S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

[Helz]

A subject that has not been brought up is BwcPorscha

How does everyone feel about them? I kind of sense most people have a pretty null opinion and they are sliding under the radar.

[powerofdeath]

He cannot "be killed at night" due to bounty, but that doesn't mean he's invincible. Does Bride die of heartbreak if his lover dies, regardless of bounty, considering it's not actually getting "killed"? @powerofdeath

If a bride have a bounty, and their lover get night killed, the bride survive.
If a bride have a bounty and their lover get lynched, the bride get lynched as well and it will count as a lynch for the bounty hunter.

[Dark Magician]

I’m mind melting with Lily more than any other player this game.
Lily is Town even if somehow MM is Town and Mizery is BH.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I would policy lynch that behavior but ok

[Mizery]

For clarification I am not BH but also BH potentially can help town if he targets someone we want to keep alive
We just have to like, win first lol

[MartinGG99]

:3

......*sips*

preety sure this is now the 15th Dark Magician I've seen today

[Dark Magician]

A subject that has not been brought up is BwcPorscha

How does everyone feel about them? I kind of sense most people have a pretty null opinion and they are sliding under the radar.

I don’t oppose to their execution.
Go for it.

[Mizery]

Porscha is barely on my mind

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

A subject that has not been brought up is BwcPorscha

How does everyone feel about them? I kind of sense most people have a pretty null opinion and they are sliding under the radar.

blood for the blood god

[Dark Magician]

Let’s CFD Porscha

[MartinGG99]

A subject that has not been brought up is BwcPorscha

How does everyone feel about them? I kind of sense most people have a pretty null opinion and they are sliding under the radar.

Used to be preety strong but I recall seeing some posts questioning some things they said or did and then my evaluation dropped

they're largely in flux for me atm

[Mizery]

Let’s CFD Porscha

Let's...really not...

[MartinGG99]

gotta say though this EoD is preety special

normally thread activity is preety downwards linear on this site but this time it just shot way upwards out of nowhere

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Let's...really not...

why aren't you with your gf? :P

[Helz]

Not gona lie, I’m kinda debating pushing for CFD Porsha.

They do enough to stay under the radar and feel very unremarkable to most people. Exelent play if they are neutral imo.

[Mizery]

why aren't you with your gf? :P

I am she's a recovering mafia player she understands my predicament

[Mizery]

K respectfully can we stop moving so much at eod because we're gonna kill a villager more likely the more we move and if we kill a villager today when we have a confirmed wolf i

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Aaaaalll right, then I'm going for the legacy post, because it looks like you're all going to do this.

Helz - duh
Martin - Probably still town, although he's playing pretty poorly right now; that argument saying "b-but the meta clears on Lily!! I must sheep them!!!" while ignoring everything else was very bad lol, and if there's something strange to look at, that's a good start
DM - Town or evil teacher; fairly possible he's evil teacher, and the protective should claim if he protected him N1, else his claim is fake and the reason he survived the N1 attack was simply his anti-Mafia immunity
Oliverz - looks towny enough. Strange but "natural" progression for him, also still liked his D1 (cf. him being very happy to have "caught" Baker). Wouldn't touch.
Huo - should be town, believable claim, needs to bring in valuable info though, if there's STILL no valuable info tomorrow, they would get slightly suspicious imo, but ehh.

Porscha - where are youuuuu, possibly voice of reason but also voice that doesn't exist I think you're probably town, but you're not here enough for me to judge well
Luka - not sure tbh

Mizery - Kinda felt genuine lately, so I don't know anymore tbh, but not super towny for sure

Lily - JUST LYNCH/PROPOSE/WHATEVER HER, FOR GOD'S SAKE XD. I AM DEAD (OR WILL BE IN LIKE 15 MIN), AND I COMPEL YOU FROM HEAVEN. FOLLOW THE DAMN LEAD.
Scumbot - Disappeared. Is watching the world burn. Has had his vote on me for reasons unknown. Is coasting away with a relatively fine consensus on him, one that should allow him to survive. VERY SUSPICIOUS. Potential BH in my opinion.
Cape - still obviously scum


Don't think I'm missing anything.

[MartinGG99]

she understands my predicament

saying it like that makes it sound like we're holding guns to your head for activity

now I'm slightly sadder

[Mizery]

I agree about sus on scumbot since he kinda dropped off the radar completely

[Mizery]

saying it like that makes it sound like we're holding guns to your head for activity

now I'm slightly sadder

It's eod it's schmoovin I can't take my eyes away

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

gives a mafia in silver platter

yeah huo needs to bring useful information.

[Helz]

@Varcron
If your anti Mafia target within the PoE and force them on Cape. We will work to kill your enemies either way so helping the town is also your strongest chance to win

To the evil teacher- as stated Oliver is vengeful and will be targeting cape. Killing him by self pairing or by targeting within the PoE will push your wincon well.

[Mizery]

Mm you think luka can be a wolf? No real read on him that you gave when I thought you were townreading him earlier

[Luka]

Aaaaalll right, then I'm going for the legacy post, because it looks like you're all going to do this.

Helz - duh
Martin - Probably still town, although he's playing pretty poorly right now; that argument saying "b-but the meta clears on Lily!! I must sheep them!!!" while ignoring everything else was very bad lol, and if there's something strange to look at, that's a good start
DM - Town or evil teacher; fairly possible he's evil teacher, and the protective should claim if he protected him N1, else his claim is fake and the reason he survived the N1 attack was simply his anti-Mafia immunity
Oliverz - looks towny enough. Strange but "natural" progression for him, also still liked his D1 (cf. him being very happy to have "caught" Baker). Wouldn't touch.
Huo - should be town, believable claim, needs to bring in valuable info though, if there's STILL no valuable info tomorrow, they would get slightly suspicious imo, but ehh.

Porscha - where are youuuuu, possibly voice of reason but also voice that doesn't exist I think you're probably town, but you're not here enough for me to judge well
Luka - not sure tbh

Mizery - Kinda felt genuine lately, so I don't know anymore tbh, but not super towny for sure

Lily - JUST LYNCH/PROPOSE/WHATEVER HER, FOR GOD'S SAKE XD. I AM DEAD (OR WILL BE IN LIKE 15 MIN), AND I COMPEL YOU FROM HEAVEN. FOLLOW THE DAMN LEAD.
Scumbot - Disappeared. Is watching the world burn. Has had his vote on me for reasons unknown. Is coasting away with a relatively fine consensus on him, one that should allow him to survive. VERY SUSPICIOUS. Potential BH in my opinion.
Cape - still obviously scum


Don't think I'm missing anything.

ISO me lol
Lily is town dont propose them
Propose me

[Luka]

Lily is literally IC

[Marshmallow Marshall]

A subject that has not been brought up is BwcPorscha

How does everyone feel about them? I kind of sense most people have a pretty null opinion and they are sliding under the radar.

I felt good about them earlier, mostly due to tone iirc. It's just that they disappeared, basically, which is weird. If I had to lynch an under-the-radar slot, though, it would be Scumbot before Porscha.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

@Varcron
If your anti Mafia target within the PoE and force them on Cape. We will work to kill your enemies either way so helping the town is also your strongest chance to win

To the evil teacher- as stated Oliver is vengeful and will be targeting cape. Killing him by self pairing or by targeting within the PoE will push your wincon well.

i think vengeful picks after death? or during night? if after death, he could wait to see if cape dies and if dead target someone else in poe

[Mizery]

ISO me lol
Lily is town dont propose them
Propose me

Sorry what's the logic there

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

"You must choose while alive" nvm

[Luka]

Sorry what's the logic there

Liyl is IC they dont claim it as woof
im a contentsious slot + I can protect helz as the TG
It works out

[Dark Magician]

I agree about sus on scumbot since he kinda dropped off the radar completely

They claimed Cat Lady though.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

@Helz 10 minutes, i hate putting pressure on people but you kinda have to choose here and you are still on cape

[Helz]

I felt good about them earlier, mostly due to tone iirc. It's just that they disappeared, basically, which is weird. If I had to lynch an under-the-radar slot, though, it would be Scumbot before Porscha.

It would have been my first choice but I don’t understand the cat lady claim. It’s awful for scum cover. Confirmable utility with scum pairing. Yet nobody has encountered a cat and claimed which means they are blocking scum or lying.

Wish they were here to give targets..
If they are scum they are evil cat lady/Mafia for sure

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Mm you think luka can be a wolf? No real read on him that you gave when I thought you were townreading him earlier

Yes. My townread on him was light, as indicated by what should be a light green-yellowish color and a low position in the town part of my old colorful readslist. He exists, he says things.... has he actually done anything that puts him out of the range of being scum? no. Has he claimed? no. He's more or less coasting on a favourable impression that everyone seems to give him. He absolutely could be town playing a relatively low-profile game, that's not excluded at all, but the other options aren't either.

If I had time, I'd ISO him, but I don't think that's super appropriate here lol.

[MartinGG99]

Martin - Probably still town, although he's playing pretty poorly right now; that argument saying "b-but the meta clears on Lily!! I must sheep them!!!" while ignoring everything else was very bad lol, and if there's something strange to look at, that's a good start

I have a long-standing issue of not knowing when to listen to myself or to others more when solving, though that issue is generally more harder to witness as I'm not always publicizing my every single thought. But frequently if I'm not hard-set into an idea and enough people voice opposing views I will eventually cave in just through implicit or direct peer pressure, not because I think they're right, but because I don't want to be wrong and/or I think I should owe them consideration.

Not that's any excuse. Just an explanation if you are town and want a serious answer on one part of how I got there on Lily.

[Dark Magician]

Liyl is IC they dont claim it as woof
im a contentsious slot + I can protect helz as the TG
It works out

Congrats.
You made yourself the next mafia kill by claiming Protective.
Smh.

[Dark Magician]

But I had no doubt you and Lily were town anyway so.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Congrats.
You made yourself the next mafia kill by claiming Protective.
Smh.

i think he did so a bit earlier today Mr Magician

[Dark Magician]

We should vote off Porscha.
No room for them to be town here tbh.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

["im cat lady" is the post before that in his ISO]
I forgot n2 but I targeted varcron n1. I've sent my cat to oli just to confirm my role but if you think it would be better used elsewhere I could change it real fast

Had missed this. Targeted a dead man N1 and "forgot" N2...?? What? That's thoroughly silly. An investigative doesn't forget who he investigates lmao - just for that, it sounds more like evil cat lady.

It's indeed bad play if scum, though, I don't see why he'd claim that and not something else. Very weird. At the very least, he needs to pick a target that will allow him to confirm himself somehow.

[MartinGG99]

It would have been my first choice but I don’t understand the cat lady claim. It’s awful for scum cover. Confirmable utility with scum pairing. Yet nobody has encountered a cat and claimed which means they are blocking scum or lying.

Wish they were here to give targets..
If they are scum they are evil cat lady/Mafia for sure

@Helz

you missed scumbot saying he forgot n2 and gave it to varcron n1

[MartinGG99]

Marshmallow Marshall (4):
MartinGG99, Lilypetal, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, scumbot5679
Lilypetal (1):
Marshmallow Marshall
Huo Huo and Mr Tail (1):
Cape90
Cape90 (2):
bwcPorscha, Helz
Mizery (1):
oliverz144

[Helz]

-vote bwcPorscha

Just gona do this

I very much question Scumbot’s claim but it can be sorted with a conversation. From play I townread Mm but I dislike 3 saplings in a game designed to cripple towns lynch power with minimal kill utility. Misery is a slot everyone is back and foreth on but I would rather see Porsha sorted than them.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

-vote bwcPorscha

[Helz]

@Helz

you missed scumbot saying he forgot n2 and gave it to varcron n1

Fair enough. He can confirm himself tonight

[MartinGG99]

-vote bwcPorscha

[Dark Magician]

Had missed this. Targeted a dead man N1 and "forgot" N2...?? What? That's thoroughly silly. An investigative doesn't forget who he investigates lmao - just for that, it sounds more like evil cat lady.

It's indeed bad play if scum, though, I don't see why he'd claim that and not something else. Very weird. At the very least, he needs to pick a target that will allow him to confirm himself somehow.

He said he gave Cat to Oliver.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Aaaalright, I think that's it lol, and noone's moving. The power of reevaluation isn't very strong with you, eh?

Spoiler : the top secret game solve :

GJ on your town-cide. Or ecocide, I guess, since I'm a tree. There will be more CO2 in the atmosphere due to you.

[Dark Magician]

So Oliver should be able to confirm Scumbot tonight.