France is overall better than the U.S, Y/N?

[Necrolord]

Okay, someone in Mafia chat was talking about how France has no military victories, and that made me think of their other strengths.

-France and Germany both chose not to go into Iraq, leading to the "Freedom Fries" controversy in the U.S. The French Ambassador to the U.S said "We have bigger concerns to worry about than what to call deep-fried potatoes."
-France didn't lose in Iraq, they chose not to play, and stood by and laughed at the U.S
-France gave the U.S the Statue of Liberty
-France aided the U.S in the American Revolution
-France gave the U.S their Constitution, and the U.S government is modeled off the French one
-French food is considered the best in the world
-France has *total* free healthcare, without having to brutalize their citizens in other aspects of life
-France's history has shown the government is afraid of their people, whereas in the U.S, the people fear their government.

I welcome other opinions

[NorthStar]

Personally I have nothing against the French but, if you want to raise more retarded threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJcyOLwUmyI

[BorkBot]

You forgot to mention that McDonalds sells French fries.

I voted no to the poll. Mind you, France does not have the best of reputations among Europeans. They're very proud and their involvement in EU politics is often quite self-centered and unreasonable, which they can get away with because they're a "big player."

Yes, I guess you could say the same about the US on a worldwide scale, but France is much closer to home for us.

[Necrolord]

I voted yes, but your trisomy is showing once again Necrolord. The French Revolution started 13 years after the American Revolution and the American Constitution was adopted 2 years before the French Revolution. Would you please delineate your trisomy logic to explain how France or the French were responsible for a document that occured before their own democratic revolution? Was a time macine involved? Was it powered by baguettes? France helped the U.S. secede from the British Empire, but that was only because it was in France's geopolitical interests at the time. At the time of the American Revolution France was still ruled by despotic kings. In fact, up until the execution of Louis XVI in 1793 France had been ruled by monarchs for over one-thousand years.

Please let your mommy and daddy fact check for you before you post or your trisomy will continue to embarrass you.

Challenge accepted. If you are proven to be right, I will concede this one victory to you. I will go on a fact-checking mission.

Hypothesis about what you said:
1) You just confirmed that France helped the U.S during the American Revolution, so however evil France was at the time is irrelevant, America should always remember who their first ally was. America has this attitude to anyone who's ever helped them, they turn on them later. Iraq is a GREAT example!
2) You're right about the U.S Constitution, actually. However as nice as it sounds, it's betraying you guys. There is no amendment that calls for summary execution of government officials who violate the Constitution, therefore you don't really have an effective one.

There. Only made one historical error, and I owned up to it like a real man.

What do you like about America? Oh I've got a laundry list of complaints:

-Largest exporter of electroshock weapons to the world
-Only western nation to still use corporal punishment in schools (mostly in the Dirty South)
-Only western nation that has executed minors under their current death penalty, next to nations very low on the human rights index
-Oh wait, only western nation that has the death penalty!
-Only nation to ever use the nuclear bomb to kill people (I know, that's a cheapshot that everyone uses...)
-Very low literacy rate
-Only western nation that equips its cops like soldiers, and gives them the license to kill without fear of prosecution (also in Canada, I hate it here too)

Is that what you're defending? I could name all the GREAT THINGS, but they are meant as distractions to make Americans believe they're actually living in the "land of the free". Why do you think Occupy failed so hard?

If the U.S government and their corporate friends just axed 60% of all American jobs, and introduced more draconic legislation, THEN Americans would get off their asses. These computers, internet, video games, etc, are sedation methods. Yes, I know, I'm being subjected to one right now.

"Idle hands are a devil's playground." The U.S government knows this (or do they? They aren't giving fucking jobs right now), and so does their best friend, Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia knows their best method of fighting terrorism is welfare and employment. They are the world's largest welfare state because the desert nation's only major exports are oil. They have to keep unemployment levels as low as possible not because it keeps the economy going, but because of the fear of stirring militancy. I took a Middle East elective in college.

[Nick]

1) You just confirmed that France helped the U.S during the American Revolution, so however evil France was at the time is irrelevant, America should always remember who their first ally was. America has this attitude to anyone who's ever helped them, they turn on them later. Iraq is a GREAT example!

It's an alliance of convenience. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. In reality it's not a real friend. Was there even any in politics? And Iraq was just a pawn. Like many others. Once they have outlived to their usefulness, they are disposable.

Was there ever a better nation? Depends on who you are. Most of the good things we hear are just propaganda. And real good things are transient, because the parasites will infest it once they are good.

Saudi Arabia knows their best method of fighting terrorism is welfare and employment. They are the world's largest welfare state because the desert nation's only major exports are oil. They have to keep unemployment levels as low as possible not because it keeps the economy going, but because of the fear of stirring militancy. I took a Middle East elective in college.

So true! Keep them busy and don't let them get hungry.

[Crimson]

This forum is just filled with trolls. It's unbelievable.


There needs to be a clean up. I can't believe all the trolls on this forum.

It just ain't classy.


PS:

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[Nick]

I'm not sure if democracy is always better than monarchy or other forms of government. I would say that each have their own strengths and weaknesses. The wise but corrupt will always find ways to exploit and outplay the system.

I don't think the current France is any better than the current US. Then again, on what criteria are you judging them? On how well they treat their citizens? Or on how well they treat others (countries)?

[Jim]

Okay, someone in Mafia chat was talking about how France has no military victories, and that made me think of their other strengths.

-France and Germany both chose not to go into Iraq, leading to the "Freedom Fries" controversy in the U.S. The French Ambassador to the U.S said "We have bigger concerns to worry about than what to call deep-fried potatoes."
-France didn't lose in Iraq, they chose not to play, and stood by and laughed at the U.S
-France gave the U.S the Statue of Liberty
-France aided the U.S in the American Revolution
-France gave the U.S their Constitution, and the U.S government is modeled off the French one
-French food is considered the best in the world
-France has *total* free healthcare, without having to brutalize their citizens in other aspects of life
-France's history has shown the government is afraid of their people, whereas in the U.S, the people fear their government.

I welcome other opinions

-Are you trolling bad or do you not understand that France was still a Monarchy when we had our revolution. We had a constitution while France was still a Monarch and not a republic in any way. (because we are a republic not a democracy)
-Freedom Fries are better then French fries
-They may have given us a statue of liberty, but this was made of copper, i can punch a hole in my wall and get some of that (cheap assholes). And it was orange which nobody like so we made it green the color of money.
-After Napoleon France couldn't hold their own in a fight versus Switzerland. (because they wouldn't hurt a fly)
-Unite States has the best food, we have pizza, tacos/burritos, hamburgers, crepes, Chinese food, and much more.
-We stopped Germany from totally raping France TWICE, (WW1 and WW2) so uhhhh they kinda owe us that one.
I would love to see you try and disprove any of my facts.

[Nick]

This forum is just filled with trolls. It's unbelievable.


There needs to be a clean up. I can't believe all the trolls on this forum.

It just ain't classy.

Are you suggesting that we have a dedicated suforum for serious discussion?

[Necrolord]

This forum is just filled with trolls. It's unbelievable.


There needs to be a clean up. I can't believe all the trolls on this forum.

It just ain't classy.


PS:

US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>France .

DEVELOPING STORY: the United States population moves into France XDXDXDXD

[Necrolord]

-They may have given us a statue of liberty, but this was made of copper, i can punch a hole in my wall and get some of that (cheap assholes). And it was orange which nobody like so we made it green the color of money (so if they were so patriotic, why not make an entirely new statue, since copper is so easy to start with?)-Unite States has the best food, we have pizza, tacos/burritos, hamburgers, crepes, Chinese food, and much more. (all of it Americanized but still delicious. Pizza was imported from Italy, crepes from France, tacos/burritos from Mexico, Chinese food (American Chinese). I'll give hamburgers the benefit of the doubt, as the original hamburger wasn't like what it is today)
-Liberating France was very nice, however it was required to halt the spread of fascism. So the liberation of France was purely functional.

[Necrolord]

Great place to post a gripe about the U.S. One time I was detained in immigration at the Canada/U.S border because I said I was visiting my Dad's house and helping him with some tasks. That counts as "labour". That counts as stealing American jobs. Except my Dad was going to do it himself otherwise, so we should both go to jail. Me for stealing an American job, and Dad for not providing one to an American.

The concept the agent explained to me, is if you lift an object for an American citizen, it's labour that you should have a green card for.

[Jim]

-They may have given us a statue of liberty, but this was made of copper, i can punch a hole in my wall and get some of that (cheap assholes). And it was orange which nobody like so we made it green the color of money (so if they were so patriotic, why not make an entirely new statue, since copper is so easy to start with?)-Unite States has the best food, we have pizza, tacos/burritos, hamburgers, crepes, Chinese food, and much more. (all of it Americanized but still delicious. Pizza was imported from Italy, crepes from France, tacos/burritos from Mexico, Chinese food (American Chinese). I'll give hamburgers the benefit of the doubt, as the original hamburger wasn't like what it is today)
-Liberating France was very nice, however it was required to halt the spread of fascism. So the liberation of France was purely functional.

WELL, Tacos/burritos aren't real Mexican food, real Mexican food is like rat stew. (This is Tex/Mex)
Hamburgers are German.
We didn't make a new statue because we are a country of procrastinators and we will do it later.

[Jim]

Great place to post a gripe about the U.S. One time I was detained in immigration at the Canada/U.S border because I said I was visiting my Dad's house and helping him with some tasks. That counts as "labour". That counts as stealing American jobs. Except my Dad was going to do it himself otherwise, so we should both go to jail. Me for stealing an American job, and Dad for not providing one to an American.

The concept the agent explained to me, is if you lift an object for an American citizen, it's labour that you should have a green card for.

Thank god for border patrol, i respect them for not letting you in this great country.
If someone else going same thing was stopped they should be let in, but you....

[creedkingsx]

Didn't read a word of anything above me. But I will gracefully point out the France is a pussy country. We had to come to their aid in both WWI and WWII.
*No offense to anyone from France. lol

[Blazer]

America is #1
U.S.A.! (although we aren't as great as we used to be T.T)

[NettleS]

Didn't read a word of anything above me. But I will gracefully point out the France is a pussy country. We had to come to their aid in both WWI and WWII.
*No offense to anyone from France. lol

Didn't France come to your aid in the war of 1812?
Anyway France has too high taxes and too many muslims , it's up to 10-15% muslim now.

[Ash]

America is #1
U.S.A.! (although we aren't as great as we used to be T.T)

America? America consists of Canada, U.S.A, and many latin countries.
Why is this continent superior? Is it bigger than other landmasses? plox elaborate

[Admiral]

Please do some fact checks before you post nonsense.

Even given our economic decline we're still the #1 nation in the world.

[Capitalier]

i voted no because france doesn't want turkey in the eu
true story

also plato

[Blazer]

America? America consists of Canada, U.S.A, and many latin countries.
Why is this continent superior? Is it bigger than other landmasses? plox elaborate

Yes it does. And because we're in the western hemisphere. Lol jk.
But seriously, usa is #1.
Japan it's cool too. They had samurais. And they're pretty cool today

[FYRE]

France #1. USA #0

[Ash]

People that best represent U.S and France:
France - Napoleon
U.S - Washington

You choose!

[Socretin]

Well the US's power is declining increasingly fast but overall everyone is better than France so

[jimbobicus]

Canada is better

[wolfcheese]

I voted yes because it was much easier for me to learn French than to learn English, even though the latter came first.

[Ash]

I'm back faggots.

Necrolord, I'm glad to see that you got your asshole torn assunder by the forum. A few other people pointed out what I did (i.e. France didn't give the U.S. their constitution.) and you also got torn apart by a few Yankees. This whole post is just about you trying to rip on Americans so you can feel better abou your tiny penis. Btw, that "I took a hurp durp elective in college." is the most pathetic thing I have ever read on a fourm. You didn't graduate, you're currently unemployed, and you have nothing better to do than post e-peen threads entitled "X all the Y. How my/my team's penis is bigger than your/your team's penis." Necro, why dont you just bottom? A boy llike you is built for it. You love getting flamed and told you're worthless, you are probably 200 kilos of dorito based fat so you got the cushion for the pushin' and you live to suck cock.

FYI, I am not an American, so all that stuff you wrote about me being a horrible American living in a failed state is null and void. Your e-peen must be flacid by now...

I voted for France just becasue it is a better place to live according to the UN, not because of any patriotic reasons.

@Capitilier Why the fuck would you h8 on France for not wanting Turkey in the EU? That would flood the continent with even more dirty, moslem sand niggers who would burn all the books and cut all the cllits of little girls. As for providing cheap labour, that's what Greece is for. An entire nation of bankrupt future slaves to wash French and German windscreens for pennies.

1. Necro has the balls to talk about himself in front of worthless faggots like you.
2. Necro isn't worthless.
3. Necro isn't getting flamed. This thread was most likely for discussion and not trolling.

[FalseTruth]

This sums it up quite nicely.

[creedkingsx]

Didn't France come to your aid in the war of 1812?
Anyway France has too high taxes and too many muslims , it's up to 10-15% muslim now.

Not really, they supplied us with weapons, sure, but it was more because they didn't want England to become more powerful by gaining all the land they would have obtained from the war. If England had won, they would easily have been able to progressively take over the world from there, regardless if that was their intention.

[CrimsonFrost]

Lets Not Forget the Napoleanic Wars Where Napolean Kinda Rolled All Over Europe and only ended because of the same reason Hitler did the Russian Winter

[Necrolord]

i voted no because france doesn't want turkey in the eu
true story

also plato

I don't want Turkey in the EU either. They are practically still an Islamic state. Did you know they practiced "virginity testing" on women until like 1999? That means the police would raid schools, hospitals, and anyone they suspect of not being a virgin would be taken to the hospital to be forcibly opened up to "have a look-see". Some younger schoolgirls took rat poison to avoid it.

Turkey also refuses to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide even took place, whereas everyone else does. Turkey has also persecuted Kurds in their country.

[Blazer]

This generations tally USA 1 -- Obama..I mean Osama 0

Total tally:
France - hasn't fought yet so score is undetermined lol

[Nick]

This generations tally USA 1 -- Obama..I mean Osama 0

Total tally:
France - hasn't fought yet so score is undetermined lol

Again provided arms to Libya. They do like proxy wars don't they?

[Blazer]

Again provided arms to Libya. They do like proxy wars don't they?

Mhm.

Oh and about the american revolution, I am grateful to france since I can now live as I am, but remember france got land out of the deal and were able to use our revolution to their advantage. Remember Great Britain was their number one enemy.

[Guardian]

uhhh no.
1) USA economy Waaaayyyyyyy bigger than France's.

2) USA big. France small.
nuff said.

This is like comparing Switzerland with Italy.

[CmG]

Wrong Switzerland is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy richer then Italy and is still smaller. Thanks to the banking system in Switzerland. No its not their silly chocolate or cheese...

[BJPage]

No, it is not better, it is by far worse.

-French Men Smell and Sound Stupid
-French are losing their language to english
-French failed so many wars. Indochina, ww1, ww2...
-French lost Quebec...

-France's history has shown the government is afraid of their people, whereas in the U.S, the people fear their government. DISAGREED
-French food is considered the best in the world only by the retarded french ppl
-France gave the U.S the Statue of Liberty so fucking what?

You are comparing a 16 trillion GDP country with a 3 trillion GDP country, you must be challenged.

[Deathfire123]

Where's the [Insert my Country here] Option?

[Blazer]

Where's the [Insert my Country here] Option?

What about canada? USA still wins!
Btw just recognized your avatar picture the other day. Very nice. Just recently got into that story.

[Deathfire123]

What about canada? USA still wins!
Btw just recognized your avatar picture the other day. Very nice. Just recently got into that story.

Twas meant to be a joke that flew right over your head

[Blazer]

Twas meant to be a joke that flew right over your head

Or was my sarcasm too much for you hehe. Nah I missed it, sometimes I'm a little slow ^^ hard to see sarcasm in text too..I wasn't being sarcastic about your pic tho.
And on another note, USA beats all other countries

[creedkingsx]

If I were a warden I would lock every single one of Necro's thread's because they are just troll troughs and flame wars. Stupidest shit ever.

If he wanted a flame war, he wouldn't have had a poll

[Bruno]

The U.S. hasn't fled it's own soil 213432908234 times.

Our tanks go faster forwards than when in reverse, on the contrary to French tanks xD

[creedkingsx]

The U.S. hasn't fled it's own soil 213432908234 times.

Our tanks go faster forwards than when in reverse, on the contrary to French tanks xD

In France's defense, we have never had Germany right next to us for us to get surprise butt sex from

[Blazer]

In France's defense, we have never had Germany right next to us for us to get surprise butt sex from

No but we marched into their nation, ripped off the nazi flag, trampled all of the nazi regime, taught them a lesson, a good butt whoopen, while transporting our troops half way around the world. we didn't have the luxury of proximity. this is also after we took down japan.
we also stormed the beach of Normandy, I think that is bigger than having Germany next to you. (no i'm not anti-french)

[creedkingsx]

No but we marched into their nation, ripped off the nazi flag, trampled all of the nazi regime, taught them a lesson, a good butt whoopen, while transporting our troops half way around the world. we didn't have the luxury of proximity. this is also after we took down japan.
we also stormed the beach of Normandy, I think that is bigger than having Germany next to you. (no i'm not anti-french)

D-day was a lot of luck. The person in charge of organizing all the troops to defend the waterfront across the north of Europe assumed we would attack from a completely different location and focused the bulk of the troops elsewhere from where we attacked. Also, we delayed our attack 3 days due to weather and on that third day that guy, I really wish I could remember his name, took a day vacation to see his family since we hadn't attacked for three days figuring that we weren't coming on that day since the weather was just as bad as the other days. Only reason we did attack was because we really couldn't afford to delay the attack. Oh, and Canada helped in the attack xD CANADA WAS USEFUL!

[Blazer]

Yeah i think the british pplz helped too. But it wasn't luck. It was the American spirit my friend.

[Bruno]

Not luck, you tool. It's called espionage. We created fake troops out of styrofoam and Hitler bought it. Creedkingsx, how many times has America, since becoming an independent nation, had to have it's HQ based in another country because it got roflstomped in a war?

[Blazer]

Creedkingsx, how many times has America, since becoming an independent nation, had to have it's HQ based in another country because it got roflstomped in a war?

+1

[creedkingsx]

Not luck, you tool. It's called espionage. We created fake troops out of styrofoam and Hitler bought it. Creedkingsx, how many times has America, since becoming an independent nation, had to have it's HQ based in another country because it got roflstomped in a war?

had to? Twice, like I said in a earlier post, WWI and WWII. ^^v