S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Pink Slip]

@FM-Pink Slip what have you liked / seemed ok about Incognito posts? I remember you posting about it in the morning, and opposedly I disliked their last post at that time so genuinely asking you what are you seeing there

Bosum is irritating me also, especially with -sleep vote. But I know he isn't genuine with it (which is why I'm irritated). But doesn't give me wolf vibes, at least not yet.

i liked the mention of being irritated but not getting any wolf vibes. irritation would be an easy excuse to push somebody as a wolf, pretend to be an emotional villa.

If there is one thing I've learned, its that all these insignificant posts end up being very important in the later stages of the game. I'm just gonna let the masses congregate together to get a baseline what people will do before I start judging.

this post is so obvious and meaningless that it feels villagery to me, like a wolf would think of something better to say, but that might just be me. i can see how somebody might feel otherwise

I dislike people who are RPing too much, I don't like trying to read through the facade. First few posts at the start, fine - I can deal with it, but those who are persistent with it like Iris with his radio channel feels like fake activity.
@FM-Lady of the Lake - you are giving me a headache with that small font. I honestly skipped most of your posts just due to I couldn't be bothered in my catch up.

As for the President, I trust him more now that the hosts have backed up his claim about his voting power. And I'll accept that he may be holding back some info about the role, at least he was open about it.

I'm intentionally not forming a read on Wine and Snail yet.. mostly because I know I have OMGUS bias in my gut while reading them. I'm not sure if Iris planted a seed, saw those two latch on and let a T/T fight start while they conveniently disappeared or if they latched onto what they thought Iris would support later. Iris obviously testing the waters and letting someone else to the dirty work, not sure what to make of it yet. I'll have to reread them when I'm less bias.

Purple Forest: I like his posts, similar to my thinking - thus why my paranoia is telling me to tread with caution.

Jiffy, Snippy, Slip and whoever else was involved: My brain didn't register the arguments enough during my catch up, need to go reread that in detail to figure out what is going on.

I need to head out now.

and then this was the post i saw and liked. i agree the rping is messing with me, i think voting somebody for being annoying and using a small font is based and something a wolf might avoid, and i liked the acknowledgement of trying to avoid omgus bias/arguments not registering in one's head. again, seems like something that's easy to fake an opinion on which they haven't chosen to do.

ultimately i get my reasons for townreading this slot are kind of off the normal beat, a lot of "a wolf would avoid doing something that looks wolfy like this does", which is unreliable at best. but it's my thoughts.

[FM-Zoomer Power]

btw mountain tops you had the best recovery arc in my mind through the first two pages and i will die on this hill

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

I love your pfp, friend :o)

Thanks, I made it myself

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

You are currently leading the elim with about 7 votes so I think you should focus on getting towny now.

Oh no, did the cop N0 me?

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

Wait you're right

-unvote

My apologies for the misunderstanding, clown. Thank you for being uncharacteristically not-angry.

This whole angle from LotL feels very towny though. Like Imma comfortably lock them town for now

[FM-Fast Fish]

oh whoops whatever at least i had intent to spoiler that

I think the conversation you're ISOing from Purple makes Dew Horse and possibly Mountaintop look worse actually. Wolf!Dew throws out a lamist argument to scumpaint T!Purple but doesn't do anything with it because it's a fake read. Or W!Mountaintop presses a T!Dew to make him look silly but it doesn't go anywhere. I guess you could also argue a W/W Dew/Mountaintop where one partner thinks the other is going a bit too hard on Purple. Purple looks relatively unphased by the whole thing.

It's exceedingly difficult to be switching around names like Mountain Dew and Mountaintop btw.

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

I think the conversation you're ISOing from Purple makes Dew Horse and possibly Mountaintop look worse actually. Wolf!Dew throws out a lamist argument to scumpaint T!Purple but doesn't do anything with it because it's a fake read. Or W!Mountaintop presses a T!Dew to make him look silly but it doesn't go anywhere. I guess you could also argue a W/W Dew/Mountaintop where one partner thinks the other is going a bit too hard on Purple. Purple looks relatively unphased by the whole thing.

It's exceedingly difficult to be switching around names like Mountain Dew and Mountaintop btw.

I want you to point out where exactly I tried to scumpaint Purple

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

I think the conversation you're ISOing from Purple makes Dew Horse and possibly Mountaintop look worse actually. Wolf!Dew throws out a lamist argument to scumpaint T!Purple but doesn't do anything with it because it's a fake read. Or W!Mountaintop presses a T!Dew to make him look silly but it doesn't go anywhere. I guess you could also argue a W/W Dew/Mountaintop where one partner thinks the other is going a bit too hard on Purple. Purple looks relatively unphased by the whole thing.

It's exceedingly difficult to be switching around names like Mountain Dew and Mountaintop btw.

Like I feel this post is made in an extremely poor fashion. Its trying to find things that simply do not exist and over-reaching incredibly, you should re-draw your avatar as stretch armstrong.

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

[vote]FM-Fast Fish[vote]

Sorry for delay, had to read OP on how to vote x)

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

[vote]FM-Fast Fish[vote]

Sorry for delay, had to read OP on how to vote x)

wow I got it wrong anyway. Screw you OP, why lie to me?

[FM-Zoomer Power]

I think the conversation you're ISOing from Purple makes Dew Horse and possibly Mountaintop look worse actually. Wolf!Dew throws out a lamist argument to scumpaint T!Purple but doesn't do anything with it because it's a fake read. Or W!Mountaintop presses a T!Dew to make him look silly but it doesn't go anywhere. I guess you could also argue a W/W Dew/Mountaintop where one partner thinks the other is going a bit too hard on Purple. Purple looks relatively unphased by the whole thing.

It's exceedingly difficult to be switching around names like Mountain Dew and Mountaintop btw.

eh the dew angle i might be able to see but the mountaintop angle is harder for me to see -- i felt it at the time but mtntops has gotten a lot better imo

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

-vote FM-Fast Fish

[FM-Zoomer Power]

however your contribution is duly noted... something for me to reflect on later

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

This whole angle from LotL feels very towny though. Like Imma comfortably lock them town for now

Worth noting that this was not my angle. I was the second vote.

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

eh the dew angle i might be able to see but the mountaintop angle is harder for me to see -- i felt it at the time but mtntops has gotten a lot better imo

Explain how you can see the angle?

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

Worth noting that this was not my angle. I was the second vote.

Oh true its Happy Drunk. Well he can move above you on the town list, and then Ill reconsider your status as it goes on. But a general vibes check on the conversation felt quite good, not overly forced or aggro at least.

[FM-Wine Mom]

btw mountain tops you had the best recovery arc in my mind through the first two pages and i will die on this hill

Nice, another free town.

Oh no, did the cop N0 me?

Mmm. I am very interested in your takes on slots like Bosun and Dirty Harry, Horse. I see that you’re catching up live at the moment, I’ll be watching intently.

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[FM-White Square]

Meow there really was a white square. I also thought it was funny but I had already submitted by then.

Yeah
It does at least look like it got me an extra vote for president though! (which didn't matter but shhhhhhhhhhhh)

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

And on the president vote I forgot to vote.

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

Is there a way to sort ISO so it reads from oldest at top?

[FM-Fast Fish]

I want you to point out where exactly I tried to scumpaint Purple

Well you made an argument that purple felt lamist despite agreeing with them.

What did you think about this?

For a moment I went "does claiming a false mindmeld immediately make sense for a wolf" and then realized that it probably wouldn't be false regardless of alignment (so probably NAI)

But - where's the LAMIST there? I don't see any.

[FM-Fast Fish]

And on the president vote I forgot to vote.

I also did not vote on the President thing. To whoever is keeping track.

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Hello chat

I'm a bit hungover

Honestly I think if you're ever sober we have a problem hehe hehe

Though would be fun to curse you with sobriety

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

Well you made an argument that purple felt lamist despite agreeing with them.

What did you think about this?

Some people view LAMIST differently or view it as only negative (town can be LAMIST too in some ways.)

I dont really see much in MTs comment, or at least nothing Id pin down as AI here.

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Very quick skim

Angry clown is towny af

Reason I told you so just believe it

[FM-Mtn Dew Horse]

-vote FM-Dirty Harry

Because on ISO I agree with Wine mums push here. Most of the posts are kinda agreeing with others, not looking to make reads or waves themself but rather trying to just meld into the background it feels and stand behind others opinions

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Am curious I don't have the time sadly atm but how many slots have mentioned the votes on Viking?

Feel its AI one way or the other at this point over half way into the day if someone does look please @ me otherwise I'll do it after work

[FM-Angry Clown]

[vote]FM-Fast Fish[vote]

Sorry for delay, had to read OP on how to vote x)

Maybe you should read it a little closer? :o)

[FM-White Square]

Very quick skim

Angry clown is towny af

Reason I told you so just believe it

Then I do believe it! Or more accurately, I believe that if you're town then Angry likely is too. I find it's often correct to trust one's teammates when they feel strongly.

[FM-Mountain Tops]

- I am, of course, not morally entitled to your reasoning the moment you proclaim a read (which is how people normally use "entitled", so I'm just mentionning it to avoid ambiguities). However, I absolutely am entitled to asking questions for the sake of forming reads, and I also absolutely am entitled to questioning you and forming reads on you, whether you like the result or not lol. I am Great Speech, not Kind-Of-Average-And-Silent Speech, after all.
--- do note that those are not scummy elements, though, and I actually like the slight "fuck off" vibe I'm getting here.

- okay maybe meta or whatever, won't pry

- sure, NAI methods, etc.


Also, I've looked back at the original post

and take less issue with it today, for some reason. I'll see how this evolves

I think Great Speech is towny, from what I've seen of him. His initial case on Ryast was bad, but his initial excitement about it earlier feels genuine, and is supported by his following posts:

Oh, I was too excited to put a vote I had good confidence in and forgot to mention something lol, oopsies

Do you draw any conclusions from that post? Thoughts on my analysis of it?
(In other news, who thought making a sans-serif font and naming it GOTHIC was a good idea? That's a damn crime against font aesthetic, and I will not stand for such treachery)

I think the progression here (specifically the bolded) feels good as well - it's not a "here is a logical explanation bringing me from Position A to Position B", which is what's most natural for scum to fake.

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Hmm, if clown actually went through the avatars through profiles then that makes sense.

-vote FM-Smug Viking

I want to go back here then for now

[FM-Dirty Harry]

@FM-Dirty Harry

While you're here, might I get an idea of your current reads?

bit busy but general idea

Town

Pink-san
Lady-chan

Lean T

President-sama
Snail-san

GTH T

No thoughts currently/Null

Anyone not mentioned

GTH S

Fast-san
Incog-san

Lean Scum

Viking-san
Jiraffe-chan

Scum

[FM-Mountain Tops]

I think this read holds if Alien is town.
The thought process of "I'll just vote for the first player lol" would occur very naturally to someone placing a carefree vote, but not to a wolf who would be strategizing. I think wolves might try to find an excuse to vote a partner without looking suspicious, and might come up with this - but I very much doubt they'd do that for a townie.

Oh also, I should mention Sassy Witch is towny for similar reasons if Smug Viking is town:

Hi me I voted them kind of why I think as I do.

(I voted cause I looked at all the names and smug viking sounded fun to vote when am a sassy witch you know?)

Also their responses to it.

It's not a like never suspect level town read but am pretty far to think they are just town (Also doubt they self voted based on posts)

I think this argument for voting seems easier to come up with as a strategizing wolf, though, so I'm less confident here.

[FM-Mountain Tops]

solving based off the president vote is so unorthodox i might be inclined to townread it

...odd thought

In general, solving on mech tends to be easier for wolves to fake, but in this particular case:

- Wolves were certainly considering how town would read into the votes
- Many people had already also been solving off the president votes

[FM-Mountain Tops]

...odd thought

In general, solving on mech tends to be easier for wolves to fake, but in this particular case:

- Wolves were certainly considering how town would read into the votes
- Many people had already also been solving off the president votes

Looking back through Bosun's ISO:

Aliens could be town tbh idk
winning the election is inherently wolfy because wolves know who each other are and. can boost a partner but like there's a 90% chance they just won because their name is alphabetically first

So it seems very strange to view solving based on the president votes as unorthodox, when Bosun had already been essentially doing so themselves

[FM-White Square]

-vote FM-Dirty Harry

Maybe interesting... which reminds me, I may wish to switch fonts.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Good meowning everyone! It isn’t meowning but have a good one nonetheless and meow.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

I thought I was unique but there are so meowny cats out there. The tuna is reserved for meow station though, none for all of you!

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Did anyone catch or say who voted for who for presidency?

I said who I voted for and I saw one vote for alien and that is it.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Oh also, I should mention Sassy Witch is towny for similar reasons if Smug Viking is town:



I think this argument for voting seems easier to come up with as a strategizing wolf, though, so I'm less confident here.

It sounds like you want to hit in Viking/Alien just like Bosun does. What does Bosun's flip tell you instead?

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Oh people had an entire conversation about me while I was gone? Hype!

I wish it was about meow but alas. You do look like you are struggling a bit growing some leaves. Even if your branches seem nice and hard so far.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

I feel like if we vote the president that they might not die but also it might be annoying but I have no facts to base this on, just the meowter of my opinions.

Also I think that the plant is a real tree(not a wolf) if you couldn’t tell from meow last post

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

kinda fucked up that nobody voted me for president

I am the better cat. And of you didn’t vote for yourself then you should have.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

i'll take outted as any alignment

You are outed as a fake cat. Does this mean robot or dog? Yet to be determined.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

hi hi hello!! :o)

so many cats in thread... hold on.....

^•o•^

perfect

give me a second, will skim back now!! :o)

You forgot the whiskers! One of the distinct parts of a cat!

[FM-Fast Fish]

You forgot the whiskers! One of the distinct parts of a cat!

Wait a sec. You don't have whiskers.

[FM-Mountain Tops]

Player	N0 Vote
Aliens are Real	Snail Streamer
Angry Clown	Mtn Dew Horse
Bosun	None
Dirty Harry	None
Fast Fish	None
Gay Cat Rock	Gay Cat Rock
Great Speech	Aliens are Real
Green Nya	[CLAIM MISSING]
Happy Drunk	Happy Drunk
Incognito	Fast Fish
Jiraffe	None
Lady of the Lake	Aliens are Real
Lolcat	None
Lovely Bug	Ryast
Mountain Tops	White Square
Mtn Dew Horse	None
My Plants	None
Orange Iris	Gay Cat Rock
Pink Slip	Great Speech
Purple Forest	[CLAIM MISSING]
Raincoat Cat	None
Ryast	None
Sassy Witch	Smug Viking
Smug Viking	Pink Slip
Snail Streamer	Ryast
Snippy	[CLAIM MISSING]
Tiny Sandwich	[CLAIM MISSING]
Wasteland	[CLAIM MISSING]
White Square	White Square
Wine Mom	Wine Mom
Zoomer Power	[CLAIM MISSING]

For anyone curious - this is the list of president-vote claims I've compiled. Could potentially be missing a few. I don't see much point in hiding my vote now that we have so many claims, so I'm revealing here I voted for White Square, as I felt a bit bad for them.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Also thinking Purple Forest is villagery.

It's hard for me to focus on the game right now though, keep getting distracted. Need a laser pointer shined on the posts to keep me focused. Don't be surprised if I keep disappearing and reappearing like a whack-a-mole.

This cat feels like meow a bit right now. Easily distracted by the ball of yarn in the corner.

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Wait a sec. You don't have whiskers.

I’m special

[FM-Gay Cat Rock]

Why do you think I can talk? If I was truly a cat, I would only speak in meows.