I'm Spartacus Game Thread

[powerofdeath]

Okay just got on, my biggest problem with lynching brendan is this: we will never ever really know if Brendan will flip town or not. He will flip spartacus.

[powerofdeath]

I prefer to vote somewhere like superjack tbh.

-vote SuperJack

I sorta have few townreads, so I'm just working through my PoEs atm, and SJ is in it.

[powerofdeath]

I rather save brendan for tomorrow if we sort out the claims for tomorrow. Even if he was town spartacus i just dont see mafia killing him anyway.

[oliverz144]

erm guys i would love to be here for EOD but im on a concert so i might not be here in time... expected end is 1.5h past eod, maybe the pause will fall into the correct timeframe but i cant promise nothing :/

[oliverz144]

I honestly feel like Nightbringer was really scummy this day, and i really think we should lynch him today.

[oliverz144]

the reasoning for my scumread are:
mech-focus overr the past phase (which diverts attention from the solving)
Strange MM reads

[oliverz144]

I am also trying to not get killed by martin

[oliverz144]

yeah 3 to go

[oliverz144]

i dont think my reads are legacy worthy

[powerofdeath]

I honestly feel like Nightbringer was really scummy this day, and i really think we should lynch him today.

Any reasons why? He was like 3x more active than 2nd most active player this game, so just 1 post or reason of him being scummy would be quite helpful to rest of town

[oliverz144]

good luck!

[powerofdeath]

I'm still thinking that lynching a Spartacus claim day 1 is a mistake.

Brendan's flip will give us 0 info. Town will be in a bad spot Day 2+beyond with confusion of "was brendan town or not" derailing discussion and scumhunting.

Just would prefer to vote outside since the fact we can pretty much massclaim that will probably benefit town if the pool of slave claims and spartacus claims are both small enough.

[powerofdeath]

Interesting, that being said , you claiming Spartacus gives u 33% of being scum. I also have no reason to believe for you to be town either.

And why would we not lynch d1?

Think he meant if everyone agree hes clear and we just lynch randomly among the 8 people outside of him its 25% chance to be right. You're right we 100% are lynching today because not lynching today mean town's # of mislynches go from 2 to 1 before loss.

Oh, it would seem Brendan did in fact say things...


Didn't we already establish that we were at least waiting on the N1 kill and hoping for it to land on a town Spartacus to narrow down that pool? Besides, there is literally a scum Spartacus, so you are not exactly convincing me that you're town lol.

To any town Spartacuses (Spartaci?): do not claim yet. This may be scum attempting to bait you to plan nightkills accordingly.


What really matters here is Brendan's intent behind his claim. It's difficult to establish it clearly right now, but I don't see a town motivation here (especially since this was already discussed mech-wise), mostly a scum one. I'm happy with my vote.

So while you might be right, Scum?Brendan could be trying to bait claim/or preparing in advance to not be voted. I'm trying to see the intent of town?Brendan claiming as spartacus, he might be trying to rally people to vote with him.

[powerofdeath]

In an effort to make things more interesting, and as a gesture of good faith to my fellow town, I would like to reveal that I am Spartacus.

-vote The Nightbringer

Leaving this here until I hear from him. If I were evil I'd try to come out of the gate leading the town. I'd want at least one active "town" voice out of the two slots...

What could my intentions be.. there's so much mystery behind them...

I find Brendan's line pretty ironic. Brendan came out of the gate with his claim, trying to lead the town to vote Nightbringer. Yet says if he were evil he would come out of the gate, trying to lead the town.

[The Nightbringer]

Heheheheh! I sense that a scum just realized the corner he's being forced into. I now absolutely want to lynch Brendan if he does flip Spartacus. If the other 2 sparticus' claim tomorrow as planned, then the mafia night kills with confirm Brendan's alignment because the mafia will know that if the game goes to final 3 or final 4 and no other sparticus' are dead then Brendan HAS to be scum Spartacus and we end up with 2 confirmed town in endgame.

Mafia would have no choice but to kill the other sparticuses which in itself is confirmation of Brendan's alignment.

Either case, if Brendan flips Spartacus, we don't lynch any other sparticuses until the final day.

The fact that I believe you are good enough to know that, especially after our mech chat just put you to the top 2 spots in my PoE POD for trying to derail the Brendan vote so late in the day... Like really, you popped in with less than 2 hours left in a 48h day and are literally just going after another lurker... What if SJ claims Spartacus, would you jump to another random person?

My vote stays and is solidified on Brendan.

[powerofdeath]

I guess Oliver is gone.

Well, my current pov on him is this: Would Scum?Oliver jump on the mass wagons on brendan and make it bigger for easy mislynch? Or would scum?Oliver join a counterwagon against one of the loudest player in the game.

I feel like he would probably do option A. The only way I could see him being Mafia is if hes also mafia with Brendan and is trying to protect him.

[powerofdeath]

Heheheheh! I sense that a scum just realized the corner he's being forced into. I now absolutely want to lynch Brendan if he does flip Spartacus. If the other 2 sparticus' claim tomorrow as planned, then the mafia night kills with confirm Brendan's alignment because the mafia will know that if the game goes to final 3 or final 4 and no other sparticus' are dead then Brendan HAS to be scum Spartacus and we end up with 2 confirmed town in endgame.

Mafia would have no choice but to kill the other sparticuses which in itself is confirmation of Brendan's alignment.

Either case, if Brendan flips Spartacus, we don't lynch any other sparticuses until the final day.

The fact that I believe you are good enough to know that, especially after our mech chat just put you to the top 2 spots in my PoE POD for trying to derail the Brendan vote so late in the day... Like really, you popped in with less than 2 hours left in a 48h day and are literally just going after another lurker... What if SJ claims Spartacus, would you jump to another random person?

My vote stays and is solidified on Brendan.

This theory is wild because Im town. Game is never going to final 3. Lynching Brendan means we will 100% have to lynch in slave claims for the rest of the game until mafia get flipped.

[powerofdeath]

This theory is wild because Im town. Game is never going to final 3. Lynching Brendan means we will 100% have to lynch in slave claims for the rest of the game until mafia get flipped.

I can say this is bad for town because if Brendan was actually town, then mafia can cruise by fakeclaiming Spartacus, and misleading town off their partner for Day 2 and 3 for quick victory.

[Taffy]

I see that if I want to show a quote chain I have to make it myself. Here you go!

I was looking at the votecount and it has me voting Gikkle but I never voted Gikkle I just quoted a vote

[powerofdeath]

I see that if I want to show a quote chain I have to make it myself. Here you go!

Probably broken quote or something here

[powerofdeath]

I was looking at the votecount and it has me voting Gikkle but I never voted Gikkle I just quoted a vote

feel free to unvote if you want

[Taffy]

Heheheheh! I sense that a scum just realized the corner he's being forced into. I now absolutely want to lynch Brendan if he does flip Spartacus. If the other 2 sparticus' claim tomorrow as planned, then the mafia night kills with confirm Brendan's alignment because the mafia will know that if the game goes to final 3 or final 4 and no other sparticus' are dead then Brendan HAS to be scum Spartacus and we end up with 2 confirmed town in endgame.

Mafia would have no choice but to kill the other sparticuses which in itself is confirmation of Brendan's alignment.

Either case, if Brendan flips Spartacus, we don't lynch any other sparticuses until the final day.

The fact that I believe you are good enough to know that, especially after our mech chat just put you to the top 2 spots in my PoE POD for trying to derail the Brendan vote so late in the day... Like really, you popped in with less than 2 hours left in a 48h day and are literally just going after another lurker... What if SJ claims Spartacus, would you jump to another random person?

My vote stays and is solidified on Brendan.

I have missed PoD's vote for SuperJack but this doesn't seem like the high octane flashy EoD where one vote is going to grow into a successful wagon

and I think pushing the claim D1 is pro-wolf

-vote The Nightbringer

[powerofdeath]

I have missed PoD's vote for SuperJack but this doesn't seem like the high octane flashy EoD where one vote is going to grow into a successful wagon

and I think pushing the claim D1 is pro-wolf

-vote The Nightbringer

Unfortunately SuperJack or any other votes arent going anywhere. Now Im stuck with having to decide between 2 wagons I don't really want to vote in.

[Taffy]

I have missed PoD's vote for SuperJack but this doesn't seem like the high octane flashy EoD where one vote is going to grow into a successful wagon

and I think pushing the claim D1 is pro-wolf

-vote The Nightbringer

I do see Marshall's point of wanting to eliminate within the low-posters, but Brendan's the only one on the board atm

[Taffy]

Unfortunately SuperJack or any other votes arent going anywhere. Now Im stuck with having to decide between 2 wagons I don't really want to vote in.

Who are your other options?

And what was your reason for voting SuperJack I haven't found it yet
I'll just say that in our recent game on MU together they also started off meh and I got quite tunnelled but then they became towny EoD2 onwards

[powerofdeath]

Who are your other options?

And what was your reason for voting SuperJack I haven't found it yet
I'll just say that in our recent game on MU together they also started off meh and I got quite tunnelled but then they became towny EoD2 onwards

Really they were on my PoEs, I was kinda willing to vote among Brendan(preclaim), SJ, Oliver, and Gikkle. I dislike how SJ kept his vote on MM after MM's towny opening appearance.

[powerofdeath]

ATM my top 2 is just Gikkle + SJ since I think Oliver wouldnt jump on that counterwagon as mafia unless Brendan was his partner.

[powerofdeath]

But Gikkle can be punted until tomorrow, I think I will read him easier if he actually becomes active

[powerofdeath]

I'll also say this: I dont think Nightbringer is mafia despite his latest post being mega scummy. I read his ISO like twice now. I'm probably gonna have to vote Brendan here rather leave it to RNG.

-vote Brendan

[powerofdeath]

I'm just a little frustrated because I'm gonna play rest of the game not knowing whether Brendan flip town or not.

[Taffy]

Really they were on my PoEs, I was kinda willing to vote among Brendan(preclaim), SJ, Oliver, and Gikkle. I dislike how SJ kept his vote on MM after MM's towny opening appearance.

Why Gikkle?

Why is Ewian not on the list?

I could vote Oliver but I thought he was getting mod killed

[powerofdeath]

Why Gikkle?

Why is Ewian not on the list?

I could vote Oliver but I thought he was getting mod killed

oliver posted a bunch of 1 liners an hour ago before going to concert.

I felt like Ewian was trying to solve this game unlike the 4 others. Gikkle due to PoEs(process of eliminations).

[Taffy]

oliver posted a bunch of 1 liners an hour ago before going to concert.

I felt like Ewian was trying to solve this game unlike the 4 others. Gikkle due to PoEs(process of eliminations).

I remember feeling that of the three lowposter (who at the time were Ewian, Brendan and Olli), Ewian was trying to look town and the other two were just blatantly slanking
and I want to give Gikkle a pass till D2 bc it was clear even before the game that he wouldn't be able to play D1

[The Nightbringer]

Worse case scenario is we Lynch a slave... Which Brendan has already said he is not. Because there is no trains, no arguments nothing to analyze tomorrow if that happens. This is how I feel a SJ lynch or Oliver Lynch would result, we'd start tomorrow with no extra info. Lynching legionnaire is best case but if Brendan is scum, I'd absolutely give him the scum Spartacus role which mafia had a choice in.
If Brendan is town Spartacus, then there are ways to find out later because I doubt the scum Spartacus will claim d2 or else he would have to explain why he is alive in endgame.

I'm guessing tonight's night kill is a coin flip between MM and myself. If I die, i'm hoping MM puts POD to the fire and flames. His worse fear is that neither MM or I are the town sparticuses and he will have to contend with one of us in endgame if he doesn't want the odds to be a 50/50 endgame scénario


Anyways. Times almost up so I better post before thread is locked. Nice playing with you again MM, we'll talk after the game.

[MartinGG99]

Locking thread.

Processing EoD soon.

[MartinGG99]

All votes appear to be correct and intended.

Taffy (1 [L-998]):
Gikkle
Brendan (4 [L-995]):
ewianking, Marshmallow Marshall, The Nightbringer, powerofdeath
Marshmallow Marshall (1 [L-998]):
SuperJack
The Nightbringer (3 [L-996]):
Brendan, Taffy, oliverz144

@Brendan dies. They flip Spartacus.

Day 2 begins in 24 hours from thread lock. See discord hub for timestamp.

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[MartinGG99]

Day 2 begins COMPLETELY ON TIME ;). Yep nothing off track here just because martin may have forgot what his alarms were for after a nap.

@Gikkle has died! They were a Rebel Slave.

EoD2 is in ~48 hours.



4 votes to hammer.

[The Nightbringer]

-vote powerofdeath

You better explain exactly what information you thought lynching SJ over Brendan would gain, because from my point of view lynching SJ was a net 0 gain in info on all side with the exception of if he flipped legionaire. With no time on the clock left, no one was gonna give their thoughts on him... And what thoughts could you give other than he lurk.

[The Nightbringer]

Kinda disappointed that im alive, my schedule for the next 48h is much busyer, I'll be online mostly in the evenings and I know I won't be around for eod, maybe 6 hours prior to EOD will be my cut off so if you have anything to say that you want me to see, say it early.
@Oliver if you have any real life commitments, don't alert us last minute like d1, or I'll call BS. A concert is something you would have known about way in advanced and should have made time ahead of time to post and actually read the thread, not the rapid fire spam you hurried off yesterday.

[The Nightbringer]

@Taffy if you have any issues with me, I'd like to address them. I didn't really have a chance to to address them in detail yesterday but I assume it had to do about sparticuses claiming. I said to claim d2 not d1, not sure if you picked up on that or not and I suspect you are a Spartacus thus why you reacted as such... If there is anything else, let me know and I'll answer the best I can.

[ewianking]

Day 2 begins COMPLETELY ON TIME ;). Yep nothing off track here just because martin may have forgot what his alarms were for after a nap.

@Gikkle has died! They were a Rebel Slave.

EoD2 is in ~48 hours.



4 votes to hammer.

Man that is just rude to Gikkle.

[ewianking]

Really expected Nightbringer to be the kill tbh
though gikkle isnt outside of expectations.

If I put on the tinfoil hat because people were against nightbringer scum didnt want to confirm them town, so they went after an inactive.

[ewianking]

Roman Legionnaire
Roman Loyalist (flips as Spartacus)(d?)

Rebel Slave(d)
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Spartacus(d?)
Spartacus


or


Roman Legionnaire
Roman Loyalist (flips as Spartacus)(d?)

Rebel Slave(d)
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Spartacus(d?)
Spartacus


Either 1 legion
2 spartacus
4 slaves left
or
1 legion
1 loyalist
4 slave
1 spartacus left

[Taffy]

There are two ways we might gain info on what alignment Brendan was: if we flip the Legionnaire and the game doesn't end, he was town. If the other two Spartaci manage to score a NK, he was the wolf.

So at least there's that.

[The Nightbringer]

I'm treating today as 2t Spartacus + slaves vs legionnaire. The only circumstance that I would vote a Spartacus is if 3 people claim it.

[Taffy]

-vote powerofdeath

You better explain exactly what information you thought lynching SJ over Brendan would gain, because from my point of view lynching SJ was a net 0 gain in info on all side with the exception of if he flipped legionaire. With no time on the clock left, no one was gonna give their thoughts on him... And what thoughts could you give other than he lurk.

PoD was the one who made the deciding vote to kill Brendan, over the option to create tied wagons by voting you. Yesterday you accused PoD of voting SuperJack to create a counterwagon to his scumbuddy Brendan, and now that he proved that theory wrong you are still pushing him.

I mean there's no towncred to be had from bussing the fake Spartacus. If Brendan turns out to be the wolf you're pretty much all town.

Do you have other reasons for thinking PoD is scum than that he has a different approach to the game?

Personally he's the last person I want to vote today; he's comfortable in thread, I can't discern any agenda in his posts, we've had the same idea about how to optimally play out the mech, and he's actively contributing.

[Taffy]

@Taffy if you have any issues with me, I'd like to address them. I didn't really have a chance to to address them in detail yesterday but I assume it had to do about sparticuses claiming. I said to claim d2 not d1, not sure if you picked up on that or not and I suspect you are a Spartacus thus why you reacted as such... If there is anything else, let me know and I'll answer the best I can.

I voted you yesterday bc I had no strong scumread and you had at least twice argued for things I feel were wolfsided.

Right now what I'm seeing is that you're stubbornly continuing a sus against PoD even though your original reason for it was proven wrong, and that you are not re-evaluating based on being left alive despite being the most active player here and acting like a town leader. You're not really allowing for differing views. Such dogmatic play is often wolfy and I would not be surprised if you were the wolf!Spartacus.

You are correct though that I missed the D1/D2 difference.

[Taffy]

Roman Legionnaire
Roman Loyalist (flips as Spartacus)(d?)

Rebel Slave(d)
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Spartacus(d?)
Spartacus


or


Roman Legionnaire
Roman Loyalist (flips as Spartacus)(d?)

Rebel Slave(d)
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Rebel Slave
Spartacus(d?)
Spartacus


Either 1 legion
2 spartacus
4 slaves left
or
1 legion
1 loyalist
4 slave
1 spartacus left

Aren't those first two lists eactly the same?

[The Nightbringer]

I'm continuing my sus because I don't feel POD had a choice in his vote. Consider the alternative, if he voted me and I lost the rng tie. I flip town and POD is 100% dead today and Brendan would soon follow. By lynching Brendan, he still has a fighting chance to win people like you over to not be lynched today. It's a calculated move. That's why I'm not giving him any town points in my reads for it.

[Taffy]

Would you expect to be 100% dead tomorrow is PoD flips town?

I think that solving an entire day in a w!Brendan world is dangerous given how small the game is. We should explore both options to maximise our chances of success.