From my POV you're biased toward NKing those that you fear, which can't be people you do not know. Which is why I think Italiano dying is a slight bump in odds for those that knew him (AFAIK that's you & Gikkle) to be scum. Obviously WIFOM applies so it is very slim, but I do think it's not null.
That's kind of the same reason I'm surprised Auwt got a role, but maybe I'm vastly overestimating auwt's capabilities as a player (I vastly doubt that I do).
I'm probably a TERRIBLE scum player tho, because I've never played a single FM game as scum
Idk that first assumption that no mafia dies looks like a REAL stretch to me, it shouldn't happen, should it ? I mean isn't it a reasonable assumption that some mafia will die ?
Besides, despite not earning one more day, we would have more information to work with, which certainly can't hurt. All in all, all you've said is that getting CE out is not something that's mandatory to seek, but still definitely something good for town. Not even mentioning that Mafia killing CE is probably game over.
I'm on again. I'm starting to think catching up with what I missed previous days isn't worth it; I think what I've got so far is sufficient.
I'm fully mind melding with deb right now so yeah if Gikkle is really the carol target then it's gotta be Ikarus. Also if he is, then, wtf? Probably scum trying to cover for scum.
Is there anything I'm missing?
Well I know renegade at least was quite surprised to learn that I was Blobs
I didnt realize you were blobs until the conversation we had about the neighborhood, at that point I knew it was you lol
Okay but I really need to stop chain responding like that I hadn't realized I was filling up whole pages all by myself, that's obnoxious af
I for one had a blast seeing you tear through Ikarus lmfao
cuz scum would've made their mind by night in their chat, so it's increadibly more likely that scum would claim caroling as their first post.
The one opposite argument is if that's a reaction to no one telling anyone about the carolling, but that'd be a bit risky with Buster not having chimed in yet.
@powerofdeath Do scum share a day AND a night chat or only a night chat ?
In the rolecard.Vanilla Mafia - You share day and night chat with your fellow members of the Mafia. Mafia are forced to choose to send 1 person to perform a Factional Night Kill each night starting Night 2. You may receive an additional rolecard from Chaotic Executioner on start of Day 2, this will not affect your alignment or win condition. You may perform your new rolecard and be sent to perform the factional kill on the same night.
I'm confused as fuck right now
Like I just thought of something and I, wait hold on
I need Gikkle here
Oh god this is awfully complicated lemme gather my thoughts
I'm trying to think of a scenario where both Gikkle and Frinckles are good
Well actually 2 is not many LOL
Okay that thought aged badly
I don't know. It's hard to imagine Gikkle lying about getting carol results. Just last game I missed the infinity mirror results when I started day but ended up clearing witch for it. But I also recognize that it could be faked. Just weird.
But I also have a hard time believing Frinckles would just lie about being Caroler like that. I dont think scum ever makes a play there. Like, yeah, could just be scum covering for scum. That's dumb tho since it outs two scum. But what if it's not that? Does Frinckles know something?
oh wait I forgot there was a bus driver
Wait hold on that changes a lot for me
say Bus Driver swapped Ikarus and Gikkle, then. Wouldn't that affect who Ikarus jails? or am I dumb
wait no that's stupid Im stupid
Should a town Witch claim?
or bus driver
I think Town Witch or Bus Driver should just claim since their actions can really fuck up town PRs.
If it's a mafia witch, then that means they know Frinckles is Caroler
wait why THE FUCK would you claim Frinckles? wtf????
Doing my best rn not to be agitated at stellaria rn.
Idk what is going on anymore. I am confused.
But I've claimed a jailor. There cannot be a CC here. I jailed Martin. I received no other feedback other than my jail. These are facts.
If Frinckles is telling the truth and I don't see why he's pull a thunderdome here if he wasn't, and he caroled me, and in the absence of redirection, he caroled me.
But as PoD verifed, if I indeed received Carol from Frinckles, having no feedback about it makes sense.
I'm not even saying you're not Jailor Ikarus. So either you convince me that it's deb (good LUCK) or my vote is staying
I see many ways this day could be happening, most of which (in)appropriately paranoiac.
1) Gikkle is Town V, Frinckles is Town C, and we have either a bus, a witch or an illusionist;
2) Gikkle is Scum whatever, Finckles is Town C and Gikkle tried a gambit;
3) Gikkle is Town V, Frinckles is Scum C and is lying about NOT visiting Gikkle for an easy lynch;
4) Gikkle is Town V, Frinckles is Scum whatever and is lying about caroler to make everything go to shit;
5) Gikkle is Town V, Frinckles is Town whatever and is lying about being Caroler to cover for him and is planning on "changing his mind" and fleshwagoning onto one of us in the carol later on;
6) Gikkle is Scum V, Frinckles is Scum whatever and they are lying to try to lure the Caroler out.
Of these 2) and 6) seem like the least likely, because I simply don't think either gambit is worth and I don't see either player as particularly fond of HIGH risk plays.
Which makes me want to consider that Gikkle is town for the time being. Which implies the carol is real. Which implies that I've been betrayed by either Stellaria or Ika. Life fucking sucks.