Petition to skip Claw's hosting and ban him from fm

[McJesus]

Yup so if you haven't been following the skypes Claw is a gamethrowing douche and forum mafia xii may be ruined because of him. He was supposed to host fmxiii but I really don't think anyone wants that so I am starting this petition to say fuck you claw and have him stripped of hosting. Claw is worse than Crimson's game throwing stunt in fmiv (who he was the fucking host of) and as much as we love his crazy schemes he should be banned from playing forum mafia indefinitely. If we don't impose severe penalties on gamethrowers than the integrity of forum mafia will be shit.

p.s fuck you claw

the petition:
1. McPwnage
2. Grim-Demon

[FalseTruth]

He deactivated his account already. There's no real point to this thread. He won't ever be hosting again.

[Gingerape]

How did he ruin FM12? ._.
Did I miss something?

[Dust]

How did he ruin FM12? ._.
Did I miss something?

So I'm not the only one. From reading McJesus' post I take it that Claw was gamethrowing on Skype.

Tsk Tsk, Claw

[Ambient]

Ambient finds this all very disappointing.

[GriM-DeMoN]

/Sign

[Kovath]

He deactivated his account already. There's no real point to this thread. He won't ever be hosting again.

Is he still in the FM?

[Rocshi]

Is he still in the FM?

FM is over.
There might be a complete restart, or it might be abandoned completely.

[Kovath]

FM is over.
There might be a complete restart, or it might be abandoned completely.

That bad?

[Nick]

More dramas? Get the llamas.

[Kovath]

More dramas? Get the llamas.

Wtf Nick? Stuff a d***

lol

Seriously though, that wasn't funny

[Dust]

More dramas? Get the llamas.

LLAMAS!!!!!

[creedkingsx]

He gave up all the members of his mafia team to the jailor, and publicly.

[Gingerape]

He gave up all the members of his mafia team to the jailor, and publicly.

Oh.

[Muso]

Wow I just came home early and was about to start reading page 11 (I have it set to 50 pages per page) when I was skyped with "FM 12 IS OVER"

Still yet to read page 11. I do see you guys lynched another jester day 1 though.

[Arexjamin]

Told you guys Claw was an asshat. >_>

[FrostByte]

Fuckin Claw. Whiny little bitch who can't handle a little frustration. Fuck him and whoever else was involved in gamethrowing. Grow the fuck up and realize that your actions don't just effect you and your assclown friends, but completely fucked everyone who was playing the game.
I was just getting over being frustrated about being re-rolled, too.
Sonofabitch.

[FrostByte]

Wow I just came home early and was about to start reading page 11 (I have it set to 50 pages per page) when I was skyped with "FM 12 IS OVER"

Still yet to read page 11. I do see you guys lynched another jester day 1 though.

I'm just gonna go ahead and ask this in public -
Did you know this was gonna happen?
It's kind of odd how this turn of events may benefit you and your new mafia forum. What are your thoughts?

[Rihfok]

How long was the "playmaf" thing hidden?
It seems weird to me, just going and leaving, saying "we're better than you".

[Arexjamin]

I know I'm not going to support their new forum - Seriously, if their method of recruitment is gamethrowing in a forum mafia they belonged to, I don't even want to think about what they do in their own FMs. :P

[Rihfok]

I know I'm not going to support their new forum - Seriously, if their method of recruitment is gamethrowing in a forum mafia they belonged to, I don't even want to think about what they do in their own FMs. :P

I'm not going there too.
Sad to see half of the senior members already there.

[Kromos]

Congratulations Kromos! You are one of a handful of people selected to receive an invite to the beta of playmaf.com, a site created by two forum mafia enthusiasts.

This new, groundbreaking site is a hub for hardcore fans of the forum mafia genre of gaming. The site is differentiated into many subtypings of forum mafia games that are played within specific forums to allow for easy navigation. Although the site is focused on forum mafia, it also has boards for unrelated topics so that the community may get to know one another a little better. If you arent necessarily keen on investing your time into forum mafia, but want to get involved in a community of critical thinkers, this is still a great place for you.

We are currently working out some kinks in our forum before we make our graduation from beta to global release. In order to test the system more thoroughly, we need more participants and we are grateful to you for helping us as we embark on this incredible journey.

It is our kind request that you do not provide the link to playmaf.com anywhere because it is our desire to remain exclusive for the time being. Our forums are not yet completed and there remains much work to be done.

Time to get started! You can start creating your own games in C-FM or sign up for games in any forum. Feel free to use any id you want. You are not required to use ids from previous forums, but you are free to do so if you desire. Be sure to read the rules before posting anything. Although our forum will be lenient, we will not tolerate blatant stupidity or those who refuse to read the rules. We want the forum to be a community experience enjoyable to ALL, so we will ensure that you and your fellow members are treated with due respect.

Have fun on the forums, we do hope you enjoy your stay!

FalseTruth & Muso

The PM I received.

I suggest making your own opinions. Jack presents a very one sided view point but there is clearly a lot of fault on Claw and FalseTruth if you look through the bias. I don't know much about what's happening and I don't really care tbh. All I want to is have fun playing mafia and I don't know how there can be this much childish fighting on a forum about a sc2 mod.

I'd like to see FM XII restarted if Jack and Cap are willing to do so. I hope this is the end of game throwing and skype chats about FM but I know it won't be.

[FrostByte]

The PM I received.

I suggest making your own opinions. Jack presents a very one sided view point but there is clearly a lot of fault on Claw and FalseTruth if you look through the bias. I don't know much about what's happening and I don't really care tbh. All I want to is have fun playing mafia and I don't know how there can be this much childish fighting on a forum about a sc2 mod.

I'd like to see FM XII restarted if Jack and Cap are willing to do so. I hope this is the end of game throwing and skype chats about FM but I know it won't be.

I originally posted in the "more info" thread asking for an opinion from others who were involved, but Jack threw my fucking post out.
-1 Jack. Boooooooooooooo. Fascist.
You should most definitely restart the game, I feel like all of us save for those who gamethrew definitely wanna play.
Just cut anyone who you think was involved. I don't think the community will blame you much.

[clementine]

I never got an invite!! :[

[Rihfok]

I never got an invite!! :[

Only the super-veteran players were invited, those that they trusted to keep their little project in secret.

[creedkingsx]

Fucking knew claw was mafia. Why is he so bad? :P

[clementine]

It's sad that the community is breaking up!!! :[

[creedkingsx]

It's sad that the community is breaking up!!! :[

We will never break up! This is a committed relationship

[Clawtrocity]

You guys need to understand a few things before you go off on random tangents about this conspiracy theory.

The new site was made after False was kicked out and had a lot of free time. Muso, Me, and Waaaagh were committed to playing the game.

Flashforward to the actual game when I called out Waaaagh as detective. We as a mafia team investigated him the night before and found out he was in the citizen category. We had a code setup that allowed me and the other mafia team members to see what he was.

That's why I was pestering him about a night action. I knew that if he slipped up and said anything about a night action I'd be able to call him out as investigator and kill the cult leader. Surprise, surprise he was actually cult leader and had I not been jailed I would have let the mafia know to kill Waaaagh even before I realized he really was cult leader. He was acting a bit too strange(Turns out he thought I was the one who witched him the past night)

So I needed an excuse and Lysergic was being so blatant with breaking the metagame rule that I knew how easy it was going to be. I made a few posts angrily calling out for there to be justice and instead of either ignoring me or being normal about the situation(They knew who I targeted last night and why I was calling Waaaaagh out) they decided to be aggressive and threatening publicly. Cap messaged me on Skype inbetween I think the 1st and the 2nd and 3rd posts by the FM game master regarding this saying: "I wonder if you can convince the town this had nothing to do with the game, because you certainly didn't fool me." So why the need to be so hostile?

I then found it weird that after that a few people were so aggressive to kill me. I thought for sure Cap or Jack let them know who I was or that I was lying or something. It made no sense for the small group of people to go after me for what was essentially nothing. Little did I know that Jack and Cap were so set on getting me killed they decided to break the actual mechanics of the game to let me get auto-jailed.

Regardless I was in jail as a godfather that night and I had nothing to do. No version of roleclaiming would save me, I wouldn't be able to trick an Australian, and I wouldn't be able to talk my way out of it. So I had nothing left to lose, but I had to protect my team. It was risky as always, but if I just told him 3 people there is no way the town would believe him and I would have outed the jailor. You can't sit there and tell me that I was gamethrowing when I had nothing else to say. I was promptly modkilled so I figured if Cap wanted to be a dick then I would too. I left my team in my signature and cap removed it. Both times it was about getting a set of 3 names into the public that the "douchebag claw" would totally lie about.

I had to deal with a lot in the FM4. I had to deal with the mafia talking to the wrong person. I had to deal with 3 trolls talking out of game. I also had to deal with Crimson. If you hadn't noticed Crimson gave away all the mafia when he wasn't on a mafia team. That pretty much sealed the deal for that game. On top of that it had been the first time someone had thrown a game. It wasn't even Crimson that really did it either it was Caress, S.A.S. and Crimson working together to throw the game. I've been public about hating Crimson for that ever since then, but I don't hold grudges for very long if ever. Me and Crimson had talked on skype plenty before this game and I had no issue with him. I of course called him a cheating douchebag, but I call everyone a douchebag.

Regardless this entire situation could have been avoided if Cap and Jack were blinded by rage goggles. They knew what I was up to, they were angry that I tried to ruin their meta game rule, and they put me in the jail where I was left very little strategic leeway. I'm never going to sit around and do nothing no matter what role I get. I'll always try something new to see if it works and if it doesn't then I won't use it again. I copy, transform, and combine strategies I see used everywhere and that's what makes FM so fun. It's always about trying new things and never just sitting back and letting night actions happen. This has nothing to do with the new website and I had planned on hosting both FM13 and a new game on our new site. I apologize for having the game being ended, but in all honesty it didn't need to be. Nothing that I said was truly worthy of ending the game. I had half the scum roles be told to me after I was modkilled and leaked 0 of them. The only ones I leaked were of my own team and if everyone continues to believe that every player in FM works in his own interest why would I ever release my real teammates? I'd end up losing and that'd be the worst thing in the world.

Yeah, I'm pretty much done here on this forums, but not because of me getting modkilled. It's because the majority of that past game was intolerable. Not only were people not reading posts and trolling constantly, but as soon as I was modkilled and the information from one side came out everyone leaped to slit my throat. Not one person other than Waaaagh, False, and Muso, waited to hear my side before voting me off the island. Obviously I was angry as fuck last night when I found out everyone was being a cock so I was being a cock back. I wish you guys luck and hopefully FM12 can start back up. I wish I had not been angry and restarted FM4 so if I had any advice to Cap and Jack that'd be it. Here's to hoping everyone reads this post before seeing I posted something and just calling me a jackass.

[McJesus]

-vote claw, lets lynch him for reals

[creedkingsx]

You assume too much. While it is plausible they jailed and executed you for their own benefit, it is just as likely that it was, in fact, all completely random. Also, Cap and Jack never told me anything about you being scum. I had a hunch, I pressured you, you continued to get angry and attempt to insult Lys and I, and I continued to think you were scummier. I was right. I can't speak for Lys, but I am willing to bet he was told nothing in light of you actually being scum either. It was so overt, I am amazed Blazer got lynched before you.

[Clawtrocity]

I'm going to respond to some of the accusations in the thread by Jack just because I can't post there.

He says this was all motivated by the new forums. We had no intention of stealing members or anything of the sort. We would obviously invite you all to join, but False had plans to advertise the site elsewhere and build up slowly. There was no reason to not participate in both as I'm trying to participate in 3 FM games coming up. TeamLiquid, MMO-Champion, and the one on Playmaf. It's merely another outlet for those who wish to have fun.

They said we did it to spite Rev. That's so wrong. This has nothing to do with Rev. I gave Rev a heads up so he knew he could give me the Kevinpowers treatment that everyone so viciously craved.

My message that I sent to Rev:
"If you want you can make a cool post on the forums explaining how you banned me to avoid bad PR and pitchforks/torches. Delete my account for added benefit. The mob is gonna gun for me hard. Keep up the good work on SC2Mafia though because I still wanna play that shit daily."

This literally had nothing to do with rev. I'm donator, I think False and Muso also have donated. We've moderated the site, we've helped test the game since before it was even fully released. We all love SC2Mafia. We do however dislike the huge jump between games. Trolls are cared for on this site even after the switch from the COM forums. Philie has gone as far as to say that she loves the trolls as if they're cute little bunny rabbits. That's what I've never been able to stand. The people who blog in FM day chats or act like they aren't even playing a game. I'm fine with jokes and pushing buttons of others, but the community has slipped up a bit from past FMs. Anonymous accounts may have contributed to that, but as we've seen with FM12 non-anon wasn't fun for the players. There was no way to hide, no way to change a strategy. If you played any different it would be considered scummy and you would die.

I've already answered the Crimson question. I was angry when I said those things and I, as well as the rest of the forums, have forgiven Crimson even if he is a douchebag.

On top of that they decided to make a hidden rule that only they knew about where I was screwed anyway. There was no high road there was no chance at getting out. They were mad at me for no reason because as I said...They knew exactly what I was doing and why I was doing it yet decided to get increasingly angry as time went on. I had dropped the issue while they kept making posts about it before eventually just removing the rule entirely.

I've never really liked Cap because he's always trolled, but while he was on Skype he's completely fine. We had fun playing iSketch and stuff, but then when he goes back to typing he's the biggest troll on the forums.

Jack on the other hand is the complete opposite. Nothing he says isn't serious. I recruited him to my guild a few months ago and we played a bit before he quit. That's when he started getting confrontational with every little thing. I kept wondering where the fuck the old Jack went because it didn't matter who or what he was agruging against he went full throttle and hated everyone it seemed.

As for the "these people who hated each other finally bonding together" comment. I had never been on skype before with these guys, but about a month ago I hopped on to play Pogo games with Waaaagh, Deathfire, CMG, Roschi, Raptor, False, and Muso. We played iSketch, SC2 Roulette(Change party leader after each game to choose a new random game we haven't played before), and even some Steam F2P games. This happened about a month and a half ago after the beta for WoW got bottlenecked. The new site didn't pop up until like last week. Also, when have I ever not liked False or Muso. I've loved muso ever since his FM4 jailor chats and the only reason I hated False was because of his stupid power rankings that I thought ruined the game. Also...Have you heard Muso's voice? It's pretty hard to hate that.

I don't know if there's anything else I missed, but if there is let me know I'll be sure to answer it.

@creed: Gratz, I hate being mafia and now you know why.

[Goremancer]

A humble request to all of you. Please be more dramatic like Nick said. It's very entertaining. It's like real life politics except it doesn't affect your daily life!

[TheWaaagh]

I can vouch for Muso's voice.

[Ubernox]

In case anyone's interested, it's https://playmaf.com

[Ubernox]

See, if this new forum wants to go airborne it'll need to rid itself of this drama, and disascosiate itself from all this gamethrowing, of which two thirds of the founding members were part of (Claw and False).

False was always "that guy who skyped about the FMs", and he was part of the reason that this FM ended so badly. Claw was similar, although they have since made the correct move and removed him from the founding team.


Muso, however, is blameless, and I wish him well in all of his future endeavours.

[Ubernox]

Also, Kromos and Waaagh are pretty cool bros too.

[Clawtrocity]

See, if this new forum wants to go airborne it'll need to rid itself of this drama, and disascosiate itself from all this gamethrowing, of which two thirds of the founding members were part of (Claw and False).

False was always "that guy who skyped about the FMs", and he was part of the reason that this FM ended so badly. Claw was similar, although they have since made the correct move and removed him from the founding team.


Muso, however, is blameless, and I wish him well in all of his future endeavours.

I'll agree that Muso is blameless, as is Waaagh and Yayap.

I was not a founding member. False and Muso started the site all on their own. I was added with Waaagh and yayap. I have no steak in this operation other than to have fun. I've never been on Skype during an FM prior to this one because I've always hated the constant talking(Not about FM, just the constant orange blerb that annoyed me every second). I can't say that False ever talked about FM the way you made it out to be. However, other than this incident where have I ever associated myself with drama? I've never heard that be said about me before after those 11 games of FM. Sure, I was cocky, dickish, angry, upset, or gleeful, but I don't remember being attached to drama.

Last night I had to deal with a bunch of shit that I eventually just ignored and went to bed. I slept on it and posted this to correct any flaws in story that had been forming.

This will not and is never going to be about SC2Mafia Vs. Playmaf. This is always going to be about SC2Mafia's FMs Vs. Playmaf's FMs. We are not the Pepsi to Rev's coke. We are the Mountain Dew to Rev's sprite which is the Sprite to Mafiascum's Coke which is the Coke to TeamLiquid's Pepsi. There are so many sites out there that do this same exact thing that another one isn't going to hurt rev's income like everyone says it will. If anything there will be promotional aspects for both forums if they decide to work together. People who plays SC2Mafia can come here and be part of the community and eventually play FM at Playmaf. The same thing will happen at Playmaf; Players will join our forum for FM and eventually move to SC2Mafia to play some starcraft Mafia. The end goal is that everyone is having fun playing Mafia regardless of the version.

SC2Mafia is steadily growing again ever since Rev found out about the script update. The community won't be dying any time soon and Rev won't be reduced to ramen and water. SC2Mafia finally made it back to the front page where it has belongs and after a long time at page 2 it's going to be sending more traffic here. Rev won't have the donations that he normally had, but he'll still have the traffic and revenue.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Well, the sad thing is you're not telling the truth, Claw. Here's an early log with Muso (speaking to Rev) expressing his intent to form a new mafia board if Ambient, Elixir, and Akira weren't demoted.

Spoiler : Muso's threat to Rev :

[4112012 95254 PM] Dark Revenant this is a serious issue
[4112012 95300 PM] Dark Revenant and it's a little of everyone's fault
[4112012 95307 PM] Dark Revenant muso, who has lots of FM clout
[4112012 95310 PM] Dark Revenant is basically saying
[4112012 95315 PM] Dark Revenant unless i permanently fire akira
[4112012 95323 PM] Dark Revenant and do something about ambient and elixir
[4112012 95326 PM] Dark Revenant and
[4112012 95327 PM] Dark Revenant fuck it let me quote
[4112012 95349 PM] Dark Revenant [50052 PM] Dark Revenant any particular reason that you hate me
[50102 PM] Dark Revenant you even removed ambient wat
[50203 PM] Abuso i am sick of the community not being listened to
[50257 PM] Abuso and the ridiculous choices for staff positions
[50309 PM] Abuso i can only conclude you actually don't give a fuck
[50318 PM] Dark Revenant if it makes you feel better
[50332 PM] Dark Revenant you were actually supposed to be removed with falsetruth
[50338 PM] Dark Revenant but I forgot at the time
[50347 PM] Dark Revenant Ambient reminded me earlier today but it seems you pushed the issue
[50354 PM] Abuso i quit 2 weeks ago dude
[50403 PM] Abuso then low and behold all my powers were returned
[50417 PM] Dark Revenant you never lost the powers
[50422 PM] Abuso yes i did
[50426 PM] Abuso the green emblew disappeared
[50436 PM] Dark Revenant huh, then oops removed them at some point and brought them back
[50448 PM] Abuso you are responsible for what your staff do
[50456 PM] Abuso which makes you responsible for taso
[50501 PM] Abuso which is a fair answer for hating you
[50517 PM] Dark Revenant that's one hell of a fallacy dude
[50525 PM] Dark Revenant I'm not their fucking parent
[50529 PM] Dark Revenant or their owner
[50531 PM] Dark Revenant they're not dogs
[50537 PM] Abuso lol
[50551 PM] Abuso you better take a business class before you think anymore about your career
[50605 PM] Dark Revenant I am responsible for some of it but you can't just unilaterally
[50611 PM] Dark Revenant pin the blame on me
[50624 PM] Dark Revenant Akira is hardworking and gets the job done when it comes to site moderation, btw
[50630 PM] Abuso unless you punish them, it shows you accept their actions
[50640 PM] Abuso lol
[50644 PM] Dark Revenant also akira WAS punished
[50645 PM] Abuso gets the job done
[50657 PM] Abuso carrying out the will of communist china style
[50716 PM] Dark Revenant we are pretty damn transparent most of the time
[50721 PM] Abuso bullshit
[50722 PM] Dark Revenant the only thing i restrict is talk of demotion
[50737 PM] Abuso there are countless threads and posts that have been deleted
[50745 PM] Abuso that express nothing more than opinions
[50750 PM] Dark Revenant like a picture of a diseased vagina
[50755 PM] Dark Revenant which threads are you referring to
[50757 PM] Abuso elixir's words fun chat propaganda
[50903 PM] Abuso and what do you know
[50905 PM] Abuso my thread is locked
[50907 PM] Abuso thankyou
[50911 PM] Dark Revenant because
[50912 PM] Dark Revenant what is there to discuss
[50917 PM] Dark Revenant hurr durr you quit
[50931 PM] Dark Revenant there is another thread that deals with it
[50937 PM] Abuso that you started
[50943 PM] Abuso you really are north korea
[50944 PM] Abuso wow
[50945 PM] Dark Revenant yes, and the threads about falsetruth
[51003 PM] Abuso no wonder you get no donations anymore
[51016 PM] Dark Revenant i dont get donations because there is no incentive
[51023 PM] Dark Revenant read up on nonprofits sometime
[51029 PM] Abuso are you seriously retarded
[51036 PM] Abuso i donated $10
[51039 PM] Dark Revenant im not nonprofit but the principle applies
[51041 PM] Abuso i could have donated $1
[51047 PM] Abuso what is the incentive for the extra $9
[51051 PM] Dark Revenant incentives cause people to donate in the first place
[51102 PM] Dark Revenant the amount is not affected as much
[51119 PM] Dark Revenant it just raises the rate of donations, not the size of them
[51131 PM] Abuso and you know this how
[51138 PM] Dark Revenant research
[51147 PM] Abuso you are so full of shit
[51157 PM] Dark Revenant i don't have a book of statistics on this shit but every nonprofit i studied
[51201 PM] Dark Revenant i know the details of
[51204 PM] Dark Revenant particularly their revenue
[51219 PM] Dark Revenant donations are a large portion of their revenue, and i look into how they handle donations
[51228 PM] Dark Revenant the successful ones have perks and bonuses for donors
[51229 PM] Abuso everybody here is fucking incompetent
[51232 PM] Dark Revenant often with many levels
[51239 PM] Abuso they can't even understand the regulations
[51334 PM] Abuso the only reason people come to COM is to play forum mafia
[51343 PM] Dark Revenant you dont say
[51346 PM] Abuso and 75% of them are in fun chat
[51350 PM] Abuso and we're all fucking pissed
[51400 PM] Abuso yet you employ people who can't even play fm
[51406 PM] Abuso to administrate our forums
[51412 PM] Abuso and delete our shit
[51420 PM] Dark Revenant fun chat
[51440 PM] Abuso yes because it's supposed to be fun unlike mod chat
[51452 PM] Abuso which became horrible once you started adding psychos in
[51506 PM] Dark Revenant delete your shit
[51511 PM] Dark Revenant most of that stuff is just moved
[51526 PM] Dark Revenant and the stuff that is deleted is mostly just shit started by Alt#24 of Archangel
[51527 PM] Abuso elixir fun chat propaganda deleted
[51605 PM] Abuso stop making excuses
[51613 PM] Abuso and just admit it
[51800 PM] Dark Revenant you literally think i'm fucking kim jong un
[51905 PM] Abuso unless you're actually going to do something about community's concerns
[51910 PM] Abuso there's no point us talking
[51937 PM] Dark Revenant the community is concerned about what, exactly
[51939 PM] Dark Revenant transparency
[51947 PM] Abuso abusive mods
[52005 PM] Dark Revenant and you consider 100% of the mods abusive
[52013 PM] Abuso elixir ambient taso
[52017 PM] Dark Revenant akira - yeah sure
[52020 PM] Dark Revenant ambient - uhhh, what
[52025 PM] Dark Revenant elxiir - DAFUQ
[52257 PM] Abuso ...
[52303 PM] Abuso this is not an argument
[52322 PM] Dark Revenant how the fuck is
[52326 PM] Dark Revenant elixir an abusive mod
[52334 PM] Abuso deleted fun chat propaganda
[52336 PM] Abuso = abuse
[52402 PM] Dark Revenant i cant even
[52404 PM] Dark Revenant find the thread
[52414 PM] Dark Revenant my search lets me search deleted threads, btw
[52418 PM] Dark Revenant i cant find anythign with that title
[52424 PM] Abuso not my problem
[52426 PM] Abuso it's there
[52436 PM] Dark Revenant you can at least
[52439 PM] Dark Revenant tell me what the title is
[52444 PM] Dark Revenant because it's clearly not
[52448 PM] Dark Revenant fun chat propaganda
[52449 PM] Abuso or i can complete this test that i have 52minutes to do
[52501 PM] Dark Revenant go ahead, i have to drive home right now
[52514 PM] Dark Revenant this conversation is not over; cu in ~60
[71710 PM] Dark Revenant yo
[71717 PM] Dark Revenant well that was more like 100 minutes
[72507 PM] Dark Revenant thanks for removing me from the chat btw
[72516 PM] Dark Revenant i dont have two streams of NEW MESSAGES now
[72523 PM] Dark Revenant and i dont have to be awkward by leaving on my own
[72625 PM] Abuso as fm is the only thing keeping us here
[72639 PM] Abuso the suggestion has been made to move it to a new forum where we are not under the current yoke
[72654 PM] Dark Revenant yoke
[72703 PM] Dark Revenant how exactly does the site limit the FMers
[72710 PM] Dark Revenant FM basically has admin access to the site
[72716 PM] Dark Revenant and none of the mods touch that shit
[72753 PM] Dark Revenant FM Game Master is literally a public admin-level user
[72800 PM] Abuso yeah but the same community has to deal with the failmods everywhere else on the forum
[72814 PM] Dark Revenant we might have
[72819 PM] Dark Revenant fucked up a couple times
[72827 PM] Dark Revenant and deleted a thread that didnt need deletion
[72853 PM] Dark Revenant but seriously, what the fuck is with the OH GOD REPRESSION
[72917 PM] Dark Revenant if you have a complaint with it, just make a public thread that makes some actual argumentation agaisnt it
[72927 PM] Dark Revenant talking about your complaints logically
[72949 PM] Dark Revenant and if anyone deletes a reasonable thread that isn't YOU ARE WORSE THAN HITLER or some shit, I'll punish them
[73017 PM] Abuso our concerns have been ignored
[73020 PM] Abuso for too long
[73028 PM] Dark Revenant I was not even aware
[73035 PM] Dark Revenant that you had major concerns
[73043 PM] Dark Revenant nobody thought to fucking talk to me
[73047 PM] Abuso there are like 10k threads against taso
[73052 PM] Abuso yet he is reinstated
[73102 PM] Dark Revenant most of those threads
[73121 PM] Dark Revenant are from obvious trolls like archangel and plasma
[73145 PM] Abuso incorrect
[73234 PM] Dark Revenant I didn't say ALL
[73245 PM] Dark Revenant But I'm sure you saw all those deleted troll threads
[73304 PM] Abuso tell us one reason why we should stay
[73308 PM] Abuso when the people we hate have all the power
[73310 PM] Abuso the fmers have none
[73320 PM] Abuso and we can all just go somewhere else and play fm on our own
[73800 PM] Abuso the silence says it all
[74632 PM] Dark Revenant the silence says i was afk
[74656 PM] Dark Revenant on topic get real
[74705 PM] Dark Revenant how the fuck is this oppressive
[74711 PM] Dark Revenant oh shit a couple deleted threads
[74718 PM] Dark Revenant nobody is perfect
[74729 PM] Abuso this has been the problem all along
[74733 PM] Abuso all you do is resist and argue
[74734 PM] Abuso and ignore
[74736 PM] Abuso we got no choice
[74744 PM] Dark Revenant what the fuck are you even suggesting I do
[74746 PM] Dark Revenant currently your argument is
[74756 PM] Dark Revenant hurr fire your whole staff
[74816 PM] Abuso you fired false
[74819 PM] Abuso you fucked up
[74832 PM] Abuso ambient has turned to fuck and only cares about reports
[74834 PM] Abuso you reinstate taso
[74837 PM] Abuso elixir has no clue wtf is going on
[74846 PM] Abuso philie and cap are off in the corner wanking
[74905 PM] Dark Revenant sounds incompetent when you put it that way
[74906 PM] Dark Revenant not exactly repressive
[74916 PM] Abuso the repressive part is
[74920 PM] Abuso everytime somebody says anything
[74925 PM] Abuso they get attacked deletedlocked
[74932 PM] Abuso and then you go, oh why nobody tell me huh
[74941 PM] Abuso we're fucking sick of it
[74941 PM] Dark Revenant so far
[74945 PM] Dark Revenant the deleted threads i've seen
[74950 PM] Dark Revenant mostly boil down to insults
[74955 PM] Dark Revenant can you
[75000 PM] Dark Revenant give me examples to look at
[75003 PM] Dark Revenant so i can fucking understand you
[75007 PM] Abuso no because i am already late for class
[75013 PM] Abuso because you didn't live upto your appointments
[75023 PM] Dark Revenant traffic and family dinner and chores
[75032 PM] Abuso incompetance is incompetance
[75040 PM] Dark Revenant o master of time and space
[75049 PM] Dark Revenant i humbly apologize that I am unable to bend the will of fate
[75055 PM] Abuso you do that shit in a business meeting and you will lose the contract
[75107 PM] Dark Revenant you dont plan business meetings
[75110 PM] Dark Revenant an hour before they happen, either
[75131 PM] Abuso i have to go
[75135 PM] Abuso unless conditions improve
[75140 PM] Abuso and the right people are given power
[75145 PM] Abuso we will move
[75210 PM] Abuso bye

[Clawtrocity]

I don't know how I missed the secret conversation between Rev and Muso. Also I don't see where Muso says anything about a site. I just skimmed it so it'd be nice for a highlight if he did, but he just seems upset about the Akira situation and if I'm not mistaken a lot more people than Muso were just as upset.

[Ubernox]

I understand Akira, but why Ambient and Elixir? I like Elixir.

[clementine]

What did Akira do? He has been nothing but friendly and helpful when I have quesitons! :]

[Omeleet]

Every time I enter these threads and read this filth I question two things.

My sanity and why I am still here. What a bunch of petty bullshit.

[Ubernox]

It's his legitimacy that has been under question. The older members don't like the way how this apparent newcomer suddenly popped up and got mod. Most of the other moderators had been here for a while and were respected by the community. This is one of the things that False's new forums promises to do away with.

Also, old Akira wasn't always as nice as he is now.

[Ubernox]

Every time I enter these threads and read this filth I question two things.

My sanity and why I am still here. What a bunch of petty bullshit.

Then what's keeping you here? Don't stick your nose into situations of which you know neither the history nor the context.

[creedkingsx]

What did Akira do? He has been nothing but friendly and helpful when I have quesitons! :]

Akira is a good guy, no matter how down he might seem at times, lol. It is just a long story of stuff and events and occurrings that happened that showed how cruel and devious people can get towards each other. Most of the smoke has cleared, and Akira is definitely staying, he couldn't get demoted, now, if he tried. xD

[Ubernox]

Akira is definitely staying, he couldn't get demoted, now, if he tried. xD

And that is one of the reasons some of the people of moved to this new forums, methinks. I, along with others, will never respect Akira as a member of superior rank, just as I will never cease to respect people such as Luna, who are excellent and deserving moderators.

[creedkingsx]

Every time I enter these threads and read this filth I question two things.

My sanity and why I am still here. What a bunch of petty bullshit.

Don't go, you so cool
Ignore the drama, it's just a bunch of bs like you said. :P

[creedkingsx]

And that is one of the reasons some of the people of moved to this new forums, methinks.

Akira does his job well, he moderates what needs to be moderated. I don't, honestly, understand why he received so much fire. It's not like he blatantly deleted every thread posted by the group of trolls. Just moved things to Circlejerk that needed to be moved, deleted things that were inappropriate, things like that. Sure, he comes off not so welcoming sometimes, but, like you said, he is different now and is, progressively, becoming more active with the community.

[Ubernox]

Heil Cappy.