M-FM IX Gamethread

[McJesus]

Rihfok has been replaced by Goremancer!

[Mopin]

Well was anyone attacked at all? I going to assume we have a cult leader in this game to balance things. After all, we do have a town amnesiac and probably an arsonist for our neutrals, which aren't exactly the best roles for scum in most cases.

[Unknown User]

Well was anyone attacked at all? I going to assume we have a cult leader in this game to balance things. After all, we do have a town amnesiac and probably an arsonist for our neutrals, which aren't exactly the best roles for scum in most cases.

I was not attacked. Only rb'd. anything happen to you?

Either someone was attacked/healed, someone landed a proper rb, we have a killer that hit an immune target, or an arsonist lurking around.

Also, how do you know we have a Town Amnesiac in the game? :o

[Duzero]

I was not attacked. Only rb'd.

Explains why no one claims doused

[Unknown User]

Explains why no one claims doused

HEY GUYS, I FOUND THE BENIGN NEUTRAL

[Rocshi]

I wake up everyday it's a daydream
Everythin' in my life ain't what it seems
I wake up just to go back to sleep
I act real shallow but I'm in too deep

And all I care about is sex and violence
A heavy bass line is my kind of silence
Everybody says that I gotta get a grip
But I let sanity give me the slip

Some people think I'm bonkers
But I just think I'm free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Some people pay for thrills
But I get mine for free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Bonkers

*WHUBWHUBWHUBWHUB*

[Unknown User]

I wake up everyday it's a daydream
Everythin' in my life ain't what it seems
I wake up just to go back to sleep
I act real shallow but I'm in too deep

And all I care about is sex and violence
A heavy bass line is my kind of silence
Everybody says that I gotta get a grip
But I let sanity give me the slip

Some people think I'm bonkers
But I just think I'm free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Some people pay for thrills
But I get mine for free
Man, I'm just livin' my life
There's nothin' crazy about me

Bonkers

*WHUBWHUBWHUBWHUB*

Great song

[clementine]

Hi everybody, last night I was bus driven. I'm honestly a little upset that the bus driver would try to swap me, because in my mind that seems a little anti-town. I almost suspect a Drug Dealer bus drive, but at this point I can't be sure because some people do seem to suspect me already of being mafia. I could have been swapped with CmG for all I know, so I won't go raging at the bus driver just yet. Can anyone else confirm that they were also bus driven? If so, we likely have a bus driver. If not, we likely have a drug dealer (or a scummy neutral who doesn't want to claim for whatever reason).

Cryptonic seems harmless for now. Let's stop wasting our time in daychat interrogating him.
He was likely roleblocked for real; I agree with the reasoning he gave. It's too early to tell, but it also seems a little scummy to me that an escort would try to role block Cryptonic, who claimed an investigative role. Sure, the escort could have thought he was scummy, but I kind of think it makes more sense that mafia has a consort and potentially a drug dealer at this point. I doubt they would have both a consort and a drug dealer though. It seems more likely that the fourth mafia role is framer or lawyer. Just a hunch though. I do not think we have a witch at this point.

I would like to FOS Mopin for not dying N1. Seems like every game I play with him, he dies N1 unless he is mafia or another neutral role.

For now, let's just wait for everyone to check back in with night effects before we jump to any conclusions.

[Unknown User]

Hi everybody, last night I was bus driven. I'm honestly a little upset that the bus driver would try to swap me, because in my mind that seems a little anti-town. I almost suspect a Drug Dealer bus drive, but at this point I can't be sure because some people do seem to suspect me already of being mafia. I could have been swapped with CmG for all I know, so I won't go raging at the bus driver just yet. Can anyone else confirm that they were also bus driven? If so, we likely have a bus driver. If not, we likely have a drug dealer (or a scummy neutral who doesn't want to claim for whatever reason).

Cryptonic seems harmless for now. Let's stop wasting our time in daychat interrogating him.
He was likely roleblocked for real; I agree with the reasoning he gave. It's too early to tell, but it also seems a little scummy to me that an escort would try to role block Cryptonic, who claimed an investigative role. Sure, the escort could have thought he was scummy, but I kind of think it makes more sense that mafia has a consort and potentially a drug dealer at this point. I doubt they would have both a consort and a drug dealer though. It seems more likely that the fourth mafia role is framer or lawyer. Just a hunch though. I do not think we have a witch at this point.

I would like to FOS Mopin for not dying N1. Seems like every game I play with him, he dies N1 unless he is mafia or another neutral role.

For now, let's just wait for everyone to check back in with night effects before we jump to any conclusions.

All good info, taking notes now.
In all honesty, I tried to act a bit scummy day 1 in hopes that lots of people would target me so I could find out more information. Only 1 notification tho. But, because of that, I'm still 50/50 with escort/consort.

[Duzero]

Oh hi claimontime, how many layers of wifom do you have in this game? I will be disappointed if it's less than 3

[Unknown User]

Also, In my opinion, I believe that it was a BD that targetted you.
Because I think the best results for a Drug Dealer night one would either be attacked and healed or witched.

[BorkBot]

Also, In my opinion, I believe that it was a BD that targetted you.
Because I think the best results for a Drug Dealer night one would either be attacked and healed or witched.

I think it's slightly curious that this is the second time you insist that it's unlikely that a drug dealer performed the action. Looks like you really don't want us to suspect there might be one in the game.

[Unknown User]

I think it's slightly curious that this is the second time you insist that it's unlikely that a drug dealer performed the action. Looks like you really don't want us to suspect there might be one in the game.

No... I never said not to suspect one, I just said it's unlikely that these actions are caused by a drug dealer.

If I were a drug dealer, I would not fake rb n1. because if you fake rb and investigative role, they see they are rb but still see the outcome. Therefore, it would be a bad call to use that action.

Secondly, bussing does barely anything night one.

The best bet for a drug dealer night one would be attack and healed, because then we would all think there was another KPN and the doctor might think there is a second doctor.
Or, alternatively, the drug dealer could make someone think they were witched. This could easily screw anybody up, because they wouldn't know who they targetted, and the town would start hunting for a witch that might not even be in the game.

BD and RB as Drug Dealer night one is just not logical.

[Ubernox]

I must agree with my previous-enemy Clementine, there is scummyness afoot today. No harm in FOSing Mopin for a bit.

Methinks that Cryptonic is either:

1. Lying about something.

2. Was blocked by a consort.

I'm kind of inclined to think towards option 2, because I'm not sure why he would do option 1 - even if he is trying to pull something dastardly.

[Ubernox]

Whoops, is Cryptonic tripping up on himself?

[Unknown User]

Whoops, is Cryptonic tripping up on himself?

how am I tripping up? lol
I'm giving sound reasoning to my claims lol.

[clementine]

Cryptonic is either hyperactive-trying-to-be-helpful-citizen or godfather-trying-to-mislead-us.
Only citizen and godfather (and maybe a benign neutral) don't mind being role blocked N1, and wouldn't have any status effects to tell them if it's a real or fake role block. He posted that a drug dealer wouldn't fake role block him in case he had any night action feedback. I believe this much about Cryptonic's role.

I'm in charge of the mafia apparently:

Day 1:
Cryptonic: OK GUYS.
We'll start lynching at #1. Duzero and move down the list.

Killers will start at #20. CmG and move up the list.

sounds like a plan???


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should we... lynch... him...?

Starting to look at this whole post in a new light... Wouldn't it be awkward if Cryptonic actually WAS in charge of the mafia... as godfather!!!? FOS on him too for now.

[Unknown User]

Cryptonic is either hyperactive-trying-to-be-helpful-citizen or godfather-trying-to-mislead-us.
Only citizen and godfather (and maybe a benign neutral) don't mind being role blocked N1, and wouldn't have any status effects to tell them if it's a real or fake role block. He posted that a drug dealer wouldn't fake role block him in case he had any night action feedback. I believe this much about Cryptonic's role.



Starting to look at this whole post in a new light... Wouldn't it be awkward if Cryptonic actually WAS in charge of the mafia... as godfather!!!? FOS on him too for now.

Hahaha I love absolutely everything about this post.
+1ing the shit outta it

[Ubernox]

Hahaha, yeah that would be funny. That's a funny joke, because it's a joke and it's not true. Ha. Ha ha ha. Ha.

I dunno... something seems fishy.

[Unknown User]

block Cryptonic, i'm gonna kill CmG.

holy shit, found this by google searching you.

[Ubernox]

Wine In Front Of Me.

[BorkBot]

If I were a drug dealer, I would not fake rb n1. because if you fake rb and investigative role, they see they are rb but still see the outcome. Therefore, it would be a bad call to use that action.

It could be used as a second "investigation" of sorts. If you hadn't said anything, or something like "hey guys I got drugged last night there's a drug dealer in the game" they would've known that you had a night action with feedback and killed you for it. Or if you were an FM newb, you might have asked for an explanation in the day chat or something.

The best bet for a drug dealer night one would be attack and healed, because then we would all think there was another KPN and the doctor might think there is a second doctor.

I beg to differ. If there had been a serial killer kill alongside the mafia kill today and the drug was used on someone who performed no night action last night, we'd instantly know there to be a drug dealer in the game (because 2 serial killers is just not happening).

Or, alternatively, the drug dealer could make someone think they were witched. This could easily screw anybody up, because they wouldn't know who they targetted, and the town would start hunting for a witch that might not even be in the game.

This would be a better option.

[Unknown User]

btw it's not only Jester/Amnesiac/GF/Cit/Survivor that doesn't mind being rb n1

[Unknown User]

OK, well guys, I am heading home from work now.
I probably won't pop back in until the morning.
So I hope to see some news.

Btw, if anyone wondering why I post so much, I work insurance.
That is 7 hours a day at a computer doing 3 hours of work.
I use FM to pace myself :P

[Shaded]

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Cryptonic sure is dominating the chat. That seems iffy to me by itself without all the strange allusions and general scumminess.

[BorkBot]

Jester/Amnesiac/GF/Cit/Survivor

Jailor, Vigilante, Mayor, Executioner, Actress, Doctor (because night 1 heals never work), Booster (because night 1 boosts would be stupid)

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Cryptonic sure is dominating the chat. That seems iffy to me by itself without all the strange allusions and general scumminess.

I agree. I want to dominate the chat myself. I'm totally not going to take CmG's role by the way, so I'm still neutral and everybody's friend

[Shaded]

Jailor, Vigilante, Mayor, Executioner, Actress, Doctor (because night 1 heals never work), Booster (because night 1 boosts would be stupid)


I agree. I want to dominate the chat myself. I'm totally not going to take CmG's role by the way, so I'm still neutral and everybody's friend

Ah yes, I find it interesting that you claimed town amnesiac so early, as well. I can think of plenty of reasons why mafia would have wanted to kill you but quick, considering that essentially makes you a future town power role.

So why are you still here? And don't say it's because you could prove helpful to maf in the future, because no booster would be stupid enough to change your alignment.

[BorkBot]

Ah yes, I find it interesting that you claimed town amnesiac so early, as well. I can think of plenty of reasons why mafia would have wanted to kill you but quick, considering that essentially makes you a future town power role.

So why are you still here? And don't say it's because you could prove helpful to maf in the future, because no booster would be stupid enough to change your alignment.

I might be a mafia amnesiac. They don't know, and neither do you.

And honestly, they have no reason to consider killing me until there's a town PR in the graveyard of which they really don't want to see another. A "potential future PR" doesn't actually perform any actions that they have to worry about.

[Duzero]

I might be a mafia amnesiac. They don't know, and neither do you.

And honestly, they have no reason to consider killing me until there's a town PR in the graveyard of which they really don't want to see another. A "potential future PR" doesn't actually perform any actions that they have to worry about.

You will die because you are a potential threat, its better than killing another citizen.

[Ubernox]

"As the silence (also known as Lack Of CmG) settled pleasantly, it was only to be disrupted once again by the derpish mastermind Borkboy."

[Ubernox]

The thing is, Shaded, that town amnesiac can easily be wifom'd to mean mafia amnesiac. Infact, if you use wifom correctly, every statement you make can cater to both mafia and town, thus ensuring your (my) survival.

Speaking of, I just watched TPB the other day. We should have a COM livestream of it sometime.

[Gingerape]

2. No editing posts. Offenders will be modcocked!

<3

Anyway, I'll take my guesses on the neutral evils.
Probably arsonist.
...I would say witch, but

Evil Neutral: Serial Killer, Arsonist, Cult Leader, Soul Thief
Benign Neutral: Survivor, Jester, Executioner, Town Amnesiac, Mafia Amnesiac

it's not there, probably just overlooked it?
...so maybe a soul thief?
But then I would think someone would be complaining about how they are a citizen now, in my opinion.
...so maybe a Serial Killer hit an immune, or a cultist.
It's too early to tell, but if there is an arsonist, I would expect him to wait till he has 4 targets doused in order to level up

[Ubernox]

I have a hunch that there's going to be a Soul Thief somewhere. I think it was catered to nicely in the FAQ and such.

[Sumikoko]

I'm actually quite surprised there weren't more kills. For one thing, especially about Luna's role as Veteran.

Since no one died from a seeming "veteran" visitation, I can only assume that either Luna is not a veteran, or that the Mafia does not have a witch. Or the Mafia may be idiots, which is always a good thing. Or we have really pro doctors up in here. Anyone claiming attacked and healed yet?

Nothing happened to me at night.

[Ubernox]

Because Luna is always visited on night 1.

[Gingerape]

Oh nevermind, I'm dumb, a witch is on the mafia alignment.
Forget everything i said forever.
*cries* I failed my first post in the mfm

[Ubernox]

Oh nevermind, I'm dumb, a witch is on the mafia alignment.
Forget everything i said forever.
*cries* I failed my first post in the mfm

It pains me to see you so distressed. Take heart; you are not the first person to fail their first post in their first FM.

[Rocshi]

Someone brought this up earlier, murr.

I find it REALLY suspicious that Cryptonic is trying to divert any possible attention away from a drug dealer.

Perhaps there is one in his mafia?

-vote Cryptonic

[Unknown User]

Someone brought this up earlier, murr.

I find it REALLY suspicious that Cryptonic is trying to divert any possible attention away from a drug dealer.

Perhaps there is one in his mafia?

-vote Cryptonic

Once again, I NEVER said that there wasn't a Drug Dealer.
I only stated that I doubt Drug Dealer for my RB
and I doubted Drug Dealer for clem's bus.
Not everyone has checked in, maybe there is a drug dealer.
I was speaking about TWO events, not the entire game.

[Mopin]

I'm going to assume the neutrals are the Cult Leader and Soul Thief, which would make sense regarding how balanced it would be and how they are a lot more interesting compared to the Serial Killer or Arsonist.

Also nothing happened to me last night.

[Ubernox]

Let's not forget that it's perfectly possibly that an SK kill was saved, or that there has been an unannounced douse. There's really no way of knowing in any practical way at this stage - mine is merely a hunch.

-vote Cryptonic as long as it's only pressure. If this thing reaches any more than five votes, I'm unvoting.

[Mopin]

Let's not forget that it's perfectly possibly that an SK kill was saved, or that there has been an unannounced douse. There's really no way of knowing in any practical way at this stage - mine is merely a hunch.

-vote Cryptonic as long as it's only pressure. If this thing reaches any more than five votes, I'm unvoting.

I don't see how pressure votes work if you announce that you'll unvote soon after. Everyone seems to do it in FMs and I can't see how it would have any affect at all, as its not like anything will come of your 'pressure'.

Either way -Vote Cryptonic

Might as well do something a little interesting.

[Duzero]

This guy seems scummy, I got this weird feeling from his posts and since more people doubt him it makes me more certain.

-vote Cryptonic

[Unknown User]

This guy seems scummy, I got this weird feeling from his posts and since more people doubt him it makes me more certain.

-vote Cryptonic

to be honest, I find you more scummy. You and Mopin lol

[Duzero]

to be honest, I find you more scummy. You and Mopin lol

May your death be swift and painless.

In loving memory of CmG ~

[Ubernox]

Two more votes and I'm unvoting that shit. Careful there.

@Mopin the threat is that it doesn't stop when it's meant to, and the possibility of it becoming a wayward train. The threat of lynch is always a prominent danger.

[Mopin]

Honestly I think BorkBot is a town PR to me trying to convince mafia not to shoot him. It's not exactly hard to fake being the amnesiac and I doubt the mafia or even town would risk killing a possible ally.

I guess it's up for the mafia to decide, but I reckon town should just ignore BorkBot for the time being.

[BorkBot]

The first night kill is always random and town got lucky. The chance they'll hit another citizen tonight is very minimal, because they'll now have something to go off of.

[Ubernox]

Bork has always been one for daring gambits.

[BorkBot]

Oh dear, the mafia is already using day chat to discuss if they should kill me or not.

HALP! I NEED A DOCTER!