SampsaTK: 2-S2-1-2093664 ; Beastrick: 2-S2-1-1973160

[Yumbra]

Account Name: Salty
Account ID: 2-S2-1-1429790

Account Name: SampsaTK
Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664

[b]Crimes Committed: Cheating

[b]In-Game Name:Aziz Achmed (Salty) Darth Bieber (SampsaTK)
[b]Summary: First day, the jailor (SampsaTK) claimed to be detective (or similar role) by saying that the jester have visited the killer and the town resulted in lynching the him and overall resulted him in winning and us losing one of our ally. There's some serious issue here; why would the jailor be claiming to be a detective and secondly, claim that the jester is a killer and helping him to win on the first day, resulting town getting weaker. This implies that there's methods used unintended by the game (Skyping or similar methods) - communicating each other their roles and help each of them to win. In conclusion, I think they deserve punishment by banning them (even though cheating isn't usually result in ban) or atleast be put into kickvote list as they're cheating and resulting in unfair games which doesn't benefit from the game and the community.

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[Menautor]

I reviewed this complaint. Obviously he wants them banned, and I tend to agree but not for the same reasons.

I tried to see how it would be possible to explain what happened. I cannot. It is obvious that Sampsatk helped Salty get his jester win. Several Remarque towards the end makes me think that there were more than 2 person skyping together, specifically StephanoII,

What is more surprising, during my review of all the facts and players, I came across the –alist menu. As you can see, three players are clearly hacking their way thru the system obtaining more points, and victories then game played. How can this be?

Stephano II, 2-S2-1-1313582, Monster : 14979 points, 498 Victories, 382 Games played, won all roles
SampsaTK :7211 points, 294 Victories, 139 Games played, won all roles
Love me, 2-S2-1-483219, Rafales: 4474 points, 190 Victories, 115 Games played

Another thing, Salty wasn’t on the list? Why would that be? There were 15 players but only 14 on the –alist. He knows too much for a first time player.

Conclusion, I would strip the accounts of the 3 hackers, and ban them. Salty is clearly associated with the hackers and should be minimum on the kick list even tho this would constitute his first report.

[Tasogare_Akira]

The first thing I would like to mention is that some of the older players have messed up banks, which can result in more games won than played. Their point amounts look about right for their victory count, at the very least.

[Tasogare_Akira]

If you suspect hacking of any kind from now on, contact me directly, please.

[Elixir]

If these players have been playing for a while it will show that.

We tracked games won before games played. I think mine is like 492 wins to 299 games or something. So I dont think there's anything wrong with their points/achievements.

edit: first offense, dw, even blatant as it is lol

[Menautor]

will do, sorry

[Ambient]

Actually, since this is EU. I am going to approve it, and let Rev decide.

It is very blatant.

[Night]

Account Name: SampsaTK
Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
In-Game Name: Yuzhaan Vong

Crimes Committed:Game-Throwing and possible skyping

Your Account Name: NightDragon

Summary: Sampsa was the janitor. First night he wanted to kill Indolent the vigilante. Gf refused it. Following night he killed him self and left his last will nameming all the mafia members.-Mafia- (22).SC2Replay

Pls Mods remove one m from his name in the threads name.

[Lysergic]

Previously Watch Listed player.

Does exactly what the report says. After the GF doesn't listen to his advice N1, he reveals fellow Mafia in will (including that yellow was jailed at night - a fact that someone without a night chat COULD NOT have known) and rage quits.

Approved. Recommend KV.

[stanoly]

[b]Account Name: SampsaTK
[b]Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
[b]In-Game Name: BKP

[b]Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing and cheating (cheating in multiple ways)

[b]Your Account Name: stanoly
[b]Summary: Well mayor pretty much used his 4 votes to random vote to avoid the arsonist getting lynched. As soon as he had enough votes to be able to skip a day alone he started to skip all days until arso had doused everyone. He prolly skyped with arsonist. This was a 100% town win but sadly mayor had 1 vote too much and were able to ruin it for all of us.

I would say this is game-throwing, griefing and skyping.

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[Warpspider]

Account Name: SampsaTK
Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
In-Game Name: BKP

Crimes Committed: Cheating

Your Account Name: Warpspider
Summary: Mayor revealed himself quite early in the game, mafia was dead because they left, only 1 arso and cult was left. After a few random trial by the mayor, I (Al Capone) found arso (SovietPC) i told everyone and mayor still decide to trial someone else, then lynch him (he had bad defense) turns out he was cultist. The day after the last cultist was killed by the Mason Leader, and arso continued to douse people. Right after the "Discussion" timer reached 0 the mayor skipped the day (since he had 4 votes he could do it solo), the next day and the day after he did the same. The last day (with the anonymous ballot) we convinced him to stop skipping, instead he chose to lynch a random townie, again directly after the "discussion" timer reached 0, the day after we were all dead and arsonist got his "Disco Inferno" achievment.
To be honest i don't know if it was pure gamethrowing or actually cheating with arsonist, but he made us loose on purpose when everybody knew who was Arsonist.
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[Nordan]

Account Name: SampsaTK
Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
In-Game Name: Zeke

Crimes Committed: Cheating

Your Account Name: Artanis
Summary : (Sorry for my bad english...)
In this game (see replay below), I really think Zeke and Chass was talking outside the game. They knew their role and their name : Zeke, a vigilante, was helping his mate arsonist, Chass. In this game I was the escort, "Adria the Witch".

First, they joined the game at the same moment. I added them at my friends list, and I discovered that they are often playing together.

Zeke shot randomly some guys who were not doused (luck ? I don't think so), said he was doused when I blocked Chass (but he was not douse, strange ?), and then at the end of the game, when amnesiac took the lookout role, he said that he was the amnesiac... He was vigilante, why did he lie ?

When I blocked Zeke, Chass said he was doused. This was really, really confusing in game.
I know it's a bit confusing (in the game it was most confusing), just watch the replay with Zeke vision, it's very... strange.

Here are the account ID for Chass :
Account Name: Beastrick
Account ID: 2-S2-1-1973160
In-Game Name: Chass

Replay :
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[Ambient]

Note: New reports merged. New reports need review.

[Raptorblaze]

Reviews in Progress....

[Raptorblaze]

[b]Account Name: SampsaTK
[b]Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
[b]In-Game Name: BKP

[b]Crimes Committed: Game-Throwing and cheating (cheating in multiple ways)

[b]Your Account Name: stanoly
[b]Summary: Well mayor pretty much used his 4 votes to random vote to avoid the arsonist getting lynched. As soon as he had enough votes to be able to skip a day alone he started to skip all days until arso had doused everyone. He prolly skyped with arsonist. This was a 100% town win but sadly mayor had 1 vote too much and were able to ruin it for all of us.

I would say this is game-throwing, griefing and skyping.

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Account: Beastrick
ID: 2-S2-1-1973160
Ingame: SovietPC

Relevant hotkeys:
Beastrick 2
SampsaTK 3

Judgement:
These two were working together by communication outside the normal game channels in order to ensure the Arsonist (Beastrick)'s victory. Adjacent slots, always voted together, it's fairly blatant.

Verdict
SampsaTK 1x Gamethrowing 1x Cheating
Beastrick 1x Cheating

[Raptorblaze]

Account Name: SampsaTK
Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
In-Game Name: BKP

Crimes Committed: Cheating

Your Account Name: Warpspider
Summary: Mayor revealed himself quite early in the game, mafia was dead because they left, only 1 arso and cult was left. After a few random trial by the mayor, I (Al Capone) found arso (SovietPC) i told everyone and mayor still decide to trial someone else, then lynch him (he had bad defense) turns out he was cultist. The day after the last cultist was killed by the Mason Leader, and arso continued to douse people. Right after the "Discussion" timer reached 0 the mayor skipped the day (since he had 4 votes he could do it solo), the next day and the day after he did the same. The last day (with the anonymous ballot) we convinced him to stop skipping, instead he chose to lynch a random townie, again directly after the "discussion" timer reached 0, the day after we were all dead and arsonist got his "Disco Inferno" achievment.
To be honest i don't know if it was pure gamethrowing or actually cheating with arsonist, but he made us loose on purpose when everybody knew who was Arsonist.
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This is from the same game as the first report.

[Raptorblaze]

Account Name: SampsaTK
Account ID: 2-S2-1-2093664
In-Game Name: Zeke

Crimes Committed: Cheating

Your Account Name: Artanis
Summary : (Sorry for my bad english...)
In this game (see replay below), I really think Zeke and Chass was talking outside the game. They knew their role and their name : Zeke, a vigilante, was helping his mate arsonist, Chass. In this game I was the escort, "Adria the Witch".

First, they joined the game at the same moment. I added them at my friends list, and I discovered that they are often playing together.

Zeke shot randomly some guys who were not doused (luck ? I don't think so), said he was doused when I blocked Chass (but he was not douse, strange ?), and then at the end of the game, when amnesiac took the lookout role, he said that he was the amnesiac... He was vigilante, why did he lie ?

When I blocked Zeke, Chass said he was doused. This was really, really confusing in game.
I know it's a bit confusing (in the game it was most confusing), just watch the replay with Zeke vision, it's very... strange.

Here are the account ID for Chass :
Account Name: Beastrick
Account ID: 2-S2-1-1973160
In-Game Name: Chass

Replay :
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Relevant Hotkeys:
Beastrick 6
SampsaTK 7

Blatant and obvious again, they constantly vote as a pair, never target the same people, are in adjacent slots, and Sampsa throws the game to help Beastrick win as he has done in previous reports.

Verdict:
SampsaTK 1x Gamethrowing 1x Cheating
Beastrick 1x Cheating

Recommendations:
SampsaTK 4x Kick-vote List
Beastrick Kick-Vote List

[Ambient]

SampsaTK 4x Kick-vote List
Beastrick Kick-Vote List