M-FM IX Gamethread

[Unknown User]

I think it was Luna who gave me 10 rep during MFM8 LOL

[creedkingsx]

I really did think clementine was Mason. That was the other reason I wanted her dead on Night Three. She had asked the Doctor to protect Goremancer (detective) and SirBlazyalot (Investigator), I assume one through WIFOM and one through actual healing, which left her wide open to be killed. I would rather kill a semi-confirmed Mason, especially one as valuable as clementine, rather than a shot-in-the-dark at a PR.

She was attacked 4 times, absolute hilarity.

[McJesus]

also Ajkei made a cool rage comic I feel I should put in here because he got cleaned so it couldn't be in his last will...

[Brendan]

lol best escort award guise
role-blocking doctor and citizen
I think the game would've gone differently if the cult leader didn't steal all the useful town power roles.
-vote clementine (players choice)

[Unknown User]

lol best escort award guise
role-blocking doctor and citizen
I think the game would've gone differently if the cult leader didn't steal all the useful town power roles.
-vote clementine (players choice)

Block clementine next game and you'll be fine, she's always evil :P

[creedkingsx]

Dat last will hahaha

[Brendan]

Block clementine next game and you'll be fine, she's always evil :P

Hopefully I won't get escort for a while

[McJesus]

Players Choice Tally:
Luna (1): Ubernox
Escaho (1): Duzero
Clementine (4): Escaho, Cryptonic, SirBlayzalot, Brendan
Shaded (1): Luna

[Zane]

-vote Cryptonic

[Escaho]

Also, lol on Day Five when we all posted our last wills. Duzero systematically found all my derps (I made that last will immediately before posting it) and I was like, "Crap, crap, he's finding all my mistakes! I'm doomed!"

[Ubernox]

But you won anyway, apparently.

[BorkBot]

My opinions are in the dead chat. Unlike most of you, I was really disappointed with this game because the town just didn't try to get any decent reads, ignoring even the most basic scumtells and acting on a whim. Pretty much all the good players were scum. It really doesn't show promise for the future imo.

I agree with the MVP.

I think Shaded should've been given the best new player award (acting so super pro town that it was almost scummy, in order to avoid being killed at night, yet making all the right decisions vote-wise and willing to search for scum based on proper reads). SirBlayzalot's act was very transparent and that the town bought it says more about them than it does about him. So Shaded will get my player's choice vote because he deserves some recognition.

Ubernox was also good, but near the end he slipped up a bit. I guess he knew he had to be lynched at some point anyway.

[Ubernox]

I have my good days and I have my bad days.

[BorkBot]

Also special mention to Goremancer, who had evidence that Gingerape was lying in her last will And he STILL managed to use that as evidence to lynch me. (he tracked her to my place on the night she died, so she hadn't visited me before and couldn't have anything on me in her last will)

Liek wtf? U village idiot bro. Srsly.

[Ubernox]

But, Bork, notice how A LOT of the people here were relatively new. They'll get better. Look at me - I got my rolecard wrong in one of my first games. Plus, the cult had gained quite a few members by the time your trial came too. It was a mixture of hidden-agendas and learning newcomers that did you in. You should cherish these new saplings, instead of stamping on them.

[clementine]

I'm always citizen or neutral LOLOL. (mostly)
Maybe I'd better stop claiming citizen so much so mafia doesn't attack me :[

A big thank you to ajkei, the doctor for healing me from the sk! I was CONVINCED I kept getting mason bludgeoned... I claimed citizen because mason recruiting is before investigations in the order of operations so if an investigator checked me, he would think I was a mason. The investigator wouldn't reveal simply to say "Clementine was masoned last night!" so I would have been safe for at least a while! PRZ Keep healin' me!!!!

Thanks for the votes, but I really got lucky with my recruits... You guys were awesome! I was so happy when I realized I got the booster!!! Too bad CarolinaCrown didn't live long enough to boost town PR roles to help make a difference. We could have had a fully boosted town PR cult!! :P I feel really bad for Shaded, being culted and that same night turning into the cult's sole survivor all alone!!

Player's choice vote for Cryptonic because I think he did very well for his first game besides catching the new-player-spamposts disease. (kinda cute lol) He had good instincts mixed in with the bad, but I think after getting a few more games under his belt, he'll be a great player!

Unluckiest player = Mopin because the first two nights, he hit the only two players in the whole entire game that were night immune. :[

Congrats to mafia, SirBlayzalot and Escaho especially were amazing! Well played, finding ways to take advantage of the situation. :]

[McJesus]

I think if Borkbot didn't want to be lynched he should have acted less trollish instead of blaming the town. Honestly Sir Blayzalot did a better job of appearing like an investigator than Borkbot did. Borky you aren't really in a position to comment because you KNEW that you were the investigator and thus he was probably the cosigliere so you really don't have an objective view of things. I don't really either since I knew everything but the empirical evidence states that Blayz did a better job of being "pro town."

[BorkBot]

Plus, the cult had gained quite a few members by the time your trial came too.

Only shaded was cult.. the rest was already dead from suicides. Escaho is the only mafia who voted to lynch me... 5/7 of the votes that got me lynched before I could talk were townies and Goremancer and Ajkei definitely aren't new.

I think if Borkbot didn't want to be lynched he should have acted less trollish instead of blaming the town. Honestly Sir Blayzalot did a better job of appearing like an investigator than Borkbot did. Borky you aren't really in a position to comment because you KNEW that you were the investigator and thus he was probably the cosigliere so you really don't have an objective view of things. I don't really either since I knew everything but the empirical evidence states that Blayz did a better job of being "pro town."

Ehm.. no. There is nothing suspicious about acting trollish if you're also actively scum hunting, which I was. It's not like I was acting like Viserys in FM12. It's called trying not to get shot at night. SirBlayzalot on the other hand was dropping scumtells left and right, some of which were the results of my scum hunting to unmask him. If people didn't take my attempts at unmasking him seriously that's entirely their fault, not mine. I asked plenty of questions to expose him and he let himself be exposed by poor choice of words under pressure.

[Shaded]

I think Shaded should've been given the best new player award (acting so super pro town that it was almost scummy, in order to avoid being killed at night, yet making all the right decisions vote-wise and willing to search for scum based on proper reads). SirBlayzalot's act was very transparent and that the town bought it says more about them than it does about him. So Shaded will get my player's choice vote because he deserves some recognition.

Thanks Bork, that really means a lot to me coming from you. I was just happy to have an opportunity to get rid of you when I did. After the whole thing with Luna I knew you were going to be a problem once I'd been culted. Lucky me the whole town derped out right after that.

My only regret is... I feel like, if I could have gotten Ajkei to cooperate, I had a chance to pull out a victory for the cult. Ah well, since I never could get forumcow to cooperate with me for dead chat, I'll apologize to my fellow cultists here. Wish I could have turned it around, sorry guys.

That being said, I definitely have to...

-vote Clementine for player's choice award

the best part about becoming cult was gaining access to her notes, cause dayum. After I got ahold of those, I promptly tossed away my own, and they gave me basically my whole strategy for the rest of the game up until I knew it was over.

[Ubernox]

You want to know who the unluckiest player was? Rocshi.

[Ubernox]

Unluckiest player = Mopin because the first two nights, he hit the only two players in the whole entire game that were night immune. :[

And then he was bundled away without a trace. Nothing of value was lost. He didn't even make a last will.

[Shaded]

You want to know who the unluckiest player was? Rocshi.

I second this, poor guy. though I'll admit I kinda laughed evilly after we really found out what was going on.

[McJesus]

I'm kind of suprised you continued to protect people after you got culted as the sole survivor Shaded, I would have probably been like "ah fuck them" and skipped my night action.

Also random fact: I almost put in the RP "beside Shaded's dead body lay Ajkei's hopes of getting MVP" but then I realized that would give too much information away as host. Seriously Ajkei y u no heal Shaded?

[Ubernox]

Only shaded was cult.. the rest was already dead from suicides. Escaho is the only mafia who voted to lynch me... 5/7 of the votes that got me lynched before I could talk were townies and Goremancer and Ajkei definitely aren't new.

Mea culpa. It was just the selection of players left at the time, then. Mafia isn't dead yet.

[Ubernox]

Also random fact: I almost put in the RP "beside Shaded's dead body lay Ajkei's hopes of getting MVP" but then I realized that would give too much information away as host. Seriously Ajkei y u no heal Shaded?

The reason shaded kept fighting was because the only way of him winning was to be the last one left alive, and win the tie with a towny.

[clementine]

You know, if ajkei had followed Cryptonic's plan and healed Shaded every night cult would have won the tie with the last townie. (I ran through an action projection earlier, but I don't have it anymore). When I saw the cult survivor was a bodyguard, I facepalmed. But in retrospect he could have pulled it off...if the doc had cooperated. If that had happened, Shaded would have been MVP for sure.

[Unknown User]

KINDA CUTE

aweeee yeaaa!!



yea, poor Roschi, I felt so bad. lol

[BorkBot]

Rocshi reminded me of the MFM6 thief, where he also roleclaimed anti-town neutral and got himself killed

[Shaded]

I'm kind of suprised you continued to protect people after you got culted as the sole survivor Shaded, I would have probably been like "ah fuck them" and skipped my night action.

Well, I admit that my chances of success were low. But I was hoping to get lucky and nab a scum kill to "confirm" my role as bodyguard. It was risky since I was far more likely to die than survive, but I knew I needed to play a little risky to have any chance at all.

I don't particularly blame Ajkei for not trusting me. I was trying to play myself off as being just scummy enough to survive nights long term, it seems to have worked a little too well.

[Unknown User]

You know, if ajkei had followed Cryptonic's plan and healed Shaded every night cult would have won the tie with the last townie. (I ran through an action projection earlier, but I don't have it anymore). When I saw the cult survivor was a bodyguard, I facepalmed. But in retrospect he could have pulled it off...if the doc had cooperated. If that had happened, Shaded would have been MVP for sure.

Yep, because it would have been Doctor, Culted BG, and GF left.
Then lynch GF and cult win XD
I never thought of that possibility...!

[McJesus]

I think a bodyguard claim was bad in that situation. You were right in looking for Ubernox but because they knew you were bodyguard they sent the night immune godfather to kill instead. If you would have claimed vet and protected ajeki while watching Ubernox it would have been like "suprise bitch, leveled up" but most new players don't think to claim outside their role if they aren't scum. Food for thought

[Unknown User]

I think a bodyguard claim was bad in that situation. You were right in looking for Ubernox but because they knew you were bodyguard they sent the night immune godfather to kill instead. If you would have claimed vet and protected ajeki while watching Ubernox it would have been like "suprise bitch, leveled up" but most new players don't think to claim outside their role if they aren't scum. Food for thought

I started realizing this as the game progressed...
Something new that you don't see in sc2

[Shaded]

Yep, because it would have been Doctor, Culted BG, and GF left.
Then lynch GF and cult win XD
I never thought of that possibility...!

That was my entire evil plan muahahaha.

[Unknown User]

That was my entire evil plan muahahaha.

As soon as Goremancer was killed, and people had seen he wasn't culted, the plan would've been scrapped, I bet, in fears that one of you was culted.

[Shaded]

I think a bodyguard claim was bad in that situation. You were right in looking for Ubernox but because they knew you were bodyguard they sent the night immune godfather to kill instead. If you would have claimed vet and protected ajeki while watching Ubernox it would have been like "suprise bitch, leveled up" but most new players don't think to claim outside their role if they aren't scum. Food for thought

Yeah, I spent a lot of time in this game just learning how intricate the lies get and how deep in you have to get for FM. I hope to take some of those lessons from here and apply it to future games.

[Shaded]

As soon as Goremancer was killed, and people had seen he wasn't culted, the plan would've been scrapped, I bet, in fears that one of you was culted.

Unless the night cleaning mafia got him. Even so if I could have made it as far as Me + Doc + GF, even if the doc knew I was culted he'd be powerless to win. He'd just have to swingvote on cult or maf victory, if he even stopped to think about the ramifications before he voted for the GF.

[Unknown User]

-vote Cryptonic

the flashbacks!
oh dear lord

[Rocshi]

Rocshi reminded me of the MFM6 thief, where he also roleclaimed anti-town neutral and got himself killed

They really did have no reason to lynch me.

Also, where is my promised "Ultimate Derp" award.


Also, CmG shot a claimed Survivor through a claim that had really no holes in it... DAMN YOU.

[Sumikoko]

Lol, in retrospect, I really wished I had claimed vigilante on day 2. Diviner's foreboding future, you know.

As for not leaving it in my last will that I shot Clementine, lol, I sincerely apologize. My reason for not doing so was the same reason why none of you suspected that a vigilante bullet might have been let loose on night 2. It was simply unexpected that I would die so early.

However, as for whether town would win or not if I had included it... That's up for debate. If I had left it in my last will, Clementine would have been lynched, a booster or sheriff would have been left alive. Luna would also have survived, and since the Mafia would not have shot Clem the cult leader, that extra bullet might have taken down a towny. Then again, Shaded would not have been converted the night after. Because it was so early in the game, it wouldn't have made town "win," father, just changed the scenario of the game completely from then on.

As for my player's award, I'll have to give it to Cryptonic. He made a few logical points in the end that I didn't even think of. Such as the presence of the mafioso counteracting against the reason why the Godfather has no visitation immunity. Would have never thought of that.

The funny thing about having new players is that they haven't learned to use meta yet. If Borkbot, or me, or CmG, or any other veteran had been left in Duzuro's situation, we would have voted Escaho right away simply on basis that a good player left alive at the end is nigh impossible.

[BorkBot]

They really did have no reason to lynch me.

Heh, they actually did. A town player was going to die if you were one of the people to open the crypt to fulfil your win condition.

Also, where is my promised "Ultimate Derp" award.

Also, CmG shot a claimed Survivor through a claim that had really no holes in it... DAMN YOU.

When Luna flipped drug dealer, it was proven that the soul thieving was drugged... he made the right call when shooting the confirmed jester.

You derped but I think Gore derped harder

[Duzero]

I believe in giving people a second chance, but this is the second time Escaho betrays me in a fm. First one was five sided town where he turned the outlaws against the mafia(which i was a part of) and now this. Next time he's dead for real!

I did say on day 1 or day 2 that Escaho had to die... should have followed my own advice

[Duzero]

Heh, they actually did. A town player was going to die if you were one of the people to open the crypt to fulfil your win condition.


When Luna flipped drug dealer, it was proven that the soul thieving was drugged... he made the right call when shooting the confirmed jester.

You derped but I think Gore derped harder

I think you did the biggest derp by giving false information intentionally.

[BorkBot]

I think you did the biggest derp by giving false information intentionally.

Only because you don't understand why I did it and because you didn't read this post:

And Escaho's reaction to my info on him should be taken into consideration, because a citizen wouldn't mind taking a bullet at night. A night immune godfather who mysteriously shared opinions with SirBlayzalot and decided to vote me out against his own reasoning from 1 page before might be worried about the SK's death notes, though.

Pro town lies aren't derps. If it weren't for Goremancer tracking Escaho, Escaho might have been lynched as a result of my "info."

[Gingerape]

*hands everyone a glass of derp*

[Duzero]

*hands everyone a glass of derp*

*schleeeeeeeeeeeeerps the derp*

[BorkBot]

*hands everyone a glass of derp*

Is there herp in your derp? I don't want to catch anything

[Gingerape]

^_^
I do think Gore made a pretty big derp when i visited Bork the night i died and claimed he was mafia and Gore said
"It's all true! I watched her" <3 honest mistake

No bork, there's no herp

[Shaded]

^_^
I do think Gore made a pretty big derp when i visited Bork the night i died and claimed he was mafia and Gore said
"It's all true! I watched her" <3 honest mistake

No bork, there's no herp

Took the cult suspicion right off me, allowed us to lynch one of my biggest threat targets, so it worked out very nicely ^^

[Duzero]

Only because you don't understand why I did it and because you didn't read this post:


Pro town lies aren't derps. If it weren't for Goremancer tracking Escaho, Escaho might have been lynched as a result of my "info."

I understand that you might try gambits during the game to get people lynched, but when you got lynched you should have been honest to avoid further confusion. If everyone left last wills that contained forged evidence against people they thought were scum then there wouldn't be a point of last wills.
It's better to leave accurate information so that the remaining players have something to work with.

[BorkBot]

I understand that you might try gambits during the game to get people lynched, but when you got lynched you should have been honest to avoid further confusion. If everyone left last wills that contained forged evidence against people they thought were scum then there wouldn't be a point of last wills.
It's better to leave accurate information so that the remaining players have something to work with.

*shrug*

I told everyone that they should read deeper into posts and I left a huge hint about my real results on Escaho. If you had looked through my posts more thoroughly, you'd have known exactly what I thought of Escaho and why.

I wanted to experiment a little bit to see how this would work out and I guess it didn't really do anything in the end. It didn't do the town any harm either way. Its positive effect was just nullified by Goremancer following him. If I had just said "Escaho is cit/GF, have fun" you would have gained nothing from it.