Board Meeting Four: Taking an Unsubtle Approach

[Lee Sin]

He can't be the bus driver because he only visited someone once.

Curious, Fiddlestyx claims attacked on night 2. Possible connection?

visited one person. Sorry that wasn't clear

[Gangplank]

visited one person. Sorry that wasn't clear

Doctor? Bodyguard? Like I said though I don't think hes mafia... someone else already claimed to be witched...

[Gunther]

Doctor? Bodyguard? Like I said though I don't think hes mafia... someone else already claimed to be witched...

Jarvan claimed witched day 1, no one claimed witched day 2. If Shaco was ult witched that would explain the discrepancy but if he wasn't then Graves isn't a bodyguard OR a doctor because I was attacked and not healed, just attacked and immune from the jail. If he was a bodyguard he would've died "protecting" me and killing my attacker.

Graves has been on my scum list since day 1 with his buddying and day 2 with his on-off again relationship with me. When you're town you can be a dick, when you're scum you tend to pull back so you don't come off as shady and aggressive.

[Gunther]

Jarvan claimed witched day 1, no one claimed witched day 2.

That should say Jarvan claimed witched day 2, no one claimed witched day 3. My bad.

[Gangplank]

That should say Jarvan claimed witched day 2, no one claimed witched day 3. My bad.

Kennen said he was witched last night. The witch probably ultied night 2, two nights ago.

Now that I think about it I think I have an idea what's going on here.

I'm going to sleep now. I hope you guys get something productive done so I have some posts to analyze.

[Garen]

Oh well I suppose the charade is up. It's ok Karthus. It was fun while it lasted. Well here is the grand reveal. I am Garen, Goremancer, the green jailor. I jailed Karthus last night for being extremely scummy. He trusted me completely. In fact his first post in the jail chat was a reveal. He revealed that he was witch. He said he will be a very powerful ally and had thought up a complicated defense to prove he was sheriff. I planned on executing him immediately. But it turned out that he still believed me after my execution post. Karthus tried convincing me about how powerful having a witch as an ally was. It was quite funny actually. Karthus proceeded to tell me his night actions. He said he will go overload to find the sk. (the jail chat will be paraphrased and posted in a minute). So I decided to kill him at the last minute after he submitted the night action. This way I can kill him and get info from the witching at the same time. Unfortunately I derped and posted on the jailchat using the Garen account. So Karthus knew I was jailor. Since witching goes before jailing... Yeah... I couldn't do anything about it at that point .

Well this would prove that the jailor who jailed mister mayor was indeed Lucy. My jailor number is 011. Of course I doubt any of you will believe me with such a crazy story. I still find it hard to believe. But believe me, it was amusing. After I paraphrase the jail chat, i'll post it.

[Lee Sin]

Fiddlestyx was also jailed that night (as he claims). connect the dots.

[Garen]

"You're the red jailor and that's perfect because I've been trying to contact you arsholes the whole game.

I'm the witch of eden and all my codes have been aimed at the assassins hoping one of you would solve the code.

https://tinyurl.com/NFOURMKI
https://tinyurl.com/TRZONER
https://tinyurl.com/myrrrrrl

The last one was lower case so they couldn't crack the other two codes if they solved the first one. I wanted to see who the sheriff would check, but he couldn't solve it.

Let me know who you want me to witch on to who and if you guys don't need to kill someone else you could jail protect me like this every night. If you want to talk using this code just upload an image to imgur and then make the tiny url something mysterious like what I did. You do not need to make it as obvious as I did, but you can put a code word in the message like banana."

"So i was eating a banana the other day...Anyway I tried getting really high." = tinyurl.com/AItgrh or somehing like that.

You guys (the assassins) are smart enough to figure this out. Communication is the easiest way to win this game for us so help me out and I can help you guys out.

*Proceeds to execute* *asked why should I keep him alive*

"BECAUSE I'M ON YOUR SIDE

You want to kill me because I'm a witch. I have a backup post completely ready for that situation. You then idiotically act like my backup post had no value and were just going to "give me mafia names" I'm not retarded I know this isn't how things works.

There are no other jailors and I know you're mafia jailor.

Look at the first message I made, no one detected it. I was in the clear. I shifted from telling my strategy to acting like a sheriff and tada magically someone notices the code. I'm then safe to claim sheriff. I can used the third clue to claim sheriff too.

You have to look at those posts and think "Hmm, what would I do in that situation" then look at this jail chat and ask yourself what you would do in my shoes.

I'm a powerful ally to have, but only while I'm alive. You can't bone me like this."

"K it was worth a shot.

If you're mafia then I'm screwed.

https://imgur.com/N4MKI
https://imgur.com/TrZ1R
https://imgur.com/my5rI

As you can see I uploaded them to imgur where I had no control over the URL. I then used those letters.

I didn't know if anyone was going to figure out the messages so I tried to act like a neutral, but my second and third hint should prove slightly that I'm a sheriff.

You gotta give me credit for making completely new links and pictures in case you were mafia. Look how much I was trying to focus on you telling me the other mafia members' names.

It's in your hands now, but if you want to use this code then by all means we can. I'm going through the posts and looking for someone to 'check' right now."

"Also think about who I checked.

I checked Jarvan for being (average) LOLOL

I checked gangplank Night 2. If you remember he's the one that is either a consort or escort so he totally would have been framed if I were sheriff and checked him. There would be no logical reason to check any of the players I checked on the nights I checked them. Therefore I made that whole shit up."

*Proceeds to execute again lololol"

"Nope. You're the mafia jailor. It is okay though because I'm about to get MoP beta and I'd have been modkilled eitherway.

When you realize you have executed a witch then you can explain to your mafia friends that you made a huge mistake."

"Oh yeah and anyone saying they were witched is either lying or drugged(I'm random.org ing 3 people to 3 people) I'll save the second overload in case you want me to use it later to ensure a victory.

I might control one of your drug dealers to use it on someone else too, but no one will know who I hit."

"What am I saying.

I want to find the SK for you guys so I'll try to find him through witching.

Ryze on Fizz
Lux on Mayor
Shaco on Udyr

Those will be my three controlled people. Let me know if you want me to change it."

"I did not witch anyone night1 and witched gangplank last night to target Jarvan. I definitely controlled gangplank, but I switched it around because I thought he was escort and did not want him to roleblock you guys, but I didn't want to accidentally block you either. I changed it a few times during the night."

[Garen]

Sorry Karthus if you feel betrayed :P It was fun while it lasted. I can't believe you still believed I was red jailor after all that execution attempts I did.

[Garen]

I will be going off very soon. If you guys have questions about the jail chat ask now.

[Nautilus]

Will you be replacing people who are mod killed or just killing them? Or do only cits get killed and prs are replaced?

[Alan Rikkin]

Elixir is going to put the votes up there until we get to the hammer when he just won't end day. Every other FM host did that.

I meant garen yeah

-vote Garen

He basically read off to me exactly what happened to me in jail last night with the goremancer thing and then trying to kill me.

"Anyways, what went down:

He told me his name was Goremancer and asked who I was going to lead the lynch against.

I told him no need to hide Lucy. If you keep talking to me that will be your grave mistake..

then he does /desync or whatever it was in red text."

That's exactly what happened to me.

They wanted me to know who they were I'm guessing.

I am Claw by the way.

https://imgur.com/N4MKI
https://imgur.com/TrZ1R
https://imgur.com/my5rI

Obviously the first one I was testing the waters with.

I used some fake tinyURL links with different images to prove that I was the witch and they must have somehow bought my lies.

I was claiming witch to the jailor all night and he didn't kill me so that's why I know he's the red jailor. He also messed up and responded one time with his real account.

Ambient also fucked up because I was put in jail and could see Fiddlesticks posts. Fiddlesticks was jailed by the same guy I was jailed by. Meta reasons or whatever, but I've told Elixir everything that's happened and he hasn't mod killed me and I'm not going to not use information just because.

I'm not talking any different I just am not in hiding anymore. My first 5 posts were one word responses that I explain in my images.

You lying son of a bitch.

As memory comes to serve, this is what REALLY happened.

Lucy says his name is Goremancer and says he was jailed me and was going to grant me immunity but said it ended up being a waste. Then asks me who I am leading against tomorrow.

I say,

No need to hide, Lucy. something like that.

I end up saying,

Send Karthus this message; He is going to die tomorrow.


He responds with saying

Jack was wrong and so are you.


I than say

I will not die. I can't die.

Once I get out of here, I will look for you... I will find you.. and I will kill you.

He spams PISS in a very long word..


than in red text, it appears...

/force desynchronization


-unvote Ryze


-Vote Karthus

[Garen]

Oh I didn't read all the posts. By the time I went on all of this had happened? Man I should've executed. Oh well. Either way,
-Vote Karthus


Sorry about lurking day 2 and 3. I had to keep my profile low. Would have been perfect if I didn't derp.

[Soraka]

I can't stop laughing... did that witch really believed that you are Lucy Stillman? What a fail. And you decided to postpone that execution to reveal that information to everyone? I think that was really good decision, Garen.
Anyway, since witch can control people at night, we just can execute her today to stop that.

-vote Karthus

Looks like this will be piece of cake.

[Nautilus]

I didn't understand much of that. Are you saying that Karthus is Lucy and not Ryze?

[Soraka]

Didn't Garen said that Karthus is witch? Are you telling me that we should lynch Ryze first and kill the witch later?

[Nautilus]

Didn't Garen said that Karthus is witch? Are you telling me that we should lynch Ryze first and kill the witch later?

Karthus claimed witch in jail then claimed sheriff now. I don't get what Alan is saying in his post other than Karthus lied about something.

[Garen]

Read over the jail chat Nautilus. Karthus told me what he will say to prove himself sheriff. If I didn't post on the jailchat with my Garen account he would be dead... Gah. Too bad.

[Garen]

Anyway I'm going off now. And yes I am Goremancer. Have I already said that?

[Nautilus]

Ok I see it. I wasn't clicking on the links because I'm on my phone. I'll vote Karthus later.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Karthus (6) : Alan Rikken, Garen, Soraka
Ryze (6) : Udyr, Kennen, Katarina, Fiddlesticks, Irelia, Lux
Garen (1) : Karthus

[Udyr]

A Compendium of Unproven Claims and Conjectures

Role List:
William Miles - Godfather
Erudito - Coroner
Lucy Stillman - Animus Supervisor Ryze
[Hidden Assassin]
[Hidden Assassin]
[Hidden Assassin]

Hidden Assassin Role Possibilities: Disguiser, Consigliere, Mafioso, Janitor, Drug Dealer, Consort, Framer.

Guardian of Eden - Witch Karthus
[Hidden Neutral] Serial Killer
[Hidden Neutral]

Hidden Neutral Role Possibilities: Serial Killer, Arsonist, Spree Killer, Executioner, Amnesiac, Jester, Student, Ghost

Alan Rikkin Leona
Security Detail
Animus Programmer Udyr
Animus Desynchronizer
Virtual Security Agent
[Hidden Town] Detective Shaco
[Hidden Town] Escort Gangplank
[Hidden Town] Coroner Riven
[Hidden Town] Investigator Alistar
[Hidden Town] Jailor Garen
[Hidden Town] Bus Driver ???
[Hidden Town]
[Hidden Town]
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent
Abstergo Agent


Hidden Town Security Detail(Sheriff), Animus Programmer(Investigator), Data Analyst(Coroner), Animus Desynchronizer(Vigilante), Abstergo Circuit Breaker(Escort), Virtual Security Agent, Weaponmaster(Gunsmith), PPE Quatermaster(Armorsmith), Session Logger, Executive Security Officer, Animus Tracker(Detective), Animus Watcher(Lookout), Animus Switcher(Bus Driver), Animus Supervisor(Jailor), Elite Agent.

Jailor Claims:

Garen Jailor 011:
Night 1: Jarvan
Night 2: Fiddlesticks
Night 3: Karthus

LeBlanc Jailor 821:
Night 1: Irelia
Night 2: Katarina

Ryze (Lucy):
Night 1: Lee Sin
Night 2: Fizz
Night 3: Alan Rikken

Night Actions for Claimed Power Roles:

Karthus(Witch of Eden)
Night 1: Jarvan onto ???
Night 2: ???
Night 3: Kennen onto ???

Gangplank(Escort)
Night 1: Orianna
Night 2: Zilean
Night 3: Ryze

Riven (Coroner)
Night 1: -
Night 2: Morgana
They were Killed by a Serial Killer.
They had no last will.
They targetted Graves on Night 1.
Their role was Consigliere.
Night 3: ???

??? - (Bus Driver)
Night 1: Gangplank and ???
Night 2: Lee Sin and ???
Night 3: ??? and ???

Alistar (Investigator)
Night 1: Graves (Cit/Gf/Jester)
Night 2: Lee Sin BUS DRIVEN (Lookout/Detective/Framer/Disguiser/Ghost)
Night 3: Shaco (Cit/GF/Jester)

Shaco (Detective)
Night 1: Role-blocked? -> Consort apparently because Gangplank's rb's are all accounted for.
Night 2: Graves -> Fiddlesticks
Night 3: Graves -> Alan Rikken

Fiddlesticks claims he was attacked on Night 2. Graves says he may have unknowingly been witched on Night 2.

[Udyr]

I think Ryze(Lucy) jailed Alan Rikkin last night and claimed Goremancer even though he wasn't Goremancer. That is why everyone is confused.
The real Goremancer, Garen, jailed Karthus and had a conversation in which Karthus placed his full trust in Garen because he saw claiming witch(his real role) as a win-win situation for him. Also, Karthus is Claw.

@Garen I want to know why you didn't execute Karthus.
@Graves What is your role and who did you visit every single night?
@Riven Who did you coroner check and what were the results?

If all of these questions are answered, I will be satisfied.
Our lynch target should be Ryze, regardless of where our discussion may lead us. Ryze is Lucy. Do NOT lynch before the questions I have asked are answered.

Ta-ta for now.

[Karthus]

I told you all this already. I claimed witch to him because claiming sheriff to a red jailor was stupid.

I could not have possibly renamed my imgur links those are set in stone. I uploaded them and then posted the code. I thought you were stupid for not seeing that I was 100% sheriff, but instead you were stupid because you were town and thought I wasn't 100% sheriff.

I don't buy that he's green jailor for a second. How does that explain Alan Rikken lying about being jailed by Goremancer when Garen admits he is goremancer and jailed me last night.

I can't sit here all day and defend myself so if you want to take the chance than go for it. I've failed pretty hard at sheriff and I always do because sheriff finds 0 information and I can't do anything with it because it's the most obvious way to fake something. That and the thing I was balanced around finding died early.

Everything he posted is true btw I'm not saying I didn't say that stuff, but he certaintly didn't "fool" me. If he's town then he's a horrible jailor because he asked me 2 questions, devised no plan, and did the same for fiddle sticks from what I saw in his jailor chat.

Explain to me in what ways a witch could win a game by being sneaky and scummy. I was called out and the codes they were calling me out on were good codes outing me as sheriff. If I was a witch I would have said "YES YES LOOK I AM THE SHERIFF SEE!?"

This game is not fun as town because after 12 games everyone thinks they're the best mafia player ever and forget logic and reason. Myself included. Mafia get to sit around and do nothing while town ends up fucking itself.

[Katarina]

Who is a bigger threat? The witch or the Lucy? We can easily role block either with Gangplank even if Ryze jails Alan Rikken again.

[Nautilus]

The witch can't be blocked so she is a better lynch than Lucy. Lynching Karthus is slightly more risky than lynching Ryze however as we are less sure he is scum. I think we should block and shoot Ryze tonight while lynching Karthus, unless someone has found the SK.

Shaco could be a jester but if he is he is playing it obvious. He claimed blocked on day 2 like McPwnage did as a jester in M-FM I but no other blocks have been reported since then (could have been drugged). He then claims detective and makes some very odd claims about Graves moving twice (once to an attacked target, the other time to a non-attacked target) and contradicts Alistar's investigation results on him. Alistar and Graves have not confirmed their roles so it's possible that he is the detective however.

[Katarina]

The witch can't be blocked so she is a better lynch than Lucy. Lynching Karthus is slightly more risky than lynching Ryze however as we are less sure he is scum. I think we should block and shoot Ryze tonight while lynching Karthus, unless someone has found the SK.

Shaco could be a jester but if he is he is playing it obvious. He claimed blocked on day 2 like McPwnage did as a jester in M-FM I but no other blocks have been reported since then (could have been drugged). He then claims detective and makes some very odd claims about Graves moving twice (once to an attacked target, the other time to a non-attacked target) and contradicts Alistar's investigation results on him. Alistar and Graves have not confirmed their roles so it's possible that he is the detective however.

Crap, I forgot the witch is block immune.

I do think this is a good plan, that way we take care of two birds with one stone, while Ryze wastes another jail on the mayor.

-vote Karthus

[Nautilus]

Crap, I forgot the witch is block immune.

I do think this is a good plan, that way we take care of two birds with one stone, while Ryze wastes another jail on the mayor.

-vote Karthus

The witch isn't block immune but he can witch Gangplank to whoever he wants.

[Karthus]

[3/28/2012 10:11:09 PM] Claw: I'm either about to get MvP
[3/28/2012 10:11:10 PM] Claw: or LvP
[3/28/2012 10:11:18 PM] Claw: That's how risky this jail chat is
[3/28/2012 10:33:07 PM] Claw: LvP it is
[3/28/2012 10:33:14 PM] Claw: I got played

^ My thought process when he decided to kill me after I proved I was sheriff. That's how I knew he was red jailor.

[Nautilus]

-vote Karthus

[Karthus]

Put yourselves in my shoes. Town jailor is dead. The only other for sure jailor in the game is a red one. Why wouldn't you try to take advantage of that? I thought I could get on their good side and get some names out of them that way since my checking was working worth shit.

For all the people that are positive I'm claw you're retarded for thinking that I'm guilty when I try shit like this every game. Good luck town. I'm sending elixir my suicide note so you guys can kill someone else.

[Karthus]

Hasa Diga Eebowai

[Katarina]

Thats rather rude

[Graves]

If i must state it again and again - I am a Citizen. why did I believe Alistar? because I made no allusions to being a citizen whatsoever and he had my role immediately (when it would have been impossible for the mafia to have that information unless they sent two consiglieres after me on a single night).

I'm worried that we have another Jarvan scenario in Shaco. i'm worried that such obviously terrible play is indicative of a Jester but hides something more sinister. unfortunately Jarvan was just an idiot and deserves the *Worst Citizen in the history of forum mafia* award.

I did say that today was the time to question Ryze and that was looking like a great lynch too. though yeah.. Karthus does need to die. it's a decent bind to be in.

Mostly worried about the disguiser now. i was worried that i may be a target (but I suppose the mafia are trying to keep suspicion on me because of the latent suspicion on Alistar). Riven it would be great to hear your results.

once again I should state i am a Citizen (Abstergo Agent) and that Shaco is now highly FoS.

[Graves]

-vote Karthus

just gonna throw that there..

[Riven]

Autopsy results for Leblanc:

Targets:

Animus Session One: Irelia
Animus Session Two: Katarina

Your target was killed by a Serial Killer!

Your target's will was:

Originally Posted by LeBlanc
Yes, I am Animus Supervisor 821. Very sad that I perished tonight. And I made all this code to thwart the Assassins, too. Sumisadface.

Enjoy.

[Zilean]

Is there any specific order for killing actions, or if killing actions conflict (i.e. GF shoots vig, vig shoots someone else) will all of the actions go through?

Also, gonna throw out a vote

-vote Karthus

[Nautilus]

Which Animus training area should we select tonight?

Constantinople - Investigative Roles May Select 2 Targets if they choose, They will recieve both answers but not which is which.

Souk - Desynchronization prevention roles (Virtual Sec. Agent / Bodyguard) may select 2 targets.

Sienna - Night Will last 1/2 Normal Time

The Hidden City of Cappadocia - Night Immunities (Both Investiagtive and Survival) are Null and Void

There is no downside to selecting Souk.
Sienna if we want to end a game we have won quicker + shortens mafia discussion time + could prevent some PRs from sending in their actions on time.
Cappadocia if we want to look for or kill the godfather but a lot of our investigative roles will be killed that night.
Constantinople if we want to have a wider search but with the downside of not knowing which result is which.

So Souk or Constantinople?

[Graves]

A good question. Constantinople is tempting considering the amount of investigative roles still alive but i think Souk - there's still 2 kpn out there and i'd rather have a full spread of protection on our power roles.

it might also be the incentive we need to get an extra claim today with some more info.

[Riven]

Cappy is lucy, then? LOOL

Anyway Zilean you're not cleared you scum fuck.
I believe Claw made a gambit, also his witching targets were all a lie.
Either way its more beneficial to us to lynch Lucy than him, for lucy will execute someone tonight, and seeing how they can block gp to prevent him from stopping them, it saves us a life.

-vote Ryze

[Graves]

Ryze does give us more info. we have another jailer claim. i'd rather get the probable Lucy and at least put an end to this whole jailer business even if he isn't Lucy.

if he is a Mafioso then good. if he is a vigilante then he can prove it with the animus day bugging.

[Graves]

-unvote Karthus
-vote Ryze

[Graves]

I'm wondering why Pantheon jumped. he wasn't under any pressure really was he? i'm worried that one of our more trustworthy power roles has been compromised and is feeding us erroneous information. Or they jumped into an undiscovered town PR (like the hidden jailer) using info they found from Erudito - fairly certain a jailer who found this info on Karthus would keep it in his last will for example.

today Soraka, Katarina and especially Garen have come forward trying to keep the priority on Karthus. not highly scummy in itself (I mean Karthus has to die let's face it, I voted for him too) but with the threat of a disguiser we should be careful. I don't think the mafia would think twice about killing the witch if it gains them some credibility. who gains the most credibility from leading a lynch on Karthus and postponing the lynch on Ryze? that is the question we must be asking.

[Gangplank]

Wtf is going on. Why are you guys voting Karthus. Get Ryze, the jailor. I will bone Karthus tonight. I think escort block goes before witching, if I remember correctly.

Remember, if Karthus actually IS sheriff, then Alan Rikkin is boned tonight by Lucy. I will be witched away from Ryze and Alan will die.

Think this through. Ryze is the bigger target at this point.

[Zilean]

Wtf is going on. Why are you guys voting Karthus. Get Ryze, the jailor. I will bone Karthus tonight. I think escort block goes before witching, if I remember correctly.

Remember, if Karthus actually IS sheriff, then Alan Rikkin is boned tonight by Lucy. I will be witched away from Ryze and Alan will die.

Think this through. Ryze is the bigger target at this point.

Straight from the handbook:

1- Jailing
2- Night chats open
3- Defensive Item Use
4- Veteran Alert
5- Witch Controls
6- Escort / Consort Blocks
7- Lookout / Detective actions
8- Bus Driving
9- Framing
10- Investigations
11- Bodyguard
12- Killing Actions / Arson Dousing / Jailor Execute / Killing Item Use
13- Heals / Autopsies
14- Cleaning
15- Blackmailing / Drugs take effect
16- Give Items
17- Revolutionist Recruiting
18- Amnesiac remembers his role / Student chooses mentor / Ghost Possession
19- Jailor releases
20- Publishing a newspaper

I'm just pointing this out.

[Gangplank]

Straight from the handbook:

1- Jailing
2- Night chats open
3- Defensive Item Use
4- Veteran Alert
5- Witch Controls
6- Escort / Consort Blocks
7- Lookout / Detective actions
8- Bus Driving
9- Framing
10- Investigations
11- Bodyguard
12- Killing Actions / Arson Dousing / Jailor Execute / Killing Item Use
13- Heals / Autopsies
14- Cleaning
15- Blackmailing / Drugs take effect
16- Give Items
17- Revolutionist Recruiting
18- Amnesiac remembers his role / Student chooses mentor / Ghost Possession
19- Jailor releases
20- Publishing a newspaper

I'm just pointing this out.

Oh. Fuck. OP.

Does anyone have a gun to day shoot Karthus? I don't want to choose him in case he actually is sheriff or whatever...

[Gangplank]

Oh. Fuck. OP.

Does anyone have a gun to day shoot Karthus? I don't want to choose him in case he actually is sheriff or whatever...

Nonetheless. I don't want to risk Alan's life in case Karthus actually was making a gambit in jail.

Simple solution. Kill Ryze. Have Shaco follow Karthus/shoot Karthus. While it will give witch one more night to control, it shouldn't have that huge of an effect. Just let Garen execute Karthus tonight or something.

Be smart about this guys. We don't want to risk Alan's life and at this point Lucy is the only one who can kill him.

[Nautilus]

If the sheriff wants Karthus to be lynched he needs to claim. Otherwise Karthus is uncced.

-vote Ryze

[Gangplank]

If the sheriff wants Karthus to be lynched he needs to claim. Otherwise Karthus is uncced.

-vote Ryze

At this point I consider it highly scummy/stupid to vote anyone OTHER than Ryze. Ryze has the power to execute, Karthus/witch does not. I can be blocked tonight or witched if Karthus is not witched.

Kill Ryze. Save Alan.

Lucy > Witch at this point.

[Alistar]

Ok now I'm just fucking pissed. Shaco is a fucking citizen, so is Graves so he needs to stop his bullshit.