M-FM VIII Gamethread

[Ubernox]

To the mafia: Disregard the opposition. The outlaws have in the past, and will continue to, side unreservedly with the militia. Only yesterday they were planning your destruction: pay no heed to these hypocrites.

As for Rihfok and Clementine: I have already said that I can preserve your lives tonight.

The militia have arrived now, and they shall attempt to lynch me. Vote for Escaho and let us be done with this.

[Ubernox]

WHAT IF MAFIA DOESNT CAR ABOUT A SOLO WIN ;D

I LOVE YOU TOO BRO

[Tasogare_Akira]

WHAT IF MAFIA DOESNT CAR ABOUT A SOLO WIN ;D

KILL HEEM ANNYWAY

[ReauxTzunami]

WHAT IF MAFIA DOESNT CAR ABOUT A SOLO WIN ;D

If you rather be their lapdogs and do their bidding while they take all the glory behind the scenes, go right ahead and be just that. My opinion has been voiced and I am sticking by it.

[Ubernox]

-vote Ubernox

I think it's in everyone's best interests to eliminate Ubernox. He wants everyone to die except the Mafia.

Firstly: No, I don't. While I don't care whether the police of Mafia win, I shall protect BOTH of them. As for the citizens, I have no reason to go against them, and would only be too happy to oblige them in their quest for victory.

Secondly, it is only natural for me to want the outlaws and militia dead. Because, you know, it happens to be my objective.

2 Mafia + 3 Tycoons voting versus 1 Militia + 2 Masons + 1 Police + 1 Outlaw + 1 Outlaw Citizen + 1 Militia Citizen = 5 v 7

These remind me a lot of the statistics you gave yesterday, which proved to be equally inaccurate: Even more so now that one more militia is dead and there is only one outlaw left.

Also, the police is voting with me. So is Mopin, who is the Militia Citizen. I think that leaves it at 7v7.

We can do it! Let's have only the Mafia win!

The mafia hav already said that they do not want a solo win. In fact, I believe your plans are in truth of. E purpose of making the militia and outlaws win, rather than the mafia.


Also, Kir, were you bussed last night?

[Ubernox]

The masons and outlaws are obviously getting desperate now. They shout for a mafia only win, even though that would not benefit you in any way, in an attempt to make a lynch on me. In the end though, if you lynch me, they'll finish you off.

[Ubernox]

If you rather be their lapdogs and do their bidding while they take all the glory behind the scenes, go right ahead and be just that. My opinion has been voiced and I am sticking by it.

Yet more meaningless rhetoric. Everyone knows that we couldn't have done this without the mafia. THEY made the difference on the Carolina lynch. THEY are the ones who have done the majority of the killing. THEY are our allies, and we would not turn our back on them.

[Ubernox]

KILL HEEM ANNYWAY

I'll be glad when you are freed, for you will then embrace the fact that you shall win with the mafia and us.

[ReauxTzunami]

Yet more meaningless rhetoric. Everyone knows that we couldn't have done this without the mafia. THEY made the difference on the Carolina lynch. THEY are the ones who have done the majority of the killing. THEY are our allies, and we would not turn our back on them.

Doesn't mean you can't finish it without them. If we kill ourselves off while you just sit there, you still would have the power to kill off the Mafia. Don't try and write off that it's impossible because they're "your allies". Yes they've made game-changing moments, yes they do the work for you, but you are STILL the power above them. It's like letting children run free for recess then calling them back because it's time to come inside. I wouldn't fall for your gifts and safety if there's a possibility of being double-crossed. Simple as that.

[Ubernox]

Ubernox has run into a problem: lynching me doesn't solve anything. It doesn't matter if the Citizens are Masons or not: they will win regardless of who wins.

False. As long as the citizens are masons, they will be bound to your will and they will have voting power. And that's a scary thing. Neither we, nor the mafia, are safe until the militia are defeated.

If the Mafia wants to win alone, they will strike tonight.

As both they and I have already said, they don't.

I am defenseless. Rihfok is defenseless. All they need to do is lynch Rihfok (getting rid of the Tycoon's alleis), shoot me, all Masons are Citizens, then use the Cits/Outlaws to lynch Goremancer. Shoot Ubernox, lynch remaining Tycoon.

This is wrong in a few ways. Firstly, you are not defenseless because you have a bulletproof vest. Rihfok is not defenseless because you can, and will, heal him.

If you don't lynch Escaho, and allow the Tycoons to do their work, the outlaws will block you because the last outlaw is an escort. They will block you, and lynch you in the following day. they will overpower you without our help.

If Ubernox doubts the ability of the Mafia to win alone, he is deluded. And I will help the Mafia because I would rather not see Ubernox win.

I do not doubt the mafias ability to turn against us, their allies and friends. All I know is that, if they did this, they militia and outlaws would turn against them. And no, you don't want to help the mafia because you want me to lose. You want to help them because you want to win, yourself.

-vote Rihfok

I like how one minute you want to start a train against Rihfok, and the next minute you expect him to side with you.

[Ubernox]

Doesn't mean you can't finish it without them. If we kill ourselves off while you just sit there, you still would have the power to kill off the Mafia. Don't try and write off that it's impossible because they're "your allies". Yes they've made game-changing moments, yes they do the work for you, but you are STILL the power above them. It's like letting children run free for recess then calling them back because it's time to come inside. I wouldn't fall for your gifts and safety if there's a possibility of being double-crossed. Simple as that.

Look; you can talk all you want. You can frame things in whatever warped and biased ways you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that you're trying to worm your way out of nigh-certain defeat, and I commend you for that. I just hope that no one is fooled by it.

[Ubernox]

Clementine, I can see you're observing the thread. If you please, would you vote for Escaho, your enemy?

[ReauxTzunami]

Look; you can talk all you want. You can frame things in whatever warped and biased ways you want to, but it doesn't change the fact that you're trying to worm your way out of nigh-certain defeat, and I commend you for that. I just hope that no one is fooled by it.

I'm just stating what I see while being almost blindly thrown into the battlezone. I shall voice my opinions and do what I can to change the game in whatever way possible. I could die today; I could miraculously survive until the end; I could win in an alliance, but I'm without the time to decipher and plan. I have to act and act now if I'm going to change any aspect of this game. I see the Mafia standing tall and taking down a force that has clear control over them, whether they will go through with it or not. It's just my judgement.

[Ubernox]

To all mafia, Tycoons, free citizens and the police: If you please, vote for Escaho.

-vote Escaho

[Escaho]

Clementine, I can see you're observing the thread. If you please, would you vote for Escaho, your enemy?

Funny who you view me as desperate, yet I'm not the one making super-long posts trying to reassure the Mafia that I am on their side.

We have already given clementine armor as a sign of good faith.

Dust has been recruited, as has Akira.

I have no armor. I cannot heal myself.

Meanwhile, the Tycoons sit at full capacity. Ubernox, if there is one thing I don't doubt, it is you potentially turning on the Mafia. It would not take much: with me dead, your have the Citizens at your disposal. You will try to convince everyone to kill me today, then goad the Mafia into shooting Tzunami, your only remaining enemy. Then you can lynch the Mafia and protect Rihfok the following 2 days (which would be absolutely hilarious, but I'm trying to stop that from happening).

[Escaho]

To all mafia, Tycoons, free citizens and the police: If you please, vote for Escaho.

-vote Escaho

You know, the more times you say it, it doesn't actually add more votes to the tally.

[Escaho]

Vote Tally

Escaho {4}: Ubernox, kiranearitachi, Rihfok, clementine
Ubernox {2}: Tasogare_Akira, Escaho

7 votes required to lynch.

To paraphrase Ubernox's desperate pleas yesterday: "Don't you want to make the game more exciting?!"

Come on now, let's go into this next night with all factions still alive. It's a free-for-all (and the Mafia/Tycoons already have the advantage)!

[Ubernox]

Escaho, I am loath to be on the opposite side of the battlefield to you.

Firstly, since we are the only faction at full power, it is much more logical to side with us.

If it makes anyone feel any better, we could start a train against Reaux. And if it makes anyone feel any better, we can merely block Reaux today, and lynch him tomorrow. It doesn't matter really: Whether it's Escaho or Reaux, our blocks and bus drives can ensure victory.



And no, I'm saying the opposite, brave and clever Escaho. The exciting thing would be what you are saying: to have the mafia attempt to win on their own. Our way, the way of mafia/tycoon victory, is the opposite of what you are staying.

[Ubernox]

I merely require my teammates and mopin to vote, and then we shall have victory.

[Ubernox]

Come on now, let's go into this next night with all factions still alive. It's a free-for-all (and the Mafia/Tycoons already have the advantage)!

Ah, but that would surely mean defeat for us. I have no doubt that you would think up some kind of scheme, some ingenious plan that would thwart us.

[ReauxTzunami]

Escaho, I am loath to be on the opposite side of the battlefield to you.

Firstly, since we are the only faction at full power, it is much more logical to side with us.

If it makes anyone feel any better, we could start a train against Reaux. And if it makes anyone feel any better, we can merely block Reaux today, and lynch him tomorrow. It doesn't matter really: Whether it's Escaho or Reaux, our blocks and bus drives can ensure victory.



And no, I'm saying the opposite, brave and clever Escaho. The exciting thing would be what you are saying: to have the mafia attempt to win on their own. Our way, the way of mafia/tycoon victory, is the opposite of what you are staying.

And these are the reasons I question the fact you won't turn on your scapegoats. You won't turn on the citizens, you need them for votes. If Escaho dies first, the win is yours, period. The only secondary outcome is if the Tycoons are taken from their throne and placed at the same level as everyone else. Let them feel the fear and pain that they've caused everyone else.

[Escaho]

Escaho, I am loath to be on the opposite side of the battlefield to you.

Yes, if only we were working the Day chat together, we would be unstoppable! =p

Firstly, since we are the only faction at full power, it is much more logical to side with us.

But if you are lynched, you will not be at full power. You will be on par with the Mafia (they would technically be more powerful than you, since they can kill) and it leaves the door open.

If it makes anyone feel any better, we could start a train against Reaux. And if it makes anyone feel any better, we can merely block Reaux today, and lynch him tomorrow. It doesn't matter really: Whether it's Escaho or Reaux, our blocks and bus drives can ensure victory.

Well, at the very least, I would prefer not to be lynched today to leave the game so soon. I do feel that you and I are providing a good spectacle during the day and eliminating me will make tomorrow ever so boring.

And no, I'm saying the opposite, brave and clever Escaho. The exciting thing would be what you are saying: to have the mafia attempt to win on their own. Our way, the way of mafia/tycoon victory, is the opposite of what you are staying.

Your flattery is flattering, but certainly too much. If the Mafia attempt to overthrow you, it must be tonight. Would they ever be so bold? If kira actually attempted to destroy you and win by themselves, I would be very impressed.

[Ubernox]

Indeed, it would be quite the drama. But in all fairness, Lynching me just so that we would we equal when we won would be such a backward, counterproductive feat as tone almost comical.

[Escaho]

Indeed, it would be quite the drama. But in all fairness, Lynching me just so that we would we equal when we won would be such a backward, counterproductive feat as tone almost comical.

I enjoy comical.

Dust, Mopin, clementine, Rihfok, Tzunami, care to make this game exciting? Or shall the Citizens remain in the shadows just to get their Survivor win?

[Ubernox]

Okay Escaho, maybe I will make things interesting. MAYBE. And in no way that has been mentioned, or even CONCIEVED, thus far. Let the speculation begin.

[Escaho]

Okay Escaho, maybe I will make things interesting. MAYBE. And in no way that has been mentioned, or even CONCIEVED, thus far. Let the speculation begin.

To be honest, I've been wondering how long it would take you to witch the mafia into killing some targets. Was Dust given a gun? It'd be hilarious if you witched Dust onto me. Lol

[ReauxTzunami]

Wait, so where is this game headed? The citizens aren't getting a free ride anymore? This sounds better then anything I expected.

[Ubernox]

The citizens can't help BUT get a smooth side now. Especially Mopin.

[Escaho]

The citizens can't help BUT get a smooth side now. Especially Mopin.

Shall we kill all Citizens? LOL (Jk)

[ReauxTzunami]

Shall we kill all Citizens? LOL (Jk)

That seems a bit extreme.. though, I figure they should fight for survival just as much as we do.

[Escaho]

Okay Escaho, maybe I will make things interesting. MAYBE. And in no way that has been mentioned, or even CONCIEVED, thus far. Let the speculation begin.

Do I still get lynched? Because I would rather avoid that to see how this game becomes interesting.

[Ubernox]

Oh, I didn't know that dead people were forbidden from viewing the thread. In fact, I heard they gained access to the night chat and could partake in the dead chat.

[Escaho]

Oh, I didn't know that dead people were forbidden from viewing the thread. In fact, I heard they gained access to the night chat and could partake in the dead chat.

Yeah, I'd like to be able to still enjoy what happens and not be relegated to seeing it after the fact.

What if we lynched a mafia today? Would that be interesting enough?

[Ubernox]

You see, I'm not entirely convinced of your objectivity; of your neutrality. You are caught off balance; I have the advantage in this dance on the head of a pin. I may never have this chance again, and I trust that, if I do not push my advantage, the decision will come back and stab me in the back. For, undoubtedly, this is now a guerilla war of dirty tactics and mad scrambles for supremacy.

[ReauxTzunami]

But who will be superior? Which side is going to take the crown? It would be amazing if the civilians rebelled and killed us all.. but that's just risky business.

[Ubernox]

They would have to win through votes...

[ReauxTzunami]

Well, think about it. If we're off slaughtering each other while they enjoy nap time and their little juice boxes, sure enough we'll end up with 1 player per faction against their 4.

[Escaho]

You see, I'm not entirely convinced of your objectivity; of your neutrality. You are caught off balance; I have the advantage in this dance on the head of a pin. I may never have this chance again, and I trust that, if I do not push my advantage, the decision will come back and stab me in the back. For, undoubtedly, this is now a guerilla war of dirty tactics and mad scrambles for supremacy.

One thing is for sure: I am not caught off balance. I know exactly where I stand.

The question becomes: are you prepared to risk dying to the mafia tonight? If you are wasting your bribe action on the Outlaw, the Mafia have a free shot at your Bus Driver. One thing is for certain: if I am lynched and one of the Tycoons dies tonight (and then the Outlaw/Mafias band together with the Citizens), you very well could still lose this game.

[Escaho]

If a Mafia is lynched and the Outlaw is role-blocked, it is impossible for you to lose, Ubernox. I would much rather see an interesting play at a solo-win by the Tycoons than this lackluster ending.

[Ubernox]

No. You would recruit Mopin or clementine/ajkei, gaining you the majority. You would the. Lynch, and lynch, and lynch until we were dead. You would win Rihfok over, and we'd lose.

[Mopin]

I guess I'm still going for the survivor win here. But I agree with Esacho in that it would be much better in having a more interesting ending to this game.

So I shall -Vote Ubernox in the hope that he'll be lynched by the end of the day, which at the moment, I highly doubt.

If no one else helps however, I'll just go back to ending this game as soon as possible by possibly hammering Esacho at the end of the day. Such a shame this game was 'ruined' by lurkers.

[Escaho]

No. You would recruit Mopin or clementine/ajkei, gaining you the majority. You would the. Lynch, and lynch, and lynch until we were dead. You would win Rihfok over, and we'd lose.

I don't even know who the freakin' Mafia *are*. Also, there is a 99% chance I'm dead tonight if not lynched.

[Escaho]

Vote Tally

Escaho {4}: Ubernox, kiranearitachi, Rihfok, clementine
Ubernox {3}: Tasogare_Akira, Escaho, Mopin

7 votes required to lynch.

[clementine]

I guess I'm still going for the survivor win here. But I agree with Esacho in that it would be much better in having a more interesting ending to this game.

So I shall -Vote Ubernox in the hope that he'll be lynched by the end of the day, which at the moment, I highly doubt.

If no one else helps however, I'll just go back to ending this game as soon as possible by possibly hammering Esacho at the end of the day. Such a shame this game was 'ruined' by lurkers.

If I have a gun, I'm shooting a citizen tonight. I was not recruited, might as well take it out on you guys for excluding me from masons. So far Mopin is the lead candidate for being shot.

[Escaho]

If I have a gun, I'm shooting a citizen tonight. I was not recruited, might as well take it out on you guys for excluding me from masons. So far Mopin is the lead candidate for being shot.

You're on our list to be recruited for tonight. The only reason I postponed it by one night was because you purposely voted against us and took out Carolina instead of voting for Goremancer after I assured you that you would be recruited.

You don't have any right to be angry about not being recruited. You opposed us after I told you you would be recruited. We gave you a vest for safety.

[Escaho]

If I have a gun, I'm shooting a citizen tonight. I was not recruited, might as well take it out on you guys for excluding me from masons. So far Mopin is the lead candidate for being shot.

And lol: why would Mopin be the lead candidate for being shot? Mind explaining that one?

[Mopin]

If I have a gun, I'm shooting a citizen tonight. I was not recruited, might as well take it out on you guys for excluding me from masons. So far Mopin is the lead candidate for being shot.

Damn you're evil...

Though I wouldn't blame the masons for you not being recruited, please do remember that the Tycoons have a bus driver, and you were a prime candidate to be switched. Also I'm not even with them, so meh.

[Ubernox]

No. I am willing to maybe go out of my way and vote for someone other than Escaho to facilitate your "exciting" ending. But not if you are wanting to lynch me. Mopin, I am disappointed. I made it clear that my plans were built to oblige and benefit you.

I remind you that none of my teammates have voted yet, and we could still very well hammer you, Escaho. I don't like your votes on me.

[clementine]

You're on our list to be recruited for tonight. The only reason I postponed it by one night was because you purposely voted against us and took out Carolina instead of voting for Goremancer after I assured you that you would be recruited.

You don't have any right to be angry about not being recruited. You opposed us after I told you you would be recruited. We gave you a vest for safety.

I voted Carolina yesterday because you guys told me that you would not recruit me because you thought I was the godfather.

The true question is: Do you think I have a gun?

[Escaho]

No. I am willing to maybe go out of my way and vote for someone other than Escaho to facilitate your "exciting" ending. But not if you are wanting to lynch me. Mopin, I am disappointed. I made it clear that my plans were built to oblige and benefit you.

I remind you that none of my teammates have voted yet, and we could still very well hammer you, Escaho. I don't like your votes on me.

Who do you have in mind as my replacement?