S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Jiraffe]

They dont have many posts either way, you can read it for yourself and then compare with the "trs" they've been receiving and it just feels scum shaped. Like its just an uninspiring ISO, they are just commenting about stuff kinda elevating their tone to seem to have a definite stance on things... but at the end of the day their actions dont match that at all

i assumed there would be more for some reason
they got townread? why? who?

[FM-Jiraffe]

I didn't say they were accurate, it's the tones I interpreted when I read them. I'm sure other people may have gotten similar sentiment even if you did not have said emotion.

"i didn't say they were accurate" is kinda crazy

at post 670 snail streamer outs as wolf! (it was the tone i got when i read it)

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Pink Slip wagon should be dissolved. Fast Fish Wagon is full of creepy crawlies, should be dissolved. Jirraffe wagon is... curious because I don't inherently scumread the wagon but my own read on the slot makes me stubborn to see it wagoned. I guess I don't care if a wagon is there for information reasons, but this slot should never die today.

Please reword your stance on Jiraffe's wagon because it doesn't make any sense to me. @FM-Purple Forest

[FM-Snail Streamer]

I think looking back on my reads I feel worse about the Harry wagon in retrospect.

@FM-Snail Streamer
You feel like you would mildly care about what I have to say to this regard. Cya.

How so?
Im kinda with you that I dont have much of an informed opinion on Harry, but the wagon voters I dont really have an issue with? Wine mom and Great Speech are more likely town to me. And I dont remember much of Clown and Horse. Kinda nulls to me but not a warning sign of the wagon being possibly bad

[FM-Jiraffe]

you positioned what you were doing as a retelling of the events. you didn't really say "this is how i interpreted these things" you said "this is what happened from my notes". i don't understand where you're coming from

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

How so?
Im kinda with you that I dont have much of an informed opinion on Harry, but the wagon voters I dont really have an issue with? Wine mom and Great Speech are more likely town to me. And I dont remember much of Clown and Horse. Kinda nulls to me but not a warning sign of the wagon being possibly bad

I propose a thought exercise with you. I'm currently ISOing Mtn Dew Horse. Will you do the same? We then compare and contrast thoughts.

[FM-Jiraffe]

ill go here for now

-vote FM-Bossun

@FM-Snail Streamer
(did i do that right? idk)
could you provide examples of people townreading bossun? im voting them for now assuming you're not like, lying, but i would like to see specific people/posts

[FM-White Square]

ill go here for now

-vote FM-Bossun

@FM-Snail Streamer
(did i do that right? idk)
could you provide examples of people townreading bossun? im voting them for now assuming you're not like, lying, but i would like to see specific people/posts

You doubled the s. Also, I will vote here for now too, though for mechanical reasons

-vote FM-Bosun

[FM-Incognito]

you positioned what you were doing as a retelling of the events. you didn't really say "this is how i interpreted these things" you said "this is what happened from my notes". i don't understand where you're coming from

I wasn't planning on sharing those notes, Ryast asked for a summary and thats what I had written down.

If that is not how you remember the events, plz, do tell your side on how you viewed the argument, then we can compare opinions.. so far you are just saying I'm wrong without really pointing to why

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

-vote FM-Dirty Harry

Because on ISO I agree with Wine mums push here. Most of the posts are kinda agreeing with others, not looking to make reads or waves themself but rather trying to just meld into the background it feels and stand behind others opinions

It's difficult to express just how much I dislike this vote because it isn't just Mtn Dew Horse sheeping another voter on a wagon that feels a bit overrepresented (maybe overrepresented is the wrong word but I feel like there's too much pressure on Dirty Harry for not enough of a reason)

Mtn Dew Horse's ISO is full of one liners and declarations without significant analysis. Even the one townread they did make (which is on ME) had to be corrected because they had part of the circumstantial information wrong. He spends some time arguing with Fast Fish but if anything it almost feels like Mtn Dew Horse/Fast Fish is W/W which is NOT something I had considered before going back through his posts. Everything he said feels completely fabricated.

Like I feel this post is made in an extremely poor fashion. Its trying to find things that simply do not exist and over-reaching incredibly, you should re-draw your avatar as stretch armstrong.

This post in particular right before MDH votes Fast Fish feels like such a nothingburger. It doesn't address anything in particular. It can be boiled down to "a wolf made this post" and "i didnt do that". It's such a noncommittal way of pushing somebody.

I really want to know why this wagon fizzled out now because I don't see any reason why the votes should have dispersed.

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Bosun v. Viking are terrible wagons even for EOD1.

Bosun hasn't really posted anything scummy imo and just stream of consciousness'd all day and wanted Viking gone for reasons weve discussed. Any semi-mechanical reason to push Viking also went out the window when he essentially checked out due to flu and wants his slot resolved like that. He didn't even interact with enough people for us to get spew reads. My guess is, Bosun flips green, Viking doesn't die because WIFON and we're in a worst position because of it.

Plus I've been townreading Bosun. I was lurking earlier and watching the convo he was having with Happy Drunk wondering when it'd click for them to want to go after Viking. It didn't take long so I know they're at least actively thinking about some considerations like that. Same goes for Happy Drunk, obviously.

I made a post discussing this guy earlier. He had a stream of consciousness that felt very villagery to me in his last pop-in. I don't think I want him going over today.

right. bosun iso

their posting mostly reads quite blunt in a way where I dont think it's particularly unfakeable, but I do think their posts are quite natural and they're not forcing their reads. would lean town with a bit of hesitation

These I also think could be town though I have more reservations there:

FM-Fast Fish
FM-Bosun

ISOing Bosun because he has decided to annoy me



I vibe with this post lol. Towny
(I often have the same experience as town lmao)
It also matches the general tone of the ISO, which is immediate live-posting and short-term vibe-reads.

Regarding president being inherently scummy: true on N0, although votes were spread out enough for this to be a rather weak indicator. Viking having 3 votes makes little sense, however (they aren't first in list, and their name isn't particularly funny), and I'd like to know if anyone at all claims to have voted for them. I voted for Aliens because funny name, btw.

Town-reading thoughts (per @FM-Fast Fish request):

Using my ISO as a sort of notebook this game to compartmentalize my thoughts, so I'll be bringing up player's names in roughly the order they appear there and a bit of re-reading here or there.

Bosun (ship dude going yar har har) - is someone that I felt was memeing to a point of being potentially fake, but later on they seemed to be adamant about certain things they believed in and approached those topics separate of people's alignment (see where I said "shutdown" and something about it being swift). I think this is a style of solving that is pro-town. Lower, close to but not mild, townread of sorts as I favor the later posts more than the initial set of posts.

I went back to sanity check myself and do a recopilation of the Bosun trs

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

It's difficult to express just how much I dislike this vote because it isn't just Mtn Dew Horse sheeping another voter on a wagon that feels a bit overrepresented (maybe overrepresented is the wrong word but I feel like there's too much pressure on Dirty Harry for not enough of a reason)

Mtn Dew Horse's ISO is full of one liners and declarations without significant analysis. Even the one townread they did make (which is on ME) had to be corrected because they had part of the circumstantial information wrong. He spends some time arguing with Fast Fish but if anything it almost feels like Mtn Dew Horse/Fast Fish is W/W which is NOT something I had considered before going back through his posts. Everything he said feels completely fabricated.



This post in particular right before MDH votes Fast Fish feels like such a nothingburger. It doesn't address anything in particular. It can be boiled down to "a wolf made this post" and "i didnt do that". It's such a noncommittal way of pushing somebody.

I really want to know why this wagon fizzled out now because I don't see any reason why the votes should have dispersed.

The final thought I intended to assert but then didn't because I forgot to proofread my post was that MDH does all of the exact same things he justifies voting Dirty Harry for. In the exact same post where he calls harry suspicious for hiding behind others he hides his own opinion behind Wine Mom's push.

[FM-White Square]

You doubled the s. Also, I will vote here for now too, though for mechanical reasons

-vote FM-Bosun

I haven't had enough time to get a lay of the land, so to speak, nor do I expect to be able to do so by EOD. But I'd at least like to ensure things go well role-wise for me

[FM-Purple Forest]

*handshake*

Frends

Do snails have hands? Do forests have hands? I suppose they do now. *handshake*

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

You doubled the s. Also, I will vote here for now too, though for mechanical reasons

-vote FM-Bosun

What the fuck does this mean???

[FM-Purple Forest]

Please reword your stance on Jiraffe's wagon because it doesn't make any sense to me. @FM-Purple Forest

I like Jiraffe, I don't *hate* the wagon on her. I don't really mind if the wagon dissolves or not because I don't think it goes over anyways and its probably good info later on.

[FM-Snail Streamer]

This is actually a pretty good callout but I want to offer you a question:

Do you think a wolf makes those five posts pretty much back-to-back with seemingly very little consideration as to their contents? I am not sure that a wolf goes straight from "no they have 60 posts you can't find them null" to basically asserting that they have no strong read on them whatsoever. A wolf probably plays that differently. With that said I'm not sure that I'm willing to give them a pass for the rest of the day but the fluidity of their thoughts gives me pause before putting them in the scum bucket.

This was the post Lady of The lake is referencing above regards the reasoning of Bosun tr. It just feel they have some hidden charisma that people is that charitable to them tbh tbh .

i dont think its impossible for them to be town and those reads to be genuine, but it just doesnt feel right to me

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Uhhhh cat must die I'm snagging the first cat must die of the game fuck you all I was first

Also they outed to be mafia for us. This is of course the principal reason to totally muder them. Pirates must die

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

I like Jiraffe, I don't *hate* the wagon on her. I don't really mind if the wagon dissolves or not because I don't think it goes over anyways and its probably good info later on.

Understood. Thank you for revisiting my question.

[FM-Purple Forest]

How so?
Im kinda with you that I dont have much of an informed opinion on Harry, but the wagon voters I dont really have an issue with? Wine mom and Great Speech are more likely town to me. And I dont remember much of Clown and Horse. Kinda nulls to me but not a warning sign of the wagon being possibly bad

You sound like you might be a nerd...

I don't know. They're all realistically null at worst (I do TR Great Speech the most of the wagon), I'm just getting kind of nervous about Clown's existence and stances with regards to the wagons even though I am also saying its better to ignore him today. Horse is really a shrug, but I don't really trust Horse's existence there. Mom is just Mom and I like when Mom support my push I don't like when Mom don't support my push. :o[

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Also they outed to be mafia for us. This is of course the principal reason to totally muder them. Pirates must die

This is a good point, it has since been established that cats must live.

[FM-Great Speech]

I thought I was losing it for a moment because I went to check to get an example and it wasnt there :o(

Wait you're right

-unvote

My apologies for the misunderstanding, clown. Thank you for being uncharacteristically not-angry.

fun detour, I suppose :o)

I get the idea behind it if it makes you feel any better?

It's alright. I don't mind being wrong every now and then. :P

woefully I do need to go do something but this was fun :op

I like the whole thing about looking at avatars before game start here. Both sides (clown and lady of the lake) seemed honest and none seemed panicked.

[FM-Ryast]

I think I'm going to unvote and then figure someone else to vote in the next hour.

I re-read Incognito's ISO. His posts don't really give me any real towny impressions, but I have two points for not holding my vote there anymore. First is that there isn't all that much I dislike about them -- its only like two things, my initial dislike of how Incognito approached the president thing and 2nd his reads list which doesn't contain many conclusions. 2nd caveat is that I get the impression its best to let him cook for awhile, especially since there apparently was a masonry offer between Wine Mom and incognito....? Essentially I get the vibe that pursuing either of them would be unproductive at the moment (plus I need to re-eval Wine Mom on SoD2) and has the chance to lead to getting clues on other people.

[unvote][unvote]

[FM-Ryast]

Goshdarnit

-unvote

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

You doubled the s. Also, I will vote here for now too, though for mechanical reasons

-vote FM-Bosun

This vote right here is enough to make me not want to vote Bosun, completely disregarding the fact that Jiraffe hopped on the wagon without justification.

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

This player needs a lot more pressure because their wagon fizzled out when I don't think it should have. It screams wolf to me.

[FM-Purple Forest]

Also they outed to be mafia for us. This is of course the principal reason to totally muder them. Pirates must die

Actually a bosun (boatswain) is more better associated with military and naval ships as opposed to piracy.

[FM-Purple Forest]

Sorry. Nerd emoji. I need to sleep.

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Actually a bosun (boatswain) is more better associated with military and naval ships as opposed to piracy.

And you were calling me a nerd!?!? Caught in 4K

[FM-Snail Streamer]

This vote right here is enough to make me not want to vote Bosun, completely disregarding the fact that Jiraffe hopped on the wagon without justification.

-vote FM-Mtn Dew Horse

This player needs a lot more pressure because their wagon fizzled out when I don't think it should have. It screams wolf to me.

What about the fact of a lurker openly stating its a vote for mech reasons makes it that bad?
Though I reckon you're not a fan of Jiraffe so at leas I understand that part. But Imo Square vote is kinda NAI to me.

What do you think about the previous things I said about Bosun? You have me talking here about them and I dont like much how you are trying to discredit the wagon not interacting directly with me here

[FM-Incognito]

Just finished reading the Pink Slip vs Snail part of the argument. I'm adding PinkSlip to my strong TRs till proven otherwise... which means I now have to go compare notes against Aliens assessment since I'm bound to disagree with his conclusions.

[FM-Great Speech]

This whole angle from LotL feels very towny though. Like Imma comfortably lock them town for now

I like this post, simply because it seems quite clearly right to me. "lock town" may be a little heavy on the certainty level, but it still makes sense.

btw mountain tops you had the best recovery arc in my mind through the first two pages and i will die on this hill

I like this post a priori, but would like to hear more regarding the recovery. Mountain Tops has been tonally cool forever, as far as I can tell; they're rather towny, but I haven't seen anything that makes me want to clear them entirely. Help me find what you're finding @FM-Zoomer Power

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

What about the fact of a lurker openly stating its a vote for mech reasons makes it that bad?
Though I reckon you're not a fan of Jiraffe so at leas I understand that part. But Imo Square vote is kinda NAI to me.

What do you think about the previous things I said about Bosun? You have me talking here about them and I dont like much how you are trying to discredit the wagon not interacting directly with me here

Don't worry I'm about to interact directly with you for a different reason, but I'll address this first.

Do you have a reason to townread white square? This lurker who has had minimal interaction with the game outside of fluff/flavor posting (the only things I remember them commenting about are making fun of my font choices (which doesnt make sense because my font choices are perfectly normal)) comes out of hiding, claims a vote on a wagon that I've previously expressed I am hesitant to follow for reasons they are being intentionally obtuse about, and you question my reaction to not want to associate with it?

I stand by what I said earlier about Bosun. They had a series of rapid posts that felt organic to me. That's enough for me to not want to push that line for today. You haven't produced anything new, all that you've done is say that you read their ISO and you don't like it. Which is fair! You are welcome to do that. That action, by itself, is fine and even good. What you are not welcome to do is paint me in a poor light because I haven't responded to your lack of actual tangible development on Bosun that lead to him rapidly receiving four votes.

[FM-Great Speech]

Looking at Bosun's ISO. Preliminary gut was to just like them, so not sure why they're being voted

early ISO is just having fun

@FM-Purple Forest i forgor which i believe means they're not that strong tbh

this is good, relatable as town (saying they forgot about their own reads)

lots of stream of consciousness, nothing pings me the wrong way, alright

Girl towny or wolfy easy question
is the ISO more towny than wolfy or more wolfy than towny

i liked this a lot, especially with the "ok" when I kept messing with them by saying "wolny" and "tolfy" lol. Looks like town just having fun and trying to evaluate with a very "live" playstyle, and nothing really contradicts this


Alright so preliminary thoughts confirmed by ISO; @ voters, care to explain why this wagon is a thing?

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

@FM-Snail Streamer To turn the tables around completely on you, I dislike how you have completely ignored my requests to look into Mtn Dew Horse alongside me and completely ignored my posts analyzing him. I have posted significantly more detailed thoughts about why I dislike the slot. You have interacted with him or even acknowledged his existence a total of one time (in a brief skim of your ISO). Are you intentionally ignoring the slot? From where I am sitting it looks like you are trying to distance yourself from him so that if one of you flip the other one is not implicated.

Regardless of whether or not you have intentionally abstained from having literally any commentary on Mtn Dew Horse I am going to somewhat strongly ask for your opinions on the slot and an explanation for why you reacted so strongly to me as to imply I'm avoiding you while simultaneously completely avoiding the solving I'm actively doing in the thread that you were invited to.

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

[FONT=Book Antiqua @FM-Snail Streamer To turn the tables around completely on you, I dislike how you have completely ignored my requests to look into Mtn Dew Horse alongside me and completely ignored my posts analyzing him. I have posted significantly more detailed thoughts about why I dislike the slot. You have interacted with him or even acknowledged his existence a total of one time (in a brief skim of your ISO). Are you intentionally ignoring the slot? From where I am sitting it looks like you are trying to distance yourself from him so that if one of you flip the other one is not implicated.

Regardless of whether or not you have intentionally abstained from having literally any commentary on Mtn Dew Horse I am going to somewhat strongly ask for your opinions on the slot and an explanation for why you reacted so strongly to me as to imply I'm avoiding you while simultaneously completely avoiding the solving I'm actively doing in the thread that you were invited to.[/FONT]

The mention code is pretty cursed @FM-Snail Streamer I forgot that it's not always easy to tag someone

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

I will reconsider a vote on Bosun on the precondition that you actually provide receipts of some of the posts you don't like. I want to see something that I can agree or disagree with.

[FM-Great Speech]

-vote FM-Dirty Harry

Because on ISO I agree with Wine mums push here. Most of the posts are kinda agreeing with others, not looking to make reads or waves themself but rather trying to just meld into the background it feels and stand behind others opinions

Aye, and afaik, they haven't even reacted positively to pressure at all, which is another red flag, considering they are not an inactive.

looking at ISO: nothing really contradicts this. #699, which is very long and which I am not going to quote for the sake of brevity, doesn't really change that. I do not see how it is compelling at all, and just feel disconnected from Harry here.

[FM-Jiraffe]

oh my b

-vote FM-Bosun

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

oh my b

-vote FM-Bosun

Why Bosun? Can somebody please justify this to me? I don't get it.

[FM-Incognito]

Well, I can see Aliens pov but disagree with his assessment, I agree more with Pink Slip on a personal playstyle way. Being able to follow Pink Slips logical arguments right till the end of the argument. Her 1st paragraph in 414 is gold in my books.

Might have to revisit Jif if he posts his viewpoint on how things went down, we seem to be on different pages.
Anyways, I'm off for the night - will be back a bit tomorrow.

[FM-Great Speech]

Spoiler : long post :

Finally caught up,



Conclusion is a bit of a strong word since I've been mostly busy reading, trying to remember who is who with the avatars. When I was online most of the first day, there was so much fluff/jokes/RPing going on that nothing really pinged me in a note worthy way the required reaction to (save for Iris). There are a lot of posts that I agree with, and plenty that I disagree with, but almost all those posts relate to playstyles, common meta, and general information, nothing that really indicates alignment one way or another. In terms of the meatier matters, which happened after I went to bed yesterday, I barely had a chance to process what I read on my phone this morning before heading out. I still need to reread those 400ish posts. Off the top of my head, this is what I feel on people:

Aliens Are Real - President, has extra votes, possibly other abilities that he does not wish to share, mods confirmed extra votes, has a case against pink slip that I want to go ISO read for myself since his mega post only had post numbers and didn't really add context.

Angry Clown - annoying RP, didn't take note of anything substantial without looking at his ISO

Bosun - lots of obvious scumtells posted as jokes, either waiting to see who will take his bait or is just annoying, was using him to test reactions on others but he is still following the same mentality instead of changing gears, thus faking activity and coasting, a negative in my books. (on a sidenote, with all the talk about smug viking, I thought people were talking about him with his boat and ya har har avatar.. certainly got confused between the two and need to reread now that I have differentiated the two)

Dirty Harry - san, chan, sama.. had a hard time reading this guys posts, not sure if this is deliberate to make me ignore the contents. Content wise, I find it lacking save for 1 post where he tries to contribute to snippy, slip jiffy argument and even that I had a hard time following because he called someone Slippy... is he referring to slip or snippy.

Fast Fish - spent the first part of the day deliberately and obviously taking all the bait he could eat, intentionally failing reaction tests to the point that he himself became a reaction test for others. He continues to deliberately antagonize people so far as to leave the thread when asked a question. He is acting so scummy it is obvious that he wants us to know he is acting scummy. Then in the middle of all those jokes and fluff, there are a few reads of his own, although most of his non joke posts are asking other for reads instead of posting his thougths.. To me, he is useful as in he is bait that causes reactions, reactions that shouldn't happen if someone is paying attention to what he is actually doing.

Gay Cat Rock - who?

Great Speech - vaguely remember his avatar, he showed up later thus I haven't reread enough to remember what he said.

Green Nya - who?

Happy Drunk - I remember agreeing to his posts, but forget what he said - nothing negative caught my eye to note down.

Jiraffe - like I said earlier, I need to revisit the argument now that I'm on my pc to get a clearer view with context how that started (phones suck for mafia, need to see avatars to remember people in anon games)

Lady of the Lake - small text asshole who proudly voted for Aliens, hated reading his posts, only notable contribution I liked was he resolved the "how did you see the avatars before game" question before I had a chance to question clown myself.

Lolcat - who?

Lovely Bug - who?

Mountain Tops - I know I've seen his avatar but can't remember what he posted, I don't think it was as much nonsense as the others

Mtn Dew Horse - had an ok start but quality dropped when he came back later in the game, might be because of IRL time or like me, catching up is harder to remember everything when you aren't reading it live. I also get the impression he is deliberately trying to mask his identity by pretending to not know how to vote, could be real but that is the vibe I'm getting and I can't expand much on this publicly without risking the wrath of the mods.

My Plants - playstyle is quick to conclusions without really digging deeper, will take note when the real voting starts how he gets on and off wagons to judge

Orange Iris - radioman RP (I hear Donny Vermillion voice from SC2 reading his posts, bad vibes just from that, I hated Donny), while I agree with his post about some people don't read their role PM and how effective it can be, I've done it myself in the past, his quote at fish with it, still has me puzzled, maybe I didn't read Fish the same way as he did but either way it's his post where he built a case against me, laid out his thoughts and peaced out before I could reply, I even agree with part of his post about the paranoid town who suspects everyone (that is my playstyle regardless of alignment). His "and perhaps I'll support this vote in the future." is a red flag for me as he let Wine and Snail do the heavier lifting. But the fact he also said it aloud is double wifom for me.. haven't pieced how exactly to view him yet but I certainly have bad vibes. The persistent newsman RP giving out general commentary of what others have said is bugging me more than anyone else at this time.

Pink Slip - need to reread with context before I say much, but initial thoughts was I agreed with most general statements made by him, can't remember much though and certainly need to ISO him

Purple Forest - scares me playstyle wise, found myself agreeing with him too much for my liking, feel like he might pocket me if I'm not careful.

Raincoat Cat - who?

Ryast - soo many posts it's mostly a blur what all he said, I remember disagreeing with him and accusing him for over the top reactions on why I didn't ping aliens but I didn't really pay attention to his mass post catch up.

Sassy Witch - who?

Smug Viking - I thought he was Bosum (avatar).... can't remember who he actually is

Snail Streamer - not a fan of the streamer RP but it's not as dominating in your posts like some others, disagree with you mafia being more active n0 but can't comment on why (rules). You obviously don't like me mech hunting about the president role but the way I see it, if mafia get info about it, they aren't gonna share any of it with us and the president role is very much part of my responsibility since it requires voting. I get Ryast complaining I didn't ask Aliens about the role and you complaining I am asking about it for those who voted Aliens. And that is as far as I got reading you because I am emotionally biased now, not to mention to went after fish bait right after that.

Snippy - guy with scissors, part of argument that happened while I slept and only skimmed over with phone in the morning, need to reread

Tiny Sandwich - who? ok, I saw him most recently but I didn't take note anything about him

Wasteland - who? he voted me? I didn't even notice that

White Square - mad about his own avatar fluff... and screw you for making your font small! only post I liked was his reverse course on the great speech even though I didn't look into it myself

Wine Mom - Her vote on me feels influenced by Iris, even the post she voted me has no context to the vote. But later posts show that she is just very confident and bullies her opinion around freely even with anyone else, don't like the playstyle, gives bad vibes that she jump on me without context and moved on as if nothing happened but I've seen this in either alignment from certain players.

Zoomer Power - who?


Now - looks like there is another 50 posts that I need to read before diving into what happened during the IRL night.

my god. P E R F O R M A T I V E

I do not feel this worldview. I do not see what this guy describes. Furthermore, what he describes isn't even really useful. This is an immense air sandwich, and I'm not eating it. Down to the scum pile you go

[FM-Jiraffe]

Looking at Bosun's ISO. Preliminary gut was to just like them, so not sure why they're being voted

early ISO is just having fun



this is good, relatable as town (saying they forgot about their own reads)

lots of stream of consciousness, nothing pings me the wrong way, alright



i liked this a lot, especially with the "ok" when I kept messing with them by saying "wolny" and "tolfy" lol. Looks like town just having fun and trying to evaluate with a very "live" playstyle, and nothing really contradicts this


Alright so preliminary thoughts confirmed by ISO; @ voters, care to explain why this wagon is a thing?

ok but like
is this stuff expilictly towny? to me it isnt. to me this is like, pretty null, so its w/e right? the thing that makes me scumread them is the fact so many people townread them off pretty null reasons, even the reasons youre stating here i don't follow

"i forgot my own reads" i have said this so many times both as town, bc i forgot, and wolf, bc i forgot what my reads were supposed to be. its nothing

"is the iso towny or wolfy" this is like. Such a basic question. what about it is actually towny besides the fact they're saying it in a fun way? just bc someones tone of voice is casual doesn't mean they're more likely to be town/scum in the slightest imo (this can change depending on the player but this is an anon game so it doesn't matter)

[FM-Great Speech]

Why Bosun? Can somebody please justify this to me? I don't get it.

+1, vibing with this and seconding the demand

[FM-Jiraffe]

Why Bosun? Can somebody please justify this to me? I don't get it.

well why not bosun? what about bosun do you specifically not get as a wagon? i don't see why they've done anything towny yet many people are very against the wagon on their slot and townread them for, imo, fairly NAI reasons

[FM-Jiraffe]

Well, I can see Aliens pov but disagree with his assessment, I agree more with Pink Slip on a personal playstyle way. Being able to follow Pink Slips logical arguments right till the end of the argument. Her 1st paragraph in 414 is gold in my books.

Might have to revisit Jif if he posts his viewpoint on how things went down, we seem to be on different pages.
Anyways, I'm off for the night - will be back a bit tomorrow.

again, i use she/her @FM-Incognito
in case u missed it last time

[FM-Great Speech]

ok but like
is this stuff expilictly towny? to me it isnt. to me this is like, pretty null, so its w/e right? the thing that makes me scumread them is the fact so many people townread them off pretty null reasons, even the reasons youre stating here i don't follow

"i forgot my own reads" i have said this so many times both as town, bc i forgot, and wolf, bc i forgot what my reads were supposed to be. its nothing

"is the iso towny or wolfy" this is like. Such a basic question. what about it is actually towny besides the fact they're saying it in a fun way? just bc someones tone of voice is casual doesn't mean they're more likely to be town/scum in the slightest imo (this can change depending on the player but this is an anon game so it doesn't matter)

I will let Bosun defend themselves because it's their job lol (they do need to contribute more btw), but I will say:
- Forgetting about your own reads is very much a town experience, especially when you're so open about it. It felt natural, not forced or like "uhh i forgot my scum narrative", and it just matches the general tone.
- Casual tone is NAI, sure, but the general pokey-investigative behavior is town indicative imo. I simply recognize patterns from a certain kind of informal town play here.
- Regarding the "basic question": sure, but they actually followed up on their question, and when I intentionally reacted "strangely" to see where they'd go, the "ok" just seemed very... real. Scum would have some agenda that wouldn't match just letting it go; I read this as town noticing they aren't going anywhere and went on a bad route.

As for "many people townread them", um, I'm not seeing that right now lol

[FM-Ryast]

After doing a few un-mentioned ISOs on people I am currently interested in, and given the current vote count (down below), I've come to conclusion that I'll withold my vote till I get back at EoD.

However I'm not going to say I'm not voting anyone -- I just don't want a vote lasting on someone while I'm not here till the hour before EoD. So with that said if I had to snap vote right now it'd be on Bosun. I did have a positive read on them when I headed off yesterday but that was summed up a time when I was tired and since then I think it was one of my least-substantiated reads, plus I dislike a few posts from them since then.

Spoiler : votecount ordered numerically :

FM-Bosun (4):
FM-Purple Forest, FM-Mountain Tops, FM-Snail Streamer, FM-White Square

FM-Dirty Harry (4):
FM-Angry Clown, FM-Wine Mom, FM-Great Speech, FM-Mtn Dew Horse

FM-Jiraffe (3):
FM-Snippy, FM-Happy Drunk, FM-Dirty Harry

FM-Pink Slip (1): Three votes here because president
FM-Aliens Are Real

FM-Mountain Tops (2):
FM-Fast Fish, FM-Lovely Bug

FM-Fast Fish (2):
FM-Wasteland, FM-Gay Cat Rock

FM-White Square (1):
FM-Smug Viking

FM-Mtn Dew Horse (1):
FM-Lady of the Lake

FM-Angry Clown (1):
FM-Lolcat

FM-Wasteland (1):
FM-Pink Slip

FM-Purple Forest (1):
FM-Zoomer Power

FM-Incognito (1):
FM-Raincoat Cat

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

well why not bosun? what about bosun do you specifically not get as a wagon? i don't see why they've done anything towny yet many people are very against the wagon on their slot and townread them for, imo, fairly NAI reasons

I don't even know how to respond to this.

I have asked you to explain why you have voted Bosun and you did not say a single thing about Bosun. All you did was talk about everyone else.

Explain why you voted Bosun. Why Bosun? Why specifically Bosun?

Don't let someone else explain it for you. You should be able to explain why you placed your vote. You're the one responsible for it, after all.

[FM-Jiraffe]

I went back to sanity check myself and do a recopilation of the Bosun trs

heres an example of many people tring bosun @FM-Great Speech

[FM-Dirty Harry]

Hi im too lazy to backread interact pls
someone remind me why Bosun is scummy, I remember they did something but idk what.

idk if im gonna be able to be on around eod cuz i gotta drive to school then but
I think my poe is like:

Jiraffe
Horse
Incog
White

keep eye on fish

Never lynch today:

Lady
Pink
Mountain

prob what im gonna be centering my town core around