KRC: Sc2Mafia 13th Anniversary Game (S-FM 357)

[FM-Catnip]

Catnip SHOULDN'T get credit for it I (alongside naptime) grilled the hell out of red cross for that info

unfortunately im cute so i do get credit for everybody elses work. forever. sorry

[FM-Peekaboo]

Catnip SHOULDN'T get credit for it I (alongside naptime) grilled the hell out of red cross for that info

Credit to you then.

[FM-Peekaboo]

Credit to you then.

Or should I say hats off to you then.

[FM-Goldfish Bowl]

Yeah I'm on the red cross is wolf wagon.

I think everyone on the wagon should state whether or not they think Red Cross is scum or genuine third party

Personally I would vote Red Cross if they weren’t close to hammer
I think they have to be lying about 3p because the 4day win con seems weird. Also not claiming d1

[FM-ZOMG]

Town slots that keeps finding themselves in the middle
Or in the PoE
Just some preaching

If you happen to see this

Please just make as much time as possible for the game
Doesn't matter if you're caught up or not

Anything you do
As long as you are
Genuine

Wolves can't be
Genuine
All the time
They smell weird

If you are town
That is really you're only job
And then I think we do have a chance here

I am generally weak to posts like this, but I hope it's genuine.

IRL I am in a play this upcoming weekend and this is Tech Week so my time I can be around is heavily dependent on the day. If we get past that then I am going to be able to truly come alive - but that really isn't a sufficient excuse to stave off some of the people who scum read me from wanting me low, or those who have me listed with the nulls to move me either way (and this is understandable).

I'd ask those who scum read me to ping me with why.

Those who have me null can read my posts and ping me with their ISO.

I hate to have to base my thread presence around myself - but as things stand I am going to struggle in an anonymous game to really draw much outside of the mech.

I do think the discussion earlier around the ghost lady does pan out to show that it is a town role now that I have the neighborhood context. I will reaffirm though that if it kills us both - that it does not tell me that. It also restricts certain actions, but I have no actions that apply to it, so if they are town it would be best to move that to someone where it could be more useful for town.

[FM-Catnip]

tbh i think something like "getting money" is the type of thing that most people would be able to figure out just happens to everyone in the game, and wouldn't really read into it too much

especially considering that roles which give money to everyone have existed in the previous krc's

yeah but wolves know for sure for sure everybody gets money. and they know that everybody else doesnt know this for sure. so theyre likely to think more of it, you know? they want to hide that they know this. so they think about it a little too much, they dont realize that everybody else is gonna make the logical leap that everybody got money

i personally at the time thought it was stupid that people were discussing the money like we probably didnt all get it. and in hindsight some of those people mightve been wolves playing dumb

i agree that its not hard indicative but it can provide direction imo

[FM-Eyescream]

For what it's worth, I'm just trusting the thread on Red Cross because I probably won't get to read them and at this rate they're probably getting flipped no matter what. The points people are making about the wincon not making sense are fair, but I also don't really know what to expect with a setup of multiple weird roles made by the players so I'm just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[FM-Oink]

oh and you know how early on people were speculating whether we all had currency? i think wolves would be really excited to claim they had currency bc they knew it wouldnt be ai and theyd think theyd look towny for readily sharing information. im not reading that back when i still have a lot of thread to catch up on tho

Scarf, Pilgrim, Protag, The Hat, Ringmaster and Licky were some of the earliest people to claim money iirc. The reason I know this off the top of my head was that I was worried people had TMI about the role before it flipped; namely (1) that people we're assuming everyone had rupees and (2) that people should be townread slightly for claiming to have money early (i think Hon Hon Hon or Anthill said this idr)

[FM-Yellow Snow]

I think my earlier votecount shooooould be accurate, I dont think anyones really switched as far as I remember?

I'll probably leave things here and come back to the thread later on to start working through things

Glgl!! This never flips town, so no stress

[FM-Autumn]

I will say, the bit about Hon's TMI that they just backed off of(particularly how they backed off) almost makes me want to townread Goldfish lol

i mean i just hate the original read too much, and think the way they've kept presenting their reads as "tmi slips" about completely random stuff is just wolfy

backing off of it wasn't bad, but i also don't read it as that towny because as wolf they'd also be forced to just back off at that point

[FM-ZOMG]

Yeah

Who the fuck makes a survivor in a game like this

Or benign anything

I for one would love to have a jester role in one of these games lmao

[FM-Goldfish Bowl]

Speaking of anthill where they go? I remember heat on them and they yoloed out

[FM-The Hat]

Credit to you then.

Or should I say hats off to you then.

[FM-Eyescream]

i mean i just hate the original read too much, and think the way they've kept presenting their reads as "tmi slips" about completely random stuff is just wolfy

backing off of it wasn't bad, but i also don't read it as that towny because as wolf they'd also be forced to just back off at that point

For sure. And I also had the same reaction as you to his most recent "slip?" Post. And if I'm right about Hon being town, then I think pushing there is a golden opportunistic push for wolves struggling to get engaged.

[FM-Sad Super Saiyan]

so we'll presumably have 41 players alive going into night.

ideally 4-5 maf dead. possible still only 3.

so anywhere from 9-13 non town roles could still be around.

no matter what happens flipwise, especially with so many unknowns, remember that it aint over till its over.

we got this o7, and we can hopefully use our util well overnight and do better with ITAs tommorow

[FM-ZOMG]

For what it's worth, I'm just trusting the thread on Red Cross because I probably won't get to read them and at this rate they're probably getting flipped no matter what. The points people are making about the wincon not making sense are fair, but I also don't really know what to expect with a setup of multiple weird roles made by the players so I'm just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel this post is towny mindset - this sort of pov doesn't feel like it fits a wolf perspective in a way that could come across this casual.

[FM-Autumn]

also btw if red cross actually flips wolf, dredge is never aligned with them

[FM-Talking Anthill]

Speaking of anthill where they go? I remember heat on them and they yoloed out

I've mostly been reading up

trying to ISO random slots in an attempt to get more PoE reads rn

[FM-Sad Super Saiyan]

Speaking of anthill where they go? I remember heat on them and they yoloed out

anthill just upset and left after they killed NEL.

frankly this feels like an odd shade at an odd moment.

he spent like ages trying to justify his ita in a very wounded animal sort of way that was towney.

given anthill wasnt even on shotlists at the time, i doubt maf would have him make a sui play that risked pissing a lot of players off

[FM-Oink]

@FM-Catnip
Just for the record, The Hat and Licky were the two to come up with "there's a shop and everyone has money" but I just assumed that this is something they could logically figure out since you spend money at shops and since a lot of people claimed to have money at start of D1 (like first few pages of game)

[FM-The Hat]

also btw if red cross actually flips wolf, dredge is never aligned with them

Something about dredge is off putting to me, their style has changed from d1 to d2, and their interactions with red cross makes me think it was theater

[FM-Scarf]

I for one would love to have a jester role in one of these games lmao

would either be absolutely impossible (not allowed to die in ITAs) or really easy (allowed to die in ITAs)

[FM-Chromatography]

also btw if red cross actually flips wolf, dredge is never aligned with them

Why's that?

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

Wait I just noticed catnip claimed fucking survivor

there's actually no fucking way, I don't believe ?KRC has a survivor like ever.

They are certainly lying at least partially, I refuse to believe in a survivor

please do not CFD away from it

[FM-Red Cross]

Welp i guess I'm dead anyway

[FM-Tiny Hippo]

Wait I just noticed catnip claimed fucking survivor

there's actually no fucking way, I don't believe ?KRC has a survivor like ever.

They are certainly lying at least partially, I refuse to believe in a survivor

please do not CFD away from it

EBWOP RED CROSS

NOT CATNIP

RED CROSS

(I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE POSTS THIS IS IT FOR ME BTW)

[FM-The Hat]

Welp i guess I'm dead anyway

get fucked wolf

[FM-Catnip]

Wait I just noticed catnip claimed fucking survivor

there's actually no fucking way, I don't believe ?KRC has a survivor like ever.

They are certainly lying at least partially, I refuse to believe in a survivor

please do not CFD away from it

it wasnt me bitch

[FM-Hon Hon Hon]

Wait I just noticed catnip claimed fucking survivor

there's actually no fucking way, I don't believe ?KRC has a survivor like ever.

They are certainly lying at least partially, I refuse to believe in a survivor

please do not CFD away from it

Catnip seems a bit far off from Red Cross here

[FM-Oink]

Wait I just noticed catnip claimed fucking survivor

there's actually no fucking way, I don't believe ?KRC has a survivor like ever.

They are certainly lying at least partially, I refuse to believe in a survivor

please do not CFD away from it

No they said they don't think RC claimed survivor. Catnip did not claim survivor

[FM-Catnip]

EBWOP RED CROSS

NOT CATNIP

RED CROSS

(I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE POSTS THIS IS IT FOR ME BTW)

oh ok. thank you

[FM-ZOMG]

would either be absolutely impossible (not allowed to die in ITAs) or really easy (allowed to die in ITAs)

the former is the one that sounds fun.

'The Dark Souls of Mafia rands...'

[FM-Hon Hon Hon]

Doesn't look like any CFDs away are gonna happen though
Red Cross vote is more than fine here I'd just rather have not wasted all the wounds on them + guaranteed flip and no EOD chaos is nice

[FM-Autumn]

Something about dredge is off putting to me, their style has changed from d1 to d2, and their interactions with red cross makes me think it was theater

i really don't think that the way dredge was trying to bait red cross into claiming (by fakeclaiming that goose egg stuff themselves) on d1 was ever w/w

(at least iirc the reason dredge even started doing that "eggs" stuff was that they wanted to see red cross claiming)

[FM-Scarf]

EBWOP RED CROSS

NOT CATNIP

RED CROSS

(I ONLY HAVE TWO MORE POSTS THIS IS IT FOR ME BTW)

hippo literally going insane keeping quiet rn

[FM-Autumn]

would either be absolutely impossible (not allowed to die in ITAs) or really easy (allowed to die in ITAs)

i've actually seen jester in mash once and they immediately got themselves elim'd on d1 and won LMAO

[FM-The Hat]

i really don't think that the way dredge was trying to bait red cross into claiming (by fakeclaiming that goose egg stuff themselves) on d1 was ever w/w

(at least iirc the reason dredge even started doing that "eggs" stuff was that they wanted to see red cross claiming)

Nah I'm talking about their interactions around page 200-202

[FM-Hon Hon Hon]

i really don't think that the way dredge was trying to bait red cross into claiming (by fakeclaiming that goose egg stuff themselves) on d1 was ever w/w

(at least iirc the reason dredge even started doing that "eggs" stuff was that they wanted to see red cross claiming)

If RC is wolf Dredge is definitely town off this fwiw

[FM-Autumn]

Nah I'm talking about their interactions around page 200-202

yeah but i don't care about those interactions because i think the d1 stuff is already unaligning lol

[FM-Catnip]

joycat was wounded thrice or quatrice, they should be shot to shed more light on matchstick/scarf/them

can we kill frenchboy for using the word quatrice

[FM-Scarf]

i've actually seen jester in mash once and they immediately got themselves elim'd on d1 and won LMAO

lmfao was it a total win or just like a leave the game type thing

[FM-Red Cross]

i've actually seen jester in mash once and they immediately got themselves elim'd on d1 and won LMAO

That would be funny wouldn't it

[FM-Droopy Snout]

i buy the argument about just itaing rc tomorrow
if we are that certain they are anti town then killing them today gives us no info and we can just deal with them tmr
lets exec someone who will actually give us new info and rc is probably only going to take 1-3 shots to deal with

-vote FM-Hon Hon Hon

[FM-Hon Hon Hon]

can we kill frenchboy for using the word quatrice

if you shoot me over that i would be shot quatrice this phase

[FM-Hon Hon Hon]

i buy the argument about just itaing rc tomorrow
if we are that certain they are anti town then killing them today gives us no info and we can just deal with them tmr
lets exec someone who will actually give us new info and rc is probably only going to take 1-3 shots to deal with

-vote FM-Hon Hon Hon

i was wounded three times as well <3

[FM-Autumn]

lmfao was it a total win or just like a leave the game type thing

leave game iirc

idk about details i only specced lol (= glanced at two random posts in the game after i heard that a jester had won in a mash lmao)

[FM-Eyescream]

i buy the argument about just itaing rc tomorrow
if we are that certain they are anti town then killing them today gives us no info and we can just deal with them tmr
lets exec someone who will actually give us new info and rc is probably only going to take 1-3 shots to deal with

-vote FM-Hon Hon Hon

I am once again asking you why you think Hon is scum and whether you have any thoughts on their EOD1?

[FM-Droopy Snout]

i was wounded three times as well <3

you still give us more information though rc doesn't if we are that convinced

but i realized your wagon is dead so

-vote FM-Old Lickilicky

[FM-Red Cross]

lmfao was it a total win or just like a leave the game type thing

Idt a mash creator would put the absolute win on a jester

[FM-Mr Clean]

I managed to show up to eod!