S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Is there a reason on why Wasteland is not on the Lurker list?

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Will dive into pinks response when I have real time to focus. I do not want to half ass while distracted and unable to dig through the thread for context.

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Why if does it not line up if Viking voted for Pink Slip? Scum doesmt know if other townies can randomly vote other scum aswell . So specially if scum wasnt allowed to coordinate votes feels like something that *could* happen .

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Is there a reason on why Wasteland is not on the Lurker list?

I havent looked at them. There is quite a few people I would certainly add to the list if I isoed. 31 player game and I have looked through like 10

[FM-Aliens Are Real]

Why if does it not line up if Viking voted for Pink Slip? Scum doesmt know if other townies can randomly vote other scum aswell . So specially if scum wasnt allowed to coordinate votes feels like something that *could* happen .

Solid point. I did not consider that.

[FM-Wine Mom]

Snail Streamer appears to be town as well.



Though I disagree with some of your stances, Snail -- I will go over those some time later today.

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Okay just on page 6 and generally like Ryasts posts can like mentally feel their wheels spinning while reading it even more in that dead air time where mostly they are on (Yes there are a few middle posts but they are random and not related to the topics around them.)

Like it's just very towny of a sequence of posts

Sorry the absence but just super busy start of this week

[FM-Great Speech]

@FM-Great Speech
For the record I think that’s more a stylistic thing but also I would ~wager a guess that the 70/100 thing is in reference to the random chance of any given player of being town (as opposed to mafia), which is generally ~70-75%.

Admittedly I don’t like your read here on that because to me it’s obviously a joke and «wolves don’t get jokes”. But also after not ~really liking your prior posts tonally I continue to not be a fan. Can you @ me with some other strong reads on some slots, or if you update your read on Ryast at all?

Wh... what? If this is a joke, it's a subtle one lol. "it's obviously a joke" is leagues away from my thoughts, even after you explain the "joke", so... I mean, no?

As for pinging you, um, you're probably asking me to ping you in every post I'll make at this point, so I'll try to pick something that's particularly meaningful if you want lol.

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Lovely Bug is by far my favorite Icon as of right now (To this post page 7)

When I am a wolf the game always feels like a hot tub. You need to get into it (not too quickly) because if you're standing there somebody is gonna ask you to bring them a beer and you'll never get there.

That doesn't mean somebody did a belly flop into the hot tub. But it most assuredly means somebody who is a wolf is playing footsies under the jets. If you catch my drift.

This post just feels off like my gut is screaming at it.
Like it doesn't seem on the surface that AI just doesn't sit right almost feels like trying to create extra doubt early at least as my interputation of it.

Making a note to ISO fish after work

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Did you know that there are moments in which a single snail can make a world go extinct?

Well if the whole world goes extinct it'd be a pretty fast game think I had a spell for that back in the day hehehe those were the days!

It's okay, its just my gut feeling! If I had anything to sus Purple Forest I'd be telling it

At most Im slightly pinged because Im not liking their post, and they are shaped like I *should* be tring that shit. But its perfectly plausible for the skill issue to be on me. Regardless that's why I said its not a D1 issue

I feel this up to here I don't feel a energy either way from the walls which am leaning is a skill issue on my end so I likely lean to see where those walls GO for later today/tomorrow before forcing myself to make a conclusion

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Okay am out till later again

Do as a base like snail/Aliens but that's mostly cause from what I feel and skimed they are leading thread in ways I generally agree with though is something I should ISO

But work time

[FM-Great Speech]

Re:
"It makes little sense, from a town perspective, to put in the effort to state the certainty level of an entirely new read without justifying the read in any way whatsoever."

There are a few reasons, here are three. First is that you are not entitled to my reasoning the moment I proclaim a read, and you can always just ask. Second is that I have some very close familiarity (not to be elaborated on) with posts of that sort and so that is a contributing factor to my confidence that it has a good chance coming from town rather than wolf. Third I am attempting to take this game more chill and to use my ISO as a way to make notes for myself instead of notes on discord unless I absolutely must use Discord for private notes. Discord is not good at displaying forum posts (alternatively you can link but that just means opening a tab 1 million times) and so it easily turns into something I glaze over.

- I am, of course, not morally entitled to your reasoning the moment you proclaim a read (which is how people normally use "entitled", so I'm just mentionning it to avoid ambiguities). However, I absolutely am entitled to asking questions for the sake of forming reads, and I also absolutely am entitled to questioning you and forming reads on you, whether you like the result or not lol. I am Great Speech, not Kind-Of-Average-And-Silent Speech, after all.
--- do note that those are not scummy elements, though, and I actually like the slight "fuck off" vibe I'm getting here.

- okay maybe meta or whatever, won't pry

- sure, NAI methods, etc.


Also, I've looked back at the original post

I think this is towny

I'd put it at as 70 out of 100 is the chance that I'm not wrong

and take less issue with it today, for some reason. I'll see how this evolves

[FM-Great Speech]

I....why are you using a boxing analogy?

How would someone box wolves on day 1, when there is the most room for error and plenty of non-wolves to wrongly suspect or townread? They could be anywhere and we just try to make the reads the best we can till we get somewhere more concrete with flips and mech.

Okay, you're a much less systematic player than I thought you were based on your style. ABORT MISSION

You're just going in a relatively chaotic manner until you get to mech and all, which is understandable; you're not coming from/attempting to appear to come from where I thought you were. Alright, alright, scrapping my read on you.
(And by the way, boxing wolves starting on D1 is a great playstyle, also known as townhunting. It's popular in some communities, and for good reason. So basically, I think we should at the very least try to start boxing wolves in on D1, even though it may be difficult; this game doesn't look particularly easy to figure out either. /playstyle rant)

@FM-Purple Forest i think you wanted a ping? here

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Hello chat

I'm a bit hungover

[FM-Bosun]

hii

[FM-Bosun]

happy drunk pinged me in wolf chat to get into thread with him

[FM-Happy Drunk]

happy drunk pinged me in wolf chat to get into thread with him

nuh uh you pinged me first to get my ass to wake up

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I've decided I don't like pink slip and smug viking

I like orange iris and aliens are real

[FM-Bosun]

Don't worry, I posted that to be funny.



@FM-Angry Clown ,
Can you speak a bit about why you're reading Mountian Tops well? It's not a read that I can follow at that point in time. And I'd like your take on Bosun, what with all the bells and whistles.



@FM-Bosun
Do you have any reads on any slots this game? {note: I saw that you had posted some lightly later, could you repeat and clarify reasoning for them?}



This is a simple thing, but it's a good thing to note and callout, and implies at minimum an eye for detail and inner workings of the mind. (To put more clearly, I think its ultimately villagery to point this out and will add Mountain into my own town forest, but accept that this is also something that is minimally easy for a scumboni to do).



I don't disagree and I'm glad to see pressure there. The only thing I have to really note on the slot is that I get the feeling they're likely a "scummy" player regardless of alignment, but would still lean scum at this juncture from what I've seen.



I quoted the wrong thing I think, but I want to unpair you and Wine Mom from this and Wine Mom's reaction I think. [Also, @FM-Wine Mom , I actually think a wolfmate would more likely not respond this way to a w!Bosun gaining heat, and instead likely deflect or +1 on a village push elsewhere. {Which, actually, makes me want to look at Clown's push on Harry now. But I won't.}]



Think this post is probably towny for bad reasons, not really sure how I'd explain but it just kind of feels towny.



Generally it depends, but either way, if collusion is not enabled, wolves are still generally free to share the event information. @FM-Snail Streamer , have you any reads or focuses as of yet; notably would not mind your own thoughts onto Wine Mom.

@FM-Purple Forest i forgor which i believe means they're not that strong tbh

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Because I realized that if we all just vote for ourselves, then we were handing the mafia a free election. So I didn't vote for myself. contrary to what wine lady thinks was smart

As for why Fast Fish? I literally threw the player list into random.org and his name ended up on top. I figured that with no info, a random vote at least has a higher chance to be on town than on scum and a 1/30 chance to be on the person scum would be voting for. Just a matter of probabilities, did I think Fish would win? No... but it does reveal to me that Fish did not vote for himself since my vote is the only vote he got, still not sure if he voted for someone else or did not vote at all. (and I'm not gonna ask him since he didn't reply to that drunk fellow who asked everyone who we voted for)

If mafia "hands themselves" the election then that makes the winner and whoever voted for them immediately suspect. It was smart to self-vote since as town on n0 you have literally zero idea who you are voting for, best to let the wolves overthink it and show their hand. Alas

[FM-Bosun]

nuh uh you pinged me first to get my ass to wake up

liar. kill all liars

[FM-Bosun]

wow thats a towny post i think happy drunk is town

[FM-Bosun]

actually no its not as towny as i thought it was.,,, happy drunk maybe town

[FM-Bosun]

confession: i forgot to vote for president

[FM-Happy Drunk]

actually no its not as towny as i thought it was.,,, happy drunk maybe town

I went through your ISO right now and I'm not pinged either which way, not terribly surprising since this has been a relatively quiet game compared to prior years, but also I can't really say much since I haven't spoken a lot yet.

[FM-Bosun]

Aliens could be town tbh idk
winning the election is inherently wolfy because wolves know who each other are and. can boost a partner but like there's a 90% chance they just won because their name is alphabetically first

[FM-Bosun]

oh i remembered now i liked purple forest purple forest was towny

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Aliens could be town tbh idk
winning the election is inherently wolfy because wolves know who each other are and. can boost a partner but like there's a 90% chance they just won because their name is alphabetically first

I'm fairly convinced that most of alien's votes were cast because funny name

[FM-Happy Drunk]

wow thats a towny post i think happy drunk is town

Enough about votes for now though, you've talked about me since your 4th post of the game, then you come in thread with banter ready to go with me, why?

Are you trying to force some sort of connection here?

[FM-Bosun]

Ok. Town bin is now the happy alcoholic the forest and mr president. none of these are particularly confident but they're town nayway because that's how the universe works

[FM-Dirty Harry]

Ohayo everyone, I don't think the neko thing is necessarily NAI, if you ignore the neko thing, I would argue Pink-san has made original points coming from a towny, In their response #

593

I don't really see any flaws with their argument and imo President-sama, you are strawmanning a little here.

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Was this because I said I was very pocketable to one of the other slots

[FM-Wine Mom]

Enough about votes for now though, you've talked about me since your 4th post of the game, then you come in thread with banter ready to go with me, why?

Are you trying to force some sort of connection here?

xd

Funny

[FM-Great Speech]

Going through Snail's ISO because it looks like they're an important topic... well, that was a nice 64 posts of not much interesting. I understand this is early D1, but early D1 means trying to shake the tree a little, especially when you're active (i.e. have lots of time to dedicate to the game). Snail is... the opposite. They're just a resounding meh over half a hundred posts, and I don't feel the solviness, the pressure attempts, etc. Reading their ISO made me feel like my brain was covered in goo. Perhaps it actually is covered in goo at the moment, but regardless, I do not like it. I wouldn't say they are positively scummy, though, just lacking in density maybe? Should this carry on for much longer, Snail would become guilty of the heinous crime of not being towny, though.

[FM-Bosun]

Enough about votes for now though, you've talked about me since your 4th post of the game, then you come in thread with banter ready to go with me, why?

Are you trying to force some sort of connection here?

the first mention was bc i was scrolling graveyard and ur name was funny
the second was because we both happened to join thread within two min of each other and that was also funny
idk pure coincidence

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Going through Snail's ISO because it looks like they're an important topic... well, that was a nice 64 posts of not much interesting. I understand this is early D1, but early D1 means trying to shake the tree a little, especially when you're active (i.e. have lots of time to dedicate to the game). Snail is... the opposite. They're just a resounding meh over half a hundred posts, and I don't feel the solviness, the pressure attempts, etc. Reading their ISO made me feel like my brain was covered in goo. Perhaps it actually is covered in goo at the moment, but regardless, I do not like it. I wouldn't say they are positively scummy, though, just lacking in density maybe? Should this carry on for much longer, Snail would become guilty of the heinous crime of not being towny, though.

That was a lot of words to say their iso is mid

[FM-Wine Mom]

xd

Funny

Not going to lie Drunk that was one of your wolfier posts but your posting otherwise has been decent

[FM-Happy Drunk]

the first mention was bc i was scrolling graveyard and ur name was funny
the second was because we both happened to join thread within two min of each other and that was also funny
idk pure coincidence

Fair enough

[FM-Bosun]

Going through Snail's ISO because it looks like they're an important topic... well, that was a nice 64 posts of not much interesting. I understand this is early D1, but early D1 means trying to shake the tree a little, especially when you're active (i.e. have lots of time to dedicate to the game). Snail is... the opposite. They're just a resounding meh over half a hundred posts, and I don't feel the solviness, the pressure attempts, etc. Reading their ISO made me feel like my brain was covered in goo. Perhaps it actually is covered in goo at the moment, but regardless, I do not like it. I wouldn't say they are positively scummy, though, just lacking in density maybe? Should this carry on for much longer, Snail would become guilty of the heinous crime of not being towny, though.

Holy hedging
commit to a stance. towny or wolfy @FM-Great Speech

[FM-Bosun]

no nulls you read 68 posts and have enough knowledge on them to call an alignment. that post was wolfy hedge so commit to a read there

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Not going to lie Drunk that was one of your wolfier posts but your posting otherwise has been decent

Glad to know my drunk ramblings have been "decent"

[FM-Bosun]

alcoholism makes you towny

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Did anyone receive doubloons?
I got some doubloons, no one is talking about that

[FM-Wine Mom]

Wow, Bosun continues to somehow exude scumminess even when they bring up points I agree with. Not sure what that means.

[FM-Bosun]

Not going to lie Drunk that was one of your wolfier posts but your posting otherwise has been decent

i thought it was at worst nai at best towny why do u think it's bad
imo being concerned abt someone trying to pair themselves to u is towny no?

[FM-Bosun]

Wow, Bosun continues to somehow exude scumminess even when they bring up points I agree with. Not sure what that means.

lay off the wine that might help

[FM-Wine Mom]

Did anyone receive doubloons?
I got some doubloons, no one is talking about that

No, did you receive them after N0 or with your rolecard? If it's the latter, it might be completely inconsequential.

[FM-Bosun]

i have no doubloons but my pm fat shamed me which was incredibly offensive and i WILL be pressing charges

[FM-Happy Drunk]

No, did you receive them after N0 or with your rolecard? If it's the latter, it might be completely inconsequential.

i have no doubloons but my pm fat shamed me which was incredibly offensive and i WILL be pressing charges

Fascinating

I want to learn more about what came with the role pms, there's a mystery here and I'm finding myself really drawn to it

[FM-Bosun]

plants also had a weird post afaik lemme find that