no idea why killing arrow was harder than it needed to be
no idea why killing arrow was harder than it needed to be
also mac probably isnt the wolf, but thats a read based on reading into the night kills which I dont believe he makes
but still very wrong, which isnt really a good look for the on the other hand
Martin - why was he killed?
Loldebite - The flip we just got for Arrow confirms there's an Actress in this game (and is the last mafia), so Mafia probably sniped Deb night 1. Which makes me wonder; could the last Mafia (or any of them) have felt threatened by Deb day1? Gonna have to look into that
Powerofdeath - Powerofdeath over Ultra here is strange. At this point, Ultra was mod-confirmed, so one would think it'd make sense to just target Ultra to leave Powerofdeath as a potential miselim in the future. But I don't think this is the case. I think that if there were any scum among the three ghosts, it would've just been one of them, and Dark Magician had been eliminated the day before. Maybe they were thinking that this made Powerofdeath look really legit. But still weird to kill Ultra over PoD because of the mech clear from Martin. Maybe they also thought there was a healer or something so decided to dodge the obvious choice? Probably not. So maybe it's just because PoD was a power role? This is the simplest explanation I think so I'll stick with it.
Ultra - town mech clear, I think this was the obvious choice
I feel like there's something significant to Martin dying first that I'm missing
Okay so martin probably got killed for having post-death mech based on his role, guess he kinda outed himself and got rekt for it
Deb probably got n1 Actress sniped
PoD got got because he's a power role
and Ultra died for being too good
@Wiisp While I don't think you and mac are paired anymore at this point, I don't think these reasonings for any of the kills happening incriminate or exclude anybody from being scum.
And even if there were some reason mac wouldn't make a particular kill, that wouldn't mean his teammate wouldn't.
If you've got another interpretation for them then I'd love to talk about it
well its not lylo so their arent two wolves alive for one, and strictly speaking I think wolf!Mac always just kills DK
but like i said, there are still other things not related to night kills that make mac look bad, like being wrong on arrow.
but that also leads to, why didnt they vote me if they are a wolf with Arrow
but then u look at DK, DK wanted the order of Me -> Mac -> Arrow
gun to my head without doing any work outside what my brain remembers, its literally just DK
I mean I guess it just comes down to mac/wiisp fmpov, one of these two is the wolf.
Unless it is stellaria or MM ofc, in which case I accept defeat.
@Stellaria , I suggest looking into eod patterns around arrow lynch as well as DM and see if you can find something.
My pc is still buggered so any detailed post I make will take like an hour or more with multiple tabs which is gonna be too annoying.
I remember End of Day yesterday feeling really empty. So instincts tell me scum were already resolved to bussing Arrow? I dunno. I'll have to look at who voted
Mac certainly tried to stop both DM and Arrow kills, but idk if i want to read him as being a power wolfer, because i know as of recent they have been prett terrible in terms of finding wolves
but i think thats my poe right now, DK and Mac
MM confuses me but at this point I think they are just uninformed, honestly even if i assume they might be informed I' not even sure what their game plans have been with their votes and vote swaps.
like why go out of your way to randomly defend me and vote Arrow, when in this world, town!DK is literally burying me and then Mac? it just doesnt make sense for wolf!MM to play so suboptimally
I am not going to assume I knew arrow would flip mafia because I definitely did not, I still insist that I was looking at all three equally.
Also voting someone who isn't here and is a lhf isn't AI. Voting someone for their content is AI. And I'd like to argue that mine was towny.
Also acting like oh yeah ika tried to leave wolf arrow till last.
That is 1000% either perfect hindsight observation or TMI
but why does MM buss there??
I was clear in saying I am willing to RISK a mislynch yesterday, because fmpov then the other two remaining are wolves and town is gonna win.
And now because it wasn't a mislynch, it's easy to say I tried to leave arrow till last, which I agree because of whole achro thing. But you can't exactly blame me for the flip.
So that is the bit I buy from Wiisp, except you guys need to see the difference between a wolf me doing that and town ika doing that. I think I was clear in my approach
I still dont understand the TMI part
sorry I dont mean to be dumb here Im just trying to understand
Anyway tho I think it is simply a matter of time till town wins. We are allowed one mislynch. If everyone agrees to lynch mac here and is a mislynch, stellaria and MM decide on between ika and wiisp
the part there im lost about is why me and MM are deciding between you and wisp
like isn't it f3?
As for the Martin kill... idk, fearkill, perhaps? Or perhaps scum thought his "post-death mechanics" claim was a bait to avoid getting killed? Tbh, fearkill makes the most sense imo (and not killing someone for having post-death stuff, because that just... enables post-death stuff).
About looking for clues regarding votes on Arrow: Arrow was literally never voted before yesterday, except by Debbie on D1. Not much to be seen there. Scum were definetly happy with the LHF mislynches on D1 and D2, and either participated hard on them or just let it happen. I suspect the Banana lynch had more scum intervention than the Kuti one, considering scum didn't have to commit to the Kuti mislynch to see it happen (which doesn't help us terribly, tbh, since both Wisp and Mac were on it).
Looking at the rest, I'm actually pretty confident it's Mac now. I was way too tired when I posted at last EoD and should just have went to sleep without checking in here, because I was just saying nonsense XD. Wisp feels very towny now (which is a huge contrast to early game), while Mac just feels like he's disappeared, hoping not to make his situation worse and to let town impale itself on wrong suspicions towards other people. He's pretty much the only one not to have contributed ANYTHING and not to have showed a single ounce of solviness towards the lategame, while everyone was going in posting detailed hypotheses and all.
If Mac flips town, I will be quite surprised and lost, tbh.
there is absolutely no reason to lock lynches to anyone in town!Mac worlds, since MM is still pretty weird tonally
and I still dont particularly understand how they progressed to me being town, so while I dont see why MM would buss, i can't pretend that they still arent wolfy and confusing
the only thing I will agree on is that Stellar is town
Either MM or stellaria are getting nkd if it is wiisp and we lynch mac here.
And another mylo
fmpov it's one of Wisp or Mac. Eh I wasn't impressed with Wisp yesterday but I feel like this wisp stepped up their game
Are we all in agreement to just lim mac?
Alright. I'll look into MM, but I'm saying that MM and Stellaria could not be more towny in my world.
Wait for mac at least.
wasnt planning on it
If only mac was here to explain his day 4. Because that just fucked my world view of him.
I was going to say he was probably hoping to save Arrow by getting Wisp lynched first, but it could also be genuine, and I'm realizing this basically means nothing because you can see it both ways with pretty much equal probability