S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

[Luka]

If Mizery, Scumbot, Marshmellow, BWC, or Lily is Sapling please out.
If a pacifist is in this game, please out.
If detector is in this game, please out.
If Fancy Lady or Judge is in this game, please out.

Bumping this. Frankly, we can probably make this auto.
If detector is in the game we just do not lose. Ever. If they out.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I’m kinda down with any of those. Luka is less likely mafia in my book but I feel our chances are great shooting into such a PoE. Will take some time to read into players when I wrap this project up and get home

Among that PoE, I'd be more surprised if Porscha were scum than if Luka were, but I have no super massive objection to either, although they're definetly not my first picks. The PoE is great overall, though; if we could blow all of them up, we'd probably win lol.

Also, Luka, I agree with pretty much all of what you said about claiming, but before any of that happens, Mizery should claim. She's the main suspect and the most likely lynch, so she should be the one going out in the open so that she can't hide well if she's scum.

[Luka]

Among that PoE, I'd be more surprised if Porscha were scum than if Luka were, but I have no super massive objection to either, although they're definetly not my first picks. The PoE is great overall, though; if we could blow all of them up, we'd probably win lol.

Also, Luka, I agree with pretty much all of what you said about claiming, but before any of that happens, Mizery should claim. She's the main suspect and the most likely lynch, so she should be the one going out in the open so that she can't hide well if she's scum.

I agree she should claim first yes. Honestly we probably win with mass claim.
This setup is very unbalanced and we played day one poorly by not mass claiming lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

hah. i buy dms read on lily.

towncore:
oli
helz
lily
dm
huo huo


scum
cape



others

you're TOWNCORING lily based on DM's weak stuff? Sorry but umm... have you lost your mind?

[Luka]

Ill start by claiming tough guy. I truly am a silly tough guy.

[Helz]

I'm sorry exactly why are we not killing cape today

The ghost can target players PoE and force them onto cape role blocking the player / elimination of cape.

our vengeful can target cape opening the door for eliminating them at night via Evil teacher. Also potential to mail 2 scum at once

It lets us vote in the PoE sorting the game and maybe killing a scum.

Lots of upside in such a play while town is hurting for ways to shoot into a scum packed PoE

[oliverz144]

How do we maximize kill power by not killing
There are no town roles who can kill at night without being killed themselves
And you're putting a lot of trust in oli to he town when I don't get why

-vote Mizery

on hypixel, a site where both me and mizery play,we say
cfd
train
lynch train
blitz wagon
and many other cool words i know forgot

[Marshmallow Marshall]

The ghost can target players PoE and force them onto cape role blocking the player / elimination of cape.

our vengeful can target cape opening the door for eliminating them at night via Evil teacher. Also potential to mail 2 scum at once

It lets us vote in the PoE sorting the game and maybe killing a scum.

Lots of upside in such a play while town is hurting for ways to shoot into a scum packed PoE

@Varcron since you might want to know what you should be doing lol.

[Helz]

Pacifist and evil pacifist are not in the game. We woulda had their interaction last night.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also

-vote Mizery

Claim

[MartinGG99]

-vote scumbot5679

just throwing an idea out there

I don't get town reads on Varacron at all.

[oliverz144]

S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

Player List:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Mizery
3. Cape90
4. MartinGG99
5. Scumbot5679
6. Auwt
7. Luka
8. bakermir - Teacher
9. Helz
10. Dark Magician
11. oliverz144
12. Huo Huo and Mr Tail
13. lilypetal
14. bwcPorscha
15. Varcron

White = Alive, Color = Dead with Role reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.

Game will begin Monday 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference.

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Links to EoD will be found below:

Link to Night 1
Link to Night 2

@powerofdeath please update this
will the color work?

[MartinGG99]

Also

-vote Mizery

Claim

tbh I'm not sure they're ever going to claim

they had plenty of time and opportunity to do so

or at least I would've claimed by this point if I were mizery

[Luka]

jst rolecall lol

[oliverz144]

i wanted to type a photo but i will paste it out
mm
mizery
martin
scumbot
luka
porscha


biggest poe for today

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

-vote Mizery

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

i wanted to type a photo but i will paste it out
mm
mizery
martin
scumbot
luka
porscha


biggest poe for today

take martin out imo

[oliverz144]

you're TOWNCORING lily based on DM's weak stuff? Sorry but umm... have you lost your mind?

my dear
i have seen it
i have found it.

the subtle. the hidden. the secret.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

tbh I'm not sure they're ever going to claim

they had plenty of time and opportunity to do so

or at least I would've claimed by this point if I were mizery

Well, she's gone, and I don't think whatever she says will change much at this point...

I'm a tree-hugger, minus the hugging part. Citizen with enhanced suicide ability XD

[Marshmallow Marshall]

i wanted to type a photo but i will paste it out
mm
mizery
martin
scumbot
luka
porscha


biggest poe for today

What is Martin doing in there
(and me )

[oliverz144]

mm
mizery
martin - what was the protective martin claimed again?
scumbot
luka - tough guy #1605
porscha


biggest poe for today

[oliverz144]

mm - sapling 1619
mizery
martin - what was the protective martin claimed again?
scumbot
luka - tough guy #1605
porscha


biggest poe for today

[MartinGG99]

I hate to say it but I think I'm fine with MM being in the PoE.

Their fixation on Lily + how they interacted with me with a townread instead of any substantiative discussion earlier is really bothering me, and the fact that they claimed a Sapling(?) role has me worried.

There's a chance they're evil teacher. I'd have some difficulty in seeing them as BH or mafia though.

[oliverz144]

yeah we literally are left with
scumbot porscha mizery
guess we push mizery, i think i voted her allready?

DEAR EVIL TEACHER
KILL OLIVER AND SOMEBODY OF PORSCHA/SCUMBOT TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE OF WINNING
OTHERWISE THE MAFIA WILL KILL YOU

I REPEAT: OTHERWISE THE MAFIA WILL KILL YOU!!!

[oliverz144]

I hate to say it but I think I'm fine with MM being in the PoE.

Their fixation on Lily + how they interacted with me with a townread instead of any substantiative discussion earlier is really bothering me, and the fact that they claimed a Sapling(?) role has me worried.

There's a chance they're evil teacher. I'd have some difficulty in seeing them as BH or mafia though.

yeah

[oliverz144]

we will nk him tonight anyway martin

[oliverz144]

oh shhit wrong chat

[scumbot5679]

i have been very busy lately and I have to go soon anyways since I have a meeting @ 4:30 but I'm not scum so anyone that has me in thier POE is either wrong or scum themselves.

[oliverz144]

yeah hihihi hahaha im soooo oooo totally scum

[Lilypetal]

Hi. We're probably not lynching Cape today. Who should we lynch according to you?

wat why would we not yeet cape

[MartinGG99]

martin - what was the protective martin claimed again?

soul mate

I successfully protect someone once and then we're bounded till death do us part

[Lilypetal]

i'm sapling

[scumbot5679]

-vote scumbot5679

just throwing an idea out there

Why is me not town reading scum, scummy?

[Dark Magician]

I loose an ability that would be absolutely critical in a 3p lylo or potentially very useful in many others.

Your town. You do not need mechanical confirmation. Your vote power is worth much more than you being confirmed and nobody is pushing you. I’m flat out not going to marry you for those reasons. And I will also say there are specific interactions I’m keeping in mind that can only occur if I still have this ability.

I really don’t think you understand yet then from what you just said to me.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

wat why would we not yeet cape

why are you not reading the conversation ma'am?

-Huohuo

[Lilypetal]

why are you not reading the conversation ma'am?

-Huohuo

i missed something i think lol

[Dark Magician]

There is a reason I said I was likely the night one kill but they couldn’t kill me.

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

I was thinking about it and I think Mr Magician's role is not as straight forward as people seem to think, it can be more than 1 thing

[Dark Magician]

i'm sapling

Hmm.
Don’t use your ability then if that’s the case.
Or it will end up back for town.

Please take my word on that.

[Dark Magician]

Bad for town*

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

i missed something i think lol

basicly we are solving with cape wolf in mind

and leaving cape's death to the evil teacher

[Lilypetal]

Hmm.
Don’t use your ability then if that’s the case.
Or it will end up back for town.

Please take my word on that.

im aware, p meme role

[Lilypetal]

basicly we are solving with cape wolf in mind

and leaving cape's death to the evil teacher

what does evil teacher do?

[Dark Magician]

Why is me not town reading scum, scummy?

If I could vote I would vote this

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

Hmm.
Don’t use your ability then if that’s the case.
Or it will end up back for town.

Please take my word on that.

no way there's 2 sapplings right?

[scumbot5679]

yeah hihihi hahaha im soooo oooo totally scum

I have infact been town reading you the entire game but I mean, even if you guys (wrongly) think I'm scum there are still 4 scum, not counting Cape, do you honestly think they are going to town read me?

[MartinGG99]

Why is me not town reading scum, scummy?

I'm just drumming stuff up.

But tldr there's a rough town-core of sorts (give or take 1 depending on who you ask -- these are the most common names I see) with Helz / Me / Luka / Hou Hou / Oli and we've figured there's only two towns left to find (only 7 are alive in the game) and so we've made PoEs out of the rest of the game.

If we figure out who's town then we can just annihilate the rest. Easier than just figuring out if someone's specifically mafia or evil teacher or whatever.

[Dark Magician]

im aware, p meme role

Yes and technically you use the role in one of two ways.

Play as a lame VT
Or Be The Voice town needs for the rest of the game and can never die.

[scumbot5679]

If I could vote I would vote this

why?

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

what does evil teacher do?

picks 2 people at night, if they are opposite alignments, kill both

we are thinking leaving oliver and cape for the evil teacher, that way oliver can use his vengeful shot

maximixing our kp

that's my understanding of the current situation