I trust the claimers.

Ok. I have already pretty much roleclaimed. I will die tonight. We need to clean up the loose ends.

[BorkBot]

Mass roleclaim including vigis/doctor isn't necessary. Though I would expect a detective to counter claim (if he had any usable information).

Crimson is mobster. Keel heem!

[Kovath]

Crimson, if he was GF, made a huge gambit by claiming Truth Seeker. There was no point to claim without even a semblance of pressure. If he gets vigi shot at night and survives its instant gg for him.

Your arguments make no sense. You just got bumped up quite a few points on my scum radar.

[Kovath]

Mass roleclaim including vigis/doctor isn't necessary. Though I would expect a detective to counter claim (if he had any usable information).

Crimson is mobster. Keel heem!

Of course it isn't necessary, but it's the easiest way to win. Either mafia tries to counter claim one of the PRs and gets destroyed when they try to defend their claim, (false claiming detective? puhleez), or they claim citizen, get the town PR claimers confirmed, and put themselves into a group of 4 cit claims who will be tracked, interrogated, and shot by the vigi. If we are not dumb then town win is guaranteed.

[BorkBot]

Bah screw it. I'm the second tooth seeker and I've been claiming it since day 1. I killed Dr Phil tonight because I figured CmG would be a likely target for quite a bunch of roles.

If we lynch Crimson, there's only one mafia left and it'd be reaaaaally kind of you if you'd help me win too (of course I'm just going to get shot, but really I can't win without the town's help anyway).

Anyway, Crimson is a lying scumbag.

[BorkBot]

Night 1 I targeted Sumi, with myself as target target.

Night 2 I targeted SirBlayzalot, with myself as target target (yeah I was basically aiming at people whom I thought might be trying to kill me lol)

[BorkBot]

Y I has no vest? Y I can no see actual targets of people?

I can counterclaim detective nor vigi cause the real vigi would shoot me. Derp.

[Kovath]

WADDAFUK IS GOING ON

I don't understand this shit

Why would Crimson claim Truth Seeker if he wasn't

Wtf

What did you discuss with Sumi?

[Kovath]

In light of this new development I suggest lynching Crimson and shooting Borkbot if he is Truth Seeker

[BorkBot]

Not a lot. We were basically lamenting about how bad our chances were.. we asked a couple of questions about how tooth seekers worked on night 1 and we were admiring the pretty scenery of our board

[BorkBot]

I'm not sure if it's against the rules to quote night chats. Does anyone know?

[Kovath]

I'm not sure if it's against the rules to quote night chats. Does anyone know?

I'm pretty sure that you shouldn't.

I like how you predicted (or pretended to predict) Sumi would kill you ^^

What are your thoughts on the motivation behind Crimson's Truth Seeker claim?

[BorkBot]

Well, CmG saw him visiting himself. The gunsmith died, so he couldn't claim that. I suppose he was afraid to claim doctor because he'd likely be counter claimed so he decided to claim "some killing role."

A truth seeker would know that CmG was a PR, so he could've been a target. > HOWEVER, THE DOCTOR CAN'T HEAL TRUTH SEEKER KILLS <

So he's confirmed mafia killer/doctor no matter how you look at it. This is in the FAQ. I missed it as well at first, but Sumi attended me to it.