AFKers

[Jowa]

This is a QQ thread you say? Well that's really odd. Over 60% of people thinks something should be done about this. QQ or not, this should be dealt with.

Why would you object to leaving AFKers in games? The only reason I can think of is that you are an AFKer yourself.

[Anguss]

I like to get doctor and then rage quit.... :P

[Jowa]

Everyone does that. They say role quit is a "crime" but it happens way too often for people to be punished for it.

[Blazer]

I like to get doctor and then rage quit.... :P

lololol.

This is a QQ thread you say? Well that's really odd. Over 60% of people thinks something should be done about this. QQ or not, this should be dealt with.

Why would you object to leaving AFKers in games? The only reason I can think of is that you are an AFKer yourself.

Because it happens. Give me a way that is going to be more effective than detrimental. (and has to be implementable too)

[Jowa]

Idk anything about sc2 maps but I do know how to program. Implementing this in a program would be an amateur job.

[Jowa]

How about this, if it's night 4 and the person hasn't done anything (not even made a name), make them leave the game. That should be a good start.

[Blazer]

How about this, if it's night 4 and the person hasn't done anything (not even made a name), make them leave the game. That should be a good start.

no. thats one strategy to stay alive. pretend afk

[Jowa]

Pretending to be afk, and being afk are different? I don't see the difference between "pretending" to be afk and being afk all game.

Also, it would give you a warning like (click or you will be kicked in one day). If your "pretending" to be afk you'll still be alive anyways.

[Anguss]

Pretending to be afk, and being afk are different? I don't see the difference between "pretending" to be afk and being afk all game. Also, it would give you a warning like (click or you will be kicked in one day). If your "pretending" to be afk you'll still be alive anyways.

Jowa likes being an executioner that gets converted to Cultist after he already lynched his target.

[Jowa]

That happened that one game! And I got extra points winning both of them.

[fred]

Crime: Game-Throwing
This is intentionally playing to lose. An example of this is a Mafioso giving out the names of his fellow Mafia to the town during his trial.


Technically, you can class afking as game-throwing. It can be reported, if it is proven. AFKers ruin the integrity of the game and thus we may punish them.

[Blazer]

Crime: Game-Throwing
This is intentionally playing to lose. An example of this is a Mafioso giving out the names of his fellow Mafia to the town during his trial.


Technically, you can class afking as game-throwing. It can be reported, if it is proven. AFKers ruin the integrity of the game and thus we may punish them.

If you can find them ^^
Good luck. (Not saying that I'm on the afkers side or anything this whole time, it's just harder to tell if really afk or not. mods can do it better if they are personally in the game.)

[Jowa]

Crime: Game-Throwing
This is intentionally playing to lose. An example of this is a Mafioso giving out the names of his fellow Mafia to the town during his trial.


Technically, you can class afking as game-throwing. It can be reported, if it is proven. AFKers ruin the integrity of the game and thus we may punish them.

Thank you. That is what I wanted to hear.

[Archangel]

I need to play to afk for points, fuck off, afking should be allowed!

[Tasogare_Akira]

Here's the thing: AFK players are generally not punishable, unless there are a TON of replays. One game might be extenuating circumstances. However, we are able to kick from the game, freely, at our discretion, if we consider a person AFK. Having a person AFK really fucks with gameplay later on, so we do our best to keep them out of the games we play in.

[Blazer]

Here's the thing: AFK players are generally not punishable, unless there are a TON of replays. One game might be extenuating circumstances. However, we are able to kick from the game, freely, at our discretion, if we consider a person AFK. Having a person AFK really fucks with gameplay later on, so we do our best to keep them out of the games we play in.

this

[Jowa]

Here's the thing: AFK players are generally not punishable, unless there are a TON of replays. One game might be extenuating circumstances. However, we are able to kick from the game, freely, at our discretion, if we consider a person AFK. Having a person AFK really fucks with gameplay later on, so we do our best to keep them out of the games we play in.

Well that's nice of you. The key words in this post is " YOU " can kick freely at your discretion. Us, normal players, can't do that sort of thing. We don't have the power you guys do.

You also said "AFK really fucks with the gameplay". Does that not mean griefing or game throwing? Then why don't you take some sort of action? Why can't it at least be low severity?

[Saneshelf]

Suggested punishment is already in place: Those AFKers are less likely to win, and therefore get less points. They're slightly better players than role-quitters, and since the role-quitters do not get much of a punishment, neither should AFKers.

[Rihfok]

Suggested punishment is already in place: Those AFKers are less likely to win, and therefore get less points. They're slightly better players than role-quitters, and since the role-quitters do not get much of a punishment, neither should AFKers.

I'm not sure, but I think you lose points if you leave the game very early.

[Saneshelf]

You do, but role-quitting is worse than AFKing, so it shakes out.

[Jowa]

You do, but role-quitting is worse than AFKing, so it shakes out.

I would have to strongly disagree.

If someone role quits, you know exactly who you lost and it doesn't screw up with the game play as much.

If someone AFK's, it's exactly like role quitting but much worse. It loses a vote for the town/mafia that they need to win the game. They also gain points for not doing anything (unlike role quitting). And if the GF goes AFK, then the mafia lose 3-5 nights of killing AND the GF.

[Anguss]

I would have to strongly disagree.

If someone role quits, you know exactly who you lost and it doesn't screw up with the game play as much.

If someone AFK's, it's exactly like role quitting but much worse. It loses a vote for the town/mafia that they need to win the game. They also gain points for not doing anything (unlike role quitting). And if the GF goes AFK, then the mafia lose 3-5 nights of killing AND the GF.

I go AFK whenever I see Jowa in the game. :P

[Jowa]

I go AFK whenever I see Jowa in the game. :P

And i report you every time i see you in a game. Soon, it'll catch up to you.

[McKinley]

I like AFKing as Jester though... It works 80% of the time for me.

[Jowa]

I like AFKing as Jester though... It works 80% of the time for me.

Oh? So you would say going AFK with jester is valid. Does that mean AFKing for points is valid too? Does that mean you should get in a party of 5 and just AFK 100 games. Does that mean, you can just set a bot to get in a game and leave when it's over so you get free points is also valid? I bet that would be an easy bot to make.

[McKinley]

Going AFK as a Jester, and going AFK because you grief or just simply want points, is a completely different argument. The role of a Jester is to get lynched, how and when and why doesn't honestly matter as long as the individual is lynched. People hate trolling, yet when a Jester trolls and gets lynched it's considered pro-playing and a good sport. When one decieves everyone as a Jester, lies, and completely bullshits everyone, it's accepted as a Jester. Almost anything that would be considered a ban-worthy offense, is accepted when you're a Jester. Trying to argue that it's the same as a bot or going into a party for points, is just not valid. While people who merely join game after game and go AFK just because they want points is annoying, and can be kicked for it, there are a lot of situations where people who go AFK have a legitimate RL reason for it, and RL>Sc2. Or, they're like me, and like to do the AFK Jester.

Should they be kicked for it? Yes. Punished? Only if you can prove someone literally AFKs in almost every game they play, which honestly I haven't seen such an individual myself as of yet.

[Duzero]

And i report you every time i see you in a game. Soon, it'll catch up to you.

You forgot to capitalize the i's, (eyes?, ice?)

[Jowa]

Going AFK as a Jester, and going AFK because you grief or just simply want points, is a completely different argument. The role of a Jester is to get lynched, how and when and why doesn't honestly matter as long as the individual is lynched. People hate trolling, yet when a Jester trolls and gets lynched it's considered pro-playing and a good sport. When one decieves everyone as a Jester, lies, and completely bullshits everyone, it's accepted as a Jester. Almost anything that would be considered a ban-worthy offense, is accepted when you're a Jester. Trying to argue that it's the same as a bot or going into a party for points, is just not valid. While people who merely join game after game and go AFK just because they want points is annoying, and can be kicked for it, there are a lot of situations where people who go AFK have a legitimate RL reason for it, and RL>Sc2. Or, they're like me, and like to do the AFK Jester.

Should they be kicked for it? Yes. Punished? Only if you can prove someone literally AFKs in almost every game they play, which honestly I haven't seen such an individual myself as of yet.

Once again, you forgot that in most games, people can't kick. Only special people can kick.

Might I add, I've had AFKers throw as many games as gamethrower's do. I've only had like 4-5 people gamethrow and I know for a fact I've lost 3 games because town AFK 3v1 and don't vote to lynch. I think it's been 4. That isn't including the times that people AFK as invest/GF and it screws up the game. Are you telling me, throwing the game when your AFK isn't gamethrowing? Can I not report for that?


*Edit*

In your words "Almost anything that would be considered a ban-worthy offense, is accepted when you're a Jester." Therefore, jesters don't even count for this thread.

"AFK have a legitimate RL reason for it, and RL>Sc2." If they are going to leave, they should leave and quit the game. If they AFK and throw the game because of it, they still should be reported. In an actual SC2 game, you don't just go AFK because you need to pee...

*End Edit*

[Jowa]

You forgot to capitalize the i's, (eyes?, ice?)

Wow, you are correct.

[Duzero]

Wow, you are correct.

Spelling champion of polk high.

[Jowa]

So I hear Rev is trying to put some AFK detection in the game. I LOVE HIM!

[creedkingsx]

So I hear Rev is trying to put some AFK detection in the game. I LOVE HIM!

It wasn't necessarily that. Akira said he tried to, but it didn't work well.
I don't know if he is still trying to, but just clarifying

[Necroplant]

I have learned that mafia is one of those games you shouldn't be watching something enthralling on the side while playing. You'll be like "Round 3: I'm so fucked...I missed so many rounds."

[Duzero]

I have learned that mafia is one of those games you shouldn't be watching something enthralling on the side while playing. You'll be like "Round 3: I'm so fucked...I missed so many rounds."

Go all out day 1, if you die you can watch your movie. If you survive you have a good chance of winning.

[The Nightbringer]

I think people that go afk are just as bad as people gamethrowing. They don't vote the obvious scum, they get lynched for not voting obvious scum, they use up player slots and sometimes get important roles.

[SayGen]

Point Farmers/AFKers should be punished esp. the repeat offenders.
When it's obvious that they are AFKing I say cut em down 2-5K points.

[Jowa]

I haven't been in a game lately where AFKers have legitly screwed up the game. I have had some games that might have gone much differently, but none that were noticably gamethrowing.

[Blazer]

I haven't been in a game lately where AFKers have legitly screwed up the game. I have had some games that might have gone much differently, but none that were noticably gamethrowing.

Cool. So too much work isnt really necessary when it's not a constant issue ^^
glad you haven't been having issues

[SayGen]

I say just reverse point gains.

IE: get caught AFKing just sub points from their bank.
AFKers are usualyl just point farmers anyways.