KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

[FM-Autumn]

Basically I wont detect any actions made before I install the camera (Regardless if they are killing actions which I cannot see or not)

so you'd still get that "no one visited" as a result if that happened? your action wouldn't be just blocked because of them being dead before you target them?

[FM-The Great Flood]

A minor mod error was made, the SoD post should have included mention that FM-Catnip visited FM-Lipstick’s mother last night.

Did she have nice lips?

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

So 4p7 Rolecoped Catnip , and it has been announced tha they acted on Lipstick last night? Im following that correctly?

yea, in the end i dont think it changed much tho

[FM-Eyescream]

Yes.

Do you know what you're giving out each night? What was your reason for picking me?

[FM-The Great Flood]

so you'd still get that "no one visited" as a result if that happened? your action wouldn't be just blocked because of them being dead before you target them?

Yeah, the no motion detected feedback would be sent

[FM-The Great Flood]

Yeah, the no motion detected feedback would be sent

(Unless someone visits their corpse hmmyes)

[FM-Autumn]

Yeah, the no motion detected feedback would be sent

i'm. honestly not sure if i believe this or if you just figured out what i was getting at with those questions lol

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

So what we know: Chroma was roleblocked, Breakup cannot be sent to kill, Catnip visited Lipstick. We still got a mafia that killed Ringmaster outside of those three

[FM-Chromatography]

Do you know what you're giving out each night? What was your reason for picking me?

Yes. I chose you because I started to feel good about the way you were handling things and I noticed certain people were still having trouble clearing you.

[FM-Autumn]

i'm. honestly not sure if i believe this or if you just figured out what i was getting at with those questions lol

because i just realized (just realized... pretty close to sod lol i just wanted responses to my questions XD) that actually mr clean did put the kill on kirby as first in ooo that night

and i'm pretty sure that's why everyone else's actions on that slot have kept failing

why did yours not fail lol

[FM-The Great Flood]

i'm. honestly not sure if i believe this or if you just figured out what i was getting at with those questions lol

To be completely honest I think both, but maybe Im thinking another thing

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

So what we know: Chroma was roleblocked, Breakup cannot be sent to kill, Catnip visited Lipstick. We still got a mafia that killed Ringmaster outside of those three

This make The Great Flood more likely to be the mafia killer ngl, who else beside great flood couldve done it? Choo?

[FM-Lassie]

Spoiler : Mining ISO :

Tiny Hippo seems like a wolf to me. I see a lot of posturing around thread and saying things that appear smart and towny like RTs and typical mech talk. Wouldn't be surprised if they flip wolf.

Lickilicky seems fine. Just like a villager who checks in and posts things then leaves. Good vibes there

Townreading pilgrim specifically because p#2597 is a very towny post

@FM-Yellow Snow dunno if i just @ here or what I'm supposed to do to ping so if this doesn't work someone help me thx :3

Townreads that boil down to "being towny" are pretty common. Not all of them are quoted here, by the way.

Bad one. Lucky is town

DONT KILL LICKY

Rip licky

Sad

Mining immediately gives up the defense of Licky, minutes after they started. And they don’t make a meaningful attempt at convincing people.

lol i forgot to remove the quote FUCK


-ITA FM-Goblin and Worg

I literal just sheeped the last shot I saw I didn't realize it was a hero shot LOL

This I’ll admit wasn’t as bad now that I see the second post.
That being said, it's still a very convenient time to happen to sheep a shot, and it's also possible that Goblin had been wounded by a level 13 wound (as some conjectured earlier in the game). If wolves had known about this, then of course they would like to hop on, as Goblin had a very high chance of dying to a single ITA.

-vote FM-Pareidolia

Monet was kinda towny during ITAs and goblinandworg was voting there

So mby not monet

There wasn’t any progression onto Parei either, afaict.

Later:

(the following posts are about a minute apart)

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

I always hate every single one of mining peep's popins

Stay Mad

-vote FM-Monet Rocket

This isn’t quite as bad as it looks, given their following post:

I think Monet had some towny posts but idk

I only voted kirbo because Hippo and licky were there

I will respect the will of the people though

However

What?? Why would you advocate for youself over Yellow?

Cuz they're a wolf lol

Now, one can read the above post as “Cuz Yellow’s a wolf lol” or “Cuz Dredge is a wolf lol”.
If it’s the first, it makes no sense given their willingness to concede to the rest of thread, and how they very clearly have not been expressing a strong wolfread on Yellow.
If it’s the second, it’s not too bad, though Mining doesn’t mention any suspicion on Dredge the next day, until Dredge pushes him (and even then, Mining doesn’t bring this up as a reason).

-vote FM-Yellow Snow

Rather not be on the Monet wagon now that it's 100% they die

Changing wagons at this point is entirely vanity (as Mining notes here). The intention behind this post was appearance.

Catnip posts at last eod felt v wolfy

Anyway I think Catnip is towny

so shot lists prolly suck

?????????
There’s time between these posts but no explanation.

It's not easy to town read a slot that's barely here

I haven't been suss of your slot that much
But your comment about "Why Dredge, ISO seems towny" pinged me
So I'm pushing you for it

That's how mafia works
And then if you are town, you show that much more and we are all happier

yeah u can push me

idk how that pinged u though unless im w/w with dredge

These posts aren’t bad, but the mindset they show is exactly the one of a TMIer. Mining believes that these low-explanation reads are towny (or at least not wolfy), as long as they’re correct. So, naturally, he chooses to make them. A lot of them.

Overall it's not as bad as I originally thought when looking through the ISO, though there are some minor points that I left out for space.

The very strange change in tone in their push on Droopy (especially at the start) also pings me (as do a few other tone changes), but I haven't finished deliberating on that. I'd recommend looking, or at least skimming, through the ISO yourself if you have time, to see those and come to a conclusion.

[FM-The Great Flood]

because i just realized (just realized... pretty close to sod lol i just wanted responses to my questions XD) that actually mr clean did put the kill on kirby as first in ooo that night

and i'm pretty sure that's why everyone else's actions on that slot have kept failing

why did yours not fail lol

That was what I was thinking when you specifically asked "before" yeah. I even asked the hosts for Mr. Clean role interaction wowee

[FM-Autumn]

because i just realized (just realized... pretty close to sod lol i just wanted responses to my questions XD) that actually mr clean did put the kill on kirby as first in ooo that night

and i'm pretty sure that's why everyone else's actions on that slot have kept failing

why did yours not fail lol

@FM-Lipstick anyway this was the mech i was talking about earlier, if you care :P

why in the fuck was flood the only person who was able to actually get results from targeting a player who was killed earlier in the same night?

everyone else just had failed actions lol. and idk if i believe their role had some weird clause where they would just get result regardless

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

This make The Great Flood more likely to be the mafia killer ngl, who else beside great flood couldve done it? Choo?

Platypus was also cleared by Player two

[FM-The Great Flood]

This make The Great Flood more likely to be the mafia killer ngl, who else beside great flood couldve done it? Choo?

Dont you think that unless Im last wolf or just partner with Breakup if what you claim is true after being considered as a yeet yesterday commiting the kill is a bit of unnecesary risk?

Ngl I thought it was likely that Minnie stabbed me this night

[FM-Autumn]

anyway

-vote FM-The Great Flood

still think this slot can die tbh

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

Dont you think that unless Im last wolf or just partner with Breakup if what you claim is true after being considered as a yeet yesterday commiting the kill is a bit of unnecesary risk?

Ngl I thought it was likely that Minnie stabbed me this night

Someone was sent to kill Ringmaster obviously, by process of elimination, Breakup/Catnip/Platypus/Chroma couldnt be sent to kill. Who does that leave? In our poes: you/choo/eyescream/four past seven/or someone in the towncore

[FM-Lassie]

If my RB was successful I would've completed my role's condition pensive

role's... condition? what condition
is this a 3p claim

[FM-The Great Flood]

Anyways i dont plan against me being blasted since I understand that Im PoE without any real clear atp.
Noting that only the sent to kill PoE just feels bad and is something that could go very wrong with any mech assumption gone wrong / someone able to multistask it and blah blah blah

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

UNLESS: Catnip used anti claim that was 100% untrackable on ringmaster

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

Someone is calling you 3p or why are you bringing this up?

ramblings about the setup

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

MODERROR CORRECTED ❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗ Everybody look at my visit! Visit I made! This is the visit I did!!!

come back here and continue lolcatting pls meow

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

Anyways i dont plan against me being blasted since I understand that Im PoE without any real clear atp.
Noting that only the sent to kill PoE just feels bad and is something that could go very wrong with any mech assumption gone wrong / someone able to multistask it and blah blah blah

i mean it doesnt really change anything. Catnip/Breakup/Platypus/Chroma can still be mafia, its just we now know there is also mafia outside of breakup/platypus/chroma which is 15 other people

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

can you people invite me to the hood with choo and co? i have a good RT idea

[FM-Mining Peep]

role's... condition? what condition
is this a 3p claim

no but you will see why if u read more

[FM-Autumn]

(i honestly still think it could just be choo/flood/breakup lol. maybe catnip also, but idk, i kinda have started feeling like they're not wolfing now)

[FM-Four Past Seven]

UNLESS: Catnip used anti claim that was 100% untrackable on ringmaster

Unlikely. Think I would've been anti-claimed earlier in the game.


Separate note entirely I'm not feeling all that great, had a sucky day, I kinda just want to mentally check out. I also have more stuff to do. Maybe IRL tomorrow I will feel more mentally ready for this game, cuz there's been hundreds of posts since I last checked in and it doesn't seem like the rate of posting is stopping. There seems to be a whole bunch of new mech information too. Sorry if you all were expecting more of me, but I kinda just can't rn.

[FM-Mining Peep]

(i honestly still think it could just be choo/flood/breakup lol. maybe catnip also, but idk, i kinda have started feeling like they're not wolfing now)

pls flip catnip if they instantly fire at me during itas and i die tho

[FM-Lipstick]

Wasn’t Ringmaster killed by spank vig? Isn’t that untraceable and unstoppable?

[FM-Autumn]

i also genuinely find it so weird that flood would be the only person in the game who is able to actually target a player and get results, when that player died earlier in the night? like they weren't anywhere near the only person to visit kirby that night lol. and everyone else's action failed. according to flood's results, everyone else's actions even failed in a way where they didn't even visit kirby at all during the night. so why was specifically flood able to visit that slot and also get results?

[FM-Lipstick]

(i honestly still think it could just be choo/flood/breakup lol. maybe catnip also, but idk, i kinda have started feeling like they're not wolfing now)

I have the dredged feeling about Catnip
Which would mean
lol Dredge

[FM-Autumn]

I have the dredged feeling about Catnip
Which would mean
lol Dredge

i had the feeling about catnip's latest posts that they're just reacting in the exact same way as i do sometimes when i get suspected as town for stupid stuff lol. which is just to post random bullshit in thread, fully knowing that it's getting me more likely to be killed, but just not caring about it because lol i just wanted to post that shit regardless

[FM-Catnip]

I have the dredged feeling about Catnip
Which would mean
lol Dredge

Poor Dredge

[FM-Autumn]

I have the dredged feeling about Catnip
Which would mean
lol Dredge

(also can you please look at the stuff i said about flood, does it make sense to assume they lied about their results or is it possible for them to be the only role in the game who has successful action and can get results after having targeted a player who was killed earlier in the night lol)

[FM-Catnip]

i had the feeling about catnip's latest posts that they're just reacting in the exact same way as i do sometimes when i get suspected as town for stupid stuff lol. which is just to post random bullshit in thread, fully knowing that it's getting me more likely to be killed, but just not caring about it because lol i just wanted to post that shit regardless

I’m in this game to have fun and if posting bullshit like this is my comedy club lets me have fun then it’s gonna make me play better. I play worse (i.e. not at all) when I’m miserable. I refuse to be miserable regardless of the circumstances. I will not suicide like Dredge did

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

Wasn’t Ringmaster killed by spank vig? Isn’t that untraceable and unstoppable?

its untraceable OR unstoppable

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

I’m in this game to have fun and if posting bullshit like this is my comedy club lets me have fun then it’s gonna make me play better. I play worse (i.e. not at all) when I’m miserable. I refuse to be miserable regardless of the circumstances. I will not suicide like Dredge did

dredge didn't suicide though

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

dredge didn't suicide though

dredge kinda said “ok u got me im wolf” which triggered like 5 people ITA’ing on him

[FM-Protagonist Hair]

dredge kinda said “ok u got me im wolf” which triggered like 5 people ITA’ing on him

cant blame them. they were wrong on most of their reads and thats why they died. just like droopy.


not sure why catnip making it sound like dredge was a gamethrower and argue they are in dredge's shoes now.

dredge at least had scumreads and pushed them for it.

[FM-Autumn]

lassie
player 2
hippo
lipstick
lickilicky
peekaboo

platypus
four past seven
mining peep

eyescream
protag
chibi minnie
chroma
catnip

choo
breakup
flood

[FM-Peekaboo]

So what we know: Chroma was roleblocked, Breakup cannot be sent to kill, Catnip visited Lipstick. We still got a mafia that killed Ringmaster outside of those three

And outside of Platypus since Luigi investigated and found no actions? You could argue Plat/Catnip used untrackable modifier on anticlaim vig but wolves would always prefer unstoppable on consensus town no?

[FM-Catnip]

cant blame them. they were wrong on most of their reads and thats why they died. just like droopy.


not sure why catnip making it sound like dredge was a gamethrower and argue they are in dredge's shoes now.

dredge at least had scumreads and pushed them for it.

Claiming wolf is suicide. It wasn't gamethrowing - he had a good reason to do it, he was confident in his scumreads and wanted to push them. But suicide is also not my style.

[FM-Peekaboo]

Platypus was also cleared by Player two

oh nvm you already figured that out

[FM-Old Lickilicky]

And outside of Platypus since Luigi investigated and found no actions? You could argue Plat/Catnip used untrackable modifier on anticlaim vig but wolves would always prefer unstoppable on consensus town no?

Yeah, Chroma could still use unstoppable kill, Platypus/Catnip could still use untrackable kill. Breakup is only one that cant kill

[FM-Chromatography]

I'm getting the dredged feeling

Just to double check, did you already read the exchange I had with Catnip last night?

[FM-Peekaboo]

Wasn’t Ringmaster killed by spank vig? Isn’t that untraceable and unstoppable?

Please lipstick for my sake read flipped rolecards lmao

[FM-Peekaboo]

wolves picked either unstoppable OR untrackable

picking untrackable with me claiming protection action and wolves needing a kill seems never the move

[FM-Peekaboo]

imo wolves in Flood/Breakup/Peep/Chibi

just a feelin