Board Meeting Three: The Investigation Continues...

[Graves]

-vote Shaco

in my mind i'm trying to figure out all these different variables trying to decide who to lynch and the answer has been in front of me all this time. Shaco contributes nothing, he comes on to say something cryptic or refer to himself in third person before disappearing again. the little pressure he has faced he has dodged. Alistar is facing huge pressure because the mafia (apparently) checked me and knew me to be a citizen as well - Alistar is facing huge pressure therefore based on information which Shaco is challenging.

I'm not actively trying to split a vote but Alistar hasn't shown to be the scummiest person here. i am still suspicious of Lee Sin and i feel he has led the charge on Alistar based on very little.

[Shaco]

Shaco does not want to see the jester lynched. Shaco implores people to unvote Jarvan, who clearly wishes to see himself lynched. Shaco instead will believe Riven's accusation against Alistar, who has been scummy since day one. -vote Alistar

[Riven]

Max one person of the buddiers can be mafia. The rest should be oblivious of each others' alignments for this to work.
I believe Erudito would want to know who graves is and come back for him next day. Your invisible ink claim brightens it up a little for you, but why did you target Udyr (cit) and then jarvan (probably cit or jester) for a lynch?
Tunnel visioning is a sign of a town pr with information more than scum imo.

[Alistar]

Tunnel Visioning is a strong scum tell, lee does NOT have any information on me. I targeted Udyr to get him to talk and put my vote off him when he did. It was a pressure vote I don't see the problem with that. Jarvan has been acting scummy and contributing very little to the discussion. He wifoms jester to hide something more sinister and reminds me of fm suicidaln00b who turned out to be the godfather right down to the troll claim. My preference would be to lynch Shaco but there isn't enough support on him.

Animus Switcher should be sure to leave who they swapped Lee Sin with in their last will, if they didn't swap him he is lying and probably mafia.

[Nautilus]

Also if you claim your role and com name Natilius I will claim my com name.

I'm not claiming my role but I'll claim my com name if you claim yours. I haven't tried to hide it.

Why would you say "Graves seems like a smart citizen to me."? Most inveses wouldn't say something like that because it makes them seem like a PR and helps the mafia narrow down the other PRs.

[Lux]

So this will probably be my only post for the next ~8 hours due to IRL things.

We need to lynch today.

My scumlist right now is, in order of scumminess:

Ryze
Gangplank
Lee Sin (jailed doesn't make him innocent, you know)
Rammus

I am 99% certain that Jarvan is a really bad jester.


Anyway, I will confirm that there is in fact an Animus Swapper in the game, as I was swapped Night 1. Don't know who with, or if it affected anything, and there are no notes as in FMX.

I would like to see Ryze or Ganglplank lynched today.

-vote Gangplank

Picking him because the town will actually vote this one.

[Alistar]

ninjaclaim for those who noticed it, obviously it wasn't clear but I was planning on making a remark like that every day until I claimed, sharing my results without sharing them lol.

[Alistar]

why does no one get a vote train on them when they refuse my roleclaim? life is not fair

[Shaco]

So this will probably be my only post for the next ~8 hours due to IRL things.

We need to lynch today.

My scumlist right now is, in order of scumminess:

Ryze
Gangplank
Lee Sin (jailed doesn't make him innocent, you know)
Rammus

I am 99% certain that Jarvan is a really bad jester.


Anyway, I will confirm that there is in fact an Animus Swapper in the game, as I was swapped Night 1. Don't know who with, or if it affected anything, and there are no notes as in FMX.

I would like to see Ryze or Ganglplank lynched today.

-vote Gangplank

Picking him because the town will actually vote this one.

Shaco notices that you say "We need to lynch today." and then vote for someone with zero chance of getting lynched. Shaco thinks that you do not want to see someone lynched today.

[Nautilus]

ninjaclaim for those who noticed it, obviously it wasn't clear but I was planning on making a remark like that every day until I claimed, sharing my results without sharing them lol.

That sounds pretty stupid which is why I want to know your com name. Otherwise it sounds more like you were setting up for a claim like Fyodor did in FM XI by "padlocking" a statement only an inves would make.

I'm Kromos btw. Who are you?

[Nautilus]

15 minutes later... still trying to think of a response?

[Alistar]

Was it stupid? I don't think so. I did not play fmIX (I assume you mean that and not the current fm) I am not familiar with what you are talking about could you enlighten me?

What is in a com name anyways?

[Gangplank]

Shaco notices that you say "We need to lynch today." and then vote for someone with zero chance of getting lynched. Shaco thinks that you do not want to see someone lynched today.

Gangplank notices that you refuse to respond to our questions on your claim that Graves is not a citizen.

You shouldn't be accusing Lux in such a situation. Your words are only misdirecting the town.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Ambient say's Current tally..

Jarvan IV (6) : Soraka, Fiddlesticks, Zilean, Fizz, Alistar, Gangplank
Udyr (5): Katarina, Pantheon, Sona, Orianna, Leona
Alistar (4) : Lee Sin, Riven, Nautilus, Shaco
Lee Sin (2) : Irelia, Ryze
Ryze (1) : Fiora
Caitlyn (1) : Nocturne
Soraka (1) : Udyr
Karthus (1) : Jarvan IV
Shaco (1) : Graves
Gangplank (1) : Lux

[Gangplank]

Was it stupid? I don't think so. I did not play fmIX (I assume you mean that and not the current fm) I am not familiar with what you are talking about could you enlighten me?

What is in a com name anyways?

Experience, previous FMs, play style, etc.

[Irelia]

Irelia says: no one will be lynched.

[Soraka]

Well, this might be good for us anyway. Last night only Jailor died, mafia probably missed again. Unless something else out of picture happens, this will be my last post on Day 3.

-unvote Jarvan

[Irelia]

Well, this might be good for us anyway. Last night only Jailor died, mafia probably missed again. Unless something else out of picture happens, this will be my last post on Day 3.

-unvote Jarvan

Only a jailor? Jailors are important...someone shoot her at night please.

[Sona]

WHY THE PRESSURE ON UDYR WAS STOPPED IS A MYSTERY.

HIS NIGHTLY ACTIVITY REMAINS UNEXPLAINED.

HE NEEDED TIME TO TAKE NOTES DURING TODAY'S BOARD MEETING.

THEN WHAT WAS HE DOING DURING THE ANIMUS SESSIONS IF NOT TAKING NOTES?

WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF HIS SUSPECTS LIST WAS COMPRISED OF BA'KU AND NEUTRAL TROLLS.

EASY PICKINGS.

IRELIA'S JAILED CLAIM APPEARED THE MOST FABRICATED ON BOARD MEETING TWO.

UDYR REFERS TO IT AS A JAILOR CLAIM AND CONSIDERS NON-BELIEVERS TO BE A THREAT.

STRANGE.


UDYR REFERS TO FIDDLESTICKS AS THE MOST PRO-TOWN PLAYER ON BOARD MEETING TWO.

FIDDLESTICKS WAS TOO EAGER TO DISCUSS JARVAN AND TRIED TOO HARD TO APPEAR USEFUL.

ALMOST LIKE HE HAD ULTERIOR MOTIVES.

AND HE WASN'T USEFUL IN ANY WAY.

HIS REASON FOR UNVOTING WAS DUBIOUS AT BEST.

Fizz makes a stronger defense for Jarvan than Jarvan himself. Could be mafia stepping in to save his buddy, or it could just be someone trying to protect a really shitty citizen. I'm not sure which it is yet, but I'll -unvote for now.

UNVOTE BECAUSE SOMEONE HE DOESN'T TRUST DEFENDS HIS TARGET.

HE THEN DISAPPEARED.

SLIPPING AWAY INTO OBSCURITY AS PREDICTED.

HAVING DONE HIS PART OF PRETENDING USEFULNESS FOR THE DAY.

HIS EXPLANATION FOR MISTAKING IRELIA FOR LUX WAS THAT THEY WERE PRACTICALLY THE SAME PERSON TO HIM.

REALLY?

I COULD SEE AN EXPLANATION BUT THAT WASN'T IT.

FROM WHAT THE SON'A HAVE SEEN LUX OR IRELIA IS THE ASSASSIN IN THE PARTY OF FOUR.

LUX HAS DISPLAYED MUCH STRANGE BEHAVIOR BOTH BOARD MEETINGS BUT HAS ELUDED ATTENTION.


OUR VERDICT IS THAT FIDDLESTICKS UDYR AND LUX HAVE THE HIGHEST PROBABILITY OF BEING ASSASSINS.

OUR VOTE STAYS.

UDYR KNOWS MORE THAN HE IS WILLING TO SHARE AND IS THE ONLY ASSASSIN WHO MIGHT GET LYNCHED BY THE END OF THIS MEETING.

[Irelia]

Udyr is erudito?
Possible. Mafia at least...
I hope lux isn't evil

[Riven]

udyr hadn't even read day 2. He is a citizen or lying to be able to lurk more

[Irelia]

-unvote
-vote udyr

You are still being watched lee sin

[Nautilus]

Was it stupid? I don't think so. I did not play fmIX (I assume you mean that and not the current fm) I am not familiar with what you are talking about could you enlighten me?

What is in a com name anyways?

In FM 9 I claimed investigator as a detective and Fyodor (COM name Claw) made a post saying:

I am the investigator. I checked Larisa last night but I won't say what she is yet.

Alexei is falling on her own so there's no need for me to prove that this is wrong by role claiming, but for now I'll just leave this message PAD locked here for future reference.

He then claimed investigator later in the game when he was mafia.

Similar to what you did by leaving clues to your role before you claimed. I think saying Graves is a cit is stupid because mafia might think you are a PR and you are helping them by narrowing down the possible PRs by saying someone is a cit. An investigator would worry about doing this but mafia who are only interested in strengthening their role claim wouldn't.

Can you tell me your normal account name so I can see where you are coming from and it will help my analysis of you?

[Nautilus]

Thanks for reminding us Sona. I would say there is a very good chance that Udyr is an assassin.

-vote Udyr

We're still waiting for Leona to make whatever claim she was going to make and around 6 people haven't posted once today. Hopefully they will be replaced soon so we can get something done.

[Graves]

I think you're thinking far too much into this Kromos. you yourself said this game would be training for the sleuth role, with the mafia reading and erasing last wills why shouldn't an investigator make that kind of observation? even though i was the subject i didn't think much of it at first - it was just an innocuous comment.

Riven claims that the consig targeted me. this would probably indicate that no one else from the mafia targeted me. Alistar revealed some information without a role-claim during day 1. he wouldn't have had anyone from the mafia sending him codes nor a night chat giving him the result (because the consig did not get a chance to relay anything back to the mafia).

in short Alistar was pressured to role-claim and labelled as scummy by many many people. he role-claimed. people have been tearing his claim apart - everyone has been trying to find holes in it while MUCH scummier people walk away free.

[Nocturne]

Congratulations town this will only end up in another no-lynch day.

Have yourselves a good night.
Bouncing before the wifey finds me

[Graves]

I say we shovel the votes onto Jarvan or Udyr who are the most likely to be lynched. if we consolidate the votes from Alistar and either Jarvan or Udyr onto one person then we're in a much better position.

personally i think Jarvan is a better target than Udyr. I think he is playing the overtly jestery type in order to be written off - no one expects anything from him and expects him to be a jester. If he is a town role he is causing too much confusion even as a smokescreen. i think it more likely he is an assassin. Udyr is still under pressure to provide some decent contributions while jarvan seems to have scope to just insult us.

-vote Jarvan IV

[Graves]

Tally:

Jarvan IV (6) : Fiddlesticks, Zilean, Fizz, Alistar, Gangplank, Graves
Udyr (7): Katarina, Pantheon, Sona, Orianna, Leona, Irelia, Nautilus
Alistar (3) : Lee Sin, Riven, Shaco
Lee Sin (2) : Ryze
Ryze (1) : Fiora
Caitlyn (1) : Nocturne
Soraka (1) : Udyr
Karthus (1) : Jarvan IV
Gangplank (1) : Lux

hopefully tomorrow will yield more answers - specifically from Shaco!

[Nautilus]

I think you're thinking far too much into this Kromos. you yourself said this game would be training for the sleuth role, with the mafia reading and erasing last wills why shouldn't an investigator make that kind of observation? even though i was the subject i didn't think much of it at first - it was just an innocuous comment.

Riven claims that the consig targeted me. this would probably indicate that no one else from the mafia targeted me. Alistar revealed some information without a role-claim during day 1. he wouldn't have had anyone from the mafia sending him codes nor a night chat giving him the result (because the consig did not get a chance to relay anything back to the mafia).

in short Alistar was pressured to role-claim and labelled as scummy by many many people. he role-claimed. people have been tearing his claim apart - everyone has been trying to find holes in it while MUCH scummier people walk away free.

Erudito can't erase last wills. He just reads them and won't get much from them when every cit should be putting fake night actions in their last wills as well. My playstyle is to go down one line of questioning and pressure until I am satisfied that that person is town. I am not yet satisfied that Alistar is town and Alistar could be very dangerous if you put complete trust into him. He still won't claim his com name which I find very suspicious as he may well be hiding how experienced he is and I don't think an experienced player would do what he did as town.

The case against Udyr is this:

Udyr says he was out of town and has only read up to the start of day 2.
Udyr was spotted on the FM XI forum during both night 1 and 2.
He says he hadn't read day chat so he must have been on at night for some over reason, i.e. a night chat.

That's a pretty good case and better than most we have at the moment.

[Graves]

though it is interesting to note at this point that the people voting on Alistar include Lee Sin (who is blowing a lot of hot air and has tunnel visioned Alistar - who checked him and Lee Sin has no interest in finding out who he was bussed with), Shaco (aforementioned confusion monger) and Riven (who i kinda believe but her evidence is based on the fact that someone ALREADY DEAD checked me night 1 - unless the mafia sent 2 consiglieres after me i would think her evidence would clear Alistar?).

[Nautilus]

I say we shovel the votes onto Jarvan or Udyr who are the most likely to be lynched. if we consolidate the votes from Alistar and either Jarvan or Udyr onto one person then we're in a much better position.

personally i think Jarvan is a better target than Udyr. I think he is playing the overtly jestery type in order to be written off - no one expects anything from him and expects him to be a jester. If he is a town role he is causing too much confusion even as a smokescreen. i think it more likely he is an assassin. Udyr is still under pressure to provide some decent contributions while jarvan seems to have scope to just insult us.

-vote Jarvan IV

Jarvan should be shot tonight in case he is a jester. Udyr is less likely to be a jester so should be lynched instead.

[Gangplank]

Congratulations town this will only end up in another no-lynch day.

Have yourselves a good night.
Bouncing before the wifey finds me

We need to choose a target to lynch, a lynch on a scummy target will provide much information that will generate impetus for investigations and future leads.

Generally, everyone agrees Ryze is scummy. He has barely posted, his first real analytic post had multiple fallacies, and he has relapsed into lurking.

I suggest a pressure that will either lynch or force a claim

-unvote
-vote Ryze

Someone should shoot Jarvan as well

[Nautilus]

We need to choose a target to lynch, a lynch on a scummy target will provide much information that will generate impetus for investigations and future leads.

Generally, everyone agrees Ryze is scummy. He has barely posted, his first real analytic post had multiple fallacies, and he has relapsed into lurking.

I suggest a pressure that will either lynch or force a claim

-unvote
-vote Ryze

Someone should shoot Jarvan as well

This is what will lead to a no lynch. Ryze currently has 2 votes which shows almost everyone would rather lynch someone else. The only 2 options we have is Jarvan and Udyr and I would rather have Jarvan killed at night. Stop trying to split the vote so we can't lynch anyone, especially with so many lurkers not voting.

[Gangplank]

This is what will lead to a no lynch. Ryze currently has 2 votes which shows almost everyone would rather lynch someone else. The only 2 options we have is Jarvan and Udyr and I would rather have Jarvan killed at night. Stop trying to split the vote so we can't lynch anyone, especially with so many lurkers not voting.

I feel Ryze is far scummier than Udyr. However, if no one else supports a lynch on Ryze then I will vote Udyr to see a claim.

[Graves]

this is at least a good test of whether we have a vigilante or not. i would be happy to see Jarvan shot at night though the vigi may have to come out and say he hit the godfather.

This is a scenario which is now playing out in my head.

Jarvan is the GF. he claims Citizen to the town jailer. he has his outburst in day chat, claiming Citizen but being rude and coming up with clues and information we believe to be fabricated. he then begins the whole *I don't care if u guys lynch me lolol i'm a cit*. To many he looks like a jester, to some he looks like a citizen just gone mental. if he's lucky a few people might believe he is a town PR putting on a facade. he's thinking "if an investigator checks me i'll come up as Cit/Jester/Godfather" and we'll be more inclined to believe the first two results.

but if it will help i will jump on the Udyr wagon. i simply want so many other people lynched above him but i don't have any problem lynching him per se.

-vote Udyr

just a shame that his lynch won't reveal nearly as much information as others. hell even my lynch would reveal more information.. let's contemplate suicide tonight lolol

[Jarvan IV]

I say we shovel the votes onto Jarvan or Udyr who are the most likely to be lynched. if we consolidate the votes from Alistar and either Jarvan or Udyr onto one person then we're in a much better position.

personally i think Jarvan is a better target than Udyr. I think he is playing the overtly jestery type in order to be written off - no one expects anything from him and expects him to be a jester. If he is a town role he is causing too much confusion even as a smokescreen. i think it more likely he is an assassin. Udyr is still under pressure to provide some decent contributions while jarvan seems to have scope to just insult us.

-vote Jarvan IV

Damn straight I do you fucking moron.

[Jarvan IV]

-vote Udyr

[Nautilus]

Are you ok with being shot tonight, Jarvan?

[Ryze]

It's not my fault if you people are too retarded to understand my argument.

I never said that Fizz's jailor both doesn't exist and seems town-alligned. I said that they don't seem to have too much reason to believe that their jailor is scummy, yet they seem to push it so persistently and desperately. If you can't understand that, then I'm sorry, but you're stupid.

[Jarvan IV]

Are you ok with being shot tonight, Jarvan?

Sure. I am invincible at night.

[Renekton]

-vote Udyr

We have to start somewhere and he clearly lied about his online activities. His hard info was, interesting lulz. Still a pretty pathetic strategy for a Mafia. Oh well i would prefer to lynch J4 or Irelia just because they only spam shit the whole day.

4 great justice!

[Riven]

-vote Udyr

So be it. Zilean voting jarvan proves it must be a bad idea, anyway.
Maybe we're lucky and he's more than a disinterested cit.

[Soraka]

Now this is really something out of picture. Why is everyone voting Udyr again? Who started that stupid lynch train on him? I told you already that there are more scummy people on the look, like Shaco, Jarvan, or Ryze.
Just look, even Jarvan himself is voting against Udyr. Don't you find it suspicious?

[Jarvan IV]

Now this is really something out of picture. Why is everyone voting Udyr again? Who started that stupid lynch train on him? I told you already that there are more scummy people on the look, like Shaco, Jarvan, or Ryze.
Just look, even Jarvan himself is voting against Udyr. Don't you find it suspicious?

I'm voting because he's a faggot.

Suck my dick.

[Soraka]

You aren't better.

-vote Jarvan

[Riven]

Its one of the two today, and Zilean who i think is a scumbag votes on Jarvan

[Veigar]

-vote Jarvan IV
Lynching Udyr seems to be completely pointless from what I've read.

Good morning folks, it's 8:45 AM and I come to a load of bullshit.

[Veigar]

-vote Jarvan IV
I just noticed I selected the wrong color, hope this fixes it.

[Soraka]

It will take 18 votes to terminate a contract. Yet we are nowhere as close to that number. The day will end in 6 hours soon.

[Udyr]

WHY THE PRESSURE ON UDYR WAS STOPPED IS A MYSTERY.

HIS NIGHTLY ACTIVITY REMAINS UNEXPLAINED.

HE NEEDED TIME TO TAKE NOTES DURING TODAY'S BOARD MEETING.

THEN WHAT WAS HE DOING DURING THE ANIMUS SESSIONS IF NOT TAKING NOTES?

WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF HIS SUSPECTS LIST WAS COMPRISED OF BA'KU AND NEUTRAL TROLLS.

EASY PICKINGS.

IRELIA'S JAILED CLAIM APPEARED THE MOST FABRICATED ON BOARD MEETING TWO.

UDYR REFERS TO IT AS A JAILOR CLAIM AND CONSIDERS NON-BELIEVERS TO BE A THREAT.

STRANGE.


UDYR REFERS TO FIDDLESTICKS AS THE MOST PRO-TOWN PLAYER ON BOARD MEETING TWO.

FIDDLESTICKS WAS TOO EAGER TO DISCUSS JARVAN AND TRIED TOO HARD TO APPEAR USEFUL.

ALMOST LIKE HE HAD ULTERIOR MOTIVES.

AND HE WASN'T USEFUL IN ANY WAY.

HIS REASON FOR UNVOTING WAS DUBIOUS AT BEST.



UNVOTE BECAUSE SOMEONE HE DOESN'T TRUST DEFENDS HIS TARGET.

HE THEN DISAPPEARED.

SLIPPING AWAY INTO OBSCURITY AS PREDICTED.

HAVING DONE HIS PART OF PRETENDING USEFULNESS FOR THE DAY.

HIS EXPLANATION FOR MISTAKING IRELIA FOR LUX WAS THAT THEY WERE PRACTICALLY THE SAME PERSON TO HIM.

REALLY?

I COULD SEE AN EXPLANATION BUT THAT WASN'T IT.

FROM WHAT THE SON'A HAVE SEEN LUX OR IRELIA IS THE ASSASSIN IN THE PARTY OF FOUR.

LUX HAS DISPLAYED MUCH STRANGE BEHAVIOR BOTH BOARD MEETINGS BUT HAS ELUDED ATTENTION.


OUR VERDICT IS THAT FIDDLESTICKS UDYR AND LUX HAVE THE HIGHEST PROBABILITY OF BEING ASSASSINS.

OUR VOTE STAYS.

UDYR KNOWS MORE THAN HE IS WILLING TO SHARE AND IS THE ONLY ASSASSIN WHO MIGHT GET LYNCHED BY THE END OF THIS MEETING.

Your case against me is pathetic. I have something called a phone, which I use to check the posts and quickly skim through them to ensure that I know the gist of what is going on. Obviously, I would find some way to get internet if I was being accused, as is the case now.

Regardless, I no longer think Sona is suspicious. I have thoroughly read Day 2 and I am convinced that Sona is taking too many risks that a mafia member would never take.

For now, I believe Jarvan to be the serial killer, so I will support his lynch.
-vote Jarvan

Reading day 2 in detail has lead me to suspect Zilean and Ryze to a much greater extent than I had previously thought. I also find Katarina to be less scummy than I previously thought.

I would be willing to support a lynch on:
Ryze
Soraka
Zilean
Jarvan

If you think I am still somehow scummy please state adequate reasons instead of saying it was because I was inactive. I truly do not believe the people accusing me are mafia, they are just desperate to lynch someone, anyone, even if it is a terrible choice. Right now, I happen to be the one with the greatest amount of votes, so it is understandable that people will want to lynch me. I urge you to reconsider. The evidence presented on me is insubstantial at best, but I would be willing to answer any legitimate questions you have for me.