Different Setups and Setup Suggestions

[Jowa]

I love setting up a game! There's nothing better than to know everyone in the game is using me awesome save! I've learned some fun difference setup's that aren't much different from the normal. It would be cool if you posted your setup's here too!


The set up i have right now includes:
1 gf, 1 adv mafia, 1 random mafia, 1 sheriff, 1 invest, 1 doc, 2 basic town, 2 adv town, 2 random town, 1 evil random neut, 1 non killing basic neut, and 1 non killing adv neut.

This save works pretty well. I never have complaints using it and it usually turns out to be a good game.

I use to have a save with 1 vet/unlimited alerts and a witch. This way, the vet can't go on alert every night for the sake of the witch killing every1 the witch feels like. I love playing this save. It makes me laugh and just fun!


I've seen some pretty bad saves and here is some advice I have:
1.) Make it so that the town has a decent chance to win. If there is 8 town vs 7 non town, on day 2 the town is probably already losing!
2.) If people drop, change the game accordingly. Make sure taking out a role doesn't unbalance your original save.
3.) Don't make any role completely useless. Cit, granted is almost useless, but don't make the gf immune to detection and lookout unable to see the gf killing a target.
4.) Organize the list so that the mafia/town/neut are together. There's nothing more annoying than looking at a save with them broken up.

Feel free to add on to, or argue against the saves or advice.

[GriM-DeMoN]

Role List
Serial Killer(Kills Roleblockers,Immune at night)
Sheriff (Doesn't detect Arsonist)
Doctor (Prevents cult from convertion,Knows if target is attacked and knows if the cult attempt to convert )
Investigator
Jailor(3 Kills)
Mason Leader (4 Recruits)
Mason(Replaces Mason Leader)
Adv town
Basic town(Exclude Support)
Basic town(Exclude Support)
Random Town(Exclude Citizens)
Cultist(Exclude from random,2 Nights between conversions and immunity prevents conversion.
Random any(Exclude Killing,Mafia,Town)
Random Any
Arsonist(Target knows he is doused,Immune at night,Attacks ignore immunity/Doctor Healing)


Role Options
Mayor (Votes count as 3 and keeps extra votes in cult.
Veteran(Excluded from Randoms)
Consigliere(Replaces Godfather and detects exact role.
Consort(Immune to role blocking)
Mayor(3 Votes can be healed doesn't lose extra votes in cult)
Executioner (target is always town -off) (Immune at Night-On)
Must Survive to the end is on also

Game starts at day no lynch(For jailor.)
I know there's No Mafia but there is no need for Mafia.
this is actualy really Fun.

[GriM-DeMoN]

Unknown Game
Role List
Godfather(Immune at night,Cannot be rolebocked,Not immune to Detection,Can kill without a Mafioso
Janitor(3 Cleans)
Basic Mafia(Exclude Mafioso)
Mayor(3 Votes, Can be Healed)
Sheriff
Coroner(Discovers everything)
Adv Town
Basic Town(Exclude Citizens)
Basic Town
Random Town(Exclude Citizens)
Random Town
Random Town
Random Neutral(Exclude Non Killings)
Random Any(Exclude Mafia,Killing,Town)
Random Any

Role Options
Consigliere - Becomes Godfather,Detects exact role
Consort - Cannot be roleblocked,Knows if roleblock fails

Cultist - Exclude From Randoms
Mason Leader - Exclude From Randoms
Bodyguard - Ignores immunity
Arsonist - Target knows he is doused, Immune at night, Attacks ignore Immunity/Doctor healing
Serial Killer - Kills Roleblockers, Immune at night

[GriM-DeMoN]

Mafioso
Disguister(Becomes Mafioso, Does not clean targets role)
Consort(Becomes Mafioso)
Serial Killer(Immune at night, Wins ties over arsonist, Kills roleblockers)
Arsonist(immune at night,Target knows he is doused,attacks ignore doctor/immunity)
Witch( Victim knows he is controlled, Can cause self targets)
Random Neutral(Exclude Killing)
Random Neutral
Random Neutral
Survivor(3 Vests)
Amnesiac( Can become anything,New Role is reveled to Town)
Veteran(Ignores immunity,as many alerts as he wants)
Veteran
Mayor(3 Votes)
Jailor(2 Executions)

This is a save that has 4 Town members.
There op they must kill the Mafia the best they can. If theres a troll Jailor or leaver Veterans or Mayor reveles day 1. you have a chance to lose.
Mafia must kill all the Town/sK/Arsonist neutrals like Survivors/Executioners will probley side with Mafia.
Amnesiac might become Serial Killer.
Arsonist has to stay quiet he is the person everyone usley wants to lynch.
Serial Killer needs to just kill everyone.

[creedkingsx]

1x Godfather
3x Serial Killer
3x Arsonist
2x Witch
2x Veteran
4x Vigilate
Arson/serial Killer are not invulnerable.
Veteran is limited to 3 alerts.
Any other options related to the roles are up to you, but these 2 are key balancing factors.
The person who made this save said it usually comes to arsonists versus Serial Killers, but I saw the town win, without any gamethrowing or illegal actions occuring

[Gingerape]

Here's my setup, no immunities.

Godfather
Mafioso
Adv. Mafia
Random Mafia
Serial Killer
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Survivor
Jester
Executioner
Cultist
Amnesiac
Basic Neutral
Adv. Neutral
Random Neutral

Probrem Town?

[Rihfok]

Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Jailor
Basic Town
Advanced Town
Random Town
Random Town
Serial Killer
Random Neutral
Random Neutral
Godfather
Advanced Mafia
Random Mafia
Advanced Any (Mafia Excluded)

It gets used 40% of the games when I'm in because I'm famous.
Nah, I'm just the first to say that I have save.
ALWAYS.

[Sinclair]

Godfather - Invulnerable at night, Cannot be role-blocked, Immune to detection, kill without Mafioso
Basic Mafia - Exclude Killing roles
Advanced Mafia - No options checked
Sheriff - Cannot detect Cult
Investigator - Does not detect exact role
Doctor - Knows if target is attacked, prevents conversion, knows if converted
Jailor - 2 executions
Vigilante - 2 kills
Basic Town - Exclude Citizens
Basic Town - Exclude Citizens
Advanced Town - Exclude Support (gets rid of the chance of a second jailor, coroner, etc)
Random Town - Exclude Citizens (here is where the potential second jailor might come in to play, I hate 2 jailors...)
Advanced Neutral - Exclude Killing roles
Random Neutral - Exclude non-killing roles (this is a twist)


This build is always fun and leads to interesting games. I've had many compliments on the build as well as the optional (Town/Neutral/Mafia is OP!)

I've run this in this simulator over 1000 times and Mafia wins about 51% Town is 33% and Neutral is rest, but I've seen about a 50/50 win with this build in game. It's really interesting.

[Blazer]

Here's my setup, no immunities.

Godfather
Mafioso
Adv. Mafia
Random Mafia

Serial Killer
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Survivor
Jester
Executioner
Cultist
Amnesiac
Basic Neutral
Adv. Neutral
Random Neutral

Probrem Town?

Lul

[Jowa]

You guys are crazy!!! Wow you like killing!

[Lazers]

Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Mafioso
Disguiser
Disguiser
Witch
Witch
Arsonist

[Jowa]

Guys, i'm not looking for troll set ups, get real!

[biersteker]

I have played a shitload off games with 3 maf/1sk/2random/9 town, but my setup is a bit different. (its not really my setup, i saved it from CmG or Dalek, i really dont know anymore.


My usual setup:
GF.
Random maf
Adv Maf.

Cultist (every other night convert)
Mason Leader
Sherrif
Jailor
Investigator
Doc
Basic Town
Random Town
Random Town
Adv Town
Witch
Random Neutral


Basic town (include citi, for mason leader)
Random Neutral (Exclude killing roles)
Witch (Target knows he is witched)

[Jowa]

Cult/Mafia Save:

Godfather
Adv mafia
Rand mafia (exclude killing)
Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Citizen
Mason Leader
Basic town
Adv town
Adv town
Random town
Random Neutral (exclude killing)
Random Neutral (exclude killing)
Cultist (no wait between conversions / excluded from randoms)

[Jowa]

Mafia/Witch Save:

Godfather
Adv Mafia
Random Mafia (exclude killing)
Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Lookout
Veteran (Unlimited alerts / Excluded from randoms)
Basic town
Adv town
Adv town
Adv town
Random Neutral
Random Netural
Witch (Target knows he/she is controlled = OFF )

[Blazer]

Setup #1
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
JESTER
Veteran

[Jowa]

Why post something at all if it's going to be incorrect?

[Blazer]

Why post something at all if it's going to be incorrect?

Who are you talking to? :o

This is a good basic setup right here.

Godfather
Adv Maf
Bas Maf
Sk
Sheriff
Doctor
Invest
random town
random town
random town
random town
benign neutral
Rand Any (exclude killing roles)

[Jowa]

Blazer, that is the same setup everyone uses. I HATE IT! ( no offense ) And i'm talking about the 14 jesters and a vet. The game wont even allow that save to be played.

[Blazer]

Blazer, that is the same setup everyone uses. I HATE IT! ( no offense ) And i'm talking about the 14 jesters and a vet. The game wont even allow that save to be played.

You asked for setups, so i gave the most basic one i could think of :P

[Archangel]

good setups

[GriM-DeMoN]

Anyone like my Setups

[Guardian]

Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Doctor
Jailor ( 2 Kills )
Vigilante ( 2 Kills )
Vigilante ( 2 Kills )
Adv Town
Adv Town
Basic Town
Basic Town


Godfather (Totally Immune, can kill w/o mafioso)
Consiglere ( Replace GF, get exact role )
Consort ( Immune to RB )
Framer (Immune to detection)


Options for other roles:
Mayor: 3 Votes, can be healed
Detective + Lookout: can track immune roles
Veteran : (excluded from randoms)

You can adjust other options as you wish.

[Unknown User]

Here's my setup, no immunities.

Godfather
Mafioso
Adv. Mafia
Random Mafia
Serial Killer
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Survivor
Jester
Executioner
Cultist
Amnesiac
Basic Neutral
Adv. Neutral
Random Neutral

Probrem Town?

This was actually quite fun

[Jowa]

I do like the idea of 4 mafia. It makes everyone scared of the setup! But, I've had games where the town did nothing wrong. They just coudln't find anyone and they lost.

Maybe i'll try it again! I think I had neutrals.

[Jowa]

Any more that god missed?

[Unknown User]

My Current Set-up:

Mafia:
Godfather - Immune to roleblock, Immune to investigation, Not immune to attacks.
Adv. Mafia
Random Mafia

Town:
Sheriff - Detect all
Sheriff - Detect all
Doctor
Bodyguard
Vigilante - 3 shots
Bus Driver
Random Town - Exclude citizens, Exclude killing
Random Town - Exclude citizens, Exclude killing

Neutral
Arsonist - Target knows they are doused, Not immune to attacks
Arsonist - Target knows they are doused, Not immune to attacks
Witch - Target does not know he is controlled
Jester

[Dean Newton]

Godfather -- Immune, can kill without Mafioso, invul at night to kills or RB
Random Maf -- Excludes killing roles (to avoid Mafioso)
Adv. Maf
Sheriff -- Can detect anyone bad (except those immune)
Doc -- Can prevent conversions; knows if this happened
Bus
Jailor -- 2 executions
Cit -- jacket, wins ties
Escort
Adv. Town
Random Town
Random Town
Random Any -- Excludes maf and killing
Random Neut. -- Excludes benign
Jester
Amnes. -- Can become anything except killing roles; new role not revealed

Other important settings:

Witch: Target does not know they are controlled
Consig: Detects exact role
Framer: Immune to detection
Exec: Target is always town, becomes jester upon failure, not invul at night
Arson: Target does not know they are doused; ignores night immunity; invul at night

Death descriptions, Trial, last will, etc.

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A LOT of times when I set this up, people qq in the lobby that it's pro-town. Then after the first couple of days, the qq stops. Why? (1) That random neutral plays havoc with town. At best, it'll be a witch, but even then, a witch can wreck things when you don't know you're being controlled. (2) Settings are almost as important as the roles. The maf is guaranteed to not start with a Mafioso, meaning two useful roles. And if they're unlucky enough to get stuck with the framer, well, the framer is immune to detection. (3) No guaranteed invest means less info for town. If the sheriff goes down, you're in trouble. (4) The amnesiac is a LOT more pro-maf than some newcomers realize. It ain't like the survivor, who usually breaks for town unless it's clear that the town is going to lose.

If a couple people drop, I cut a random town, the jester, and the random any, in that order.

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EDIT: After careful consideration, and after repeated simulations, I took out the amnesiac and replaced it with the escort. GF can now be RB'ed. Still debating whether to make escort and consort roleblock-able. (I may return Amnes and not let him become either killing OR maf, but I think that kind of defeats the purpose of the amnesiac.)

[Jowa]

good setups

[Brainrape]

My default setup:

Sheriff
-Detects all ON

Investigator
-Detecs exact role OFF

Doctor
- Prevents Conversion OFF
- Others ON

Mayor
- 3 Votes
- Doesn't Lose votes
- Can be healed

Basic Town
- Eat Babies ON
- No Excludes

Adv Town
- Exclude Power Role

2x Random Town
- Exclude Citizen

Godfather
- Invu
- Can be RBed
- Not detectable

Adv Mafia
- No Exclude

Random Mafia
- No Exclude

Basic Neutral (Always Cultist)
- Exclude Killing Role
- Exclude Benign Role
- (1 night between conversion on)

Adv Neutral (Always Arsonist)
- Exclude Non Killing Role
- Exclude Benign Role
- (Victim does not know when doused)
- (Immune)

Random Neutral
- Exclude killing roles

Random Any
- Exclude Mafia/Killing Roles



I always get yelled for not putting a fixed killing role, even there IS a fixed Arsonist and Cultist. But most people can NOT read roles list. This is really fun setup.

[Dean Newton]

^ Seeing SK in nearly every game is boring now. Arsonist is waaay more fun, because you never know when he's going to strike. And the longer the game goes on, the higher the danger grows.