I leave the thread to make some nachos and loldebite shows up to shit on the parade.
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Man I’m ngl, FM feels pretty experienced but it’s pretty fun.
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Idk maybe my definition of gambit is wacky, I've gotten flak for it before. 5) is much less gambit-y FMPOV. 3) is less of a gambit because he IS caroler I guess ? 4) I guess is a gambit too. Because I don't think Gikkle EVER fakes having been caroled as town, but I reckon Frinckles could pull the trigger on such a gambit as either alignement ?
Loldebite can you imagine with me?
A player receives a carol. He posts it in thread. Then another player claims to have received a carol and posts it in thread. The order does not matter.
Which one is scum? It's a relatively safe play to make.
Now, the world we're in is the one where nobody received a carol because it went to a jailer and the scum player from the aforementioned thought experiment still decided to put a fake carol into the thread.
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illusionist or not
it does show that it is one less role that could've targeted Ikar or Gikkle to cause the current situation
jailor (Ikar)
caroler (Frinckles)
Tailor (Auwt's role from CE)
gunsmith/fabricator/illusionist? -- someone who targeted Renegade
Unknown role
Technically possible that its a lie given only you have claimed this (unless someone else has -- I haven't read up yet), but I'll believe it until circumstances suggest otherwise.
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Double quotes. Whatever, applicable to both.
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whatever dude. Ignoring you until you hopeful calm down
hopefully* duh
You'll come around. Till then, back to nachos. I used pepper jack for them and cooked the chips myself.
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I don't think I fully wrap my head around this.
I don't quite understand (or see) the reasoning where Gikkle is CE and he is being 100% truthful about the feedback. If that's what you're saying, I'd like clarification on that because it may mean that I agree with you that we should vote in Stellaria/Ika/You (I probably vote Stellaria in that case).
Also, if it isn't clear, I've come to the conclusion while I was gone that Frinckles is likely town regardless of what Gikkle is. Based on mybotchedreasoning before, we currently have three mis-eliminations before mafia win the game. If Frinckles is lying about what he did, which would make him mafia caroler imo, we would likely find that out before the threee mis-eliminations and correctly vote him out. Frinckles playing the way he has is sorta suicide if mafia.
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I don't think we can really theorize about bus driver play towards any meaningful point
I've never really been told what's proper play with it anyways and furthmore the few times I've been it I largely just did whatever I wanted rather than whatever I thought optimal (because, tbh, redirection is inherently circumstantial in its value and so predicting its value with certain moves is quite hard)
reminds me of the time when I bus-driver'ed you as mafia and when I claimed you went "what the heck I thought that was a friendly visit but you were trying to get me killed???" lmao
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I'm working atm, but i've been reading on the side.
Nobody is CCing caroler though??
im aware of time before EoD so ill be here to vote.
I doubt we would muster enough players from the mod/arcade to do an introductory gmae.
I've been told its been attempted in the past, and I presume that means after our game back in middle of 2020.
At the very least, its not the primary direction that staff want to take as it doesn't seem likely to encourage and sustain growth.
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If Gikkle is CE and lies to get 3 PR in the carol, that would be equivalent to outing all PR roles, which looks quite stupid because that's critical information for both town and mafia to juggle around. Arguably more important for town tho so maybe it's still conceivable.
And yeah it makes little sense for Frinckles as scum, which is why I refuse to endulge in that thunderdome.
don't think I agree on basis that the gunsmith doesn't do the killing themselves
if it were a typical day-vig role or whatever I would agree
fast games seems like YOLO'ing it for the win and hoping more PRs die than non-PRs before game-end, and so I don't think its optimal play for CE to want a fast game though they may want to add in one kill-power of some form somewhere
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Its taking me too long to catch up.
So I have 10 minutes to read the more recent posts and then do some thinking + a decision.
Its possible I may still be around to surface-level monitor things but this game can't be my main focus due to my other obligations.
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Gikkle either you entirely missed all of my content, or you misinterpreted everything I've said up to this point, or you're scum and you're taking every advantage that you can. So, so super easy to just say that none of my content is ever worth looking back on. But you're biased. You hard TR Ikarus (and WHY even do that to begin with?) I made some good points against Ikarus in my catchup posts that you seem to like to completely ignore (at least, I think they're good)
And you also entirely missed all of the context behind that list of reads that I had. I had some feelings that there could possibly be scum between you and Deb because of the interactions you'd had before. It wasn't something I wanted to dismiss yet but I didn't individually think either of you were scummy. I mean, I had a bunch of thoughts about who could be paired or unpaired in that post. But I had figured who I thought the scum could be between and I listed out those people. I kept you and deb on there specifically because if all of my other choices were wrong, I was pretty confident it could be either you or Deb. Now I'm considering your slot again. I'm still going to just vote Ikarus. I hard SR him more than anyone else but if he flips green then I think I'd rather vote you than deb
Also I'm pissed at Frinckles
who thought it was a good idea to give Ren a gun???
Things are gonna look real awful for you if any of us three (Deb, myself, or Ikarus) flip red and you don't die. Also, you claiming Caroler was an absolute awful move
fucking hell yeah that last comment of ika was scummy af again
-vote ikarusdk
do better
Did you even consider redirectives an option? Or Illusionist?
Can you case Ikarus, Stellaria? Because I really do not see him as a wolf rn.
Jesus Christ
hmmmm I can't agree with what you said but I've been thinking about what I would do if I were CE and whether or not I would lie about the results
I think I would share out of fear that not sharing gets me labelled a PR when I can't prove that (especially if no redirection roles were handed out)
And if I did share, I probably don't mess with it much because if most or all of the slots are judged to be town then that gets me thrown out of the game
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-vote Stellaria
if the timer doesn't get extended by 24 hours
I hope it does tbh but if not I feel like this is a better move atm even if might not be
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I'm not asking you to repeat what you've already said, I'm asking you to make a single post going in depth about all of your reasons for suspecting Ikarus in an effort to try and convince people who TR Ikarus to SR them. If I wanted simply your explanations I'd read your posts.