S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Orange Iris]

-vote FM-Purple Forest

Betrayal moment

What kind of anime is this? The public demands an explanation, and our radio is ready to give you five minutes of airtime!

[FM-Angry Clown]

I thought White Square had said a lot more than what they actually have

hm :oI

will actually write my thoughts there but. Hrm

[FM-Bosun]

If you're town I wish I could trust you on this, but what you're saying is simply not true.
Wolves doesn't go out of their way to save a megawagoned mate. Either they bus or they make sure to position themselves good after the yeet.

If you're not powerwolfing D1 of a game (especially a larger game) something is seriously wrong
Seeing a huge villa wagon like this and biting suspicion on anyone who dare oppose it is super indicative of a powerwolfed / wolf-controlled gamestate

[FM-Mountain Tops]

to elaborate:

- I think their town reads on people defending them like Great Speech aren't just because the slot is defending them, but rather because it's a townie approach to their slot.
- Elaborates on town reads for some consensus town slots, like Snail Streamer
- They're continuing to throw out reads while they're the top wagon by far. I know we're still a little over an hour from EOD but i think this a good look for Bosun overall, scum could easily just... stop posting (like talking about Fish, who is also widely townread from what I've gathered from the little I've read)

Do you get the impression Bosun is going over no matter what
Because (other than the first point), everything is normal for a wolf trying to save themselves

...A bit of me sideyes Lovely Bug for this

[FM-Mountain Tops]

...A bit of me sideyes Lovely Bug for this

regardless of Bosun's alignment, tbc

[FM-Pink Slip]

Agree on almost everything except (obviously myself) incognito. What have you seen from them that was fine? If you've already said somewhere lmk and I'll go find it.

i talked about it a while back with snail streamer, can't be bothered to find it right now.

[FM-Bosun]

Do you get the impression Bosun is going over no matter what
Because (other than the first point), everything is normal for a wolf trying to save themselves

...A bit of me sideyes Lovely Bug for this

Wow you've seen some really high effort wolves
Self meta alert but I'd just start catting if wolf tbh

[FM-Orange Iris]

someone took my spot as best comedian?

aw man :o(

If it turns out you end up unemployed, I can always offer you a co-hosting role on SSN Radio! A spacious armored glass radio booth, delicious food, and steady pay. Also health insurance and discounts on rent and carsharing!

[FM-Lovely Bug]

Do you get the impression Bosun is going over no matter what
Because (other than the first point), everything is normal for a wolf trying to save themselves

...A bit of me sideyes Lovely Bug for this

yeah i do get that impression

6 (8 with the presidential shit) and a decent amount of resistance to any counterwagons implies Bosun is going over anyway

[FM-Fast Fish]

Meow

[FM-Great Speech]

Do you get the impression Bosun is going over no matter what
Because (other than the first point), everything is normal for a wolf trying to save themselves

...A bit of me sideyes Lovely Bug for this

uuuuugh i get the feeling Mountain is lost town here. not scummy, but also probably wrong

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Good meowning everyone.

[FM-Mountain Tops]

@FM-Lady of the Lake hey can you summarize/link your case on Dew, and tell me how confident / not confident you are on it

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I'm happy with a bosun lunch.

-vote FM-Purple Forest

I think this makes the best CW, I haven't liked Purple forest and they seem to be a hot topic while catching up, I think we get a lot of information out of this one

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Meow

No I won’t let you be eaten by the other cats! The only person that can eat you is me!

[FM-Wine Mom]

FM-Bosun (: FM-Purple Forest, FM-Mountain Tops, FM-Jiraffe, FM-Aliens Are Real, FM-Wasteland, FM-White Square
FM-White Square (3): FM-Smug Viking, FM-Great Speech, FM-Dirty Harry
FM-Purple Forest (3): FM-Wine Mom, FM-Snail Streamer, FM-Zoomer Power
FM-Wasteland (2): FM-Pink Slip, FM-My Plants
FM-Jiraffe (2): FM-Snippy, FM-Happy Drunk


FM-Great Speech (1): FM-Bosun
FM-Mtn Dew Horse (1): FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-Zoomer Power (1): FM-Fast Fish
FM-Angry Clown (1):FM-Lolcat
FM-Mountain Tops (1): FM-Lovely Bug
FM-Green Nya (1): FM-Gay Cat Rock
FM-Dirty Harry (1): FM-Mtn Dew Horse
FM-Incognito (1): FM-Raincoat Cat

T-59 minutes

[FM-Lovely Bug]

like ok,

Bosun doesn't feel like they're throwing anything/everything they can think of at the wall to see what sticks, I see a logical progression behind their reads and what they're focusing on from various slots in the game

i feel like a wolf would have already talked about Purple Forest because it seems the last few pages have mentioned that slot as a potential CW to Bosun

[FM-Mountain Tops]

like ok,

Bosun doesn't feel like they're throwing anything/everything they can think of at the wall to see what sticks, I see a logical progression behind their reads and what they're focusing on from various slots in the game

i feel like a wolf would have already talked about Purple Forest because it seems the last few pages have mentioned that slot as a potential CW to Bosun

oh
This feels better

[FM-Wine Mom]

FM-Bosun (8): FM-Purple Forest, FM-Mountain Tops, FM-Jiraffe, FM-Aliens Are Real, FM-Wasteland, FM-White Square
FM-Purple Forest (4): FM-Wine Mom, FM-Snail Streamer, FM-Zoomer Power, FM-Happy Drunk
FM-White Square (3): FM-Smug Viking, FM-Great Speech, FM-Dirty Harry
FM-Wasteland (2): FM-Pink Slip, FM-My Plants


FM-Jiraffe (1): FM-Snippy
FM-Great Speech (1): FM-Bosun
FM-Mtn Dew Horse (1): FM-Lady of the Lake
FM-Zoomer Power (1): FM-Fast Fish
FM-Angry Clown (1):FM-Lolcat
FM-Mountain Tops (1): FM-Lovely Bug
FM-Green Nya (1): FM-Gay Cat Rock
FM-Dirty Harry (1): FM-Mtn Dew Horse
FM-Incognito (1): FM-Raincoat Cat

T-57 minutes

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I'm glad the viking vote thing has been cleared up, I'd like to point some amount of suspicion on Aliens, there was a post made earlier that seemed like an attempt to shut down communication from a lower effort, which I find scum indicative

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

yeah i do get that impression

6 (8 with the presidential shit) and a decent amount of resistance to any counterwagons implies Bosun is going over anyway

Do people actually think Bosun is evil or are they voting because they don’t know who to vote? When I was last here, it seemed ryast was the only person that actually thought so and they weren’t even voting Bosun.

[FM-Incognito]

I think Incognito has a bias for people doing gimmick so they inherently are scumreading you without actually looking at your content at all.

Which is still kinda scummy, but could lean more in playstyle choice/preference

Just curious, did you look at their content? I did and he has been coasting with his RP, making 3rd person general remarks about obvious things adding very little insight and no one bats an eye. Your streamer rp is annoying but at least you had some decent actual content - even if I don't necessarily agree with it.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Has ryast just not voted or where is their vote?

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I'm glad the viking vote thing has been cleared up, I'd like to point some amount of suspicion on Aliens, there was a post made earlier that seemed like an attempt to shut down communication from a lower effort slot, which I find scum indicative

a lower effort slot*

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

@FM-Lady of the Lake hey can you summarize/link your case on Dew, and tell me how confident / not confident you are on it

I am very confident that Horse is wolf. There's been tons of friction to his wagon. I also think he shares an alignment with Fast Fish, so info there is good.

It's difficult to express just how much I dislike this vote because it isn't just Mtn Dew Horse sheeping another voter on a wagon that feels a bit overrepresented (maybe overrepresented is the wrong word but I feel like there's too much pressure on Dirty Harry for not enough of a reason)

Mtn Dew Horse's ISO is full of one liners and declarations without significant analysis. Even the one townread they did make (which is on ME) had to be corrected because they had part of the circumstantial information wrong. He spends some time arguing with Fast Fish but if anything it almost feels like Mtn Dew Horse/Fast Fish is W/W which is NOT something I had considered before going back through his posts. Everything he said feels completely fabricated.



This post in particular right before MDH votes Fast Fish feels like such a nothingburger. It doesn't address anything in particular. It can be boiled down to "a wolf made this post" and "i didnt do that". It's such a noncommittal way of pushing somebody.

I really want to know why this wagon fizzled out now because I don't see any reason why the votes should have dispersed.

The final thought I intended to assert but then didn't because I forgot to proofread my post was that MDH does all of the exact same things he justifies voting Dirty Harry for. In the exact same post where he calls harry suspicious for hiding behind others he hides his own opinion behind Wine Mom's push.

You can click the blue arrows in the quote box to go back and read them in context.

[FM-Angry Clown]

I thought White Square had said a lot more than what they actually have

hm :oI

will actually write my thoughts there but. Hrm

lazily I'd like to buy the whole 'getting use out of my role' stuff and let them self resolve, but I fear that'd be a little silly for KRC :o(

There's not really much to them, though? And I wonder if it's a matter of time constraints. They have a similar issue to Harry though where a lot of their thoughts seem to originate from agreeing/disagreeing rather than putting anything forward. Was kinda surprised this was the case because for some reason I thought I had seen more from them than that?

I do kinda want to see what happens there and see if it *is* an issue of timing as they mentioned but also what they've done so far doesnt inspire me, much like their (lack of) profile picture.

[FM-Bosun]

ok i'll brb for a sec because eepy

[FM-Great Speech]

Do people actually think Bosun is evil or are they voting because they don’t know who to vote? When I was last here, it seemed ryast was the only person that actually thought so and they weren’t even voting Bosun.

Cf. this

Spoiler : long post :

BOSUN VOTES COMPILATION



"for mechanical reasons"? Huh?



.... okay
by the way, white square's ISO is actually abysmal, 20 posts of literal nothing, save for a defense of Ryast when I pushed them, which wasn't really towny at all. they had time to exist at least A BIT, and did not. Wouldn't mind chopping there.



, but at least it's explicit sheeping... This still very much sucks, though. The PRESIDENT is not giving any actual reason here.



same thing, albeit a little less bad than aliens imo, considering Jif did follow up and ping me with Snail's list of people who townread Bosun


This looks like a misunderstanding of Bosun's post, which argued for the townness of a post while saying it did not indicate non-W/W interactions regarding pairings. Those are not contradictory in a solving mindset, even though town and w/w obviously can't be true at the same time. I understand Bosun's thought process here, and honestly find him even townier for it - coming to this conclusion indicates genuine solving attempts rather than attempting to construct a coherent-looking world.


yeah so this vote is looking fine, but it's also probably just wrong (as in not right, not as in scummy)






THIS WAGON IS SILLY AND IT CURRENTLY HAS 7 VOTES (DUE TO PRESIDENT POWER)

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@FM-Gay Cat Rock

[FM-Mountain Tops]

-unvote

For now

[FM-Angry Clown]

ok i'll brb for a sec because eepy

soooo true, friend :o)

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

If you're not powerwolfing D1 of a game (especially a larger game) something is seriously wrong
Seeing a huge villa wagon like this and biting suspicion on anyone who dare oppose it is super indicative of a powerwolfed / wolf-controlled gamestate

If you think that the plants have fur, why are you not voting them?

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

I need someone to explain to me why Purple Forest is in contention today because that slot feels extremely town to me.

[FM-Mountain Tops]

I am very confident that Horse is wolf. There's been tons of friction to his wagon. I also think he shares an alignment with Fast Fish, so info there is good.





You can click the blue arrows in the quote box to go back and read them in context.

!!!!!!!!!!!!
When going over it I had been thinking their interaction with fish looked kinda w/w so I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it

[FM-Great Speech]

Basically, all votes on Bosun are unexplained/sheepy, with the notable exception of Mountain. And yet, we are still heading towards a Bosun death.

[FM-Wine Mom]

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

Flashwagon this then.

[FM-Orange Iris]

yeah i do get that impression

6 (8 with the presidential shit) and a decent amount of resistance to any counterwagons implies Bosun is going over anyway

If you say so, we have obvious shady counterwagon here, with delusional readlist and lot's of scummy signals.
Wanna join?

-vote FM-Incognito

[FM-White Square]

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

[FM-Pink Slip]

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

down for this

[FM-Mountain Tops]

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

[FM-Wine Mom]

If you say so, we have obvious shady counterwagon here, with delusional readlist and lot's of scummy signals.
Wanna join?

-vote FM-Incognito

Can you explain why you hate that readlist so vehemently aside from if having you at the very bottom?

[FM-Wine Mom]

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

Where did you come from, are you trying to die?

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Wait, shit I just remembered that one of the primary reasons why I didn't like purple was that their reads list changed rapidly, but I forgot that that was a damn joke based of SBPC.

-vote FM-Bosum

Still don't like this slot

[FM-Happy Drunk]

WHY ARE WE CFDING!

[FM-Lovely Bug]

ok think im cool with voting purple forest

-vote FM-Purple Forest

[FM-Mountain Tops]

Where did you come from, are you trying to die?

I wouldn't worry about it

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

dude

[FM-Jiraffe]

Some mixed thoughts on specific players digging through the thread-


Jiraffe- I would like to hear what their reads are. They are constantly in the thread pushing here and there but I have so little clue where they stand. Similar to the issue I have with Incognito but without the empty wall post. They feel pretty split in terms of being town or scum read. @FM-Jiraffe Could you clarify what your reads are after all that poking about?

yeah ill clarify some things (just popping in thread btw)

reads i remember from last night were
pink slip - big townlean, very easy follow to thought process regarding many things
snail streamer - small townlean, i think i just like their pushes so far but They Scare Me (as in I think they're probably a really good player) so i don't really want to be townreading them either. but at the end of the day I do, so oh well
The other person - Ok so, whoever the other person in my RT was, bc I forgot their name, but I remembred thinking they were probably town who was wrong. I'll go back n check their name after this but I literally forgot LMAO. I don't be takin notes


i had more scumleans than townleans, ones that i remember at least



Bosun - With their posts themselves (or what they were at the time) i read them pretty null. But, the fact other people treated them like an easy TR and defended them a lot against any pushes makes me feel like its possibly a good scum PR or something along those lines. Could also just be a LHF townie easily but i'll see where the wagon is after I make this psot and how I feel then

Dirty Harry - I remember disliking their progession on me and others as, esp with me, they went from townreading my RT to scumreading it. Though I *could* buy it being on a second look. This read may be a fair bit OMGUS-y, but i do scumlean them nonetheless

Happy Drunk - Not really doing much? And again, the progession on their reads was very weird to me. Scumread. They went from having many different scumleans, none of them being me, to voting me out of the blue and putting me low on their reads. Felt very off to me. If I could have any player dead it'd probably be then but they weren't a wagon at the time and i didn't really feel like pushing them a lot bc i wanted to play video games

Incognito - Probably the one I'm most likely to be wrong about just bc I really suffer from making the mistake of a) get frustrated with someone b) scumraed that person bc i can't understand them c) they're town
and incognito was someone I was getting frustrated with, esp with how they portrayed the interactions between me and the other people in my rt. but then again, assuming they were actually taking noters, the fact they were taking notes is fairly town indicative so im actually kinda rethinking this one as I write it and maybe townleaning them? but ig those could just b faked. IDK. I don't think I'd mind if they were killed at any degree

Lady of the Lake - I remember thinking how they hopped on my wagon was super, super weird and then thinking "wait but would a scum actually do this?" And then I forgot about that and scumread them for other posts, but I do think this read was much more "vibes" based than the others, so it probably holds less merit (or maybe it holds more bc of that/?? jk)

this is everything i could remember from the top of my head. i probably have nulltown/scumreads on many players but i really only remember those when I see them

[FM-Lovely Bug]

WHY ARE WE CFDING!

CAUSE BOSUN IS TOWN GET WITH THE TIMES

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Cf. this



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@FM-Gay Cat Rock

I just read that but I guess I find the reasons people are voting him still feel weak. I don’t really think bosun will flip wolf here. It feels like they’ve ended up with a bunch of votes when they only deserve maybe a third of them.

[FM-Great Speech]

I am very confident that Horse is wolf. There's been tons of friction to his wagon. I also think he shares an alignment with Fast Fish, so info there is good.





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Okay, this is very valid. I just checked their ISO and it's pretty damning. I especially dislike the vote that stays parked on Harry: Harry was actually a likely chop back then, and this REALLY looks like parking vote on town in retrospect (now that Harry is towny, it becomes clearer). I'd be ready to get rid of them.

That said, I wonder if this is an issue for tomorrow, considering the wagon on the warg horse is non-existent right now. We have 48 minutes to beat 7 votes lol, sounds a little optimistic to me.