KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

[FM-Chromatography]

I don't want monet voted, honestly.

Thoughts on Dredge?

[FM-Ringmaster]

imagine we flip pisskirby and it is wolf leader

WE FOUND THE WOLF LEADER BOYS

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

Im going for it to be honest.

Yeah we might be drunk on success but I think this is now significantly more likely.

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

[FM-Eyescream]

Maybe

Or they have gone through a process of grief already
Agreeing with Scarf to buss them
They did say
King
Coupled with my surprise that they even considered the shot
With how they defended Scarf from my suss earlier today
Just jogs my paranoia here a bit

Maybe that's completely unfair
But that's my reaction

But Peekaboo can be solved
And I'm so happy they took the shot

Based
In any case

If Monet is scum then I think it's always a clear because that's always the better shot.

But I kind of get it if Monet is town. Just think they had a lot of excuses to back out without people blinking twice at them.

[FM-Lipstick]

-vote FM-Dredge

[FM-Dredge]

Anyways

Since wolves probably know about my role

For mech reasons

Can all of you @ me and tell me who you're going to vote (at any point) tomorrow? That would be huge

Catnip probably.

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

WE FOUND THE WOLF LEADER BOYS

imagine

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

signal boosting this !!!

If kirby is not deleted today, him

If he is deleted today, one of you and *maybe* monet if people can sell me on it

[FM-Eyescream]

I have no qualms with voting Kirb

[FM-Ringmaster]

Im going for it to be honest.

Yeah we might be drunk on success but I think this is now significantly more likely.

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

Usually I get a sense of us being wrong whenever people make hard pushes on people. Felt like that with pilgrim and a couple others. I didn’t get a really strong sense on ZOMB, Scarf (even though I pretty much said it was their call), Para. I feel like this is right and it makes sense if we are looking for a wolf leader.

[FM-Autumn]

I also sort of feel Scarf revealing Choo's info is like...maybe unpartnered? Especially as I have a strong feeling that info was legit.

i don't think it's unpartnered i think they just wanted it to look like it is. like i think you're the townie they claimed stuff about, and then just had to mention something from other wolf also to not spew multiple townies clear? they didn't claim any specifics about choo choo's role anyway

(very possible i'm confbiasing with this point tbh but i think choo choo just looks bad here lol)

[FM-Choo-Choo]

If kirby is not deleted today, him

If he is deleted today, one of you and *maybe* monet if people can sell me on it

tbh i have confidence that you'll find me after reading my iso

[FM-Choo-Choo]

i don't think it's unpartnered i think they just wanted it to look like it is. like i think you're the townie they claimed stuff about, and then just had to mention something from other wolf also to not spew multiple townies clear? they didn't claim any specifics about choo choo's role anyway

(very possible i'm confbiasing with this point tbh but i think choo choo just looks bad here lol)

betrayal

[FM-Eyescream]

I still think the way Scarf said Monet spewed X as town is just always TMI. They didn't say IF. Even if Monet wolfclaimed, it had the conviction of someone knowing they'd flip wolf

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

-vote FM-Dredge

hey lip

this is the most optimal vote. i understand.

is this a wolf leader read over catnip/snow?

[FM-Player 2]

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

If this flips red btw I was fully justified in shooting one of the people randomly pushing me into ITA lists

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

dredge roasting oink right before the ITAs where Oink got shot is one of the things I had them noted for

[FM-Eyescream]

though

literally right under that post is monet tagging me for the second time, in the thread, to ask who to ITA

which feels like monet spewing me town

The fact he was talking about himself in this makes me feel even stronger about it.

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

The fact he was talking about himself in this makes me feel even stronger about it.

shit

uh you might be right, actually.

[FM-Dredge]

dredge roasting oink right before the ITAs where Oink got shot is one of the things I had them noted for

I told Oink that I saw some w/w equity with Catnip if Cat flipped wolf but townread them other than that. Hindsight 20/20 -- Goblin/Catnip makes more sense.

[FM-Lipstick]

hey lip

this is the most optimal vote. i understand.

is this a wolf leader read over catnip/snow?

It's just gut where I want to go

After reading Scarf's ISO
I remember thinking their interactions with Dredge was possibly w/w as well
Reading Dredge ISO now

Yellow probably and ok vote too

[FM-Eyescream]

Scarf almost certainly spews Hat, btw

[FM-Autumn]

FM-Yellow Snow (5 [L-94]): FM-Choo-Choo, FM-Protagonist Hair, FM-Old Lickilicky, FM-Tiny Hippo, FM-Player 2

FM-Monet Rocket (5 [L-94]): FM-The Hat, FM-Chibi Minnie, FM-Eyescream, FM-Space Pizza, FM-Peekaboo

i think literally everyone voting monet is town rn lol

-vote FM-Monet Rocket

[FM-Choo-Choo]

im going to drop all my reads and just

work from there

check in with me after night phase yeah?

[FM-Bad Hair Day]

O niiiice

On another vote, why does my votes ever register?>.<

[FM-Bad Hair Day]

I'll no-vote, I have no idea what's going on anyway ^^'

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

FM-Yellow Snow (5 [L-94]): FM-Choo-Choo, FM-Protagonist Hair, FM-Old Lickilicky, FM-Tiny Hippo, FM-Player 2

FM-Monet Rocket (5 [L-94]): FM-The Hat, FM-Chibi Minnie, FM-Eyescream, FM-Space Pizza, FM-Peekaboo

i think literally everyone voting monet is town rn lol

-vote FM-Monet Rocket

Being town does not fucking mean being right

[FM-Ringmaster]

How many wolves do we think we have left btw it will influence my reads

[FM-Goldfish Bowl]

imagine we flip pisskirby and it is wolf leader

Then I would be slightly concerned
However if I do live and they are wolf leader I stand to gain something strong, that being said I don’t think I can even use it

[FM-Dredge]

What's the status on Breakup?

[FM-Chromatography]

@FM-Hippo Did you see my post?

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

Being town does not fucking mean being right

Also im psure sure at least 3 if not 4 voters on yellow snow are green

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

FM-Yellow Snow (5 [L-94]): FM-Choo-Choo, FM-Protagonist Hair, FM-Old Lickilicky, FM-Tiny Hippo, FM-Player 2

FM-Monet Rocket (5 [L-94]): FM-The Hat, FM-Chibi Minnie, FM-Eyescream, FM-Space Pizza, FM-Peekaboo

i think literally everyone voting monet is town rn lol

-vote FM-Monet Rocket

monet looks spewed from scarf

[FM-Chromatography]

@FM-Hippo Did you see my post?

@FM-Tiny Hippo

[FM-Dredge]

How many wolves do we think we have left btw it will influence my reads

should be like 5~ possibly 6. I think we've flipped 9 so far.

[FM-Ringmaster]

Thumbs Up
Quotes on here dont track who they were responding to once requoted so I'll track who they've talked about


-> To Goblin & Worg

Probably a good look for Goblin? Comes in and latches onto them a little, asking for their worldview, looking for some sort of entrance into the game. Their ISO feels a little centric around Goblin at the very least, so come across like they're looking to pocket someone that was fairly active in the thread at the time, especially with other posts like #2263 from Platypus mentioning they like Goblin - potentially good look for Platypus if so? Since if Goblin town, Thumbs could have been following what people were saying at the time for townread players, so Platypus would have a plus for being one of the people to suggest that read.


-> To Player 2

This follows on with latching onto Goblin, feeds into the Player2 push by prodding that they broke their gimmick and egging them on past a point where both had opted to leave the other be. I'm kinda conflicted on what this means for Player? Both Goblin and Player2 were going at it and being pretty rough on the other, which fosters a pretty bad thread environment for those involved, so it was better that they left each other be. So could be reigniting v/v violence? But I think later posts about Player look rough in a way that could potentially indicate w!Player rather than w!Thumbs trying to encourage v/v fighting.


-> To Peekaboo
Maybe not worth reading into too heavily but they take a different approach to talking about their other views because they almost feel like they're selling it to a spectator rather than discussing their read with anyone in particular. I dont know quite what to make of it myself but thought it was worth bringing up because it stuck out to me. GtH maybe good for Peekaboo?


-> To Player2
Coming back to Player2, there's a switch up from egging them on about their reaction to Goblin to then calling them townie and almost pushing back on Goblin instead? Which worries me since it shows they didn't really care about their read on Player to begin with, just feels like a really awkward switch up on them. I lean more towards this being scummy for Player since the walkback from egging them on to suddenly agreeing and trying to prod Goblin feels more like someone trying to avoid shading their partner too heavily and trying to potentially prevent TMIing someone as town for following them there? At a stretch it could be good for Player since instead it would be Thumbs trying to get two villas to argue again but looking at how thumbs approached Goblin vs the switchup on Player, things kinda just feel different? Bleh. Would like a second thought on this as I think there's a distinction in how they treat people but I'm not 100% on my conclusions there.


-> General post
Tinnitus noted it at the time but the actual tone of this feels awkward, especially when this was a fairly common conclusion from their back-and-forth that others like myself picked up on. Feels like they feel awkward suggesting they're unaligned, could come down to having TMI that they were unaligned but not wanting that TMI to be obvious? At least I think based on looking at how Thumb approaches them both I dont think they're w/w? So I think they had TMI that there's a wolf in Player2/Goblin and that they didnt want to throw a partner under the bus. Could be them encouraging a v/v dichotomy, but I lean more towards v/w


-> To Tinnitus
This kinda reaffirms it since they double down that their opinions arent that strong, leaves them space to be on the fence about their reads which up until this point were just primarily Player/Goblin with the one post about Peekaboo.

BOOM there's a few more I wanna look at from Thumbs but I think this post is so Player2/Goblin centric (& Peekaboo) that I'll cut off there for now and then grab the odd posts I wanna talk about separately? And leave this as more of an analysis of their interactions with those 2 specifically. Sorry this took so long D: I kept going back and forth on little side quests to double check things from them that it took a lot longer than what I wanted especially since it's only focusing a few people

Kirby tried to clear goblin here

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

also half of monet voters arent even here for EoD

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

@FM-Hippo Did you see my post?

I did, im still pretty fcking sure dredge always eats an anti claim tonight, mafia has no other target for it (as far as im aware), their role is mod posted and mafia needs to fcking kill people ASAP

[FM-Peekaboo]

What's the status on Breakup?

Idk they seem to have fallen off which is sad because I liked their earlier stuff and shooting Decepticon but Catnip made a point that there's not really that much stuff to TR them for now

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

Kirby tried to clear goblin here

Piss kirby is the one person in Naptimes initial towncore that I don't remember scarf shading at least once

[FM-Autumn]

Also im psure sure at least 3 if not 4 voters on yellow snow are green

okay i'll sheep you instead

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

(i honestly don't care that much about which one of them dies lol)

[FM-Eyescream]

monet looks spewed from scarf

Spewed wolf

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

Piss kirby is the one person in Naptimes initial towncore that I don't remember scarf shading at least once

I think scarf/kirby were in DEEP

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

Spewed wolf

let me test autumn ffs

[FM-Autumn]

does anyone remember what the shotlists looked that kirby was making? did they keep taking townies or wolves out of them?

[FM-Goldfish Bowl]

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

I really should have been more paranoid of yellow if this flips scum

[FM-The Great Flood]

Lipstick you popped off so hard omg

[FM-Goldfish Bowl]

does anyone remember what the shotlists looked that kirby was making? did they keep taking townies or wolves out of them?

I don’t remember a shot list but I remember he talked about it in neighborhood

[FM-Chromatography]

I did, im still pretty fcking sure dredge always eats an anti claim tonight, mafia has no other target for it (as far as im aware), their role is mod posted and mafia needs to fcking kill people ASAP

Sounds fair. Continue on with Kirby then and I'll talk about Dredge if he's still alive tomorrow.

[FM-Bad Hair Day]

monet looks spewed from scarf

And Goblin