S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Fast Fish]

yeah

[FM-Wine Mom]

If Lady town: FM-Ryast + FM-Mountain Tops/FM-White Square + 3 in [Harry, Sandwich, Bug, Purple/Plants - with Plants and Purple hard unpaired]

And there's a fringe world where scum!zoomer decided to voyeur me the same night that incog role copped me. I just...think that's an unlikely move and does not make a lot of sense strategically. Why would you care about the TYPES of actions I can take when you are getting my entire rolecard anyway? Yeah, it's improbable.

[FM-Wine Mom]

And there's a fringe world where scum!zoomer decided to voyeur me the same night that incog role copped me. I just...think that's an unlikely move and does not make a lot of sense strategically. Why would you care about the TYPES of actions I can take when you are getting my entire rolecard anyway? Yeah, it's improbable.

Zoomer lost wolf? Could maybe see that. I don't know how they're supposed to find pack wolves with their role -- typically lost wolves get some sort of hooding ability. Zoomer's role does tell them the number of Energized people which I have no idea what that implies.

[FM-Wine Mom]

@FM-Aliens Are Real
@FM-Angry Clown
@FM-Dirty Harry
@FM-Fast Fish
@FM-Jiraffe
@FM-Lady of the Lake
@FM-Lovely Bug
@FM-Mountain Tops
@FM-My Plants
@FM-Orange Iris
@FM-Purple Forest
@FM-Raincoat Cat
@FM-Ryast
@FM-Sassy Witch
@FM-Smug Viking
@FM-Tiny Sandwich
@FM-White Square
@FM-Wine Mom
@FM-Zoomer Power

Whoever has the president role, can you call for Impeachment again? I think it'd be nice to have Viking jailed and safe from NKs tonight. They don't have any actions to take anyway and I think sacrificing the 3x vote power is worth the jail.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Zoomer lost wolf? Could maybe see that. I don't know how they're supposed to find pack wolves with their role -- typically lost wolves get some sort of hooding ability. Zoomer's role does tell them the number of Energized people which I have no idea what that implies.

[FM-Wine Mom]

Hi I’m here
I assume scum used their level 25 wound on great cuz no way he woulda died in one shot otherwise

Should probably look into great’s reads

Oh yeah, I remember thinking Harry was towny for this because I had the same dumb thought and I doubt scum would think of this with the knowledge that the 'level 25 wound' is just the factional NK.

[FM-Fast Fish]

Oh yeah, I remember thinking Harry was towny for this because I had the same dumb thought and I doubt scum would think of this with the knowledge that the 'level 25 wound' is just the factional NK.

dude i think it's just mountain and zoomer and then we can go home.

[FM-Wine Mom]

dude i think it's just mountain and zoomer and then we can go home.

There's a minimum of 4 scum left and likely 5

[FM-Wine Mom]

Anyway, that's all the work I can put in today. I have a feeling I'm not surviving ITA2 having been shot thrice already (Raincoat and Jiraffe are going to shoot me lol). Ciao.

[FM-Fast Fish]

There's a minimum of 4 scum left and likely 5

okay so it's definitely mountain and zoomer. nice

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Deep in my soul...I think Angry Clown is Angry Town

This is current feel as well as I've been saying!

@FM-Aliens Are Real
@FM-Angry Clown
@FM-Dirty Harry
@FM-Fast Fish
@FM-Jiraffe
@FM-Lady of the Lake
@FM-Lovely Bug
@FM-Mountain Tops
@FM-My Plants
@FM-Orange Iris
@FM-Purple Forest
@FM-Raincoat Cat
@FM-Ryast
@FM-Sassy Witch
@FM-Smug Viking
@FM-Tiny Sandwich
@FM-White Square
@FM-Wine Mom
@FM-Zoomer Power

Whoever has the president role, can you call for Impeachment again? I think it'd be nice to have Viking jailed and safe from NKs tonight. They don't have any actions to take anyway and I think sacrificing the 3x vote power is worth the jail.

Second this incase someone wanted to hear from a more confirmed person!

Seperate I wanna veto Wine and Lake for today honestly some of you might say "That's bad" but they are both actually towny and I think their clashing if we can get past it likely is a moment we have to hold power over wolfs and force night kills there.

Am here for quite a while for live talks and encourage it (might take me a few to notice your post tehe)

Why do people town read plant never felt strong there and see others are what am I missing

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

This is current feel as well as I've been saying!



Second this incase someone wanted to hear from a more confirmed person!

Seperate I wanna veto Wine and Lake for today honestly some of you might say "That's bad" but they are both actually towny and I think their clashing if we can get past it likely is a moment we have to hold power over wolfs and force night kills there.

Am here for quite a while for live talks and encourage it (might take me a few to notice your post tehe)

Why do people town read plant never felt strong there and see others are what am I missing

I feel trading 2 votes for Viking night immunity is a solid play. It frees up protectives and watching roles to be elsewhere.

On plants They pushed Wastelands really consistently calling for their death over and over. They also were pushing snippy as your situation settled in and did not just hop on the snippy train when it was clear they were going down.

Half here btw. Looking for what makes sense to dive into. I think my read on Lady is about as far as I can take it for now, and unless someone points something crazy out that I missed I do not see a world where Mountian Tops is scum.

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Like, Plants scum could be possible but imo they woulda had to do some pretty hard bussing on Wastelands and they felt ok off snippy. I kinda got that far and decided they were not worth focusing for the moment.

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Like, Plants scum could be possible but imo they woulda had to do some pretty hard bussing on Wastelands and they felt ok off snippy. I kinda got that far and decided they were not worth focusing for the moment.

Okay yeah was unsure the maion wasteland pushers (though I think based on how that slot entered Day 1 they were unlikely to live long)

But they can pass for now then thanks!

Agree on mountain just a stress cause I feel the most TALK people are all yelling at each other as wolfs while others are hiding in the middle >_<

So likely they do end up dead but it's a slot am not willing to die on the hill for compared to Lady/Wine

[FM-Jiraffe]

hiya all
checking in, updates on my neighborhoodmates

im again very certain mountain is town. even they want to die, mainly to get out of the game, but like they are just 100% town in my eyes and I will HEAVILY implore people stop shooting there.

Alien im still unsure of lmao

[FM-Jiraffe]

This is current feel as well as I've been saying!



Second this incase someone wanted to hear from a more confirmed person!

Seperate I wanna veto Wine and Lake for today honestly some of you might say "That's bad" but they are both actually towny and I think their clashing if we can get past it likely is a moment we have to hold power over wolfs and force night kills there.

Am here for quite a while for live talks and encourage it (might take me a few to notice your post tehe)

Why do people town read plant never felt strong there and see others are what am I missing

im very certain mountain is town and mountain is heavily against wine mom, so it feels weird to disagree with a player like that i trust a lot. i still don't know how to feel about wine mom. they're null but not in that sense that "I don't have a read" and instead more so like "i have been swayed one way and back so many times I want to give up"

[FM-Jiraffe]

ok i can actually be in thread and im also like, awake enough to pay attention lmao

towneis
Sassy witch
Drunk
Viking
mountain tops/white square

townleans
Ryast
My Plants
GCR
lady

snail (disconnected from my other townleans but still a townlean. very slight)

nullish
clown
iris
fish
bug (have seen nothing)
lolcat (have seen nothing)
raincoat cat (dont remember much)


scumlean
Dirty Harry
aliens
purple
wine mom
tiny sandwich (why has this slot never been mentioned but other lowposters have? probably a coasting scum tbh. incognito and wasteland were similar, only really noted at EoD1 which is why people thought of them imo)


here was my readslist from last night


dirty harry/purple/tiny sandwich. prob a wolf in here
aliens/clown/cat. prob a wolf in here
maybe a wolf in gcr/bug?

if that doesnt have all the wolves its either a mid poster coasting (think ryast, plants, iris, etc), or a deepwolf. if there were very few wolves in that higher pool i think its more likely theres a mid poster coasting. if the ihgher pool had 0-1 wolves total theres 100% the rest of the wolf team inwine mom/aliens/snail/lady/mountain , and i think you shoot in there (in that order) for victory. aliens and mom prob aren't w/w so if wine is a wolf u skip to snail

and heres how i think shots should be divvied up. think this will lead to success

[FM-Jiraffe]

any people in the townlean list & up wanna realtime

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Alien im still unsure of lmao

Lol. You will be after N3 and then maybe we can work together for a bit as I haunt you.

I really do wish people gave reasons though. Even if at this point its just so after the game I can see what made people read me wrong and improve as a player.

[FM-Jiraffe]

Lol. You will be after N3 and then maybe we can work together for a bit as I haunt you.

I really do wish people gave reasons though. Even if at this point its just so after the game I can see what made people read me wrong and improve as a player.

tbh im playing like, completely on vibes rn. i haven't had the motivation to go and ISO people like I did d1 and like I did for some of D2. are you self resolving? im completely lost mechanically lmao

[FM-Sassy Witch]

agreee tiny sandwich is coasting I actually don't remember a day 2 post of theirs

dirty harry/purple/tiny sandwich. prob a wolf in here
aliens/clown/cat. prob a wolf in here
maybe a wolf in gcr/bug?

How has this expanded with the GCR flip?

[FM-Jiraffe]

@FM-Fast Fish

i am genuinely sorry about my behavior earlier, calling you a cheater and stuff was super uncalled for and assuming complete bad faith. it was rude and it's not something I should've said.

hope theres no bad feelings going further

[FM-Jiraffe]

agreee tiny sandwich is coasting I actually don't remember a day 2 post of theirs



How has this expanded with the GCR flip?

it hasn't lol
i was kinda thinking gcr was town in the first place, and with shit like "well they have so many wounds so EVEN IF THEY ARE TOWn we should kill them" it was kinda wild

[FM-Jiraffe]

it hasn't lol
i was kinda thinking gcr was town in the first place, and with shit like "well they have so many wounds so EVEN IF THEY ARE TOWn we should kill them" it was kinda wild

im also assuming only 1 wolf in all of those categories when there could easily be more

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

tbh im playing like, completely on vibes rn. i haven't had the motivation to go and ISO people like I did d1 and like I did for some of D2. are you self resolving? im completely lost mechanically lmao

Snail got a death note for killing Wasteland (Was also a reason for me suspecting them, they even double shot there)
They decided to use it on me and when I self preserved on them and they started talking like they were some victim of a wolf conspiracy I kinda started talking a bit of shit about how scummy what they were doing was and calling them out for not even bothering to read the players they were pushing to kill. Also laughing at them begging Lady for votes after they strongly considered using the death note on them.

Long story short I think I genuinely pissed them off and they flatly said the second they get the death note (eod) they would use it on me. Very likely EoD3 I flip. I doubt they were not motivated to read me before and after pissing them off so much they dug and reconsidered.

[FM-Purple Forest]

This is current feel as well as I've been saying!



Second this incase someone wanted to hear from a more confirmed person!

Seperate I wanna veto Wine and Lake for today honestly some of you might say "That's bad" but they are both actually towny and I think their clashing if we can get past it likely is a moment we have to hold power over wolfs and force night kills there.

Am here for quite a while for live talks and encourage it (might take me a few to notice your post tehe)

Why do people town read plant never felt strong there and see others are what am I missing

@FM-Sassy Witch
Sure, I'd like to believe that. Let me get back to you on plants though? Can I see your readlist?

[FM-Jiraffe]

agreee tiny sandwich is coasting I actually don't remember a day 2 post of theirs



How has this expanded with the GCR flip?

i literally didn't know they were a slot that Existed until EOD2, bc literally NO ONE HAD MENTIONED THEM IN FOREVER. i haven't seen them once either, but that could be a timezone thing (but also I was around for the second ITA yesterday and didn't see them and I don't think they were at the first one either??)

[FM-Jiraffe]

Snail got a death note for killing Wasteland (Was also a reason for me suspecting them, they even double shot there)
They decided to use it on me and when I self preserved on them and they started talking like they were some victim of a wolf conspiracy I kinda started talking a bit of shit about how scummy what they were doing was and calling them out for not even bothering to read the players they were pushing to kill. Also laughing at them begging Lady for votes after they strongly considered using the death note on them.

Long story short I think I genuinely pissed them off and they flatly said the second they get the death note (eod) they would use it on me. Very likely EoD3 I flip. I doubt they were not motivated to read me before and after pissing them off so much they dug and reconsidered.

oh righttttt
i forgot about the death note
nvm u right

[FM-Jiraffe]

i think my reads have been largely correc tthis game but i feel like with the more town dying i just am losing the motivation i once had. even tho we got 3 wolves, just bc im like mash brained rn so 3 wolves feels like nothing even when its probably half or near half the wolf team

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

agreee tiny sandwich is coasting I actually don't remember a day 2 post of theirs



How has this expanded with the GCR flip?

I been calling this out for a minute. Funny enough, I believe they were the other name I kept bringing up next to Snippy this game. Would be kinda cool if both flip Mafia

[FM-Sassy Witch]

it hasn't lol
i was kinda thinking gcr was town in the first place, and with shit like "well they have so many wounds so EVEN IF THEY ARE TOWn we should kill them" it was kinda wild

Nod
I do regret the shot only minorly I fear that was a going to die and bog people regardless but knowing the 100% I wouldn't have

@FM-Sassy Witch
Sure, I'd like to believe that. Let me get back to you on plants though? Can I see your readlist?

Same as at EoD cause I mostly look to clear people and find the towns not get the wolfs at this stage it's just playing to strengths
I can quote in a second if you want

[FM-Sassy Witch]

i literally didn't know they were a slot that Existed until EOD2, bc literally NO ONE HAD MENTIONED THEM IN FOREVER. i haven't seen them once either, but that could be a timezone thing (but also I was around for the second ITA yesterday and didn't see them and I don't think they were at the first one either??)

Nod I am gonna reliik at the ISO slowly here I think

I been calling this out for a minute. Funny enough, I believe they were the other name I kept bringing up next to Snippy this game. Would be kinda cool if both flip Mafia

If tiny does flip mafia assumign you did I think you have a noteable amount it'll have been sad the death note was on you ahujbfahjf a

[FM-Jiraffe]

purple forest is probably a hit
tiny sandwich is *probably* a hit? im mainly going with how other people have treated them for this one bc they have very little content to evalute, they're like a nullscum independetly and a solid scumlean with others in consideration

[FM-Jiraffe]

purple forest ive just felt meh about for forever and it feels like a slot people keep saying "this slot is kinda scummy" and then doing nothing about. (same with snippy n incognito lmao)

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

purple forest is probably a hit
tiny sandwich is *probably* a hit? im mainly going with how other people have treated them for this one bc they have very little content to evalute, they're like a nullscum independetly and a solid scumlean with others in consideration

I do not see a scum case reading through them. Its pretty null overall but whats unique about them is how little attention they have been getting from others. Similar to Snippy up until Witch called out their killing action. My words last I Isoed them in my read wall was-

"Tiny Sandwich- Almost looks like an intentional effort to pocket GCR. They have a handful of takes but are kinda lurking their way through the game. Not much to read them on and they are not getting that much attention"

[FM-Purple Forest]

If you want to flip me I'd rather you flip sandwich before me. Though that being said it is +EV to shoot me in ITAs as opposed to yeet.

[FM-Jiraffe]

I do not see a scum case reading through them. Its pretty null overall but whats unique about them is how little attention they have been getting from others. Similar to Snippy up until Witch called out their killing action. My words last I Isoed them in my read wall was-

"Tiny Sandwich- Almost looks like an intentional effort to pocket GCR. They have a handful of takes but are kinda lurking their way through the game. Not much to read them on and they are not getting that much attention"

yeah i feel the exact same way. they're null, but how others have talked about them isn't

[FM-Jiraffe]

If you want to flip me I'd rather you flip sandwich before me. Though that being said it is +EV to shoot me in ITAs as opposed to yeet.

i can agree to that

why is it better to shoot you as opposed to voting?

[FM-Purple Forest]

i can agree to that

why is it better to shoot you as opposed to voting?

I was likely wounded due to Gay Cat Rock.

[FM-Jiraffe]

I was likely wounded due to Gay Cat Rock.

oh that makes sense

[FM-Jiraffe]

so do we have any rb/protectives claimed? since there was no factional last night? (and alien is taking credit for the snail kill)

[FM-Purple Forest]

so do we have any rb/protectives claimed? since there was no factional last night? (and alien is taking credit for the snail kill)

I might have roleblocked someone last night!

[FM-Jiraffe]

I might have roleblocked someone last night!

:eyes:

wanna name names? gossip a lil?

[FM-Ryast]

@FM-Ryast Why didn't you vote Wasteland here then?

Because I thought it would be a good way to identify anyone wanting to CFD again and then make reads off that -- easier to catch a wolf if they're hopping onto a suggestion rather than an actual vote.

When I found out I was called opportunistic (over a non-voting suggestion, mind you) and etc as well as almost no one seemingly having any real serious interest in it that's when I figured I wanted to kill Wasteland for real on D2 on possibility of being a wolf.

@FM-Ryast Why target Fish over Snail? You expressed no paranoia over Fish the past two days whereas you were actively tinfoiling w!Snail worlds and obviously Snail was a topic of discussion yesterday

My role is a duo of alternating non-consecutive abilities. Both of them have very different kinds of slots you'd want to target them with. On Night 2 it was best that I use the ability of that night on a player who wasn't receiving a lot of attention, and as such Snail was never going to be a good target unless we want to descend into WIFOMsanity.

I figured looking into Fish for a tinfoil would be a worthwhile use given the D2 interaction between me and him (quotes below in particular, especially in the context of each other)

Ryast, I trust you because I respect when you said your wolf play was good. Do you really think Wine Mom and Snail are taking me for a ride here?

Lets say you know there is a wolf between me and them.

Who would you think it was and why?

Not to suggest that I think Speech is a wolf, just seeing how you evaluate us in the context of the other.

In that case, them obviously. I thought their push against your plant hot-take was funny and borderline over the top but I didn't read it as particularly scummy in a vacuum.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me that its "obviously them" here when Fish thinks my wolf play is good (...? I'm not entirely sure since he used the "respect" wording but still weird enough to warrant him being considered for my ability)

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

so do we have any rb/protectives claimed? since there was no factional last night? (and alien is taking credit for the snail kill)

I have been waiting to see who would push for this. Good shit

[FM-Ryast]

Addendum:

Snail was actually going to be a good target but that was before the whole thread started turning against them.

[FM-Ryast]

so do we have any rb/protectives claimed? since there was no factional last night? (and alien is taking credit for the snail kill)

I have been waiting to see who would push for this. Good shit

I thought we all figured Snail prevented a kill on Smug Viking?

And this seems like a thinly veiled attempt to get mass claims

[FM-Jiraffe]

I thought we all figured Snail prevented a kill on Smug Viking?

And this seems like a thinly veiled attempt to get mass claims

i did not read snails flip, lemme go do that

[FM-Tiny Sandwich]

@FM-Aliens Are Real
@FM-Angry Clown
@FM-Dirty Harry
@FM-Fast Fish
@FM-Jiraffe
@FM-Lady of the Lake
@FM-Lovely Bug
@FM-Mountain Tops
@FM-My Plants
@FM-Orange Iris
@FM-Purple Forest
@FM-Raincoat Cat
@FM-Ryast
@FM-Sassy Witch
@FM-Smug Viking
@FM-Tiny Sandwich
@FM-White Square
@FM-Wine Mom
@FM-Zoomer Power

Whoever has the president role, can you call for Impeachment again? I think it'd be nice to have Viking jailed and safe from NKs tonight. They don't have any actions to take anyway and I think sacrificing the 3x vote power is worth the jail.

Not me but that would be nice

[FM-Purple Forest]

Chat did I get baited.