S-FM 352: ★ Silent Night 2 ★

[MartinGG99]

I may have pushed my sleep/circadian rhythm too far and overslept a fair bit and ended up arriving here an hour or two later than planned.

I'm here now and reading up. May do a bit of skimming as I'm like 250ish posts behind and we only got slightly more than 2 hours left.

[macdougall]

I've played offsite. I've played on MU, mafiascum, and a few other smaller sites

"You guys" is FM players in general

It's fine I understand the logic and I know what I said is fakeable. I play a probability oriented game though and know that wolves who need to live don't claim VT but knowing that makes it something I could fake. I get where you're coming from.

Who are you townreading?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Pocket successful

What?

Can you [Wisp] please explain why you've been tunneling me for nearly all of day 1?

Umm... Wisp has not been tunneling you for all of D1, what the hell lol

FYI I'm not claiming today. I know that it upsets people on a huge level that they can't read me cause I refuse to conform to the standard of Mafia they're used to. It's been upsetting people since the dawn of time

I will lose literally no sleep if I'm mislunched day 1 and yinz can live with the consequences and can continue to have fun being silly gamebots ;)

I don't think anyone has demanded a claim from you anyway? You are free to live as you so desire, as long as you do contribute at some point
and if you just don't ever contribute in any way, then I'm not sure why you'd be signing up at all anyway, so we shall see lol

[TheBananaBaroness]

Umm... Wisp has not been tunneling you for all of D1, what the hell lol


I don't think anyone has demanded a claim from you anyway? You are free to live as you so desire, as long as you do contribute at some point
and if you just don't ever contribute in any way, then I'm not sure why you'd be signing up at all anyway, so we shall see lol

Have you EVER seen me go an entire game without trying mallow? What's your aim here? "As long as you contribute at some point" like we've played tons together.

And I'm tied for leading train rn so I'm letting everyone know that if they want me to claim and shift the vote somewhere else at EOD as is tradition here, that's not happening. I'll go down before I claim today.

[Ultra]

Whack stack

[powerofdeath]

Have you EVER seen me go an entire game without trying mallow? What's your aim here? "As long as you contribute at some point" like we've played tons together.

And I'm tied for leading train rn so I'm letting everyone know that if they want me to claim and shift the vote somewhere else at EOD as is tradition here, that's not happening. I'll go down before I claim today.

Just letting you know its possible that we wont see a flip ever. It was never specified, but having 3 roles related to mediums/deaths is making it sounds more likely that the game is flipless. Whoever we lynch today, we may never know if they were town or not.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'm sticking my vote on Dark Magician.

banana feel too wolfy to be a wolf, and I think our read on banana will be more clear later on, kinda a bad vote imo

kutipz isnt a good vote either. He can only give each items ONCE and its just one of three options: doc, vig, and self suicide.

I am okay with mac vote, still prefer Dark Magician. Arrow yeet is meh, and if we have to yeet someone, why not just yeet the hard claimed neutral. Its probably a better yeet over Arrow

I like this post, and am saving it for later reference when we have flips. I encourage you all to do the same.

Why DM over Mac, btw?

I never lied tho, BananaCucho, Toadette and Toad all exist and they're posting from this account sooooooo

...that is unfortunately technically correct
schizophrenia is very useful

[TheBananaBaroness]

Just letting you know its possible that we wont see a flip ever. It was never specified, but having 3 roles related to mediums/deaths is making it sounds more likely that the game is flipless. Whoever we lynch today, we may never know if they were town or not.

Appreciate the heads up, home slice

[Ultra]

How are we reading stella

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Have you EVER seen me go an entire game without trying mallow? What's your aim here? "As long as you contribute at some point" like we've played tons together.

And I'm tied for leading train rn so I'm letting everyone know that if they want me to claim and shift the vote somewhere else at EOD as is tradition here, that's not happening. I'll go down before I claim today.

I'm not afraid, hence why I'm not advocating for your lynch today lol, but I also wished to make my point clear. What, would you rather have me get jumped on by good-willed townies who would think I am giving you a full free pass for no reason whatsoever? Tsk tsk tsk.

Just letting you know its possible that we wont see a flip ever. It was never specified, but having 3 roles related to mediums/deaths is making it sounds more likely that the game is flipless. Whoever we lynch today, we may never know if they were town or not.

Flipless without forewarning is borderline bastard. I doubt it.

[powerofdeath]

I like this post, and am saving it for later reference when we have flips. I encourage you all to do the same.

Why DM over Mac, btw?


...that is unfortunately technically correct
schizophrenia is very useful

Mac is more of a null/scum lean. DM over mac because my read on Dm is stronger than Mac. I havent really looked into Mac too much

[Arrow]

I don't know what to say. When I have something to say it usually already got posted and I know from prior FMs that stating something someone else said is "Scummy".

[TheBananaBaroness]

I'm not afraid, hence why I'm not advocating for your lynch today lol, but I also wished to make my point clear. What, would you rather have me get jumped on by good-willed townies who would think I am giving you a full free pass for no reason whatsoever? Tsk tsk tsk.


Flipless without forewarning is borderline bastard. I doubt it.

IDK I feel like you're a pretty good mafia player and shouldn't be afraid of getting jumped on for stating your opinion

[TheBananaBaroness]

I refuse to vote Arrow today. Professional courtesy

[macdougall]

Who Posted?
Posts 143 Kutiplz
Posts 122 Dark Magician
Posts 100 Wiisp
Posts 87 TheBananaBaroness
Posts 85 Loldebite
Posts 83 Achro
Posts 81 macdougall
Posts 75 Stellaria
Posts 65 Ultra
Posts 64 ikarusdk
Posts 54 Marshmallow Marshall
Posts 36 MartinGG99
Posts 29 powerofdeath
Posts 15 Arrow

Incase people didnt know about this feature. It can be found on the original post of this thread.

why did you post this? like what prompted you to look for it and share it? is there an insight here you found interesting?

[macdougall]

Umm... Wisp has not been tunneling you for all of D1, what the hell lol


I don't think anyone has demanded a claim from you anyway? You are free to live as you so desire, as long as you do contribute at some point
and if you just don't ever contribute in any way, then I'm not sure why you'd be signing up at all anyway, so we shall see lol

Wiisp has been scumreading me for as long as my memory of this game affords me and has

a) asked me no questions
b) stated no real reasons

I simply want to know the reasons. That's fair is it not?

[powerofdeath]

I don't know what to say. When I have something to say it usually already got posted and I know from prior FMs that stating something someone else said is "Scummy".

What are you thoughts about the current wagons?

Currently the top contenders of being lynched (1 hour left) are banana/mac, and there are Dark Magician, and Kutiplz trailing as well

[powerofdeath]

why did you post this? like what prompted you to look for it and share it? is there an insight here you found interesting?

I was just looking at my own post count and realized i was one of the low posters so I'm just trying to post more.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

How are we reading stella

They exist. That's about it.

- Didn't really read the setup
- Fell for Banana's "hydra" stuff super hard
- No memorable takes
- Is just hating Banana for the hydra stuff (which is fairly reasonable lol, but I really think it was just a joke, and regardless of banana's alignment, it's funny XD)

/shrug. That is going to be a harder slot to solve.

[macdougall]

How are we reading stella

I am townreading them. I think they have a sense of curiosity in their posts, I think they have had some really wtf type takes but they are towny wtf type takes.

[macdougall]

I was just looking at my own post count and realized i was one of the low posters so I'm just trying to post more.

posting for the sake of not being a low poster it isn't exactly towny

[powerofdeath]

posting for the sake of not being a low poster it isn't exactly towny

never said it wasnt

[macdougall]

I refuse to vote Arrow today. Professional courtesy

This feels like a wise move. They feel like a viable miselim more than they feel like a wolf.

[macdougall]

never said it wasnt

Didn't say you said it was.

[powerofdeath]

Didn't say you said it was.

didnt say you said it wasnt either

[TheBananaBaroness]

This feels like a wise move. They feel like a viable miselim more than they feel like a wolf.

Plus it helps to have friends in high places

[macdougall]

Banana and Arrow feel town.

Marshall and PoD don't seem w/w but they're both kinda weird.

DM feels like a town via their entitlement ie. they post in a way in which they feel like they are entitled to being townread which is hard to fake. Banana similar.

Arrow just feels like a lost town and I expect the mafia to try to miselim them when they run out of other options.

[macdougall]

didnt say you said it wasnt either

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

[powerofdeath]

How are we reading stella

Honestly I am scumleaning them. I think Stellar is kinda exaggerating a bit about the way they act not knowing Banana wasnt a hydra.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Mac is more of a null/scum lean. DM over mac because my read on Dm is stronger than Mac. I havent really looked into Mac too much

"I prefer to lynch DM because he's scummier"
um ok, thank you very much i guess

...do you have details to share on the matter?

I don't know what to say. When I have something to say it usually already got posted and I know from prior FMs that stating something someone else said is "Scummy".

Well, do share your thoughts on the game! Reads on overlooked people, your twist on the hot takes going around, your thoughts about Banana's hydra stuff, etc. We're not in your mind, after all.

IDK I feel like you're a pretty good mafia player and shouldn't be afraid of getting jumped on for stating your opinion

well yes but actually no xD

[macdougall]

Thoughts on Martin and Debite from the crowd?

[macdougall]

Who is the person here with the most meta on the SC2 mafia regs? I need to jam with them.

[TheBananaBaroness]

Who is the person here with the most meta on the SC2 mafia regs? I need to jam with them.

Ew meta talk, gross

[powerofdeath]

How do we feel about yeeting Achro. No offense but I do fear that Banana is a miselim, and my read on Mac isnt that strong enough to warrant me voting them out. We got like 50 minutes left.

-vote Achro

[TheBananaBaroness]

How do we feel about yeeting Achro. No offense but I do fear that Banana is a miselim, and my read on Mac isnt that strong enough to warrant me voting them out. We got like 50 minutes left.

-vote Achro

I don't know which player this is, what's their avatar?

[powerofdeath]

Thoughts on Martin and Debite from the crowd?

Martin have a lot of similar view as I do, so I'm unsure if hes just pocketing me or hes just very towny.

Deb - Havent rly done much to stick out so could be flying under the radar.

[powerofdeath]

I don't know which player this is, what's their avatar?

This player hard claimed neutral day 1

[Arrow]

I guess my gut is that assuming a 'carefully balanced' setup, we have three medium claims from Martin and DM and PoD. We also have gift giver from Kuti.

Achro has claimed both Serial Killer and "non-killing neutral with a variety of win conditions" in different posts, which feels jestery.

Frinckles likes the Caroler role, so I feel that's probably mixed in somewhere.

THis is too many power claims, to me, for a game that's 'carefully balanced'.

[Ultra]

How do we feel about yeeting Achro. No offense but I do fear that Banana is a miselim, and my read on Mac isnt that strong enough to warrant me voting them out. We got like 50 minutes left.

-vote Achro

Down for this

-vote Achro

[TheBananaBaroness]

This player hard claimed neutral day 1

Lmao sounds like a fantastic option tbh

[TheBananaBaroness]

Wait was that the joke role claim

[TheBananaBaroness]

There's so many claims already I have no idea whats legit and what's not. I think I've claimed like 3 different things myself

[powerofdeath]

Wait was that the joke role claim

no he legit claimed a neutral with 5 different win cons. Hes trying to convince town to give him 2 blessings so he can meet one of his win con so he can exit the game

[TheBananaBaroness]

Wait we have 40 minutes left time to play seriously

*Puts on srs business hat to complement the four thousand dollar banana suit*

[Ultra]

Wait we have 40 minutes left time to play seriously

*Puts on srs business hat to complement the four thousand dollar banana suit*

Yeah just yeet the indi

[TheBananaBaroness]

no he legit claimed a neutral with 5 different win cons. Hes trying to convince town to give him 2 blessings so he can meet one of his win con so he can exit the game

Well I'd be fine with offing that. If people are scared of jester I'll hammer

[Frinckles]

The day ends at 8:00pm CST.

[powerofdeath]

oh lmao we got 1.5 hours then

[TheBananaBaroness]

Well then

*Peels banana suit off*

[Wiisp]

-vote dark magician