My vote+noms list would be something like:
Scumbot
MM
Varcron
Lol
Pending what else I can get done before deadline.
My vote+noms list would be something like:
Scumbot
MM
Varcron
Lol
Pending what else I can get done before deadline.
My top town reads are tutuu, vittae, and martin, in no particular order. I believe it's unlikely that all three of you are Mafia, and I wouldn't want to see any of you eliminated this early in the game.
Regarding cyan, it's a bit complex to explain. Yellows haven't provided enough material to earn a higher tr than the greens or cyans, and while I can construct a comprehensive argument for why I see scumbot as mafia, that's just my personal perspective. I don't intend to be the driving force behind any elimination today, as long as we don't eliminate anyone from the green or cyan groups; they are off the chopping board for me.
I could also share a page from my spreadsheet, but I doubt it would make much sense without explaining the thought process and the trail of posts I have been following. I think it's a bit early for me to leak all my thoughts to the thread, as I recognize that my reads are likely wrong given the early stage of the game (with no flips).
This applies to his post count but I moreso meant the length / quality of his posts.
There's only two posts that contain reads that aren't just IIoA / commentary in his ISO and in both of those there's nothing about the solving that goes beyond the surface level / things that I think would be remotely difficult to fake.
The commentary posts just point out things that are very obvious already and don't go anywhere, making them seem very much like busywork.
I think I get you.
I like hearing the way people solve, right or wrong, both out of curiosity and because I think as you lean more about the way a specific person thinks and solves you can get inside their heads ans they become exponentially easier to read. If you've got stuff to share then I'd be very eager to look but I won't try to force it since I'm generally unwilling to share my own personal notes and I don't plan on being a hypocrite.
What do you think Varcron in particular has done to provide enough material to earn a higher townread from you? That's definitely one I'm very interested in hearing more about.
I agree. Keeping this in mind lets go back at your reads again:
You have Vittae/?? or Martin/?? + MM/Varcron
That still leaves us with two mafia members if we stop circling around the names. We need three.
Have you had an opportunity to review your reads and see if anything has changed? @CRichardForumLies
Any people online who aren't voting MM or Scumbot who'd be willing to vote either of those slots so we can tie the wagons at a higher number and make them less prone to manipulation?
I'm not willing to leave the wagons tied with the current 2-2-2 tie.
The current three-way tie wagon formation is basically never going to result in a dead wolf and even if we try to agree on a specific person to vote out of the three that person can justifiably self pres onto somebody else and break the tie without necessarily even looking bad for it.
Plus 2 votes < 3 wolves and I don't need to explain why that's so prone to manipulation.
A wolf flip is very unlikely unless the wagons are w/w/w and that's not something I think is at all likely either.
I didn't realise that EoD was so close already.
Ikarus are you around and would you be willing to move to consolidate the wagons while keeping a tie?
Is there seriously nobody here again at EoD?
I'm here. Who is at 2 votes each?
I'm breaking the tie onto MM if nobody's willing to consolidate.
Scumbot-MM should be the wagons we consolidate onto.
I'd go MM 1st over Scumbot.
An extension is great but absolutely not worth the cost of risking a flip on Tutuu if MM or Scumbot try to self pres.
MM's not my first choice but I think he's scummy enough where I don't mind seeing him flip today.
Is MM still not even voting yet?
That makes these wagons impossible to tie then.
-vote Marshmallow Marshall
Varcron is a name I haven't seen in town lists, yet isn't getting votes. That adds fuel to the fire on them being UTR mafia.
scumbot5679 (1):
bakermir
Marshmallow Marshall (3):
scumbot5679, Vittae,
tutuu (2):
lol, ikarusdk
The Scarlet Letters (1):
tutuu
Marshmallow Marshall was lynched. His role is Town.
You have 24 hours to nominate three players that will be up for lynching tomorrow. Day 2 will begin immediately as soon as you lock in your nomination. It could start in 5 min or 24 hours. I will ping everyone on Discord when Day 2 begins.
Last edited by powerofdeath; September 17th, 2023 at 06:03 AM.
Player List:
1. MartinGG99
2.Marshmallow Marshall- Lynched Day 1
3. Varcron
4. ikarusdk
5. tutuu
6. scumbot5679
7. Vittae
8. bakermir
9. lol
10. CRichardForumLiesThe Scarlet Letters (Nancy/Italiano Hydra)
White = Alive, Color = Dead with alignment reveal This list will be updated as game start to unfold.
Last edited by powerofdeath; September 17th, 2023 at 06:07 AM.
Day 2 has begun!
Marshmallow Marshall nominated:
CRichardForumLies; lol; Varcron
Day 2 end on Monday, 10:40 AM EST. Click here for reference to when Day 2 end.
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to DMs me on Discord or via the website.
A nominee is allowed to vote other nominees before anyone ask.
Not my ideal list of nominations but at least one we can work with.
What I'm going to do myself and what I also suggest everyone else does is focus on talking about and solving the nominated names as a priority.
Obviously solving everyone and trying to solve the game on a wider scale is still important but with how stagnant discussion was for large parts of D1 we should absolutely be prioritising the imminent issue of "who is the most likely wolf in the list of nominations?" above all else.
And, while this is hopefully much less of an issue now that only three wagons can legally voted, having the lead wagon only have 2 votes is not something that should ever again be happening close to EoD.
Nobody should be having no vote placed down closer to EoD. If, for some reason, this doesn't happen and very few votes are down then consolidating wagons is absolutely still key.
Sorry for kind of ranting over this, I'm still pretty frustrated by how the situation ended up going down earlier and we're absolutely not allowing EoDs with wagons like that to happen again.
I have concerns with Varcron's re-entrance but I'd like to see his responses to me before I go any further there.
It's probably the right call for me to give him space until later in the cycle, at the very least, and not just accidentally bury the guy before he gets the chance to demonstrate some solving.
Just me here again?
Omg i fell asleep what happened
Just to be transparent i would have voted mm here if i was here
I mentioned we're not w/w coz that was my fleeting thought
I had remembered baker longing to be w/w with me
So then i quite literally wasnt w/w with him. It was also just funny to me to say stuff like that sometimes. Bit of a stone face humor. Like, imagine a character from The Office saying that
U think im a wolf who forgot that im supposed to pretend im town? Wolves are more conscious of these things. Im town and i didnt and dont care about manipulating. I think i temd to be scummier as town than when im wolf
Anyway this is a pretty towny post. A lot of depth here, about me and vittae. U mentioned ur new. No shot u fake that as wolf imo. U can be town. But pls stop trying to kill me man, friendly fire 😂
I can vouch for Ikarus being a relatively new player to FM, yeah.
And that he's very likely town for reasons I'll go into depth on later but are pretty low priority for me compared to some more immediate things I want to spend my time looking at.
Ideally I'd also like to get around to rereading the recent wolf game of Ikarus' in more detail but I'm not sure if I'll get enough time to do that I enough detail within the next week hours.
*24 hours
Spreadsheet? O_O
Ok wait im getting a bit paranoid now lmao
This is mega towny but like. I dont remember seeing u put in this much passion into it with like. Tools. Like stuff that isnt posts.
So this is new to me. I am a bit paranoid u could be too towny to be town. As town before uve always been a bit of a gremlin
Can i ask - where did this passion to put in this effort in this particular game come from?
God Vittae posts a lot. Theyre like a budget JaggedJimmyJay. I tend to get snowed by players like that. Idk how im supposed to catch players like that wolfing. I think he's town 🤷