unfortunately I am not an endgame carry player, and my reads have been sucking ass past day
unfortunately I am not an endgame carry player, and my reads have been sucking ass past day
Not sure how I am alive. Can only assume Snail ended up killing Purple. Would mean the factional was on Sassy and Jiraffe is just out of place. I feel like that specific kill was to prevent me from sharing reads as a confirmed town and now wolves are trying to push for my lynch.
Something of note N2 Jiraffe claimed they were going to RB someone. I never did get an answer as to who and they did not trust me. Purple also claimed to RB someone but never said who. One of those two very likely did the factional kill N2 if anyone has that info from a hood chat or something.
Mountain Tops did post in my chat last night. Basically drew the conclusion that Purple was scum which did not turn out to be correct. I have not herd from Jiraffe yet, did ask who they role blocked and if they did one of the kills but I won't get an answer until N4.
Really feels like a bullshit wolf push on me. People saying it was scummy for me to ITA Wine Mom without saying anything. I posted this earlier that day.
I was very clear that I would not have time to participate in thread and exactly what my intention was and absolutely nobody had any issue with it. Then the flip happens and people act like I was not the 4th or 5th person to take a shot at Wine Mom and that I bear sole responsibility for that outcome. Its pretty scummy to frame it like I was lurking about saying nothing then just dropped a wordless shot on them.
I really do think the Jiraffe kill was nothing more than an effort to silence me when I could flip and be confirmed town. I also think the Mountain Tops lynch was nothing more than an effort to burn through town ITA's today. Objectively awful lynch target for the second day in a row independent of flip. Train that generated no information on a player with 6 wounds.
Will read through and see what I can grab. It seems scum do not want to give me the option to speak as confirmed town in this game.
I feel like the focus on the Pictionary is unnecessary. At a time when we should be making reads and solving instead we are burning time trying to break down some picture explaining someone elses reads.
There is zero reason a player can not simply post their reads or claim actions at this point in the game. If anything I feel like its between scum trying to derail the town onto something that matters and scum pretending to solve while focusing on something that does not matter. Either way I think we should just ignore the picture.
Sorry everyone, life has been mopping the floor with me recently.
I'm assuming it is safe to consider Aliens as outed since they are not dead, unless someone claims to have saved them.
Still going through everyone in the game. I think DH is a villager, their D2 looks good and probably not from a wolf (could be if the wolf plan was to bus Snippy after Sassy Witch's mech but DH doesn't feel to fit that description as much as I feel they could just be V)
Spoiler : notes :
another textdump just some notes I wrote while reading the ISO to give my thoughts as I'm reading.
Forgive me for not knowing the mech on this so closely.
Wouldn't this mean someone either protected Aliens or somehow redirected/roleblocked/itemstole/etc Snail? Assuming Snail didn't just target someone else without saying anything, but I don't think there is a reason to do that.
let me look
I don't know if this can be protected, but it seems similar to what Orange Iris described as one of their abilities that can't be redirected. So I think one of 2 things happened:
1) Someone protected Aliens (or Aliens is immune to kills)
2) Someone prevented Snail from using the death note (RB or item steal or whatever)
This is KRC so there are other possibilities but I think these are the most likely, and both incredibly more frequent in W!Alien worlds, so I think they're just outed.
Alright, been 24 hours, everyone but Lovely Bugs checked in, and iirc, lovely bugs said her role would be useless after tiny sandwich die.
I'm just gonna go ahead and vote Aliens now since I don't want people "afk" so close to EoD and not vote.
-vote FM-Aliens are Real
Aliens are Real is definitely MVP of this game for mafia, he successfully killed off all the top towns and made the thread dead silent, he definitely contribute so much more to the mafia than anybody else
FM-Magic 8-Ball is the mayor with 99 votes.
Today we have learned that resetting the votecount does not reset who the mayor is.
My apologies for the inconvenience.
-unvote
weee
-vote FM-Aliens are Real
god gives his busiest schedule to his silliest soldier :o(
Nah. Mountain had scum equity by virtue of role alone and they'd tell you that themselves, so I think you're deflecting on that one. They set a wagon on Snail and put him into a situation where we had to move it to lolcat while we still tried to get himself killed. On top of that, a Zoomer lynch would have been preferable to Snail, Lady and Mountain but we never communicated enough to get there. Maybe that part was my fault, idk.
The players that moved it to Lolcat only had to ignore the thread or say "boom bye snail" if they were wolves. They didn't, and we actually derailed a mislynch on a vocal town with killing power and onto a town slot with questionable utility who easily could have been 3p off of KRC role meta.
I'm not sure what happened to Snail's kill honestly. Easiest explanation is they lied and did something else.
That was his legacy read. 3 of them flipped green. If Lady or Smug are Mafia, sorry I concede the game. That leaves you. I think he saw Lolcat's flip and reconsidered to someone else.Mafia
FM-Aliens Are Real
FM-Purple Forest
FM-Mountain Tops
FM-Gay Cat Rock
FM-Lady of the Lake
I’m so mentally drained
If aliens flips scum prob Ryast next
Honestly if town!alien didn't have the time to play the game, idk why you shot there.
This might be why you did though. Lolcat flipped green. You assumed you were dead, so you shot Wine Mom with nothing to lose.If this flips green, I death Note Aliens. If this flips red, I death note Sandwich /shrug
And back to Snail's wagon at the prior EOD: Wolves would only have derailed that lynch if they knew Snail was lying and would shoot someone besides w!Alien. They couldn't have known this. Snail deceived the whole lobby and wolves lucked out basically. Slots like Lady, Clown, raincoat, are on the better end of that exchange.
Here is the D2 ITA:
FM-Lolcat (11):
FM-Snail Streamer, FM-Fast Fish, FM-Sassy Witch, FM-Lady of the Lake, FM-Jiraffe, FM-Mountain Tops, FM-Gay Cat Rock, FM-Angry Clown, FM-Raincoat Cat
FM-Snail Streamer (5):
FM-Ryast, FM-Purple Forest, FM-Dirty Harry, FM-White Square, FM-Aliens Are Real
FM-Gay Cat Rock (3):
FM-Wine Mom, FM-Smug Viking, FM-Happy Drunk
FM-Lady of the Lake (2):
FM-My Plants, FM-Lolcat
Not Voting (4):
FM-Lovely Bug, FM-Orange Iris, FM-Tiny Sandwich, FM-Zoomer Power
Either way, it's not a "3 people did it before me so that makes it k" situation. I think the shot on Wine Mom from Lady and obviously Mountain+White Square was fucking dumb.
But a look at Lady's play during Snail's lynch clears that slot up for me a lot. Mountain on the other hand, got what was coming to them, so it only makes sense to do the same here.
Recasting vote as per host request
-vote FM-Aliens Are Real
I will again restate that I am here for discussions if anyone has something to talk about. But this slot being alive means its a wolf.
We are going to kill Alien today. He is going to flip red. I declare myself, along with Lady and Smug town. That gives us a shot to save the game. Thats all I got.
-vote fm-aliens are real
Hopefully not celebrating.
My vote is on Alien in spirit.
I'd prefer no hammer if possible, I need as much time as I can to be able to put time into reconsidering everyone. Ping me if I'm needed.
My thoughts on these players haven't changed much since my VCA post here (which is too big to quote without clogging thread so I'm just linking it).
If aliens flips green and the game isn't over somehow then I'm hard pivoting to fast fish being wolf. I really don't think that will be the case but if I'm wrong I'll admit I've been outplayed. Otherwise I'm comfortable putting him in the town pile.
I particularly don't like that it's been 26 hours and we're yet to hear from Lovely Bug and Zoomer Power. On paper it supports a narrative that wolves are intentionally letting the thread die. In practice with these two it might just be NAI but to my knowledge we've at least had one post from each of them by this point every day.
I think Orange is spewed town?
thats my only confident read
admittly been lazy and havent read into plants/fish/bug/ryast/zoomer recently
Iirc i had fish as town but Idr what to say for them anymore cuz d3 was very werid for them.
Plants had a reason to be clear? But idr what it is
Smug(?)
Orange
Rain
prob my top 3 town atm
Can someone remind me why and how clown could be town again?
D1 VCA says Alien, Harry, Bugs, Zoomer, Ryast probably would be 5 scum. Obviously that scenario omits Lady/Smug.
Like, my vibe is that wolves are locking in now. They know who they want to die and how to make it easier, they know when they want to win
And while we're at a stage where town needs to work together, we also need to make sure to not play into wolves hands
Tldr game hard
Is there a list of everyone left and why they're alive
And what mech is still relevant
I think that's needed at this point
If Alien is town wolves won. Strictly speaking, he is always a wolf here.
You might be referring to players who might be wolves pivoting for tomorrow. Good news is (if we get to that point) we will likely have some sort of mechanical info and you can just toss every pivoting player's reads in the trash. That's what I'd do.
We're all in.
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Likely killing the wolf isn't enough, we need to kill the right wolves and threadstate tells me we are not doing that.
Aliens is a wolf and he does just enough to seem active but he's not acting like the game will end when he dies, he seems quite fine things considering
So we need to hunt more. I'm going to sleep but if I'm able I'll try to fight this gamestate a little
Sheeping Mom's reads (with a t!lady world): Alien, Ryast, Bug are a great PoE. Lady and Bug (heh) arent S/S. I'm not sure how airtight the mech with Zoomer was, I'm inclined to say it's whackier than WM thought.
That's about as much as I got tho plants.
Our frustrated radio is back on the air!
Let's take it for granted that Aliens is mafia. We need to discuss the next steps now. Mom was trying to get something out of the mechanics, but I'm not sure I understood her idea all the way through. What's more, the mechanics frustrate me the most right now: I don't know about the effectiveness of my defense ability (at least the host confirmed that I can't be redirected, which means the mafia couldn't use me to save Aliens), and I also don't know about how death from the Death Note could be avoided, it's a day action in general, and it doesn't inflict wounds, it clearly says it's death.
Honestly, without understanding the mechanics I can't analyze recent events and it's confusing me. I have a suspicion that some broken mechanic that breaks the usual mafia rules has gotten into the game after all, causing everything we know to work wrong.
The only thing I can say is that Lady vs Mom confrontationg gives me Lady as top 2 scumread after Aliens.
Aliens- By all accounts should not be alive. Snail supposedly used a death note on them but they are alive. Looks like it may have been redirected.Originally Posted by Living players as of right now
Angry Clown- Low poster coaster. Hasn't contributed much in thread in last several days. Better than dirty harry but I don't remember anything they've said.
Dirty Harry- Low poster coaster. Hasn't contributed much in thread since, like, day one.
Fast Fish- Presumably left alive because he pushed a miselim on mountain tops and there were slower fish to fry.
Lady- Presumably left alive because I've been on the wrong side of every elim since day one.
Lovely Bug- Low poster coaster. Claimed mech-related townread on Tiny Sandwich prior to their death.
My Plants- ...I'm not sure why you're alive. I'll let you fill in this blank @FM-My Plants
Orange Iris- Left alive because they have a strong wolfread on me and because the mech we've seen from them has painted their role as kind of a weak one.
Raincoat Cat- Low poster coaster.
Ryast- Left alive because I can't remember a single thing this slot ever did, presumably?
Smug Viking- Supposedly might've tanked a night kill? Hard cleared by Happy Drunk prior to his death. Probably the target of tonights night kill barring protection shenanigans.
Zoomer Power- Low poster coaster. Softcleared by Wine Mom.
I can find it in like 5 minutes. Playing Monster Hunter.