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  1. ISO #3851

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    idk what to say. my townreads think you are town. i give you the chance to be town and the only original scumread you provide is the exact same one against oink that caused me to scumread you.

    i dont know if you are town or scum or playing or even care. so im good on this prob not gonna be around for eod.

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  3. ISO #3853

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    I guess without actually going into ISOing my initial recollection of Catnip’s posts have been that they’re towny but I don’t actually feel like ISOing them right now~ Frustrating that I keep intending to do these things but can’t… work up the shrimps to do them. Alas~ Do agree with Trashcan though about the later post~

    Hmm~

  4. ISO #3854

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Thinking things over for a moment, @FM-Scarf

    you seem to have been around a lot and I trust you so I got a question for you

    could you give me three slot that you trust? Like not-scum-read. Could be your top town or not or even yourself. Just three slots with a level of trust in.

    since some will probably figure, this does relate to my plans and I don't really have much of an issue of it being out in the open so long as I'm not giving significant identifiable information about my role.

    alternatively we can have someone else provide that (maybe Yellow Snow as an example) and I'll follow it but I'd prefer not.

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  6. ISO #3856

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I CAN ACCEPT THE CRITICISM THAT I HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE DISCUSSION!!! I FEEL I HAVE MADE MY THOUGHTS CLEAR, OR AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE, AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY!!!

    I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT THE "MAJORITY" OF MY POSTS ARE FLUFF, OR LACKING IN CONTENT!!!



    THIS IS THE FIRST VOTE THAT FEELS IT HAS BEEN PLACED BY A SHEEPING WOLF!!!

    Ok so I actually decided to take a look on how trueful this statement is

    Matchstick's argument is that they have contributed at least some to discussion, and looking through their ISO, I will say a lot of it is actually discussion

    see below




    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    THIS IS AN INTERESTING POINT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MORE LIKELY TO BE PLAYER-INDICATIVE THAN ALIGNMENT-INDICATIVE!!! I'D NEED MORE CONVINCING TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN ACTION THAT THIS SLOT WOULD TAKE ONLY AS TOWN!!! DOES THAT MAKE SENSE???
    Here he is stating his stance (which is more than some people have tbh)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    OF YOUR 25 POSTS, 19 OF THEM ARE FLUFF, IMAGES, OR FILLER!!!

    DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING WORTH READING TO ADD???
    Heres a post for ironically questioning people for the same things people are questioning him for


    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    WILD!!! I WILL ADDRESS THIS NOW!!!


    (1) NO, I DID NOT!
    I SAID

    WHICH I STAND BY!!! THE POST YOU ARE REFERRING TO HERE:::

    WAS NOT CRITICIZISM- ALTHOUGH I RECOGNIZE THAT MY TONE CAN EASILY ALLOW IT TO BE MISINTERPRETED THAT WAY!!!

    (2) I STAND BY MY ACCUSATION ON SSS HAVING OBSCURE REASONING!!! I CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE TWO TOWNREADS I OFFERED WERE NOT WELL-DEFINED, BUT IF YOU COUNT MY SHITPOST VOTE ON HAT A READ AND TRY TO USE THAT TO PAINT ME POORLY, YOU HAVE EITHER DONE ZERO REVIEW FOR YOUR SCUMREAD OF ME OR YOU ARE WILFULLY MISINTERPRETING WHAT I AM SAYING TO SCUMPAINT ME!!!

    (3) LMAO

    (4) LMAO
    I think this is an valid response imo. Ignoring caps and reading it normally he DOES make sense here imo

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    SURE!!!

    IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:::
    FM-Pilgrim Anatomy - REASON PREVIOUSLY LISTED!!!
    FM-Sad Super Saiyan - I COULD SEE THIS SLOT'S ACTIONS EARLY IN THE DAY AS TOWN TRYING TO MAKE THE GAME MOVE, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEIR REASONING MATCHES THAT MINDSET!!! I'M SUSPICIOUS OF THEM BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD PROPER REASONING TO BE MAKING THE MOVES THEY DID- EVEN AFTER THEY ATTEMPTED TO JUSTIFY THEM LATER ON!!! I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THEIR ISO SINCE RETURNING TO THE THREAD, HOWEVER, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COULD CHANGE MY OPINION!!!
    FM-Old Lickilicky - THEIR REASONING FOR VOTING PILGRIM ANATOMY WAS WEAK!!!
    FM-The Hat - I AM UNABLE TO FORMULATE MY REASONING INTO WORDS!!! JUST BAD VIBES FROM THIS SLOT!!!

    BEYOND THOSE FOUR, I HAVE SELECTED THE BOTTOM POSTERS THAT HAVE CHECKED IN TO ROUND OUT THE BOTTOM SIX SLOTS ON MY LIST!!!
    Posts 7 FM-Wakka Wakka
    Posts 7 FM-Heterochromia
    Posts 6 FM-Lassie
    Posts 5 FM-Fluffernuts
    Posts 4 FM-Decepticon
    Posts 4 FM-Joycat

    OUT OF THESE SIX NAMES, ONLY LASSIE STANDS OUT TO ME AS MAKING A POST THAT I REMEMBER EXISTING!!! HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT READ HALF OF THE THREAD AND DO NOT PLAN ON DOING SO UNTIL PERHAPS NIGHT 1!!!

    Read list here Its clear his bottom 6 aren't really soldified reads but the first 4 are. I havent bothered to look for his Pilgrim reasoning but he does make an argument for against SSS, and I actually do agree with him on Old Lick. The Hat I also do get some mixed vibes from but thats a basket for another day


    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I HAVE THE POINT OF VIEW THAT EVEN THOUGH PROTAGONIST'S PUSH WAS ILL-FOUNDED, I INDEPENDENTLY ARRIVED AT A SIMILAR CONCLUSION!!! IT'S AN INTERESTING SPOT TO BE IN, BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE PROTAGONIST'S JUSTIFICATION POST- ANALYZING SHITPOSTS AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN SHITPOSTS IS A SIGN OF OVERANALYZATION!!! HOWEVER, I CAN NOT LOOK PAST PILGRIM'S STRANGE BEHAVIOR SINCE RETURNING TO THE THREAD!!!

    Again I agree with him here. Protagonist did come off as pushy and there is indeed enough substance here for me to say this is contribution

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I LIKE YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE EVENTS AND I WILL SHAMELESSLY FOLLOW YOUR INTERPRETATION WHILE DOING NO CONCURRENT RESEARCH OF MY OWN!!!
    This one shows he just follows other analysis which I kinda tried to do earlier but my brain exploded so here I am ignoring literally everything going on in the thread and focusing on my own analysis since no one will explain the situation to me

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I AM INTENTIONALLY OPTING TO LEAVE THIS SLOT ALONE PRESENTLY!!! THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AS A ZERO-POSTER UNTIL THEY POST SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE!!!
    another stance

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    BECAUSE TOWN IS SO STRONG IN THIS SETUP THE NUMBERS LIKELY STRONGLY FAVOR SCUM!!!
    Opinion (not strong obviously but thoughts are thoughts)


    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Naptime View Post
    Nah actually I'm gonna take the high ground and lend my voice to this

    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    For Lipstick!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    Turns out Ringmaster isn't actually wolfy at all

    A real shame

    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    Without much hope or aim

    Now without looking at context (which I could not find posts after a 4 minute search) These seem kinda like naked votes

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Goblin and Worg View Post
    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    I would much rather this be the second wagon over Sonrisa.
    Goblin here provided a much rather, but then again I don't know the context and I'll look for that later


    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan View Post
    i still think matchstick man's weird hangup on my "unexplained" page 1-3 reads is kinda a towney fixation ngl.

    the fact he hasn't let it go despite not reading me since is a lil dumb tho

    Opinion that Matchstick is town

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Disco Dancer View Post
    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    this is the train i'm most happy to sit on for now, as much as Pilgrim is also a good option.
    ^following a train

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Bad Hair Day View Post
    Quick ISO and yeah there's nothing there that indicates thoughts of solvy character happening out of posts (compared to Pilgrim it's night and day)

    Shall we?

    -vote FM-Matchstick Man

    Here bad hair day is just objectively wrong as there are hints however miniscule in matchman's posts of thoughts, which can be used for analysis. (Not me tho, I aint doing that 50 player vca it will kill me metaphorically and spiritually)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster View Post
    -vote FM-Matchstick Man
    Naked earliest vote I could fine



    My conclusion is that Matchman seems more like a troll town. + I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt as they said they weren't reading thread until N1. Call it ATE, But i feel like this slot is a wait and see I would much rather see if they do actually uphold their promise of reading properly/providing content the next day. As for why people are voting, without context it looks like a bunch of sheep ngl

  7. ISO #3857

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Four Past Seven View Post
    Thinking things over for a moment, @FM-Scarf

    you seem to have been around a lot and I trust you so I got a question for you

    could you give me three slot that you trust? Like not-scum-read. Could be your top town or not or even yourself. Just three slots with a level of trust in.

    since some will probably figure, this does relate to my plans and I don't really have much of an issue of it being out in the open so long as I'm not giving significant identifiable information about my role.

    alternatively we can have someone else provide that (maybe Yellow Snow as an example) and I'll follow it but I'd prefer not.
    naptime, ringleader, and yellow snow would be the three that I like most rn.

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  11. ISO #3861

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Goldfish Bowl View Post
    Ok so I actually decided to take a look on how trueful this statement is

    Matchstick's argument is that they have contributed at least some to discussion, and looking through their ISO, I will say a lot of it is actually discussion

    see below






    Here he is stating his stance (which is more than some people have tbh)



    Heres a post for ironically questioning people for the same things people are questioning him for




    I think this is an valid response imo. Ignoring caps and reading it normally he DOES make sense here imo




    Read list here Its clear his bottom 6 aren't really soldified reads but the first 4 are. I havent bothered to look for his Pilgrim reasoning but he does make an argument for against SSS, and I actually do agree with him on Old Lick. The Hat I also do get some mixed vibes from but thats a basket for another day





    Again I agree with him here. Protagonist did come off as pushy and there is indeed enough substance here for me to say this is contribution



    This one shows he just follows other analysis which I kinda tried to do earlier but my brain exploded so here I am ignoring literally everything going on in the thread and focusing on my own analysis since no one will explain the situation to me



    another stance



    Opinion (not strong obviously but thoughts are thoughts)







    Now without looking at context (which I could not find posts after a 4 minute search) These seem kinda like naked votes



    Goblin here provided a much rather, but then again I don't know the context and I'll look for that later





    Opinion that Matchstick is town



    ^following a train




    Here bad hair day is just objectively wrong as there are hints however miniscule in matchman's posts of thoughts, which can be used for analysis. (Not me tho, I aint doing that 50 player vca it will kill me metaphorically and spiritually)


    Naked earliest vote I could fine



    My conclusion is that Matchman seems more like a troll town. + I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt as they said they weren't reading thread until N1. Call it ATE, But i feel like this slot is a wait and see I would much rather see if they do actually uphold their promise of reading properly/providing content the next day. As for why people are voting, without context it looks like a bunch of sheep ngl
    ok yeah you're officialy on my TRs, this is articulated super well ty

  12. ISO #3862

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Ringmaster View Post
    Yeh I haven’t been hiding it
    What are they gonna do anti claim the moon
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Oink View Post
    …I can’t help but shake the feeling that the two main wagons are just too easy of MLs. Hat has been the only defender I’ve seen for Matchstick and I don’t think anyone has stood up for Pilgrim. Like yes I read their ISOs and their play isn’t great but maybe we’re mistaking bad plays for scummy plays here / the wagons are twtbaw
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I CAN ACCEPT THE CRITICISM THAT I HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE DISCUSSION!!! I FEEL I HAVE MADE MY THOUGHTS CLEAR, OR AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE, AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY!!!

    I WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT THE "MAJORITY" OF MY POSTS ARE FLUFF, OR LACKING IN CONTENT!!!



    THIS IS THE FIRST VOTE THAT FEELS IT HAS BEEN PLACED BY A SHEEPING WOLF!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    THIS IS AN INTERESTING POINT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS MORE LIKELY TO BE PLAYER-INDICATIVE THAN ALIGNMENT-INDICATIVE!!! I'D NEED MORE CONVINCING TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN ACTION THAT THIS SLOT WOULD TAKE ONLY AS TOWN!!! DOES THAT MAKE SENSE???
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    OF YOUR 25 POSTS, 19 OF THEM ARE FLUFF, IMAGES, OR FILLER!!!

    DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING WORTH READING TO ADD???
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    WILD!!! I WILL ADDRESS THIS NOW!!!


    (1) NO, I DID NOT!
    I SAID

    WHICH I STAND BY!!! THE POST YOU ARE REFERRING TO HERE:::

    WAS NOT CRITICIZISM- ALTHOUGH I RECOGNIZE THAT MY TONE CAN EASILY ALLOW IT TO BE MISINTERPRETED THAT WAY!!!

    (2) I STAND BY MY ACCUSATION ON SSS HAVING OBSCURE REASONING!!! I CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE TWO TOWNREADS I OFFERED WERE NOT WELL-DEFINED, BUT IF YOU COUNT MY SHITPOST VOTE ON HAT A READ AND TRY TO USE THAT TO PAINT ME POORLY, YOU HAVE EITHER DONE ZERO REVIEW FOR YOUR SCUMREAD OF ME OR YOU ARE WILFULLY MISINTERPRETING WHAT I AM SAYING TO SCUMPAINT ME!!!

    (3) LMAO

    (4) LMAO
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    SURE!!!

    IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:::
    FM-Pilgrim Anatomy - REASON PREVIOUSLY LISTED!!!
    FM-Sad Super Saiyan - I COULD SEE THIS SLOT'S ACTIONS EARLY IN THE DAY AS TOWN TRYING TO MAKE THE GAME MOVE, BUT IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEIR REASONING MATCHES THAT MINDSET!!! I'M SUSPICIOUS OF THEM BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY HAD PROPER REASONING TO BE MAKING THE MOVES THEY DID- EVEN AFTER THEY ATTEMPTED TO JUSTIFY THEM LATER ON!!! I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THEIR ISO SINCE RETURNING TO THE THREAD, HOWEVER, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT COULD CHANGE MY OPINION!!!
    FM-Old Lickilicky - THEIR REASONING FOR VOTING PILGRIM ANATOMY WAS WEAK!!!
    FM-The Hat - I AM UNABLE TO FORMULATE MY REASONING INTO WORDS!!! JUST BAD VIBES FROM THIS SLOT!!!

    BEYOND THOSE FOUR, I HAVE SELECTED THE BOTTOM POSTERS THAT HAVE CHECKED IN TO ROUND OUT THE BOTTOM SIX SLOTS ON MY LIST!!!
    Posts 7 FM-Wakka Wakka
    Posts 7 FM-Heterochromia
    Posts 6 FM-Lassie
    Posts 5 FM-Fluffernuts
    Posts 4 FM-Decepticon
    Posts 4 FM-Joycat

    OUT OF THESE SIX NAMES, ONLY LASSIE STANDS OUT TO ME AS MAKING A POST THAT I REMEMBER EXISTING!!! HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT READ HALF OF THE THREAD AND DO NOT PLAN ON DOING SO UNTIL PERHAPS NIGHT 1!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I HAVE THE POINT OF VIEW THAT EVEN THOUGH PROTAGONIST'S PUSH WAS ILL-FOUNDED, I INDEPENDENTLY ARRIVED AT A SIMILAR CONCLUSION!!! IT'S AN INTERESTING SPOT TO BE IN, BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE PROTAGONIST'S JUSTIFICATION POST- ANALYZING SHITPOSTS AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN SHITPOSTS IS A SIGN OF OVERANALYZATION!!! HOWEVER, I CAN NOT LOOK PAST PILGRIM'S STRANGE BEHAVIOR SINCE RETURNING TO THE THREAD!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I LIKE YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE EVENTS AND I WILL SHAMELESSLY FOLLOW YOUR INTERPRETATION WHILE DOING NO CONCURRENT RESEARCH OF MY OWN!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    I AM INTENTIONALLY OPTING TO LEAVE THIS SLOT ALONE PRESENTLY!!! THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AS A ZERO-POSTER UNTIL THEY POST SOMETHING OF SUBSTANCE!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Matchstick Man View Post
    BECAUSE TOWN IS SO STRONG IN THIS SETUP THE NUMBERS LIKELY STRONGLY FAVOR SCUM!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Naptime View Post
    Nah actually I'm gonna take the high ground and lend my voice to this

    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    For Lipstick!
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Lipstick View Post
    Turns out Ringmaster isn't actually wolfy at all

    A real shame

    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    Without much hope or aim
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Goblin and Worg View Post
    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    I would much rather this be the second wagon over Sonrisa.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan View Post
    i still think matchstick man's weird hangup on my "unexplained" page 1-3 reads is kinda a towney fixation ngl.

    the fact he hasn't let it go despite not reading me since is a lil dumb tho
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Disco Dancer View Post
    -vote FM-Matchstick Man


    this is the train i'm most happy to sit on for now, as much as Pilgrim is also a good option.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Bad Hair Day View Post
    Quick ISO and yeah there's nothing there that indicates thoughts of solvy character happening out of posts (compared to Pilgrim it's night and day)

    Shall we?

    -vote FM-Matchstick Man
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Sad Super Saiyan View Post
    there is my dude click the image pic in the toolbar. you can add from local file or url @FM-Goldfish Bowl
    Attachment 29482
    I DID AND IT SAYS OH YOUR IMAGE IS TOO LARGE, FINE I DOWNSCALE IT, OH ITS INVALID, FINE PNG CONVERTER AND DOWNSCALE, OH ITS TOO LARGE STILL

    FINE

    PDF-> PNG-> Smaller -> sorry that file doesnt match the needed to dowload it has to be a png, jpeg, or what not. The file type: PNG


    ME:

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  16. ISO #3866

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Guess I’ll list them cause will help me organise

    Anime Protag - Pinged everyone for it very tied to it and well started wagon not a focus here
    Old Lick - “lol ok ill iso them”
    Best response to this I've seen here accidentally did this last but ya this is a pretty decent starter. Disagree with the next solve post here:
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Old Lickilicky View Post
    this guy is trying to look like hes reading then later on he say he gave up reading, yeah this slot is prob scum ngl

    i dont think town would mention they give up and just look for different ways to play
    -vote FM-Pilgrim Anatomy
    But that’s on a fundamental level not base or anything think Old Lick is town but quite a different way to play.
    Eye - Above wall post
    Choo Choo!!! - WHY IS A TRAIN SPEAKING LIKE A PIRATE! AAAA
    Replies to a post about pilgrim from bad hair day #2665 and next time there is mention that shows here is them joining the wagon? This feels mixed in my gut. Amma comes back to this after the rest of the voters.
    Sonrisa - am not reading that am sorry
    Mr Clean - Liked them last night remember cause i left a note here about it they felt calm and I mind melded with them but for this. Will check their pilgrim stuff

    Know am suppose to preflip but
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean View Post
    lol ok
    -vote FM-Pilgrim Anatomy
    what happens if this flips town btw
    👀

    Okay it’s legit the only mention is the vote but reply after in response
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Mr Clean View Post
    True I don’t I’m just here to heroshoot day 2
    Likely still town but gonna drop to a town lean for now if this is a wolf (pilgrim) think Mr Clean is just a solid town only drop down on a town flip.

    The Hat - 175 posts wtf fine but only cause last one on wagon…
    Joins the Rp and joke posts with pilgrim
    Okay their progression and asking for explanations and working with the people replying it feels good. This post is a reference to this. This aside a match wolf and pilgrim town flips this is a good post for hat.

    [QUOTE=FM-The Hat;1000296]See I think I like matchstick actually, they're sticking to their gut, not hedgy at all, actively trying to point out inconsistencies in what people say, which is the best way to trip up a wolf.

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  18. ISO #3868

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    that last hat quote broke here is the fix

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Hat View Post
    See I think I like matchstick actually, they're sticking to their gut, not hedgy at all, actively trying to point out inconsistencies in what people say, which is the best way to trip up a wolf.





    I think I agree with you on Pilgrim, they're main defense is just "lol role-cop me bro", which, I would say, can have merit in KRC but as seen in the prior game there were scum roles which were effectively vanilla/very weak so....

    I also am not a fan of him suggesting he is LHF, town should be fighting tooth and nail to stay alive since that's almost always the optimal play

    sorry didn't grap my whole notepad >~<

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    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Goldfish Bowl View Post
    Ok so I actually decided to take a look on how trueful this statement is

    Matchstick's argument is that they have contributed at least some to discussion, and looking through their ISO, I will say a lot of it is actually discussion

    see below






    Here he is stating his stance (which is more than some people have tbh)



    Heres a post for ironically questioning people for the same things people are questioning him for




    I think this is an valid response imo. Ignoring caps and reading it normally he DOES make sense here imo




    Read list here Its clear his bottom 6 aren't really soldified reads but the first 4 are. I havent bothered to look for his Pilgrim reasoning but he does make an argument for against SSS, and I actually do agree with him on Old Lick. The Hat I also do get some mixed vibes from but thats a basket for another day





    Again I agree with him here. Protagonist did come off as pushy and there is indeed enough substance here for me to say this is contribution



    This one shows he just follows other analysis which I kinda tried to do earlier but my brain exploded so here I am ignoring literally everything going on in the thread and focusing on my own analysis since no one will explain the situation to me



    another stance



    Opinion (not strong obviously but thoughts are thoughts)







    Now without looking at context (which I could not find posts after a 4 minute search) These seem kinda like naked votes



    Goblin here provided a much rather, but then again I don't know the context and I'll look for that later





    Opinion that Matchstick is town



    ^following a train




    Here bad hair day is just objectively wrong as there are hints however miniscule in matchman's posts of thoughts, which can be used for analysis. (Not me tho, I aint doing that 50 player vca it will kill me metaphorically and spiritually)


    Naked earliest vote I could fine



    My conclusion is that Matchman seems more like a troll town. + I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt as they said they weren't reading thread until N1. Call it ATE, But i feel like this slot is a wait and see I would much rather see if they do actually uphold their promise of reading properly/providing content the next day. As for why people are voting, without context it looks like a bunch of sheep ngl
    completely agree here matchstick is very tonwy imo
    and you are towny for this so congrats you are higher up in my reads now my friend

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    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Alright I guess goldfish is cool now with that wallpost and agreeing that matchstick is townie

    I'm going to do a quick ISO on the slot and see if I still think they have wolfy pop ins, I'll be here to livechat for a little bit longer after that but then I'm hoping off.

    I'm probably going to be able to pop in shortly before EoD

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    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Okay I'm a goldfish bowl believer.

    I like their takes on oink, I like that they take issue with protagonist hair, I'm going to (at some point) read hair's iso and see if I come to similar conclusions.

    Huge dubs on town reading matchstick, albeit I don't really see them as "troll town".

    I'm removing goldfish from the shitlist

    SHITLIST:
    Pilgrim
    Protagonist Hair
    Oink
    Shrimp
    Naptime (I really need to interact with this slot)
    Paradelioa (I need to interact with this slot again)

    Town box:
    Piss Kirby
    Dredge
    Matchstick
    Gnome
    Goldfish
    Sonrisa
    Goblin

    Townbox I'm safe with leaving alone for now, shitlist is people I'd like to see wagon'd including some people that originally rubbed me the wrong way which are pending a reevaluation which I just don't really have the energy/time for before end of day

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    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Hat View Post
    Okay I'm a goldfish bowl believer.

    I like their takes on oink, I like that they take issue with protagonist hair, I'm going to (at some point) read hair's iso and see if I come to similar conclusions.

    Huge dubs on town reading matchstick, albeit I don't really see them as "troll town".

    I'm removing goldfish from the shitlist

    SHITLIST:
    Pilgrim
    Protagonist Hair
    Oink
    Shrimp
    Naptime (I really need to interact with this slot)
    Paradelioa (I need to interact with this slot again)

    Town box:
    Piss Kirby
    Dredge
    Matchstick
    Gnome
    Goldfish
    Sonrisa
    Goblin

    Townbox I'm safe with leaving alone for now, shitlist is people I'd like to see wagon'd including some people that originally rubbed me the wrong way which are pending a reevaluation which I just don't really have the energy/time for before end of day
    I assume on that shit list they are individually
    mainly cause i don't see pilgrim and protag ever w/w from that @ all ping

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    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Assuming pilgrim remains one of the top wagons I'd definitely be willing to swap my vote over to Protagonist, Oink, or Shrimp in order to get two off my shitlist for the price of one day.

    If there's someone off that list which is just sbpc + some arguments for wolf behavior then I'd might be willing to swap as well

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  31. ISO #3881

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Though I normally don't mash-pace... something about coming into a thread without the pressure to read the thousands of posts since last time is refreshing. I feel like on my own perogative I can clock in, do what I can, and come back later.

    tumblr_n58hvx51yF1qzdpr4o1_500.png

    I should perhaps not be playing in this game given my irl time crunch lately, but I can atleast give an hour a day for now until things clear up.

    What stood out to me last time was Ringmaster making a lot of excuses for why they didn't engage people who disagreed (~P#1600)

    I miss anything fun since? Please do interact.

  32. ISO #3882

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss View Post
    I assume on that shit list they are individually
    mainly cause i don't see pilgrim and protag ever w/w from that @ all ping
    Yes?

    It's been a minute since I've been (or at least thought I was) through hair's posts, if there was any WvT interaction in there with Pilgrim then I missed it. Frankly I don't do a whole lot of reads by association and rely on others to make those types of reads for me

  33. ISO #3883

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Catnip View Post
    love you. but. "a bit"?
    it should be apparent to any player paying attention that you have no interest or thoughts besides our two slots. i dont need to frame you as a clueless wolf or anything, im just convinced you dont care or gave up

    if you scumread me, vote me or find my partners. if you don't, idk why you are quipping with me at all. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ im not going to say its omgus if you vote me. Itd literally be better than anything you are doing rn.

  34. ISO #3884

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss View Post
    I assume on that shit list they are individually
    mainly cause i don't see pilgrim and protag ever w/w from that @ all ping
    I'm gonna second that protagonist hair (though having a similarly gorgeous pfp) felt a bit too... 'showy' in their posting for what seemed like meh dictatorial posts. If I lose my sanity enough to do an ISO tonight it'll probably be there.

    It reminded me a bit of a lighter-handed version of what Amrock did in MU Annimash last year.

  35. ISO #3885

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Hat View Post
    Yes?

    It's been a minute since I've been (or at least thought I was) through hair's posts, if there was any WvT interaction in there with Pilgrim then I missed it. Frankly I don't do a whole lot of reads by association and rely on others to make those types of reads for me
    Hair caused the wagon by far and pushed a few people on it think it's super unlikely paired

  36. ISO #3886

  37. ISO #3887

  38. ISO #3888

  39. ISO #3889

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ZOMG View Post
    I'm gonna second that protagonist hair (though having a similarly gorgeous pfp) felt a bit too... 'showy' in their posting for what seemed like meh dictatorial posts. If I lose my sanity enough to do an ISO tonight it'll probably be there.

    It reminded me a bit of a lighter-handed version of what Amrock did in MU Annimash last year.
    Ping me if you do get to that ISO
    think they are the wolf of Pilgrim/Protag likely voting there unless my later ISO's give anything

    OKAY actualyl taking a 30min break to rest eyes then will be back

  40. ISO #3890

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ZOMG View Post
    Though I normally don't mash-pace... something about coming into a thread without the pressure to read the thousands of posts since last time is refreshing. I feel like on my own perogative I can clock in, do what I can, and come back later.

    tumblr_n58hvx51yF1qzdpr4o1_500.png

    I should perhaps not be playing in this game given my irl time crunch lately, but I can atleast give an hour a day for now until things clear up.

    What stood out to me last time was Ringmaster making a lot of excuses for why they didn't engage people who disagreed (~P#1600)

    I miss anything fun since? Please do interact.
    Hello I have not interacted with you before. Do you have any other reads? Specifically on any of the high posters since I assume you have seen their posts
    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ZOMG View Post
    I'm gonna second that protagonist hair (though having a similarly gorgeous pfp) felt a bit too... 'showy' in their posting for what seemed like meh dictatorial posts. If I lose my sanity enough to do an ISO tonight it'll probably be there.

    It reminded me a bit of a lighter-handed version of what Amrock did in MU Annimash last year.
    i third that

  41. ISO #3891

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Candyfloss View Post
    Ping me if you do get to that ISO
    think they are the wolf of Pilgrim/Protag likely voting there unless my later ISO's give anything

    OKAY actualyl taking a 30min break to rest eyes then will be back
    When you're back (or someone else if this is a mech thing) explain 'the wolf of pilgrem/protag' ? Is this a "we have a dif check" or is this just speculation of v vs w?

  42. ISO #3892

  43. ISO #3893

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ZOMG View Post
    When you're back (or someone else if this is a mech thing) explain 'the wolf of pilgrem/protag' ? Is this a "we have a dif check" or is this just speculation of v vs w?
    I too have not read all pages but I have read most and haven't seen anything mech that would put them v/w

  44. ISO #3894

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Dredge View Post
    just read their rhetoric or if you cant, use this https://convertcase.net/ and convert it to lower case.
    bruh im lazy but anyway he kinda come off null, but also kinda town, i dont rly see anything scummy from iso so i will have to ask ppl why they scumread them, tho i prob wont rly defend him much

  45. ISO #3895

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Hat View Post
    Okay I'm a goldfish bowl believer.

    I like their takes on oink, I like that they take issue with protagonist hair, I'm going to (at some point) read hair's iso and see if I come to similar conclusions.

    Huge dubs on town reading matchstick, albeit I don't really see them as "troll town".

    I'm removing goldfish from the shitlist

    SHITLIST:
    Pilgrim
    Protagonist Hair
    Oink
    Shrimp
    Naptime (I really need to interact with this slot)
    Paradelioa (I need to interact with this slot again)

    Town box:
    Piss Kirby
    Dredge
    Matchstick
    Gnome
    Goldfish
    Sonrisa
    Goblin

    Townbox I'm safe with leaving alone for now, shitlist is people I'd like to see wagon'd including some people that originally rubbed me the wrong way which are pending a reevaluation which I just don't really have the energy/time for before end of day
    Aren't you missing somebody?

  46. ISO #3896

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout View Post
    Hello I have not interacted with you before. Do you have any other reads? Specifically on any of the high posters since I assume you have seen their posts

    i third that
    Sup



    I was in the thread for approx 3-5 pages. I remember Ringmaster because of that direct interaction.

    I remember Hat because they helped correct my formating fuckups with the UI. Their posts were generally NAI/I didn't have a lick of context to understand.

    Goblin and Worg made a pretty substantial impression on me and gave off a tryhard-town vibe, but I got burned by those types a few times before in the handful of mashes I've played so I am content to wait.

    Overall I'd say I lacked context of what most people were discussing enough to read into it, chose a pet issue, and then had to sleep before I could capitalize further.

  47. ISO #3897

  48. ISO #3898

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-Droopy Snout View Post
    also I just skimmed ZOMG's iso and not sure what I saw there that was towny...the iso seems very nai
    Can I get your citation list and a detailed list of my posts from most to least NAI?

    Anything less and I'll need an immediate retraction

  49. ISO #3899

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-ZOMG View Post
    Sup



    I was in the thread for approx 3-5 pages. I remember Ringmaster because of that direct interaction.

    I remember Hat because they helped correct my formating fuckups with the UI. Their posts were generally NAI/I didn't have a lick of context to understand.

    Goblin and Worg made a pretty substantial impression on me and gave off a tryhard-town vibe, but I got burned by those types a few times before in the handful of mashes I've played so I am content to wait.

    Overall I'd say I lacked context of what most people were discussing enough to read into it, chose a pet issue, and then had to sleep before I could capitalize further.
    ah ok gotcha
    have you done any ISOs?

  50. ISO #3900

    Re: KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

    Quote Originally Posted by FM-The Hat View Post
    I did earlier but one of my mates called so I was distracted when reading their ISO.

    At first nothing stood out to me other than the 180 that goblin pointed out regarding myself, reading back on them again #1906 stands out to me as a potential discredit.

    Lots of sheeping, first of Scarf, then sheeping the opinions of candyfloss and mr clean.

    They claim to not get anything out of pisskirby, who's widely recognized as consensus town at this point, which is odd.

    Then they hard tunneled on droopy and then did a 180 on their SR of me.

    I think red cross is town here? I think I might understand why they did a 180 on me, and it would have to do with the item that they might be softing to be responsible for giving me n0
    are you scum with red cross?

 

 

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