S-FM 351: Mini Fooling Party

[MartinGG99]

MINI FOOLING PARTY
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Host ISO	Player	Role (time of death)
ISO	Flea The Magician	Citizen (d2 modkill)
ISO	furitiveglance Auwt
ISO	Gikkle
ISO	ikarusdk	Citizen (n1)
ISO	Innovation	Dragon Head (EoD3)
ISO	Marshmallow Marshall	Dragon Head (EoD2)
ISO	powerofdeath	Bus Driver (n2)
ISO	scumbot5679
ISO	TheBananaBaroness Bakermir
ISO	The Scarlet Letters	Citizen (EoD1)

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[MartinGG99]

6 votes to hammer.


My apologies for being late. My alarm was off by a day, and it didn't help that I was distracted playing FM in another community. My bad, and if there's ever any remotely suspected issue feel free to DM me.

EoD will be 1 hour later as a result of this delay by me, but all future EoDs will be at the originally intended 8 pm EST.


@The Scarlet Letters
@powerofdeath
@Marshmallow Marshall
@furtiveglance
@ikarusdk
@scumbot5679
@Innovation
@TheBananaBaroness
@Gikkle
@Flea the Magician

[Marshmallow Marshall]

FIRST

-vote TheBananaBaroness

for changing name >=[

[powerofdeath]

So I was skimming thru the setup, seems like our prio is to get rid of Triad Hidden before they could start using their rolecard, getting rid of Dragon Head also works since they just become Dragon Head and they lose their rolecard. Also getting rid of Corrupted Assessor on Day 1 is also nice before they could activate the swap.

All town should make sure to put in your name in your lastwill so town know your flip is 100% legit.

[ikarusdk]

Present!

-vote Flea the Magician

[powerofdeath]

-vote Ikarusdk

this is mafia

[scumbot5679]

anyone that is forced to wear an A for adultery isn't a very good person and thus scum.

-vote The Scarlet Letters

[Innovation]

Hey everyone, excited to play my first mafia game with you guys!

[ikarusdk]

-vote Ikarusdk

this is mafia

What makes you so certain? Also there is no mafia. Only the triad!

[ikarusdk]

Hey everyone, excited to play my first mafia game with you guys!

Hello welcome hope you enjoy your stay

[ikarusdk]

So I was skimming thru the setup, seems like our prio is to get rid of Triad Hidden before they could start using their rolecard, getting rid of Dragon Head also works since they just become Dragon Head and they lose their rolecard. Also getting rid of Corrupted Assessor on Day 1 is also nice before they could activate the swap.

All town should make sure to put in your name in your lastwill so town know your flip is 100% legit.

Not sure I feel great about this.

On the surface, it is a good tip for our overall direction for yhe game.

But I can't help feeling a bit wary about this because 1. This info is a bit redundant because it isn't any new helpful info. 2. I believe we should aim to get rid of triad assessor first to avoid getting our last wills swapped, and 3. I don't believe you only just skimmed through thr set up.

Overall feels like a faked effort to appear helpful.

[ikarusdk]

I got my eyes on you!

[scumbot5679]

it's possible but I actually signed up without reading that lol.

[The Scarlet Letters]

anyone that is forced to wear an A for adultery isn't a very good person and thus scum.

-vote The Scarlet Letters

https://youtu.be/Jne9t8sHpUc

[The Scarlet Letters]

So I was skimming thru the setup, seems like our prio is to get rid of Triad Hidden before they could start using their rolecard, getting rid of Dragon Head also works since they just become Dragon Head and they lose their rolecard. Also getting rid of Corrupted Assessor on Day 1 is also nice before they could activate the swap.

All town should make sure to put in your name in your lastwill so town know your flip is 100% legit.

???

@MartinGG99 , this was mentioned last time but can you explain the last will thing?

[Gikkle]

Yo

Not sure I feel great about this.

On the surface, it is a good tip for our overall direction for yhe game.

But I can't help feeling a bit wary about this because 1. This info is a bit redundant because it isn't any new helpful info. 2. I believe we should aim to get rid of triad assessor first to avoid getting our last wills swapped, and 3. I don't believe you only just skimmed through thr set up.

Overall feels like a faked effort to appear helpful.

that's an incredibly quick accusation lol

[Gikkle]

FIRST

-vote TheBananaBaroness

for changing name >=[

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

[The Scarlet Letters]

Nice, back at it again.

Players are always scum after modding a game.

-vote Power of Death

~Italiano

[ikarusdk]

Yo



that's an incredibly quick accusation lol

It's more like a feeling, rather than anything solid so i wouldn't say it's an accusation

[Marshmallow Marshall]

So I was skimming thru the setup, seems like our prio is to get rid of Triad Hidden before they could start using their rolecard, getting rid of Dragon Head also works since they just become Dragon Head and they lose their rolecard. Also getting rid of Corrupted Assessor on Day 1 is also nice before they could activate the swap.

All town should make sure to put in your name in your lastwill so town know your flip is 100% legit.

Our priority is to get rid of the three triad members.



lol. Jokes aside, what's the point of this post, exactly? The last line is very good and valid, but the meat of the post is a nothingburger, as deathworlds would put it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Not sure I feel great about this.

On the surface, it is a good tip for our overall direction for yhe game.

But I can't help feeling a bit wary about this because 1. This info is a bit redundant because it isn't any new helpful info. 2. I believe we should aim to get rid of triad assessor first to avoid getting our last wills swapped, and 3. I don't believe you only just skimmed through thr set up.

Overall feels like a faked effort to appear helpful.

Uhm... no, it isn't? He's literally saying we should lynch the triad, which is not exactly revolutionary xD. It certainly isn't a good tip indicating any direction whatsoever. Plus, you're saying more or less this in point #1 (no new info), which contradicts the "on the surface" part. So... while I am looking at POD sideways with evil eyes , I feel like the "on the surface" sentence is only there to act as some kind of coating to your point, a coating that indicates you are insecure - perhaps because this is your first scum game (correct me if I'm wrong, my FM memory is horrible, but I think you've never been scum before).

-vote ikarusdk

sorry banana, duty calls me, i cannot vote you just yet

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yo

that's an incredibly quick accusation lol

Indeed, which makes for an incredibly interesting game ^^

[ikarusdk]

Uhm... no, it isn't? He's literally saying we should lynch the triad, which is not exactly revolutionary xD. It certainly isn't a good tip indicating any direction whatsoever. Plus, you're saying more or less this in point #1 (no new info), which contradicts the "on the surface" part. So... while I am looking at POD sideways with evil eyes , I feel like the "on the surface" sentence is only there to act as some kind of coating to your point, a coating that indicates you are insecure - perhaps because this is your first scum game (correct me if I'm wrong, my FM memory is horrible, but I think you've never been scum before).

-vote ikarusdk

sorry banana, duty calls me, i cannot vote you just yet

My last two games were scum games (KRC and Chaotic Executioner), however, in this one I am not

[MartinGG99]

???

@MartinGG99 , this was mentioned last time but can you explain the last will thing?

Since this is a general question about the setup regarding a mechanic not common in other communities, I am answering this publicly. Future questions should be sent to me privately in some capacity, otherwise they may not be answered by me.

Last Wills are a message you give to me to be displayed upon your death. There is generally no limit to them unless your will is either absurdly long or submitted after your death. In the event that your role/alignment/last-will flip is switched with another player's flip by the Corrupted Assessor, neither player will be able to update their last will after one of the two (who had their flips switched) die. Otherwise we'd have people writing from the grave, and people writing other people's last wills after their death. Spoooooky!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

My last two games were scum games (KRC and Chaotic Executioner), however, in this one I am not

Anon game with tons of people and a game I didn't partake in... nothing to help my mafialzheimer's xD. As for your alignment, I guess we shall see, as I unfortunately cannot divine it from "in this one I am not". In the meantime, my vote is in a cozy place and doesn't want to move.

[Flea the Magician]

Present!

-vote Flea the Magician

If you can be present and get a present, if you get past and be past, why cant you be or get future?

-vote ikarusdk

[ikarusdk]

If you can be present and get a present, if you get past and be past, why cant you be or get future?

-vote ikarusdk

I don't know why you can't be or get future, but I know one thing. Flea is a musician and not a magician. Guys this guy is trying to deceive us!

[Innovation]

Hey guys, since its my first game I thoiught it was pretty uncommon to get tells so early on

[powerofdeath]

What makes you so certain? Also there is no mafia. Only the triad!

I'll use mafia and triad interchangeablely in this game, if anybody have a problem with this, sucks to be you.

[powerofdeath]

Hey guys, since its my first game I thoiught it was pretty uncommon to get tells so early on

it is, we are kinda at "RVS stage" which is known as random voting stage where people kinda just troll and vote. Kinda like in arcade format where people go "red/1 is always mafia" on first voting day.

[The Scarlet Letters]

-vote Ikarusdk

this is mafia

RVS? Or serious?

[The Scarlet Letters]

So the bad guys don’t know each other huh? So we are gonna see some fake attempts to “scum hunt”, which we’ll be keeping an eye on.

~Italiano

[The Scarlet Letters]

Not sure I feel great about this.

On the surface, it is a good tip for our overall direction for yhe game.

But I can't help feeling a bit wary about this because 1. This info is a bit redundant because it isn't any new helpful info. 2. I believe we should aim to get rid of triad assessor first to avoid getting our last wills swapped, and 3. I don't believe you only just skimmed through thr set up.

Overall feels like a faked effort to appear helpful.

Ironically this feels like a faked attempt to appear townie.

~Italiano

[The Scarlet Letters]

BTW it’ll be easier to not have to type out my name everytime, so I’ll hit ‘em with the single letter.

~I

[Innovation]

Woah! Hope you enjoy my stay??? Im worried now haha

[Gikkle]

So the bad guys don’t know each other huh? So we are gonna see some fake attempts to “scum hunt”, which we’ll be keeping an eye on.

~Italiano

Weird that you say that since it's sort of the opposite.

Much like games with multiple scum factions and neutrals, Triads not knowing each other is just gonna make this harder for us. Since Triads don't have significant TMI other than obviously knowing they themselves are scum, their scum hunting would be almost completely genuine since they are also trying to find their buddies. The only thing that would really remain the same as a normal game is obviously agenda & an increased desire to survive.

Which means that it's gonna be harder than normal to get a scum flip day 1, but certainly not impossible. Starting at 7v3 makes skipping the vote more of an option since a misvote just leads to MYLO anyways (and we'd have to skip on MYLO), but that could still be a bad option if we end up having a sniper.

[Gikkle]

Weird that you say that since it's sort of the opposite.

Much like games with multiple scum factions and neutrals, Triads not knowing each other is just gonna make this harder for us. Since Triads don't have significant TMI other than obviously knowing they themselves are scum, their scum hunting would be almost completely genuine since they are also trying to find their buddies. The only thing that would really remain the same as a normal game is obviously agenda & an increased desire to survive.

Which means that it's gonna be harder than normal to get a scum flip day 1, but certainly not impossible. Starting at 7v3 makes skipping the vote more of an option since a misvote just leads to MYLO anyways (and we'd have to skip on MYLO), but that could still be a bad option if we end up having a sniper.

Weird but not really indicative of Scarlet's alignment imo

can't really say anything that's been posted has been particularly AI rn. Maybe Ikarus very slight TR for a reason that I'll explain later.

[scumbot5679]

Hey guys, since its my first game I thoiught it was pretty uncommon to get tells so early on

Maybe I'm just dumb but I don't really understand this post. Are you saying that you have tells/reads this early on, if so you should share with this class. Otherwise I don't really understand what you are saying with this post.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hey guys, since its my first game I thoiught it was pretty uncommon to get tells so early on

Hey there! What's your background in terms of mafia, if I may ask? As POD said, we're in random voting stage right now (RVS), aiming to get some information. That being said, this RVS is a little more serious than usual, considering the Ikarus stuff gives us something to ponder on right off the bat.

Ironically this feels like a faked attempt to appear townie.

~Italiano

Right, Mr. Point-Out - and what are your conclusions, where is your follow-up?

[The Scarlet Letters]

Weird that you say that since it's sort of the opposite.

Much like games with multiple scum factions and neutrals, Triads not knowing each other is just gonna make this harder for us. Since Triads don't have significant TMI other than obviously knowing they themselves are scum, their scum hunting would be almost completely genuine since they are also trying to find their buddies. The only thing that would really remain the same as a normal game is obviously agenda & an increased desire to survive.

Which means that it's gonna be harder than normal to get a scum flip day 1, but certainly not impossible. Starting at 7v3 makes skipping the vote more of an option since a misvote just leads to MYLO anyways (and we'd have to skip on MYLO), but that could still be a bad option if we end up having a sniper.

Yes and no. I think because the triad don’t wanna actually wanna lim their buddies I think eventually, given that it’s still early, there will be pushes under the guise of “I think this person is mafia” knowing full well they don’t really wanna potentially lim their budfmdy. I think there will be stuff thrown around but when it really comes down to it, I believe members of the triad are gonna be hemming and hawing.

If we do get mafia today I believe it’ll be a town effort and the triad really don’t have a way to control things which is good because they are like us uninformed except knowing their own role. I said what I said because Nancy and I will eventually be able to see right through whatever fake attempt eventually comes.

~I

[The Scarlet Letters]

Right, Mr. Point-Out - and what are your conclusions, where is your follow-up?

I don’t have a conclusion just yet. I thought it was ironic and said as much.

~I

[The Scarlet Letters]

Since Triads don't have significant TMI other than obviously knowing they themselves are scum, their scum hunting would be almost completely genuine since they are also trying to find their buddies.

I think I already kinda implied it in my post but wanted to go further. Their scumhunting would not be for linking purposes but for protection purposes. So our goals wouldn’t be the same as the triad as we are trying to kill said triad members while they are trying to find who NOT to kill.

[The Scarlet Letters]

*limming not linking. Ugh. Phone posting.

~I

[scumbot5679]

*limming not linking. Ugh. Scum posting.

~I

FITY!

[ikarusdk]

I think I already kinda implied it in my post but wanted to go further. Their scumhunting would not be for linking purposes but for protection purposes. So our goals wouldn’t be the same as the triad as we are trying to kill said triad members while they are trying to find who NOT to kill.

I have a significant TMI only known to myself. This means my agenda is one of those things.

[ikarusdk]

I have a significant TMI only known to myself. This means my agenda is one of those things.

Everyone*

Duh!

[ikarusdk]

Maybe I'm just dumb but I don't really understand this post. Are you saying that you have tells/reads this early on, if so you should share with this class. Otherwise I don't really understand what you are saying with this post.

I think he wasn't sure why we were voting? That is how I understood his post

[ikarusdk]

Also please forgive me if I get your pronouns wrong. I know in this woke age, getting it wrong is a fast way to get societal persecution

[ikarusdk]

Woah! Hope you enjoy my stay??? Im worried now haha

Not to worry. I will shield you.

[ikarusdk]

So Nancy is hydra with Italiano correct? And scarlet letter is Italiano or two separate people?

And innovation is hydra with renegade correct?

Do hydras/mentors have direct influence in the game?