I don't think that's generally a valid tell since experienced wolves should and will frequently abuse such things, especially when it comes down to pushing players they'd otherwise have difficulty pushing over (Tutuu definitely fitting that bill in a t-Tutuu, w-lol, w-ika world).
That being said, I think on reflection the fact that the second vote was cast by Ikarus (who is a less experienced player and likely to be very self conscious of such a thing as a wolf) is probably a point in favour of them being unaligned even if I wouldn't really hard clear them from being partners just on that alone.
But like also
Ikarus is probably town anyway
If Ikarus is new to forum mafia, that's a point in their favor being town. As they don't give off stilted newbie mafia vibes from their posts.
My town list is something like this
Me
Bakermir
Vittae
tutuu
lol
Ikaru
Scumbot
I wouldn't be surprised if this list has at least 1 mafia I've miscleared, because no way I get the entire mafia team pinned down D1.
It might sound like I'm putting myself down as a forum mafia player, which maybe it is. Yet it's also a realistic assessment from past town games I've played in.
I can't comment on why lol voted tutuu initially.
My vote was completely separate from lol's, and even though I said I knew it was going to tie up the votes in a 3 way, that was not my intention to do so.
The reason I voted tutuu was not because of fluff posts or anything. In fact, I liked them quite a bit. It's because some of their posts worry me as to why they worded them that way, and especially after tutuu kept going after scumbot/Richard slot (which now seems to have veered off a bit).
Examples.
- something pinged me as I was reading this waking up this morning. Like, something felt kinda off. If tutuu is reading baker town (but has the potential to be wolf), and tutuu himself is town here, why is he using 'he's not w/w with me'? Hear me out. Tutuu himself is town. Sees baker probably town, less likely to be wolf. So we are not w/w?? Doesn't sound a little off to you guys? Wouldn't you rather phrase it so it's 't/w'?
These two posts also make me suspect tutuu is further pocketing vittae (although based on vittae's posts, it's easy to townread him). This is further supplemented by the fact tutuu has now spent majority of the day pushing for scumbot/richard slots because tutuu is 'sheeping' their towncore reads, independent of their absent scumread on their slots. It feels like because Vittae is town from W!Tutuu's POV, by towncoring Vittae early, and sheeping his reads and pushing the same prospects, tutuu hopes to get townread by Vittae (which tutuu succeeded).
I explored into the idea of Vittae being a scum with tutuu and that second post i quoted was made to distance themselves a little. My early prediction/speculation is that if Vittae is scum, tutuu is scum. But if Tutuu is scum, Vittae does not have to be.
Also I still am not convinced from their response/answers to my pressure. In fact, their answers to my posts aren't really helping me with my suspicions.
My bunnies decided that peace was never an option.
I see replies to me, going to catch up with the thrrad before I respond to more stuff since I'm still 100 posts behind.
Varcron might be mafia from the simple reason I don't remember a single post they've made the entire day.
not Richard - but
1. I do feel MM has been quite consistent in his alignment purely based on my games I've had with him, and I am starting to worry about their slot.
2. If I am right and tutuu is scum (but I am open to counterarguments about this for sure), Martin is also going to worry me HARD.
3. I don't really have that much thought about Varcron at this stage yet.
btw I saw baker mention Nancy. We have Nancy here?
hmm I failed with the images.
p#223
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...724#post991724
p#238
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...739#post991739
One of the things I enjoy about FoL is I can copy/paste my snips into the thread.
But like:
We've played together on multiple occasions, I'm sure my playstyle isn't that hard to remember.
Should've spoilered that, mb.
@CRichardForumLies
I would like your input here
Baker do you have other not w/w reads with links in your sheet?
I'm absolutely against having ikarus on the nomination list for today.
Details will come later once I've finished ISOs on others but ultimately he's done several things in particular wrt solving that I don't really think are possible for him to replicate as a wolf knowing his experience level and wolf range.
To the degree that I'd probably be willing to call him my top town after maybe Baker?
My current poe/reads looks like:
scumbot5679
Marshmallow Marshall
ikarusdk
lol
tutuu
Vittae
MartinGG99
Varcron
CRichardForumLies
I could go in to details, but I think it is too early honestly. I am probably misclearing 1 in my townreads/leans and if I am wrong on more than 1 then this is a game losing PoE.
We also need to be consolidating wagons again at some point if we're going for a tied vote again, ideally just into two wagons.
In a game with three wolves, wagons with just two votes each are obviously going to be extremely prone to manipulation.
In either scenario, I'd appreciate you explaining your top 2 townreads to me.
MM's ISO was significantly worse than I remembered his posts being individually. I've got no issues with him being a wagon here.
I also hadn't realised he'd posted quite so little as he actually had.