Remove veteran.

[MitchPizza]

Seriously, this role ALWAYS does more bad than good for town.

They can do 2 things. Either

a) Claim a role like doctor, jailor, etc: something the mafia/sk want dead.
This will make mafia visit them to kill them, and invests/sheriffs visit them to make sure they aren't lying. Again, killing more town than mafia.

b) Don't claim anything, at which point it's complete luck who they kill. However, there are far more town roles that can visit than there are mafia, which makes them (statistically speaking) kill more town than mafia.

Either way it comes down to complete luck, luck which most of the time goes in the favor of the mafia.

Stupid role, should be removed (or made a neut.)

[Auckmid]

I may be no admistrator, but I can tell you right now, the veteran isn't going to be removed.

[Admiral]

Let's just replace the vest with a win button. Every time you push it, you win the game and get 10,000 points.

[Ash]

Let's just replace the vest with a win button. Every time you push it, you win the game and get 10,000 points.

I LOL'D. YOU ARE SMART.

Mitch, do you play with public? Oh, what am I saying.. Of course you do...
There's a difference between public and Inhouse... Public don't have any skills and just play for fun.. Inhouse people play for fun and HAVE skills, they know how to use roles to their advantages very well!

[BURNTESKIMO]

Wait I play inhouses with Ash and I don't have any skills at mafia i just random lynch

[Auckmid]

I LOL'D. YOU ARE SMART.

Mitch, do you play with public? Oh, what am I saying.. Of course you do...
There's a difference between public and Inhouse... Public don't have any skills and just play for fun.. Inhouse people play for fun and HAVE skills, they know how to use roles to their advantages very well!

Lol, so true. Last game I played, I rolled up Jailor. Over 3 nights, I executed 2 people. Those 2 people were mafia and SK, and the person I let go was town. Preaty pro skils. However, when I was killed, I was called a failor, even though I only killed scum, because I was "Random Killing" and only got my 2 kills through "luck". Soo..

Definition of luck in mafia: Term used by pubs who fail to understand the inner workings of mafia, and are so scared by your sheer epicness, they try to explain it in ways that there brains can understand.
EX: Why did everyone get struck by lightning? Must be luck.

[Ash]

Lol, so true. Last game I played, I rolled up Jailor. Over 3 nights, I executed 2 people. Those 2 people were mafia and SK, and the person I let go was town. Preaty pro skils. However, when I was killed, I was called a failor, even though I only killed scum, because I was "Random Killing" and only got my 2 kills through "luck". Soo..

Definition of luck in mafia: Term used by pubs who fail to understand the inner workings of mafia, and are so scared by your sheer epicness, they try to explain it in ways that there brains can understand.
EX: Why did everyone get struck by lightning? Must be luck.

i lol'd. +1

but i dont blame them if they call you a failor, tbh.
I WAS LIKE THAT ONCE, AND I GOT A CHANGE OF HEART THIS YEAR. because not always is it random execution, sometimes the jailed victim don't want to spit up info. so yup. thats my point of view.

[kiranearitachi]

no just no i love being veteran and wifom ppl to attack me like retards

[Mugy]

I once had a coloured name and also got veteren, heh heh heh

[kiranearitachi]

I once had a coloured name and also got veteren, heh heh heh

great combo hehe lol >

[Saneshelf]

Veterans have a habit of saying things other townies would be reluctant to say, especially on day 1 without a lynch. Those who failed to heed the warnings were holding your team back anyways.

[Blazer]

Veterans have a habit of saying things other townies would be reluctant to say, especially on day 1 without a lynch. Those who failed to heed the warnings were holding your team back anyways.

Indeed. Keep vet. Its a good role. Besides, you hardly see it anymore.

[Joeajon]

I love vets. What I do is let them have Unlimited nights, but there is a catch. There is a witch in play. Normally Witch wins because the vet is actually stupid enough to go on alert every night.