M-FM IX Gamethread

[Escaho]

When I get a feeling someone is scum I tend to hunt them down, I did the same to Cryptonic until evidence told me otherwise.

Very well. Then I will do some hunting of my own.

Please, answer me this: What is your opinion of Ubernox, Shaded, ajkei, and Sinclair?

[Duzero]

If I was sheriff and was lynched before posting results I would be a bit mad as well, so I would either go afk for the rest of the day or give my correct results. Giving false results is gamethrowing IMO and I don't think he would do that. Stop discrediting our only confirmed investigative role.

Don't have very much information on them.
I think ajkei is the doctor(unless it was mopin, but that would be bad luck).
Ubernox, Sinclair and Shaded are hard to place as you can see in my role list. If I would guess it would be Ubernox as mafioso, Shaded as GF and Sinclair as town PR.

[Escaho]

If I was sheriff and was lynched before posting results I would be a bit mad as well, so I would either go afk for the rest of the day or give my correct results. Giving false results is gamethrowing IMO and I don't think he would do that. Stop discrediting our only confirmed investigative role.

Tell me then: why would I not just claim Doctor if I was the Serial Killer? If I knew BorkBot's results on me were correct why would I false claim?

The answer: I wouldn't. If I was the Serial Killer, I would have claimed Doctor, like I said. I am discrediting your only "confirmed" Investigator role because a) he is not telling you the truth, b) he is attempting to throw me under the bus while lying and c) he has every reason to lie about his final investigation result. We lynched him early before he could even give us the results. If you think it is game-throwing, ask McPwnage that. I guarantee you he will not see it as you do.

The thing here is that you are trying to tie this game up into a neat little bow. Me being Serial Killer is an easy fit. What if BorkBot's results had said, "By the way, Shaded's results came up Doctor/Serial Killer/Drug Dealer."? You'd be having the same conversation with him as you are with me now.

You keep on referencing that "I am not that stupid" argument. Well, Duzero, I am not stupid enough to call a confirmed Investigator's results a lie unless I know they are a lie. And I will take that to the grave with me if I have to. You would be stupid to lynch me because we will all lose. The Serial Killer will jump on my lynch train in a heartbeat, along with the mafia, so I'm waiting to see who does it first.

Ubernox, Sinclair and Shaded are hard to place as you can see in my role list. If I would guess it would be Ubernox as mafioso, Shaded as GF and Sinclair as town PR.

Tell me, what PR do you think Sinclair is? He's posted very little. Barely made a peep. And hasn't been modkilled. Please explain your theory.

[Duzero]

I have a backup theory if it turns out you are not serial killer when you get lynched today. But I will keep it a secret for the time being and see if someone makes a mistake that reveals them.

[Escaho]

I have a backup theory if it turns out you are not serial killer when you get lynched today. But I will keep it a secret for the time being and see if someone makes a mistake that reveals them.

If I am lynched, the town loses. It doesn't matter what your theory is unless you are the Godfather.

You would be better off spending actual time trying to solve the mystery of who the real Serial Killer is. That is why I am waiting for others to post (and not just vote).

TO EVERYONE READING THIS THREAD:

-Give your suspicions on who you think the Serial Killer is (surprise, surprise if it's me. Most of you will just be jumping on the easiest train. And one of you will be the Serial Killer.)

-Give all your night actions so far if you claim anything other than Citizen. We must weigh opposing claims and viewpoints before making a lynch.

[Duzero]

Would giving false results as investigator/sheriff, and not correcting them in the last will, be considered gamethrowing?

[Ubernox]

Scum need to lynch just o e more town and they've won. I suggest we do this VERY carefully.

I'd just like to point out that BorkBot was right about Goremancer. Goremancer is a member of the cult, and he was responsible for the lynch against Bork the inves.

1. We know there is no framer.

2. BorkBot Colum not have turned up Suspicious to a normal sheriff.

3. Ginger was culted when she made her last will, and she incriminated BorkBot to damage the town.

4. Goremancer, also culted, backed up this claim.


@Duzero go look at the latest sheriff/mafioso sfm in the archives. Take note of the lists the people are there. They always prepared for every possibility, even impossible ones. Whether or not Escaho is scum, he is not "falling apart".

[Duzero]

Scum need to lynch just o e more town and they've won. I suggest we do this VERY carefully.

I'd just like to point out that BorkBot was right about Goremancer. Goremancer is a member of the cult, and he was responsible for the lynch against Bork the inves.

1. We know there is no framer.

2. BorkBot Colum not have turned up Suspicious to a normal sheriff.

3. Ginger was culted when she made her last will, and she incriminated BorkBot to damage the town.

4. Goremancer, also culted, backed up this claim.


@Duzero go look at the latest sheriff/mafioso sfm in the archives. Take note of the lists the people are there. They always prepared for every possibility, even impossible ones. Whether or not Escaho is scum, he is not "falling apart".

You want to do this "very carefully", then you should know everyone needs to claim so we can find conflicting claims.

By not claiming directly you are now pinned as mafioso on my list.

[Escaho]

You want to do this "very carefully", then you should know everyone needs to claim so we can find conflicting claims.

I'm sorry, but about an hour ago you wanted to outright lynch me and didn't want to give your "theory" about what the alternative to me being SK could be until after the Town had already lost. Funny how you join my "everyone should now claim" brouhaha after basically saying I'm a dead man.

Makes you look good, doesn't it?

By not claiming directly you are now pinned as mafioso on my list.

Yes, well, I'd take your word for it, but you're not exactly the best judge of character at the moment.

*Rolls eyes at "Escaho's a Serial Killer"*

If there's anything I've learned from FMXII, it's never trust a Godfather.

[Duzero]

I'm sorry, but about an hour ago you wanted to outright lynch me and didn't want to give your "theory" about what the alternative to me being SK could be until after the Town had already lost. Funny how you join my "everyone should now claim" brouhaha after basically saying I'm a dead man.

Makes you look good, doesn't it?



Yes, well, I'd take your word for it, but you're not exactly the best judge of character at the moment.

*Rolls eyes at "Escaho's a Serial Killer"*

If there's anything I've learned from FMXII, it's never trust a Godfather.

You are still asking me to trust you over a confirmed investigator, would you trust me if you were me and I were you? I don't think so.

Also the claiming was ajkei's idea.

[Escaho]

You are still asking me to trust you over a confirmed investigator, would you trust me if you were me and I were you? I don't think so.

I do not expect you to trust me. I merely don't want you to jump to conclusions. At least wait until McPwnage answers your question.

Also the claiming was ajkei's idea.

I told Goremancer yesterday we should wait one day before mass role-claiming because I knew we could end up in this situation (mislynch and lose).

[Duzero]

Mcpwnage can you post Borkbot's last will even if it's outdated?

[Ubernox]

I'm not sure, but Bork had JUST said that we didn't deserve to win; he MIGHT have given false results to spite us. That's my guess.

As for you, Duzero, you epitomise everything that the mafia would be trying to do now. You call me scummy for requesting caution in our voting, while trying to rush a lynch on Escaho.

I think I have it figured out now.

[Unknown User]

He wouldn't throw the game like that... He seems like a good guy.
When he said Escaho was doc/SK, he should be telling the truth.
I am citizen, I was rb n1 and n2 and the escort never died.

I believe that we need to lynch SK today to reduce the KPN, and then BG and DR should target each other and lunch blayz tomorrow.. Then we need to find the gf while dr and BG protect eachother

[Unknown User]

Sorry, I was rb n1 and n3****

[Duzero]

I'm not sure, but Bork had JUST said that we didn't deserve to win; he MIGHT have given false results to spite us. That's my guess.

As for you, Duzero, you epitomise everything that the mafia would be trying to do now. You call me scummy for requesting caution in our voting, while trying to rush a lynch on Escaho.

I think I have it figured out now.

You ignore the fact that I call you scummy for not claiming. I still don't see a claim .

[Duzero]

So far everyone has claimed in their first post except Ubernox. I wonder why huehuehue.

[Ubernox]

I wanna hear your scum list, Crypt. Also, you wouldn't believe the things Bork will do when spiteful.

@Duzero I'm the real doctor, but that probably just means that I'm the last cit trying to take a bullet for Ajkei. I'm the third cit, but that probably just means that I'm actually the doctor, trying to avoid death.

You SHOULD have been able to guess my role at this point, Duzzy.

[Unknown User]

I also would like every person to claim.

Everyone who claims citizen is a suspect, logically, cause choosing the wrong PR = death

I'll post my list at work in 1.5 hours, I have my notes there

[SirBlayzalot]

here's where everyone claims citizen...

[Unknown User]

here's where everyone claims citizen...

Well, you don't need to claim.
We all know you're maf

Also, If Sinclair is a member of the mafia, I hope you guys understand that he is the last Cultist. Clementine asked that Sinclair not be modkilled, because if he was, it would not count towards her leveling up.

The Serial Killer is not immune to kills yet, so he has no reason to do what the mafia says... lol With a bodyguard and a doctor left, we should be able to win this. Doctor stay on BG and BG target someone random, and we may have a chance.

I would also like to think that ajkei is a mafioso, although I cannot prove it. I hope gore comes on soon to give us info about last night.

I would like to see some more living people's lists on alive players so we can think about this logically.

[SirBlayzalot]

kk well.. I really have no hope in convincing you I'm a second investigator, but I could really use this win and for as long as you let me live I'll try and help town win... I could really use this win considering it's my first game... I can detect exact role, and I promise to use my findings everyday, and I hope you grow to trust me...

the way I see it, I am the extra town PR and whoever claims it over me is scum...

or Borkbot was actress, got lucky on a guess(like 30% chance), and we are actually down another mafia which would be sweet

my results from last night were for Sinclair
Your target is medically trained, they may be a Doctor/Serial Killer/Drug Dealer

now we got 3 claims of doctor, and one supposed doctor... so Imma guess bork was screwin with us... and either ajkei or uber are lying about being doctor... but Imma guess the SK is either Ajkei, Sinclair, or Ubernox(if he wasnt just screwing with me).

I'm gonna guess shaded is mafia, because he claimed the last town PR, and once you lynch me you'll see that it was me

I'm not sure on godfather cause its so friggin hard to tell, so many citizens... and I have no idea about the last mafia, everyone keeps switching roles, and pretending to be something their not... so friggin hard to narrow anything down... I don't even know who to investigate at night :-/ .. I just try and get the best results possible for the town

well thats my 2 cents, not worth much, but I don't really have the logic and intuition that you guys do to sort through all this stuff...

I am the only investigative role we have, and even if I was consig I'm giving my results in chat everyday... but we need to take the benefit of the doubt to start thinking about what the other mafia role could be.

[Unknown User]

I did some math

n1
1 death, no one claimed attacked.
Mafia killed, SK hit clementine (-auto vest)

n2
1 death, escaho claimed attacked + healed.
ajkei claims doctor, and so does Ubernox.
ajkei said he didn't heal escaho n2.
Ubernox never claimed.

Mafia knows who SK is, therefore Escaho is PROBABLY the SK..

Side note: BorkBot said that Escaho is Doctor/Serial Killer... Now, I think BorkBot has enough respect to NOT lie to us, and revealed his last investigation (could have been the doc), but Escaho denied it.




I think that it is a safe bet to lynch escaho today to lower KPN by 1

[Escaho]

Well, you don't need to claim.
We all know you're maf

Also, If Sinclair is a member of the mafia, I hope you guys understand that he is the last Cultist. Clementine asked that Sinclair not be modkilled, because if he was, it would not count towards her leveling up.

The Serial Killer is not immune to kills yet, so he has no reason to do what the mafia says... lol With a bodyguard and a doctor left, we should be able to win this. Doctor stay on BG and BG target someone random, and we may have a chance.

I would also like to think that ajkei is a mafioso, although I cannot prove it. I hope gore comes on soon to give us info about last night.

I would like to see some more living people's lists on alive players so we can think about this logically.

This is what I needed to see. Someone who is thinking logically.

You would like to believe BorkBot was telling the truth, but he was not. Consumed with rage at an early lynch, he chose to give false investigation results. And yes, I am annoyed with it because it's completely destroying our chances of winning.

If you check out Sinclair's latest forum posts, you will realize he has only posted a total of 9 times combined (including Days 1, 2, and 3). He did not post on Day 4. And yet he has not been modkilled?

To Cryptonic: A modkill does not necessarily mean the role is removed from the game, merely the player. They are replaced by someone else.

Since Rihfok was replaced, this means that Sinclair has a night action. The only way to not be modkilled is to submit a night action each night to show the host that you are still in the game. I do not believe he is Cult. I believe he is the Serial Killer. Why? Because anyone on a decent mafia team (I'm looking at you: Sirblazyalot, Duzero, and Shaded/Ubernox/ajkei) would ensure their team posts at least a little bit. Considering the mafia has three members remaining, they will be vigilant and trying to avoid a lynch on them at all costs. Their Consigliere is clearly left in the dust with all these PR role claims.

Sinclair has been avoiding suspicion for the entire game by not posting. What better way to win than to hide in the shadows? He didn't even have to vote yesterday since we lynched our own Investigator who has now framed me because he's upset (to anyone who really thinks I'm the SK, I would have claimed Doctor the moment BorkBot pointed out my role. That would ensure my survival for at least one more day because I could easily have WIFOMed Doctor. Perhaps I am doing it now to take a bullet for a Town PR at night?). Fact is: the Serial Killer lurks among one of you.

Therefore, I must leave a vote on:

-vote Sinclair

Hopefully this will at least pressure him to come online and post something useful.

[Unknown User]

This is what I needed to see. Someone who is thinking logically.

You would like to believe BorkBot was telling the truth, but he was not. Consumed with rage at an early lynch, he chose to give false investigation results. And yes, I am annoyed with it because it's completely destroying our chances of winning.

If you check out Sinclair's latest forum posts, you will realize he has only posted a total of 9 times combined (including Days 1, 2, and 3). He did not post on Day 4. And yet he has not been modkilled?

To Cryptonic: A modkill does not necessarily mean the role is removed from the game, merely the player. They are replaced by someone else.

Since Rihfok was replaced, this means that Sinclair has a night action. The only way to not be modkilled is to submit a night action each night to show the host that you are still in the game. I do not believe he is Cult. I believe he is the Serial Killer. Why? Because anyone on a decent mafia team (I'm looking at you: Sirblazyalot, Duzero, and Shaded/Ubernox/ajkei) would ensure their team posts at least a little bit. Considering the mafia has three members remaining, they will be vigilant and trying to avoid a lynch on them at all costs. Their Consigliere is clearly left in the dust with all these PR role claims.

Sinclair has been avoiding suspicion for the entire game by not posting. What better way to win than to hide in the shadows? He didn't even have to vote yesterday since we lynched our own Investigator who has now framed me because he's upset (to anyone who really thinks I'm the SK, I would have claimed Doctor the moment BorkBot pointed out my role. That would ensure my survival for at least one more day because I could easily have WIFOMed Doctor. Perhaps I am doing it now to take a bullet for a Town PR at night?). Fact is: the Serial Killer lurks among one of you.

Therefore, I must leave a vote on:

-vote Sinclair

Hopefully this will at least pressure him to come online and post something useful.

What's your role/

[Unknown User]

does SK kill roleblockers?
looked in the FAQ, didn't see it

[Unknown User]

We just can't forget about one key point:

ESCAHO CLAIMED TO BE ATTACKED AND HEALED NIGHT TWO, BUT NO DOCTOR CONFIRMS

[Unknown User]

If we don't lynch the SK tonight, the only chance of the SK winning is to kill a Mafia member.

I think Bork could have been trying to get Escaho killed by claiming he was the doctor...
However, we need all the people claiming doctors to let us know who they targeted.
Also, it's hard to believe that with 2 KPN, such few PRs left that the BG and Doctor didn't save anyone last 2 nights...

We need everybody to role call

[Unknown User]

Doctor: Ubernox, ajkei
PR 1: Goremancer (detective)
PR 2: Shaded (Bodyguard), SirBlayzalot (Investigator)
Citizen: Duzero, Cryptonic, Escaho

We need Sinclair to role call now.... He's the only one who hasn't

[Unknown User]

Message to the Serial Killer:

Unless you are Escaho, the Mafia does NOT know who you are.

n1-1death- clementine used auto-vest.
n2-1death- escaho claimed healed and attacked.
n3-3deaths
n4-2deaths

YOUR ONLY CHANCE OF WINNING IS TO KILL A MAFIA MEMBER TONIGHT AND LOWER THEIR NUMBERS. I suggest SirBlayzalot, because you know he is not night immune, and is guarenteed to lower the Mafia power by one.

If you kill SirBlayz, assuming Mopin was Citizen and that Mafia kills a townie, that will leave:
Town: 4
Mafia: 2
Serial Killer: 1

Then, only 4 votes will be needed.

If you kill a townie, and so does mafia:
Town: 3
Mafia: 3
SK: 1

Then, the mafia only need 1 vote on their train to lynch more town, or they could lynch you.

So please, try to kill a mafia member tonight.

[Unknown User]

If Serial Killer kills town, it's most likely a Mafia win.

If Serial Killer kills a mafia member, then it's still anyone's game.

[Unknown User]

Tonight, Real Doctor please heal Shaded and Shaded please target someone at random

[Unknown User]

I hate talking to myself in these topics. I'm gonna stop posting until after numbe (1.5 hrs), unless someone responds before I leave for lunch (0.5 hrs).

[Unknown User]

until after lunch*****************, how the hell did I write numbe instead of lunch, holy crap.

[Unknown User]

Ok, I have come to the conclusion that Escaho CANNOT be the Serial Killer. However, Escaho could be the GODFATHER.

Night 1 - MAFIA Killed, SK Failed.
Night 2 - MAFIA Killed, SK Failed.
Night 3 - MAFIA Killed (LEVELUP), SK Killed.
Night 4 - MAFIA Killed (Cleaned), SK Killed.

The Mafia has NEVER failed in killing, due to the leveling up.
Therefore, the only way the Mafia could know who the SK is if they checked him... which he would come up doctor/sk. So they still don't have proof on the SK.

Escaho claimed to be attacked and healed n1, but the Mafia was successful.
Therefore, it would have to the SK who attacked him. He claimed he was healed, but no doctors confirm.
I believe that Sinclair is a good bet for SK, but I have no proof on this.

[Unknown User]

he claimed that n2*** sorry, hit wrong button

[Unknown User]

I wish I knew if the booster actually leveled Luna up or not =\

This is my List

Godfather: Escaho
Mafioso: ajkei
Consigliere: SirBlayzalot
Doctor: Ubernox
Culted Detective: Goremancer
Bodyguard: Shaded
Citizen: Duzero
Citizen: Duzero

However, if Mopin was a PR and was checked by Mafia before killing, then Shaded could be faking it. We shall see tonight.

[Unknown User]

Oops, Second Citizen should be: Cryptonic... Not 2 Duzero's

[Unknown User]

Forgot to include Sinclair and SK
So here is updated list.

BUT NOW I AM REALLY AFK, I know I said it before, screw you guys

Godfather: Escaho
Mafioso: ajkei
Consigliere: SirBlayzalot
Serial Kiler: Sinclair
Doctor: Ubernox
Culted Detective: Goremancer
Bodyguard: Shaded
Citizen: Duzero
Citizen: Cryptonic

[Goremancer]

Hi guys I'm back. I tracked Escaho and he DIDN'T NOT VISIT ANYONE. I can safely say he is not sk. Notice how the mafia is making a big deal about me being culted. Even if I am culted it would not make any difference at all. I would have no power and would be forced to work with town. Anyway I am quite certain shaded and Duzero are the last mafia members left. Duzero is doing exactly what I expect the mafia to be doing.
-Vote Duzero

[Shaded]

Sorry guys I've been travelling to attend a graduation. I still don't have computer access, but will this evening... About 5-6 pst. So this post won't be formatted well or be very long, but I'll try.

I AM Bodyguard.
N1 I protected Sumi, and watched Brendan.
N2 I protected Luna (a choice I regret, but I was worried people would just want to off a mod.), and watched ubernox.
N3 I protected Goremancer, watched Duzero.
N4 I protected Escaho (I suspected him of WIFOMing doctor at the time.), and watched Duzero again.

I am one random town PR, Gore is the other. That being the case SirBlayzalot is a liar, or Bork was an actress. Please ask any questions of me you want. I can make a better post later.

[Unknown User]

Hi guys I'm back. I tracked Escaho and he DIDN'T NOT VISIT ANYONE. I can safely say he is not sk. Notice how the mafia is making a big deal about me being culted. Even if I am culted it would not make any difference at all. I would have no power and would be forced to work with town. Anyway I am quite certain shaded and Duzero are the last mafia members left. Duzero is doing exactly what I expect the mafia to be doing.
-Vote Duzero

Godfather immune to detection.
Escaho isn't SK.

[Unknown User]

-vote sinclair
Oh, and I take back that ajkei is mafioso.
he was blocked n2 and n4 and there were deaths.
I wish the escort tried blocking someone else

That means Duzero is the liar?

[Unknown User]

I REALLLLLLY hope that the cult infiltrated the Mafia, and that they are completely oblivious lol.

[Unknown User]

McPWNAGE!!!!

1. Does SK kill roleblockers?
2. Does being healed prevent Cult Leader auto-vest from activating?

[Ubernox]

Back now. What a clusterfuck. So, I still don't know how much we can believe what Goremancer says because he's the culted guy, remember?

And why aren't we just voting Sirblayzer?

And then there's Duzero, who I'm pretty sure is the GF trying to pull off a mislynch.

[Ubernox]

Maybe Ajkei isn't the real doctor?

As for Sinclair, I assumed that he was just a citizen lurker.

[Ubernox]

Mass-roleclaiming was a terrible idea. While everyone still has different ideas as to who the scum are, now they know all of our roles. Even I'm not sure whats going on, but for now I'm going to leave my vote resting on Duzero.

-vote Duzero

The current night-action plan is a terrible idea. No plan survives the enemy, and our only chance now is to wifom our night actions in unpredictable ways. I'm disappointed about how all of you just handed your roles to the Godfather on a silver platter.

[Unknown User]

Ubernox still refuses to tell us who he healed...
I guess that makes Ubernox scum!

so, Escaho GF, Ubernox Mafioso, SirBlayzalot Consigliere, Sinclair SK

[Unknown User]

Mass-roleclaiming was a terrible idea. While everyone still has different ideas as to who the scum are, now they know all of our roles. Even I'm not sure whats going on, but for now I'm going to leave my vote resting on Duzero.

-vote Duzero

The current night-action plan is a terrible idea. No plan survives the enemy, and our only chance now is to wifom our night actions in unpredictable ways. I'm disappointed about how all of you just handed your roles to the Godfather on a silver platter.

This post is stupid
Tell us who you healed.


AHHH EVERYONE PANIC, DO RANDOM ACTIONS, AND DON'T MAKE A PLAN BECAUSE IT WON'T WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is the plan

Lynch Sinclair today and we lose 1 KPN.
Then, tonight, Doc heals BG and BG targets Doc.
Then, because of that, Mafia will hit someone else. No WIFOM shit, just target eachother.
Then, There will be 4 Town Members and 3 Mafia members
Then, we lynch SirBlayz.
Then, at night, we do the same thing, and Mafia kills another towny.
This will leave us with 3 Town and 2 Mafia....
If we lynch correctly that day, the BG and Doc are invuln.

I wish Mopin's role wasn't cleaned...