S-FM 355: Nonstandard Roles 3

[Luka]

what town forgets who they are scumreading?

Me

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

what town forgets who they are scumreading?

I do

[scumbot5679]

Me

I do

the echo chamber is real

[Dark Magician]

the echo chamber is real

The Town Tree Grows.

[Dark Magician]

what town forgets who they are scumreading?

This isn’t Mafia.
This is a pure thought.

Of course I’m already pretty confident I have the mafia team so lol.

[scumbot5679]

+ its weird in my last 2 games bake was really really try hard so him just giving up seems way way out of character

[scumbot5679]

I'd have to fact check but if oliver were getting voted then occams just says he voted Oliver over cape b/c he's opportunistic scum

[MartinGG99]

I may have overslept a fair bit

I'm currently eating my dinner and will be skimming in like 15-20 min

[MartinGG99]

As in, like, I don't have any issues with the reads there that cape made. Its a bit disorienting though to think someone has me on the same level as MM though while both reads being town-leans or whatever lol.

[MartinGG99]

Porscha's posts early page 7 read genuine, maybe town-lean for this idk prob mull it over when night phase hits

Yes I'm aware my vote is on them. But if I unvote then that counts as a skip so I'd rather leave it there for now.

[scumbot5679]

I mean, how does this play out here? Say we end up flipping huo tomorrow and it's scum. Are you going to go "well DM TMI'd huo's scum flip. lez kill it!" but doesn't that also mean you are TMIing a Huo scum flip?

[MartinGG99]

I mean, how does this play out here? Say we end up flipping huo tomorrow and it's scum. Are you going to go "well DM TMI'd huo's scum flip. lez kill it!" but doesn't that also mean you are TMIing a Huo scum flip?

Honestly, I don't get what you're saying here and considering I'm town and don't have tmi I'm just going to ignore what you're saying.

I also have get back to skimming up more.

[Helz]

-vote oliverz144

Gona run but going to park here. Im comfortable with a tossup between Oliverz and Bakermir. Feels a little like two groups on the trains which could prove useful post-flip while I dislike the idea of a total lack of a counter wagon.

Lilypetal (1):
Marshmallow Marshall
oliverz144 (2):
bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail
bakermir (4):
oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Varcron (1):
Helz
Marshmallow Marshall (1):
Auwt
bwcPorscha (1):
MartinGG99
Cape90 (1):
Lilypetal
Huo Huo and Mr Tail (1):
bwcPorscha

20 minutes until days end.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Sorry, I'm late, came as soon as I could

-vote oliverz144

Gona run but going to park here. Im comfortable with a tossup between Oliverz and Bakermir. Feels a little like two groups on the trains which could prove useful post-flip while I dislike the idea of a total lack of a counter wagon.

Lilypetal (1):
Marshmallow Marshall
oliverz144 (2):
bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail
bakermir (4):
oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Varcron (1):
Helz
Marshmallow Marshall (1):
Auwt
bwcPorscha (1):
MartinGG99
Cape90 (1):
Lilypetal
Huo Huo and Mr Tail (1):
bwcPorscha

20 minutes until days end.

I don't like either of those trains, tbh. Feels like a potential TvT (or perhaps including a neutral somewhere, if I had to guess it'd be Oliverz), and likely not containing scum. I'm also not sure why Oliverz is being voted at all, other than bakermir selfpreservation.

[MartinGG99]

oliverz144 (3):
bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4):
oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90

If we remove Helz from the equation, I trust the bakermir voters over the oliverz voters

-vote bakermir

Porscha's interactions with baker have been very good btw

[scumbot5679]

Well, most of the game is ignoring me anyways. I think I got it though. You are reading it as DM TMIing me.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Huo Huo and Mr Tail

Because this would be a better wagon than the other two

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Huo Huo and Mr Tail

Because this would be a better wagon than the other two

This is better than the other 1-vote wagons and definetly better than baker or oli imo

[MartinGG99]

its been ages since I last saw oli seriously play a game recent years he's been preety aloof when playing games and semi-just-not-caring but his case on baker seems a bit genuine on him

[Marshmallow Marshall]

its been ages since I last saw oli seriously play a game recent years he's been preety aloof when playing games and semi-just-not-caring but his case on baker seems a bit genuine on him

^^^ this

I dislike the fact that people like Lilypetal, Huo Huo or Luka didn't get any attention, basically, and everyone's focusing on Oli/Baker/(Cape earlier)


Also, reading up on the TMI accusations, I don't get any of them....

[MartinGG99]

Idk which wagon tbh.

[MartinGG99]

-vote Huo Huo and Mr Tail

[powerofdeath]

Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha
oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt
Cape90 (1): Lilypetal
Skip Day (3): Luka; Dark Magician; Varcron

Bakermir was lynched.

Their role:

Spoiler : “Role Card” :

Teacher - Choose 2 players at night. Learn if their alignments match or not. (Mafia/Town/neutral). Cannot target self.

[Mizery]

Martin's last minute vote switch was nagl but the question is would a wolf vote bakermir just to switch off before flipping

probbaly not

so Martin prob v

[MartinGG99]

Martin's last minute vote switch was nagl but the question is would a wolf vote bakermir just to switch off before flipping

probbaly not

so Martin prob v

I don't feel like this is a genuine thought, vote-switching at EoD can easily be read or argued as AI almost entirely irrespective of the circumstances. Too-wolf-to-be-a-wolf doesn't really work if its easily wifomable.

Also really just looks at things at sort of a...strange face-value way.

There's no questioning of me about it.

There's no mention of me saying idk about either wagons.

Its just entirely focused on the fact that I switched and that we know one of the flips.

So I can't really buy that if you're town that you're reading me as "prob v" off this.

[MartinGG99]

"and/or" should be "as"

I don't know what happened in my brain there.

[MartinGG99]

Actually the grammatically incorrect sentence is just terrible please pretend you all understood it and the errors don't exist

[oliverz144]

I don't feel like this is a genuine thought, vote-switching at EoD can easily be read or argued as AI almost entirely irrespective of the circumstances. Too-wolf-to-be-a-wolf doesn't really work if its easily wifomable.

Also really just looks at things at sort of a...strange face-value way.

There's no questioning of me about it.

There's no mention of me saying idk about either wagons.

Its just entirely focused on the fact that I switched and that we know one of the flips.

So I can't really buy that if you're town that you're reading me as "prob v" off this.

i do
i have you and mm as town for eod

[Luka]

I don't feel like this is a genuine thought, vote-switching at EoD can easily be read or argued as AI almost entirely irrespective of the circumstances. Too-wolf-to-be-a-wolf doesn't really work if its easily wifomable.

Also really just looks at things at sort of a...strange face-value way.

There's no questioning of me about it.

There's no mention of me saying idk about either wagons.

Its just entirely focused on the fact that I switched and that we know one of the flips.

So I can't really buy that if you're town that you're reading me as "prob v" off this.

Thats a perfectly reasonable read. It isn't TWTBAW, wolf wouldn't want to switch. Really confused at this.

[MartinGG99]

Thats a perfectly reasonable read. It isn't TWTBAW, wolf wouldn't want to switch. Really confused at this.

I mean if you call something a bad look then say a wolf wouldn't do that

that's litterally the essence of TWTBAW

because otherwise it wouldn't be a bad look in the first place

[bwcPorscha]

Thats a perfectly reasonable read. It isn't TWTBAW, wolf wouldn't want to switch. Really confused at this.

reasonable? sure
should be assumed? meh
I think it's wifom
but with much wifom sometimes you just need to pick which you think is more likely based on your experience or whatever so I made a face at it but let it slide

[Mizery]

Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha
oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt
Cape90 (1): Lilypetal
Skip Day (3): Luka; Dark Magician; Varcron

Bakermir was lynched.

Their role:

Spoiler : “Role Card” :

Teacher - Choose 2 players at night. Learn if their alignments match or not. (Mafia/Town/neutral). Cannot target self.

ok luka

[Luka]

ok luka

Either host didnt see it or I used incorrect formatting
This si my first time on this forum, but I made it very clear whom I intended to vote and to my knwoledge made it clear that I voted them

[Mizery]

Either host didnt see it or I used incorrect formatting
This si my first time on this forum, but I made it very clear whom I intended to vote and to my knwoledge made it clear that I voted them

Yeah and regardless it wasn't a valid vote, and if you were a wolf I'd definitely expect the wolf team to try and get you to vote correctly

but like also i'm not going to argue your alignment with you if you're trying to tell me i'm wrong then ok i'm wrong you're a wolf

[Luka]

Yeah and regardless it wasn't a valid vote, and if you were a wolf I'd definitely expect the wolf team to try and get you to vote correctly

but like also i'm not going to argue your alignment with you if you're trying to tell me i'm wrong then ok i'm wrong you're a wolf

Oh no please call me town all you like I relish being called town
Its like medicine to heal my wounded heart

[Dark Magician]

Huo Huo and Mr Tail (3): Marshmallow Marshall, MartinGG99, bwcPorscha
oliverz144 (3): bakermir, Huo Huo and Mr Tail, Helz
bakermir (4): oliverz144, Mizery, scumbot5679, Cape90
Marshmallow Marshall (1): Auwt
Cape90 (1): Lilypetal
Skip Day (3): Luka; Dark Magician; Varcron

Bakermir was lynched.

Their role:

Spoiler : “Role Card” :

Teacher - Choose 2 players at night. Learn if their alignments match or not. (Mafia/Town/neutral). Cannot target self.

As you can see here.
They saved Oliver.

[Varcron]

As you can see here.
They saved Oliver.

I see that

But that could also be scum paint to get a second town lynched and sow doubt in us.

[Dark Magician]

I see that

But that could also be scum paint to get a second town lynched and sow doubt in us.

But Mizery came into today with not even wanting to touch Oliver I don’t think.

[oliverz144]

I see that

But that could also be scum paint to get a second town lynched and sow doubt in us.

ok ok ok
dont listen to his bull shit
i made A CLEAR CASE ON A SCUMREAD WITH ARGUMENTS
BAKERMIR FCKING FROZE AND GAVE UP, DIDNT CLAIM DIDNT EXPLAIN NOTHIN
ends up being the fcking cop
AMD TRIES VOTING ME OUT OF SELF PRES

[Huo Huo and Mr Tail]

ok ok ok
dont listen to his bull shit
i made A CLEAR CASE ON A SCUMREAD WITH ARGUMENTS
BAKERMIR FCKING FROZE AND GAVE UP, DIDNT CLAIM DIDNT EXPLAIN NOTHIN
ends up being the fcking cop
AMD TRIES VOTING ME OUT OF SELF PRES

*Insert bombastic side eye*

[Mizery]

As you can see here.
They saved Oliver.

your timeline is fucked

[powerofdeath]

Night 1 has begun!

Night 1 end on Friday, 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference to when Night 1 end.

Please submit your night actions at least 60 minutes before the deadline, all actions will be locked 60 minutes before the deadline.

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to DMs me on Discord or via the website.

Player List:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Mizery
3. Cape90
4. MartinGG99
5. Scumbot5679
6. Auwt
7. Luka
8. bakermir - Teacher
9. Helz
10. Dark Magician
11. oliverz144
12. Huo Huo and Mr Tail
13. lilypetal
14. bwcPorscha
15. Varcron

White = Alive, Color = Dead with Role reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.

[powerofdeath]

Day 2 has begun!

Day 2 end on Sunday, 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference to when Day 2 end.

There is a bounty on Helz’s head.

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to DMs me on Discord or via the website.

Player List:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Mizery
3. Cape90
4. MartinGG99
5. Scumbot5679
6. Auwt
7. Luka
8. bakermir - Teacher
9. Helz
10. Dark Magician
11. oliverz144
12. Huo Huo and Mr Tail
13. lilypetal
14. bwcPorscha
15. Varcron

White = Alive, Color = Dead with Role reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.

[powerofdeath]

Day 3 has begun!

Day 3 end on Wednesday, 7:00 PM EST. Click here for reference to when Day 3 end.



If you have any questions, do not hesitate to DMs me on Discord or via the website.

Player List:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Mizery
3. Cape90
4. MartinGG99
5. Scumbot5679
6. Auwt - Door Salesman
7. Luka
8. bakermir - Teacher
9. Helz
10. Dark Magician
11. oliverz144
12. Huo Huo and Mr Tail
13. lilypetal
14. bwcPorscha
15. Varcron - Ghost

White = Alive, Color = Dead with Role reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.

[Mizery]

On one hand nice on the other hand we have 2 days to find the bounty hunter before we have to lynch helz

[bwcPorscha]

On one hand nice on the other hand we have 2 days to find the bounty hunter before we have to lynch helz

bounty hunter doesn't win until 2 players don't get lynched and they can only act on odd nights, so I don't think the bounty hunter can even win before day 7 at the earliest? is my math mathing correctly here

[Lilypetal]

helo

im sad baker died because they're the one that invited me :c

[Mizery]

I'm sad baker died before i got to ask him if he remembered esooa

kinda my fault but in my defense no it wasn't

[scumbot5679]

not that anyone cares what I say but the EOD was odd yesterday. After doing his best Chris Crocker impression, MM voted Hou after expressing some interest in us not voting there. Although looking back he doesn't seem as opposed as I first thought but it's still sort of just fence sitting.

Voting the uwu spam slot into oblivion on D1 seems like a good way to have very little information because it's not the kind of slot that will create very interesting or analysable interactions imo, so I'm not against the concept, even though I don't particularly townread them

Part of me just wants to think that MM and Martin finally saw the light after no selling my case earlier but a more cynical view is that they knew I'd be hard pushing Huo today, regardless of Bake's flip and they wanted to endear themselves to me. I mean, it's just so odd to me that they said 0 about my case on Huo and then voted there?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

not that anyone cares what I say but the EOD was odd yesterday. After doing his best Chris Crocker impression, MM voted Hou after expressing some interest in us not voting there. Although looking back he doesn't seem as opposed as I first thought but it's still sort of just fence sitting.

Part of me just wants to think that MM and Martin finally saw the light after no selling my case earlier but a more cynical view is that they knew I'd be hard pushing Huo today, regardless of Bake's flip and they wanted to endear themselves to me. I mean, it's just so odd to me that they said 0 about my case on Huo and then voted there?

...no, in fact, I didn't even realize you scumread Huo at all, because you left zero impression on me and your vote was on Baker, not on them. You basically just exist in my book. I just felt like lynching Baker or Oliverz was likely a pretty bad idea (no good case against them + gut saying no), so I went for the best preexisting wagon in the hope to lynch someone else who was suspicious/who had committed the heinous crime of not being towny, and Huo happened to be exactly that. I would not necessarily be sold on lynching them today, for what it's worth, although I'm not super opposed to it. I'll ISO you and take a look at your case.