M-FM IX Gamethread

[Unknown User]

Arsonist gives no douse feedback. You'll know you were doused when you get fried.

Oh god damnit

[Unknown User]

DING DING DING!

I'm actually just a citizen and I caught you in my trap. You're not an investigator.

LOL HIGH FIVE
I think I already have him voted

[Luna]

the way I see it, Luna is DD more then likely because she claimed bd and no one has claimed it since, then the soul thief came outah no where... clementine is mason, so at any point she can bust out her mason minions to back her up(or cult but I unno if its even in play)...

At this point, we have absolutely no idea what clementine is. No one is backing up her Mason claim, which wasn't even an actual claim (and as Bork agreed, could easily have been designed to be something easy to slip away and back down from).

Though you have been confusing me with your voting patterns. If you and clem weren't slyly backing each other up I wouldn't know what to make of your claim.

[Luna]

Oh wait I just saw Bork's message.

[Shaded]

DING DING DING!

I'm actually just a citizen and I caught you in my trap. You're not an investigator.

Wassah?

[BorkBot]

SirBlayzalot posted a false investigation result on me under pressure. I think that should be enough to lynch him.

[Luna]

I think we're lazy and we need a tally right about now.

Give me a bit o' time to count up the votes.

[SirBlayzalot]

ahhhh are my n1 findings wrong?


and btw if I wasn't how would I know lunas real invest pairings?

[Shaded]

ahhhh are my n1 findings wrong?


and btw if I wasn't how would I know lunas real invest pairings?

If you were consig, or if you were another mafia role being fed info from a consig.

[Luna]

Oh jeez, if Bork is a Citizen claimer and I'm a protective role... *FM12 flashbacks*

[Unknown User]

I really think we should lynch SirBlayzalot.

Situation A:
If he is mafia, then we know why him and clem were backing eachother up.
Clem told the witch day 1 to make people target vet, now he backs up a lying invest. HMMM

Situation B:
He is invest, and Bork is a liar.

Situation C:
They're both Cits.

[SirBlayzalot]

I don't understand... if he was exe why would he want to lynch me?... and if he's consig he's just going to get lynched tomorrow... and if hes sheriff or invest he wouldn't want to kill me... I don't understand this logic :-/

[BorkBot]

You are some mafia role and there is a consigliere on your team (or you are a consigliere yourself) and you were convinced that I had to be in that pairing, but I'm not. It doesn't always help to keep your secret info to yourself and to gamble that people's role claims are truthful.

Finally my citizen claiming everything under the sun pays off, lol.

[SirBlayzalot]

If you were consig, or if you were another mafia role being fed info from a consig.

even still... my findings would be correct... theres no role that can switch town roles is there?

[Unknown User]

Maybe Bork IS the exec.
god damn this is very WIFOM

[Shaded]

Bork, if he were really Consig, why would he lie about a result on you, rather than giving a real result he gathered n1?

[BorkBot]

even still... my findings would be correct... theres no role that can switch town roles is there?

Nope, only the mafia can do that. Hey wait a second.. why are you asking "there is no role that can switch town roles?"

You are not town. GAME OVER.

[Shaded]

even still... my findings would be correct... theres no role that can switch town roles is there?

Only the Bus Driver. And we have no reason to believe the Bus Driver switched Bork N1.

[SirBlayzalot]

well either mcpawnage screwed up... or your lying for some unknown reason... cause I'm 100% sure if you were exe your target was blazer by the way you were talkin... so none of this makes sense...

Chewbacca is a wookie

but he lives on endor...

that just doesn't make sense

[clementine]

Too many things about Luna's many role claims do not make sense to me if she is Doctor, and here is why:

Evidence:
1. Goremancer claims detective and sees Luna visiting Rocshi
2. SirBlayzalot claims investigator and sees Luna as doctor/sk/drugdealer

-Luna (on Day 1) claims veteran. This is an understandable claim for a doctor. Nothing fishy here.
-Luna exposes herself as not veteran to say there may be a witch. Still nothing very fishy here.
-Day 3 Luna is caught by Goremancer the detective visiting Rocshi. People seem to be forgetting this part of Luna's story. Why does Luna heal Rocshi on N2 if she is doctor and Rocshi is putting out severely strong jester vibes? I assume Luna is smarter than that to want to heal a possible Jester. I also almost believe Rocshi is godfather WIFOM'ing Jester, regardless of whether Luna is town or scum. If that possibility didn't occur to Luna I find that extremely odd. Her Rocshi visitation that she DID NOT CONTEST originally when she claimed invest is just too weird a move for Luna the doctor. I would like this explained.
-Luna is caught by SirBlayzalot who is confirmed as invest/consig or on a team with a consig since Luna agrees she fits the doc/sk/dd pairing and obviously claims doc.
-Therefore Luna is doc or dd who visited Rocshi last night (sk would have killed Rocshi and Escaho claimed attacked instead of Rocshi).

The big takeaway question I want to pose is does it make more sense for Luna the doctor or Luna the dd to visit Rocshi the probable Jester last night? If Luna is DD, she might want Rocshi to think his soul is stolen as a jester, so mafia knows who NOT to vote. If Luna is Doctor, why Rocshi? I can think of so many better targets than Rocshi. Town, don't forget about this major flaw in Luna's story. Don't be confused by BorkBot and Luna trying to mislead you. I am convinced they are on the same team (BorkBot consig and Luna dd) because Luna is wiggling out of the spotlight assisted by BorkBot for some strange reason if he really is exec.

Because of these reasons
-vote Luna

I see no reason why we can't lynch Luna now and then have a whole day left to discuss the implications of Luna's lynch. (if she flips DD in the most likely situation or if she flips doctor which is the less likely one because of visiting Rocshi)

[Shaded]

Maybe Bork IS the exec.
god damn this is very WIFOM

You're telling me. yikes.

[BorkBot]

Bork, if he were really Consig, why would he lie about a result on you, rather than giving a real result he gathered n1?

Because he investigated Luna night 1.

[BorkBot]

Oh look, Clementine wants to get the day over with quickly so we can't switch to SirBlayzalot.

[Luna]

My current scum-list:

SirBlayzalot (Okay so this is mostly cemented by what Bork is saying, but I trust him)
clementine (My suspicions are now heightened if SirBlayz flips mafia)
Brendan (Inaccurate, spreading disinformation, slip-ups?)
Ubernox (Tunnel vision on me, won't really comment much on SirBlayz/clem/Brendan)

Okay so they aren't the only people I'm suspicious of, but I think that's the potential mafia team.

[SirBlayzalot]

I invested her n2... she claimed vet n1 I'm not stupid lol... I invested you n1 cause you were being sketchy...

[Shaded]

Because he investigated Luna night 1.

Then what about his N2 results?

[Luna]

[/COLOR][/B] I assume Luna is smarter than that to want to heal a possible Jester. I also almost believe Rocshi is godfather WIFOM'ing Jester, regardless of whether Luna is town or scum. If that possibility didn't occur to Luna I find that extremely odd. Her Rocshi visitation that she DID NOT CONTEST originally when she claimed invest is just too weird a move for Luna the doctor.

I was Ser Jorah in FM12. There weren't any claims or anyone looking particularly helpful or reliable. I figured Rocshi may have been witched, so hey, he may be the Bus Driver (or the Mafia thought he was and would attack him). This is basically my logic when it comes to protecting people, even though the same logic in FM12 led to me giving armour to two godfathers and the cult leader.

[BorkBot]

I don't understand... if he was exe why would he want to lynch me?...

Executioner:
Spoiler : Rolecard :


Must successfully lynch their target to win
The target cannot be an evil role

Yeah that's right, if I were an executioner, why would I be willing to lynch you? Good question. Very good question indeed....

Mafia.

[SirBlayzalot]

look at your votes and how many times you've said blazer... I knew as soon as I invested you that he was your target.... even when no one else talks about him lol... surprised no one else caught that :P

[Gingerape]

As for the witch thing with Ginger... yeah it was stupid. But if Ginger was mafia, she could have just done that in night chat since witch is a mafia role rather than a neutral in this game.

Also, no one noticed day 1 when Gingerape blatantly tells the witch to control people onto the vet...?
why would town even give that idea to the witch? mafia IMO.

Wah~ I don't remember telling the witch to target the vet on day 1 ._.

[Mopin]

BorkBot mind answering whether you'll follow though with the plan I proposed earlier? (Unless I missed it)

All you need to do is remember yourself as the vigilante tonight and shoot Rocshi at the same time, which will kill scum and prove yourself you town.

[Unknown User]

Guys, I trust SirBlayzalot...

This is my logic...

Clementine is bussed n1.
Luna is bussed n1 aswell, saying there is probably a witch.
Then, day 2, there is no busses. So that means that Ajkei is the BD, or there wasn't a BD.
Luna claims invest, Blayz counters it, saying she's Doc/DD.
So, if there isn't a BD, then Clementine was drugged to believe so. This means that Luna could have lied to make town think there is a BD, when in reality, she is the DD.

Blayz claimed Bork to be invest/sheriff/exec/consig, and now Bork claims he's cit.



To sum it up, I believe that BorkBot is Executioner, and Luna is Drug Dealer

-unvote SirBlayzalot
-vote Luna

this is how i'm staying until the end of day 3.

[Unknown User]

Wah~ I don't remember telling the witch to target the vet on day 1 ._.

I know!!
I apologized for that already.
It was Clementine, not you!!!!!

forgive me?

[Shaded]

Clementine, have you considered that Luna didn't read Rocshi as jester-y? I wouldn't even say he was putting out "severely strong jester vibes" yesterday, and I didn't buy his claim from the very get go. I find it plausible that if she were a real doctor, she might want to protect Rocshi on the chance that he really was the BD after having claimed witch.

I'm still skeptical of Luna, but calling it a "major flaw in her story" that she tried to heal a guy that seemed like a pretty good BD candidate is just exaggerating.

[Mopin]

I'm still a little confused about what is going on so I'm going to unvote for now in fear of Luna getting lynched early. Someone does really need to make a tally with all this voting and unvoting going on.

-Unvote Luna

[BorkBot]

Good grief, Sir Blayzalot is making massive slip ups and nobody wants to act on them. This town is doomed.

-afk

BorkBot mind answering whether you'll follow though with the plan I proposed earlier? (Unless I missed it)

All you need to do is remember yourself as the vigilante tonight and shoot Rocshi at the same time, which will kill scum and prove yourself you town.

I posted that plan before you did... and I'm not an amnesiac so I can't do that.

[Gingerape]

I know!!
I apologized for that already.
It was Clementine, not you!!!!!

forgive me?

oh ok ^_^ forgiven.
im still catching up on the thread so i havent read it all yet. and now i need to go for a few hours x.x

[BorkBot]

Clementine is bussed n1.
Luna is bussed n1 aswell, saying there is probably a witch.
Then, day 2, there is no busses. So that means that Ajkei is the BD, or there wasn't a BD.
Luna claims invest, Blayz counters it, saying she's Doc/DD.
So, if there isn't a BD, then Clementine was drugged to believe so. This means that Luna could have lied to make town think there is a BD, when in reality, she is the DD.

Switch Luna and Clementine in this story and it'll be correct.

[Mopin]

Good grief, Sir Blayzalot is making massive slip ups and nobody wants to act on them. This town is doomed.

-afk


I posted that plan before you did... and I'm not an amnesiac so I can't do that.

Oh god sorry for some reason I completely forgot about the entire citizen claiming thing even though I just read it.

I guess I thought it was someone else for some reason...

[Shaded]

I really hope I don't regret this. Bork, Luna if you guys are messing with me... then good job. Lol.

-unvote Brendan

-vote SirBlayzalot

Good night everyone.

[SirBlayzalot]

hes not citizen he just posted his role... which I called... and I'm 99% sure his target is blazer

[Luna]

For a substantial part of this day, we've had two Investigator claims.

Bork is now claiming Citizen. My suspicions are still on SirBlayz and I still think he should be lynched.

But where is the Investigator counter-claim?

Because my logic was based on Borkbot being an Investigator. Either Borkbot is sure SirBlayz is mafia and needs to deceive the Town to push the lynch and deceive the Mafia into thinking he's not a worthy night target, or there is an Investigator out there who didn't feel the need to say anything as two other Investigator claimers controlled the day chat.

Future days could be just as entertaining as this if we're going to have more Investigator claims ^^

[SirBlayzalot]

honestly wheres the logic here... I called out doc/dd then I call out borkbot for his REAL role and he shows it... and now I'm not investigator.... herp? ... it's like playing with pubs :-/

[BorkBot]

hes not citizen he just posted his role... which I called... and I'm 99% sure his target is blazer

Look at this thread:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ame-FAQ-Thread

It's quite useful for finding rolecards of other roles.

[Luna]

Okay I'm actually going to work up a tally now, I just got caught up in the excitement lol!

Seriously, like 9 people posted while I was typing up that small paragraph. I haven't even seen this in a FM since FM7/FM6.

[BorkBot]

Also, I didn't copy the whole thing. Just the relevant bits.

[Goremancer]

What the fuck just happened? 0.0

[Unknown User]

honestly wheres the logic here... I called out doc/dd then I call out borkbot for his REAL role and he shows it... and now I'm not investigator.... herp? ... it's like playing with pubs :-/

I agree with you bro.

He's trying to say he's not exec, because exec only targets town?
that doesn't help his case at all.

What kind of doctor calls a super fishy role day 1, (says it's to prevent from getting killed, but could prevent from being investigated too..) then claims invest (which will get themselves killed), when in reality they come up as dr/dd..
I really think she is Drug Dealer.
No doctor acts this way.

[Goremancer]

Town please explain to me why you would not vote Luna.
She claimed invest then claimed doctor. Borkbot defends that action saying we shouldn't lynch all liars. Which is true. But how is claiming invest then doc helpful to town in ANY way? Btw I think BorkBot's exec claim is complete bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if he was like a jester or mafia defending the soulthief Luna.
TOWN DO NOT BE LED ASTRAY BY SCUM!
Lynch the obvious scum! And McJesus said the day WILL NOT end early if we hammer Luna. Plus if we just keep them alive, this wifom clusterfuck will confuse the hell out of us. I say kill her!

REVOLUTION

[Luna]

Admiral Tally, of the Seventeenth Tally Fleet:

Luna (6) – Ubernox, Brendan, Goremancer, Sinclair, clementine, Cryptonic
SirBlayzalot (3) – Borkbot, Luna, Shaded
Cryptonic (1) – Duzero