S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Upon thinking about it I don't think I want to put Lovely Bug in my PoE because they had no reason to softclear Tiny Sandwich if they were wolf.

[FM-Fast Fish]

@FM-Ryast Why didn't you vote Wasteland here then?

Ryast's Incognito progression from D1

Follow these posts Iris.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Aliens- By all accounts should not be alive. Snail supposedly used a death note on them but they are alive. Looks like it may have been redirected.

Angry Clown- Low poster coaster. Hasn't contributed much in thread in last several days. Better than dirty harry but I don't remember anything they've said.

Dirty Harry- Low poster coaster. Hasn't contributed much in thread since, like, day one.

Fast Fish- Presumably left alive because he pushed a miselim on mountain tops and there were slower fish to fry.

Lady- Presumably left alive because I've been on the wrong side of every elim since day one.

Lovely Bug- Low poster coaster. Claimed mech-related townread on Tiny Sandwich prior to their death.

My Plants- ...I'm not sure why you're alive. I'll let you fill in this blank @FM-My Plants

Orange Iris- Left alive because they have a strong wolfread on me and because the mech we've seen from them has painted their role as kind of a weak one.

Raincoat Cat- Low poster coaster.

Ryast- Left alive because I can't remember a single thing this slot ever did, presumably?

Smug Viking- Supposedly might've tanked a night kill? Hard cleared by Happy Drunk prior to his death. Probably the target of tonights night kill barring protection shenanigans.

Zoomer Power- Low poster coaster. Softcleared by Wine Mom.

Low poster coaster

Minimum posts per day should be 150.

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

and I also don't know about how death from the Death Note could be avoided, it's a day action in general, and it doesn't inflict wounds, it clearly says it's death

IIRC snail said they couldnt use it the day they received it and had to wait until night

The only thing I can say is that Lady vs Mom confrontationg gives me Lady as top 2 scumread after Aliens.

Why would wolf me elim lolcat instead of snail d2? You can look back at my progression I could've easily justified moving over to snail. The guy was actively baiting me into voting for him. Snail was the higher value target for wolves, I was active at EoD2 and I could've made the switch at any point before or during that final hour.

If I had to answer that for you (and I will) I'd say that it have to be that I had mech knowledge that aliens would live the death note. I am a roleblocker but wine mom confirmed that I targeted her N2 so my action is accounted for, so I couldn't have prevented the death note from going off. It would have to be something baked into aliens role that prevents them from dying to it- which is very convenient because we should be learning their role today. In that case, wouldn't I be cleared if aliens flips and turns out to have zero built in night immunity?

Please, correct me if you disagree with any of this.

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Minimum posts per day should be 150.

Take a sniff of some of what snail had and drop a nice 250+ posts a day

[FM-Raincoat Cat]

I think Orange is spewed town?
thats my only confident read

admittly been lazy and havent read into plants/fish/bug/ryast/zoomer recently

Iirc i had fish as town but Idr what to say for them anymore cuz d3 was very werid for them.

Plants had a reason to be clear? But idr what it is

Spewed from Incognito?
And what about Fish's d3 did you not like?

[FM-Raincoat Cat]

Plants is likely town, was on Wasteland and Snippy at different times.
Iris is probably town from trying that FPS stuff earlier.
Clown is probably just a funny clown.


Alien
Zoomer
Ryast
Bug
Harry

In that order, probably would be my solve here.

Talk a little about the ordering and why (aside from Alien)? Any more detailed thoughts on Clown you could share?

[FM-Orange Iris]

Follow these posts Iris.

Thank you.

[FM-Orange Iris]

Why would wolf me elim lolcat instead of snail d2? You can look back at my progression I could've easily justified moving over to snail. The guy was actively baiting me into voting for him. Snail was the higher value target for wolves, I was active at EoD2 and I could've made the switch at any point before or during that final hour.

If I had to answer that for you (and I will) I'd say that it have to be that I had mech knowledge that aliens would live the death note. I am a roleblocker but wine mom confirmed that I targeted her N2 so my action is accounted for, so I couldn't have prevented the death note from going off. It would have to be something baked into aliens role that prevents them from dying to it- which is very convenient because we should be learning their role today. In that case, wouldn't I be cleared if aliens flips and turns out to have zero built in night immunity?

Please, correct me if you disagree with any of this.

What's the point was in roleblocking Mom?

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

What's the point was in roleblocking Mom?

I thought she was a wolf.

[FM-Orange Iris]

If I had to answer that for you (and I will) I'd say that it have to be that I had mech knowledge that aliens would live the death note. I am a roleblocker but wine mom confirmed that I targeted her N2 so my action is accounted for, so I couldn't have prevented the death note from going off.

We know for a fact that the mafia had some way to change the target for the Death Note: Aliens survived. We don't know that way, but if you're mafia, you knew for sure that if that sheet fell into town's hands, the mafia had some kind of counterplay.

[FM-Orange Iris]

I thought she was a wolf.

Or you, knowing that you and her are in the same pair for my abilities, deliberately tried to confuse my feedback.

[FM-Orange Iris]

Ryast's Incognito progression from D1

I reread these posts. They look convincing.

I also tried to reread and understand why it was so important to Mom whether I could be redirected. Either I'm not thinking clearly at midnight, or I'm just stupid, but I didn't understand what the information that my abilities could only be redirected from one member of the pair to the other gave us.

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Or you, knowing that you and her are in the same pair for my abilities, deliberately tried to confuse my feedback.

I have/had no idea that your abilities require you to target a specific pair of people. As far as I knew up until literally right now you picked both of us out of your own free will.

[FM-Orange Iris]

I have/had no idea that your abilities require you to target a specific pair of people.

I told about that just after messaging night.

As far as I knew up until literally right now you picked both of us out of your own free will.

Yes, I picking pairs freely, and I can add one more pair every day. But I told that choosing a new pair doesn't cancel the old one: All of my abilities directed at Mom already apply to you by the end of the game, and vice versa.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Talk a little about the ordering and why (aside from Alien)? Any more detailed thoughts on Clown you could share?

No, you should tell me about Clown.

[FM-Orange Iris]

We know for a fact that the mafia had some way to change the target for the Death Note: Aliens survived. We don't know that way, but if you're mafia, you knew for sure that if that sheet fell into town's hands, the mafia had some kind of counterplay.

Okey, there was no response to this. Pointed it, I going to bed. See you tomorrow.

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

We know for a fact that the mafia had some way to change the target for the Death Note: Aliens survived. We don't know that way, but if you're mafia, you knew for sure that if that sheet fell into town's hands, the mafia had some kind of counterplay.

We don't know that they changed the target. We just know aliens survived.

Again I ask why I would choose to keep snail alive over lolcat if I were wolf

[FM-Raincoat Cat]

No, you should tell me about Clown.

My thoughts about clown you can find here.

[FM-Raincoat Cat]

If you disagree with me on Clown I'm interested in why (though it seems we agree). Just wondering if you had some points on clown that I didn't because I sometimes struggle to *keep* them as a townlean instead of like, "shoot last" POE due to how infrequently they post at times (which I know is unfair, but can't do much about it).

[FM-Zoomer Power]

FM-Smug Viking

FM-Raincoat Cat
FM-Orange Iris
FM-My Plants
FM-Dirty Harry

FM-Lovely Bug
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Lady of the Lake

FM-Ryast

FM-Angry Clown

FM-Aliens Are Real


this is the most accurate way I can show thread how I feel rn. it's kind of more nuanced than this, but I don't really have... that many colors to work with?

like... i think fast fish and lady of the lake are just barely above null and i like lovely bug more than them but not enough to put in the upper tier with the others
and also fm-ryast is just a huuuuuuge ? in my head

I think I'm being a little too lax with my townreads - but then again ,so many of them just feel like genuine catches. like, raincoat cat and dirty harry... those slots just resonate so well with me for two arguably really minor things

but i don't care i feel the read and so im gonna post it and yall will have to deal with it

aliens feels like just a wolf, honestly, i don't think I have to put much thought into it, thanks for the catch thread

on the other hand, I've found it hard to keep up with clown's posting beyond what feels like a townie attitude that STILL nags at me that it's just the way they're putting smiles in their posts with the little nose like :o)

It just pockets me and I hate it actively because it feels like a subconscious trick to make me lower my guard. never again. no. no. no. no. nonono

[FM-Zoomer Power]

Plants is likely town, was on Wasteland and Snippy at different times.
Iris is probably town from trying that FPS stuff earlier.
Clown is probably just a funny clown.


Alien
Zoomer
Ryast
Bug
Harry

In that order, probably would be my solve here.

to explain more on fish

i've doubled back on this being like

very slightly townie

i feel like it doesn't make all that much sense to just hold onto this for soooooooooo long against me

I'm kind of used to it, so it doesn't bother me all that much, but after having the whole wine mom thing and still holding me at gunpoint consistently is just... town being stubborn more than a wolf trying to do... something(?)

I've done the exact same thing before in the past, and when i look back in retrospect there were definitely signs I just missed because of how i was viewing the game at the moment and it's something i try to not let happen to me

I have a few memories of thinking earlygame for this slot wasn't as great but I also noted that I thought this slot was redeemed for bringing attention to viking d1 and putting a little bit of a magnifying glass there

[FM-Zoomer Power]

also making a separate post to bring special attention to my reason to townread dirty harry here

Spoiler : context :

Hi I’m prob shootings tiny
No one has explained to me why mountain is it so not doing that

Ryast and lady got bused by lolcat n1,

Purple saw White visit Ryast n1, but this should be impossible because white would visit lady instead.

Are we sure sports ball affected n1 at all?

who are we shooting exactly?

Moment

-ITA FM-Tiny Sandwich

i been asking why and no ones been saying it so *Shrug*

I asked like 3 times before :skull:

they did actually ask, so it seems, but honestly, I'm deferring to what I already said about it:

call me crazy but I didn’t ever see you ask but I therefore think this post is townie lol

straight dripping with arrogance like they’re upset nobody listen to them

which is something I don’t see wolves posting like that over

it’s one post it’s minor and afaik completely something that didn’t even happen so I don’t see why a wolf would think to post it

in context its slightly less townie but it had been like an hour or two since they had asked and they had asked two times while thread was developing on the topic (iirc?) so it makes sense to have been skimmed over and feel slighted, but I think a wolf would feel significantly less slighted and therefore significantly less likely to make those posts

[FM-Zoomer Power]

Hi I’m prob shootings tiny
No one has explained to me why mountain is it so not doing that

Ryast and lady got bused by lolcat n1,

Purple saw White visit Ryast n1, but this should be impossible because white would visit lady instead.

Are we sure sports ball affected n1 at all?

who are we shooting exactly?

Moment

-ITA FM-Tiny Sandwich

i been asking why and no ones been saying it so *Shrug*

I asked like 3 times before :skull:

straight dripping with arrogance like they’re upset nobody listen to them

which is something I don’t see wolves posting like that over

it’s one post it’s minor and afaik completely something that didn’t even happen so I don’t see why a wolf would think to post it

call me crazy but I didn’t ever see you ask but I therefore think this post is townie lol

Currently throwing away all my reads and starting over with only two exceptions (Sassy and Smug). But I won't be finished by EOD. So far I've made it through Aliens and Clown.

Spoiler : aliens :

Aliens Are Real - I feel a lot of nothing initially reading this ISO. p#569 is just weird, I don't know why they even posted this, it seems like they suspect Pink Slip of fishing for cat stuff for potentially wolfy/negative reasons? But the way it's worded is weird to me. FMPOV I'd have just posted something like "be careful claiming stuff like this" in response to Pink Slip, but if Aliens thought Pink Slip was a wolf it makes sense I guess? The case on p#575 is bad though. A lot of it is like "this could be what happened" without actually explaining why. The wine mom read stuff is fine, but stuff like 477 feels more like having a conclusion already and working toward it than anything else. In particular I think it's really weird to just call out townreading someone that scumreads you as wolfy because town usually OMGUS and it's unnatural to do otherwise. Overall bad push but I guess it's fine early game? With hindsight it's not a good look though especially since Pink Slip got N1'd. Apparently according to p#590 it's a RT, but ehhh don't really like it. The inconsistency in stated reads part of the push is fine, noticed some of that myself trying to look at Pink's legacy. Pushing lurkers I think is fine on p#600, not really anything noteworthy or amazing from Alien pushes though. p#604 looks bad in hindsight but maybe too much hindsight being applied there. Should maybe look at who all is excluded if Aliens flips red. Aliens seems to have a playstyle disconnect from most of the thread? As mentioned in p#1132 and I recall seeing it in other posts of theirs, not really a read just a note. Disconnection from thread is usually more wolfy than not though when you have an active player. p#1146 is good, shows that Aliens is actually reading and the reads seem to line up with their thoughts expressed earlier. What I dislike about it is the reads seem very... robotic? Think Aliens plays this game very differently from how I do. I like the sentiment in p#1148 but the fact that Aliens didn't follow up on it and instead only came back to park on Bosun looks bad. I'd have liked to see Aliens make a push on someone they scumread more than Bosun (based on their read list in p#1146) rather than just follow wagons like they said they didn't want, very opportune for a wolf to come in thread and park on Bosun. Okay, after reading p#1817 I think what I dislike about Alien's reads is that the ISO summaries seem to be more IIOA than anything else, not really but like, a lot of words committed to summarizing things that I don't think matter, and even though these are reads on lurkers it doesn't feel like actual thoughts and more of like, "have to hit the 500 word quota on these slots". p#1852 I actually didn't remember pink slip was the cat must die role so good catch from Alien. Alien putting Wasteland (who they said had a horrible EOD but didn't commit to a scumread necessarily) third on the shotlist with likely 4 other villagers is a really bad look in p#1931. Like if you look at my back and forth with them about GCR I don't see why that slot and Green Nya are above Wasteland who Alien says is scum or detrimental town? p#2668 is good I think but I really don't understand how Aliens is choosing which lurking slots to focus on? This post is probably based on who people aren't reading? Good look though considering Snippy was a wolf. Interaction in p#2692 potentially unpairing at a low level. p#2727 is pretty wolfy actually saying Incognito isn't worth shooting despite mentioning their absolutely awful reads list and putting nothing slots on shot lists instead? Maybe I give some leeway because they were on the CFD for Wasteland (wolf KP) but still I think looks really bad. Constantly also trying to discredit the Pink Slip legacy idea for the sake of Incognito? (p#2743) Snail also makes a point about this in p#2769 about Incognito and also soft defending Wasteland (saying they could be a wolf LHF push). Also agree with snail that forming a chat and not just plopping your townreads in there is super odd unless there is some sort of mechanical reason for it. Because it's KRC specifically I'm not going to bother worrying myself over it. p#2888 feels like they want someone else to OMGUS snail for them after snail made some valid points, feels slimy. p#4048 is wolfy or just antitown in general I think, to question before endgame when a flipped town has a town confirm via masonry on someone else. Dunno what to think of the whole "snail is killing me, must be a wolf" like p#4525, I can see it from a normal player's POV (such as mine that's definitely what I would do, and kinda what I'm kicking myself for doing with wine mom), but Alien seems more calculating and I would expect an approach to attempt to solve with Snail instead? And Alien's next four posts are hella shade on Snail. Snail kill is bad but apparently they were in a chat so I'd like more context on what was said there to result in that shot, the wine mom shot is also not good, even with them being busy IRL. The fact that they pop in for ITA and then out and don't stay to analyze the situation either before or after rubs me the wrong way.

Spoiler : clown :

Angry Clown - liked the reads in p#962, the reasoning is sound, wish there was more of a definite conclusion (explicitly stating scumlean or such) on some of the reads, especially Wasteland. Need more context for p#967, too little too late for me to ask. p#981 about bosun also don't like that this was so hedgy, all of clown's explained reads seem to sit on the fence, could be just playstyle clash though since p#967 exists with a lot of townreads and open invitation to be asked about them. Still would rather they're explained outright but I get it. Unvoting DH because they saw more content is good, but voting Dew for the flashwagon (who Clown didn't seem to have a read on) over Wasteland (who last I checked they disliked) in p#1507 looks bad. Interestingly Purple felt the same way about Clown's EOD1 that I did on p#1631. To give clown some credit based on their response in p#1637, I don't know if Wasteland was really a viable wagon for Clown to try and push, this site doesn't seem to have a retrospective VC system and can't be bothered to collect the votes. Okay, nevermind, Clowns did vote Wasteland and I forgot about it, this slot is probably just town. p#1693 and p#1722 in tandem imo are enough for me to put Clown into townread. Response to me in p#3239 is good actually I think, wolf clowns can just go "shut up idiot I voted Wasteland over Bosun and Dew" but their response feels genuine. They do drop off content wise D2 though. Coming into D3 with p#4743 I like actually, iirc Purple/Ryast/DH were relatively not included in discussion. I really don't like the mech "poking" they do in posts like p#4900 where they ask a question about some inconsistency they find, definitely playstyle diff but I'd like if I saw more of Clown's original thoughts rather than asking people to explain things and such. And Clown has not posted much D2 or D3, making me feel less good about them compared to reading their EOD1 which is pretty townsided. I'd like to put Clown at the highest level POE (not priority) or lowest townleans, and probably need them to explain their current reads to me or realtime with them to get a better idea.

I don't usually make big posts and this is just notes I wrote for myself with the idea that I'd eventually post them later, but here's what I think so far. TLDR, I need to interact with Clown more (they have dropped off content wise and I'd like to know more about their reads and reasonings, EOD1 vote is good), and I think Aliens has potential to be a powerwolf, I think they should be ITA'd if they don't to the death note tonight.

yi
fm-raincoat cat

i love you but come on I have to read these posts sometimes you know

[FM-Zoomer Power]

oh wtf i forgot it copies the quotes again

[FM-Zoomer Power]

Unvoting DH because they saw more content is good, but voting Dew for the flashwagon (who Clown didn't seem to have a read on) over Wasteland (who last I checked they disliked) in p#1507 looks bad. Interestingly Purple felt the same way about Clown's EOD1 that I did on p#1631. To give clown some credit based on their response in p#1637, I don't know if Wasteland was really a viable wagon for Clown to try and push, this site doesn't seem to have a retrospective VC system and can't be bothered to collect the votes. Okay, nevermind, Clowns did vote Wasteland and I forgot about it, this slot is probably just town.

its funny that you chose to leave this in and add a sentence about having gone through a different process then just be like

"nah actually i missed something im wrong"

actually makes me vibe with you more. because i believe you in that you actually thought this and noted other related things along the wrong thought path (from PURPLE, too! so it wouldn't have been in an iso, I don't think, so you did actual research here!)

but you buried something like this so deep in lines of text u cant do that to me i'm a ZOOMER for a reason

[FM-Zoomer Power]

FM-Lovely Bug
FM-Lady of the Lake

honing in on this one (and ryast, but this one for this post explicitly) here I want to see reasoning others have because this one is also a big ? for me here -- I remember some posts they made about another slot I think being somehow related to them and the attitude they showed there being like
slightly good, and thinking the slot just was townie for a gut reason I can't really explain, so i want to hear what others have to say here

[FM-Zoomer Power]

-vote FM-Aliens Are Real

[FM-Zoomer Power]

Upon thinking about it I don't think I want to put Lovely Bug in my PoE because they had no reason to softclear Tiny Sandwich if they were wolf.

this^ was what i was vaguely remembering in that other post

i want to talk to you though - tell me about the slots you were referring to as low poster coaster. especially dirty harry and lovely bug. those two I feel like (apart from what's already in this post) could get somewhere

[FM-Zoomer Power]

hmmm im really trying to be transparent here -- both about my blind spots which are the ?s ive highlighted and the reason i really think a lot of slots are just town -- but I just have no idea what else I'm supposed to add here?

that earlier list wasn't ordered within tiers btw

[FM-Zoomer Power]

to explain more on fish

i've doubled back on this being like

very slightly townie

i feel like it doesn't make all that much sense to just hold onto this for soooooooooo long against me

I'm kind of used to it, so it doesn't bother me all that much, but after having the whole wine mom thing and still holding me at gunpoint consistently is just... town being stubborn more than a wolf trying to do... something(?)

I've done the exact same thing before in the past, and when i look back in retrospect there were definitely signs I just missed because of how i was viewing the game at the moment and it's something i try to not let happen to me

I have a few memories of thinking earlygame for this slot wasn't as great but I also noted that I thought this slot was redeemed for bringing attention to viking d1 and putting a little bit of a magnifying glass there

(oh yeah and fish i want to ask you... like, why are you still so stuck on my slot being a wolf? i think we can hash it out and be bros and everything's good)

(fish sticks don't even taste that good)

[FM-Zoomer Power]

I think Orange is spewed town?
thats my only confident read

admittly been lazy and havent read into plants/fish/bug/ryast/zoomer recently

Iirc i had fish as town but Idr what to say for them anymore cuz d3 was very werid for them.

Plants had a reason to be clear? But idr what it is

if i put a gun to yo head what would u think about every slot in the game

not allowed to put anyone in null

[FM-Fast Fish]

(oh yeah and fish i want to ask you... like, why are you still so stuck on my slot being a wolf? i think we can hash it out and be bros and everything's good)

(fish sticks don't even taste that good)

Have you done anything mechanically significant this game?

[FM-Fast Fish]

Like besides shooting Wssted?

[FM-Dirty Harry]

Aliens- By all accounts should not be alive. Snail supposedly used a death note on them but they are alive. Looks like it may have been redirected.

Angry Clown- Low poster coaster. Hasn't contributed much in thread in last several days. Better than dirty harry but I don't remember anything they've said.

Dirty Harry- Low poster coaster. Hasn't contributed much in thread since, like, day one.

Fast Fish- Presumably left alive because he pushed a miselim on mountain tops and there were slower fish to fry.

Lady- Presumably left alive because I've been on the wrong side of every elim since day one.

Lovely Bug- Low poster coaster. Claimed mech-related townread on Tiny Sandwich prior to their death.

My Plants- ...I'm not sure why you're alive. I'll let you fill in this blank @FM-My Plants

Orange Iris- Left alive because they have a strong wolfread on me and because the mech we've seen from them has painted their role as kind of a weak one.

Raincoat Cat- Low poster coaster.

Ryast- Left alive because I can't remember a single thing this slot ever did, presumably?

Smug Viking- Supposedly might've tanked a night kill? Hard cleared by Happy Drunk prior to his death. Probably the target of tonights night kill barring protection shenanigans.

Zoomer Power- Low poster coaster. Softcleared by Wine Mom.

Snort
Coasting sure maybe, if you consider coasting as just being here
Hasn’t done anything since d1? Big fat lie

[FM-Dirty Harry]

if i put a gun to yo head what would u think about every slot in the game

not allowed to put anyone in null

Gun to head
I don’t trust lady, sr

I think I trust rain as town
Orange is conf town to me
Clown gth town
Aliens I’ve felt some weird moments + the way they tried to organize itas felt scummy d2 didn’t voice it then which I should have but alas
Fish gth town
Bug gth scum
Plants gth town
Ryast gth scum
You gth town

[FM-Orange Iris]

All is quiet in our woods....

-vote FM-Aliens Are Real

[FM-Angry Clown]

freed from the confines of my god awful schedule

hi hi hello!! :o)

[FM-Angry Clown]

voting Aliens in spirit though I dont particularly want to put them to L-1 right now :o)

[FM-My Plants]

FM-Smug Viking

FM-Raincoat Cat
FM-Orange Iris
FM-My Plants
FM-Dirty Harry

FM-Lovely Bug
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Lady of the Lake

FM-Ryast

FM-Angry Clown

FM-Aliens Are Real


this is the most accurate way I can show thread how I feel rn. it's kind of more nuanced than this, but I don't really have... that many colors to work with?

like... i think fast fish and lady of the lake are just barely above null and i like lovely bug more than them but not enough to put in the upper tier with the others
and also fm-ryast is just a huuuuuuge ? in my head

I think I'm being a little too lax with my townreads - but then again ,so many of them just feel like genuine catches. like, raincoat cat and dirty harry... those slots just resonate so well with me for two arguably really minor things

but i don't care i feel the read and so im gonna post it and yall will have to deal with it

aliens feels like just a wolf, honestly, i don't think I have to put much thought into it, thanks for the catch thread

on the other hand, I've found it hard to keep up with clown's posting beyond what feels like a townie attitude that STILL nags at me that it's just the way they're putting smiles in their posts with the little nose like :o)

It just pockets me and I hate it actively because it feels like a subconscious trick to make me lower my guard. never again. no. no. no. no. nonono

Thanks, I think this is where we're at and I'm willing to trust you and this.
I'm sorry that I've been lacking so far this week. I've had too many balls in the air and it's not really changing right now.

Your read list is pretty much exactly where my mind is, except I have Ryast at the bottom. I see no reason for w!him to bus Wastelands if not to go deeper, implying he has a more important role than most other wolves. I would prefer going there today but will sheep you and smug to make sure that we go together.

[FM-My Plants]

At least I think most/all town are voting together already, I might vote early due to not being able to be here at EoD and to make sure wolves can't snipe us, but I don't want day to end right now.

[FM-Angry Clown]

Fast Fish
Lovely Bug
My Plants
Orange Iris
Raincoat Cat
Smug Viking
Zoomer Power

rolling with these from yesterday gives me:

Lady/Harry/Ryast/Alien? I think?

Gut feeling I'm *not sure* that works but nothing specifically unpairing for this solve comes to mind either, would like to look into it a little more.

[FM-Angry Clown]

Gun to head
I don’t trust lady, sr

I think I trust rain as town
Orange is conf town to me
Clown gth town
Aliens I’ve felt some weird moments + the way they tried to organize itas felt scummy d2 didn’t voice it then which I should have but alas
Fish gth town
Bug gth scum
Plants gth town
Ryast gth scum
You gth town

Starting here with unpairing; DH having the same solve as me feels good, could specifically be distancing for a 'what-if' world - assuming the names I gave are right which *shrug* - but doesnt really feel like it, would anticipate something more substantiated in that world?

[FM-Smug Viking]

okay my obligations over the past few days have finally ended and I will consequentially be much more active in this game, my apologies

this was a lie

im a little concerned about this flipping due to modkill

[FM-Smug Viking]

I'm probably gonna die today so I'm gonna try to at least post my reads before I die, and ngl i do wanna die because I think the town is probably better off without me so they can attempt to solve

[FM-Smug Viking]

This is my top 4 townreads I wouldnt consider them until we get into like final 5-6 to figure out if they are too deep in. I would focus on flipping others first and then make a new readlist since they probably will spew partners since the game started. If alien is flipping red, and my hunch about 5 mafia left is correct, then I would say 4 of them are probably in the orange, but its possible theres 1 mafia in green too.

If Aliens do flip red, ISO him tomorrow on his first 2 days. He probably attempted to cover for his partners Day 3 and 4 since he knew he was dying.

FM-Orange Iris
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Zoomer Power
FM-Lovely Bug

FM-Dirty Harry
FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-My Plants
FM-Angry Clown
FM-Ryast
FM-Raincoat Cat

FM-Aliens are Real

[FM-Angry Clown]

This is my top 4 townreads I wouldnt consider them until we get into like final 5-6 to figure out if they are too deep in. I would focus on flipping others first and then make a new readlist since they probably will spew partners since the game started. If alien is flipping red, and my hunch about 5 mafia left is correct, then I would say 4 of them are probably in the orange, but its possible theres 1 mafia in green too.

If Aliens do flip red, ISO him tomorrow on his first 2 days. He probably attempted to cover for his partners Day 3 and 4 since he knew he was dying.

FM-Orange Iris
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Zoomer Power
FM-Lovely Bug

FM-Dirty Harry
FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-My Plants
FM-Angry Clown
FM-Ryast
FM-Raincoat Cat

FM-Aliens are Real

Can I grab your thoughts on Raincoat/Plants quickly? :oO

[FM-Smug Viking]

This is my top 4 townreads I wouldnt consider them until we get into like final 5-6 to figure out if they are too deep in. I would focus on flipping others first and then make a new readlist since they probably will spew partners since the game started. If alien is flipping red, and my hunch about 5 mafia left is correct, then I would say 4 of them are probably in the orange, but its possible theres 1 mafia in green too.

If Aliens do flip red, ISO him tomorrow on his first 2 days. He probably attempted to cover for his partners Day 3 and 4 since he knew he was dying.

FM-Orange Iris
FM-Fast Fish
FM-Zoomer Power
FM-Lovely Bug

FM-Dirty Harry
FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-My Plants
FM-Angry Clown
FM-Ryast
FM-Raincoat Cat

FM-Aliens are Real

My reads aren't in order, i just grouped them up together in no order, so dont consider dirty harry > raincoat

[FM-Smug Viking]

Can I grab your thoughts on Raincoat/Plants quickly? :oO

yea sure gimme a sec to write up my thoughts

[FM-Smug Viking]

My Plants - Entered the game and said "dont expect anything towny for me" is a weird post to make the first hour of game start.

they made a lot of reads across day 1 but i feel like their reads are mostly noncontroversial reads, and there are more reads from day 1 are living players right now than people that flipped so far such as reads on Clown, Ryast, Lady of the Lake, so I think if this is a wolf, its very possible they were making reads on their partners early on.

I do like them being on wasteland but at this point we have to consider if mafia bussed or not because mafia flipped forever ago and a lot of players that are still alive were pushing the mafia that flipped, which meant that mafia bussed someone somewhere. If they are town, they are attempting to solve the game, but theyre kinda doing it quietly.

I just feel like this is more likely mafia due to blending in too good and being lowkey in the game.