yoshida actually has a sensible out. you don't.-vote renegadeand honestly in the weird chance we're town together, im tired of how hedgy you are over the simplest of fucking things.
yoshida actually has a sensible out. you don't.-vote renegadeand honestly in the weird chance we're town together, im tired of how hedgy you are over the simplest of fucking things.
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> my defense today
Okay Renegade. How do you expect me to defend myself? Put yourself in my shoes. You get put in a carol with someone you hard scumread, campaign against him, nobody gives a fuck, then come find out that Gikkle was Chaotic Exe. Was he lying about people's roles? Probably not. Was he lying about the carol results? Probably.
But let's imagine that Gikkle was entirely truthful, because you and everyone else it seems are incapable of ever considering any other possibility. So the first carol is supposedly legit. Obviously it's not Deb. I've been on Ikarus since before the Carol even happened. I've marked all of my thoughts on him and showed my progression and STILL not a single person voted for him when I did. Not a single one of you are capable of looking at any slot other than me, and clearly it didn't start with our second carol!
Just because I'm ON both carols (the first of which is probably not even real) doesn't even mean I'm scum and Im tired of you people treating it like a red check! Ren, why don't you actually consider the other people on the carol? You're hard tunneled on me and you refuse to even acknowledge anyone else. When I flip green, suddenly you're in a lot of trouble!
inb4 "but there's nothing to read in either of Varcron or Zenon, how do you expect me to look at anyone but you Stellaria?"
They are floundering. Frinckles may be misguided I don't know. But Yoshida and Stellaria are scum 100%
@ikarusdk @Loldebite
We can vote yoshida if it makes the most sense to take gunsmith out of the game.
Not sure why he didn't give a scum mate the gun though and that is what is giving me pause. But he did maybe plan to get me to shoot frinckles.
Why don't you share with the thread Renegade? You've been shading for quite a long while now. Surely your pretty picture must be almost complete, right?
Actually, yoshida makes the most sense.
-vote yoshida
-vote Stellaria
Note that this is responding to a large post made ~200 posts and 24 hours ago.
By virtue of your two above quotes, you're suggesting a Loldebite/Nancy/Yoshida team.
I don't think Loldebite/Nancy exists as teammates in a world where Yoshida is also scum, based on his seeming TMI that not only that bomb existed but also the fact that their play (if scum) indicates that they knew Frinckles was exactly that Bomb and not Caroler.
I think I'm one of the biggest believers in explicitly town-reading Loldebite in this game in the current state, so I'm going to assume you in part were referring to me.
I don't think anyone is clear in any shape or manner what-so-ever except for when we are we confirming what things have happened
everything else is just me making reads which take their play (mech or not) into account, some of which I am more convinced by my analysis of the mech play than my analysis of their non-mech play and vice versa
Honestly, I kinda don't understand the fuss about this. Not that I don't see your reasons, but rather the whole issue that you seem to be concerned about (where people presume Frinckles/Yoshida to be mafia and not Loldebite) likely does not persist if either of Frinckles or Yoshida flips town. A large part of consensus world-view I think tends to fall apart or come under question if that happens. I don't think it will though.
Also my frank opinion is that you're likely over-thinking Frinckles. I've had a few games where I've had to over-think about a player and their plays and I've found that trying to over-think someone's play (in order to find any justifiable explanation) doesn't consistently yield any useful and reliable determinations. If I did believe there was even a chance of over-thinking improving my play, I wouldn't have tried limiting it in this game. I just have a terrible habit of reaching for it to try and solve things which I am incapable of solving at a high-depth level, as if that would somehow improve my capability.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
-vote yoshida
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@Frinckles Why should I vote for Yoshida?
This is a great though tbh
Let's say frinckles flips mafia, yoshida is mafia, and 3rd mafia is jailed. Either yoshida gives the gun to a town, or he gives it to the town which he would be killing. In the even we don't get a gun it would make things quite likely that Yoshida is lying about being town, especially if the person he gives a gun to is someone who forseeable is likely to die for X or Y reason.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
well. probably because im not a wolf
and if i can convince the town im not a wolf
they default to you
and if you are not a wolf
see where im going with this?
but more importantly than that, you haven't done jackshit this entire game by dude. so either you >randwolf or you just chose to be lazy and im kind of leaning towards the former.
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so, coming after ME when you should realize the entire town will shit on you is not a winning strategy if you're a wolf.
in the off chance you're town, you gotta do more than that. I already did the ground work. if you need the ground work, ask.
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It also explains why suddenly today (in which the world is any world involving Frinckles/Yoshida) decided Yoshida should be eliminated. So they can remove the risk of town getting a gun, as presently if the mafia are going to lose players then Yoshida is a living liability.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
i do like the resistance to the yoshida wagon tho
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dont get me wrong. this town is stupid as hell.
but there is definitely a case for you to die and it's not like KRC. this is purely circumstantial shit wherein you should probably die.
so if the question is you v yoshida, i'd give you one more day to live over yoshida.
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A.K.A "That One Idiot"
You know what, fuck it. At least you'll interact with me. Yeah I'm in the shithole with you. I can't trust you as far as I can throw you. Even if you flip green, everyone's going to vote for me anyway.
Doesn't matter what I do at this point. Half the thread isn't going to care if I vote for you or if I vote for Yoshida or deb or nancy or whoever the fuck. You have until I log off to convince me
yeah well we're in the shithole together for two very different reasons
me (frinckles) the person talking actually helped solve the game
you (stellaria) exists? possibly. we're not sure.
also you were in a carol like twice. even if it was fake you prob deserve a rope here.
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why the fuck doesn't martin talk to me?
martin how was your day?
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if you don't know what i mean, just ask. I respect you stellaria.
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-vote YOSHIDA
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wtf are you doing?!?!
SO NOW YOURE STUNTING ON ME, OKAY
just gonna take me on down with you huh??
you can use this website https://www.lennyfac.es/
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You're really pissing me off. You really want to just add on to the amount of Gikkles Im dealing with right now?