S-FM 347: Lazzy

[Varcron]

Not really, because I am pushing trout all the way right now. It doesn't really matter if I look bad not voting SB, because trout is 100 scum FMPOV.

You could be right, or Trout made a impulsive mistake and you are left to pick up the pieces. Either way, voting trout is the right way to go.

This could either be a town death tunnel or a scum desperately trying to bail his buddy out.

[ikarusdk]

Because if I were a scum

And if

Mabel ika pairing - I should hammer SB and win the game.
Trout ika pairing - I should hammer SB and win the game.
SB ika pairing - Given there are already 2 votes on SB, I should make Mabel SB votes into a tie.

Mabel, after this post why are you still unsure I am not town

[ikarusdk]

My vote will stay now that Varcron is here. What does worry me is SB was here and reading posts but left without saying anything.

If Varcron is hammering SB, I'll accept the result

[FM-Mabel Pines]

I agree with that, though we still have time before EOD so there's no need to rush. Who is your second scumread btw?

I'm not sure.

Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.

I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.

I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.

[FM-Mabel Pines]

Mabel, after this post why are you still unsure I am not town

Because your reasoning for SB ika not being the team doesn't add up.

Varc is never voting me over SB16 - so putting your vote on me will be in vain as Varc hammers SB16 and then we go to a F3 where I'm confirmed as town and you look awful for not voting the then-flipped wolf.

[ikarusdk]

I'm not sure.

Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.

I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.

I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.

Yeah so FYPOV we should hammer SB. FMPOV we should hammer Trout.

[Varcron]

I'm not sure.

Trout's been more consistent but ikarus has had townier moments - but ikarus has also had wolfier moments.

I would like the additional 48 hours to solve those two, if you have any particular thoughts on why you think Ikarus is town (or wolf) make sure to note them down.

I think it's very important you do hammer SB16 here though because that then mechanically confirms me as town and I have to find the wolf between ikar and trout
Whereas if you hammer Trout and Trout is town, we lose.
If you hammer Trout, and ikarus doesn't untunnel off of me, then we also lose.

I'd like discussion to keep happening for a little bit before we hammer, just want to get all the time we can, y'know?

[FM-Mabel Pines]

My vote will stay now that Varcron is here. What does worry me is SB was here and reading posts but left without saying anything.

If Varcron is hammering SB, I'll accept the result

Because he's literally a wolf and knows he's dying

[FM-Mabel Pines]

I'd like discussion to keep happening for a little bit before we hammer, just want to get all the time we can, y'know?

Feel free to keep discussing your thoughts, I have to leave though shortly

[FM-Mabel Pines]

Yeah so FYPOV we should hammer SB. FMPOV we should hammer Trout.

Except you think SB is also a wolf and I'm not sure between you and Trout and need more time to think about it.


You're wolf-siding, I don't know if you're a wolf-siding wolf or a wolf-siding town though.

[Varcron]

Yeah on second thought, I'm sorry if I just lost the game due to my lack of activity, but

-vote Stealthbomber16

[The Godfather]

Stealthbomber16 has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Stealthbomber16 (3 [L-0]): Trout, Varcron, FM-Mabel Pines
FM-Mabel Pines (1 [L-2]): Stealthbomber16
Trout (1 [L-2]): ikarusdk

[MartinGG99]

Stealthbomber16 was a moofia

Varcron has quit as they realized handling the finals and the office of Lazy Town Sheriff to catch one more mafia was too much.

Links/flips on 1st post will be added soon

Side note: Please don't mention the activity tracker (the "There are currently X users browsing this thread" thing) at the bottom of the page. Most sites (including my games) find that to be angle-shooting. Noting when someone reads the thread (or is simply online somewhere) is often thought as outside-of-game information and therefore should not be part of gameplay; obviously, however, you can note someone's activity or alleged activity through the timings of their posts or what they say they're doing. You may argue X or Y because of angle-shooting thing, but by no means should you be stating said angle-shooting in any reasoning you post.

I apologize, however, for not clarifying that earlier when I was emphasizing a few rules. It is an easy rule to break when you're a newer player.

[MartinGG99]

2 votes to hammer.

nearly forgot to set the bot again

smh me

[ikarusdk]

Well then. I guess I was right when I said mabel was towniest player apart from sheriff and I was wrong this morning about Mabel.

Doesn't mean I am still wrong about Trout.

[ikarusdk]

You're also not thinking ahead at all - Why would a Trout / SB team vote SB here?

There's an easy answer

Because if Trout is voting SB and you're not - then you look horrible going into that F3 for nearly losing town the game by not voting correctly.

And I guess this was the case.

[ikarusdk]

Sb being mafia explains him lurking this morning after I requested his support then leaving without saying anything.

[ikarusdk]

Varcron also thought Trout was maf and I agree.

-vote Trout

[ikarusdk]

It is upto you Lumi, trout went to sleep.

So you can either hammer Trout with me or vote me with Trout tomorrow

[ikarusdk]

It was always Mabel or SB and Trout

[ikarusdk]

From my perspective anyway. My worldview has always been that this game.

[ikarusdk]

I do admit that I was death tunneling and also did not realise about sheriff retiring this morning.

[ikarusdk]

If I am wrong here also, well then it means I still have alooooooot to learn.

I tried to play more proactively with my thoughts and instinct this game compared to the first game I was in

[FM-Mabel Pines]

I am mechanically confirmed town now by virtue of Stealth + Me not hammering Trout when we were both available to do so.

I will now find the last wolf, I think I already know who it is, but want to do my due diligence with backreading.

[Trout]

good morning everyone

with varcron out things get harder because you won't get any second opinion and also I think if we looked deeper into why varcron scumread me this would be a much easier choice but it is what it is.
it's also fascinating how Ikarus got so far, I've been poking at him since d1 and no one caught up how scummy he was. "Let's just ignore the newer player's insights", right?

[FM-Mabel Pines]

@Trout

I'm probably going to hammer you unless you can convince me you're town with a town-casing of yourself

[Trout]

@Trout

I'm probably going to hammer you unless you can convince me you're town with a town-casing of yourself

that would be a very uncalled for and unexpected mistake from you. also, what can i say that you haven't said already
i mean this is just a bait question but it isn't reasonable to aim it at me here.

i took some melatonin an hour ago cause i'm trying to re-adjust my sleep schedule, so i'll be logging off now. be careful and considerate

good night

[ikarusdk]

good morning everyone

with varcron out things get harder because you won't get any second opinion and also I think if we looked deeper into why varcron scumread me this would be a much easier choice but it is what it is.
it's also fascinating how Ikarus got so far, I've been poking at him since d1 and no one caught up how scummy he was. "Let's just ignore the newer player's insights", right?

I dont think you are new. I don't know about everyone else but it was very hard for me to read you, and the only way I could figure out you were scum was by doing my own anti pairing and pairing after they way mabel did, and how the game progressed.

I salute you though because you fooled me several times about your pair so good game for me several to learn.

[FM-Mabel Pines]

-vote Trout

Don't have the energy to explain why I think this is the solve right now.

Sorry if wrong! If I am wrong, then ikarus played an incredibly strong game for his first wolf game, massive props to him!

[The Godfather]

Trout has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Trout (2 [L-0]): ikarusdk, FM-Mabel Pines

[MartinGG99]

I was asked to be here 8 minutes early and I was too lazy to refuse

town wins

[FM-Mabel Pines]

NICE

[MartinGG99]

discord server link for the game (deadchat / mafia chat - in the spirit of laziness I skipped creating 2 separate servers)

https://discord.gg/kYArBkRy

[MartinGG99]

@oliverz144 is also basically banned from all of my future games that I host unless he can show a history of games AFTER THIS ONE where in he played in good faith

doing the bare minimum like this (especially with the lack of voting) for multiple games I was either the host of or a player is unacceptable, especially when compared with past games (most notable example being the last ?krc game) where Oliverz144 had provided much better involvement and activity

[FM-Mabel Pines]

@Trout

You played a very strong wolf game, you weren't caught, I just found Ikarus as town

[Stealthbomber16]

gg

[Trout]

gg. next game i know NOTHING

[Varcron]

GG

Trout played really well as wolf imo, although the push on oliver at least for me rung an alarm.

[MartinGG99]

It's going to be a bit awkward till the next game

currently slated ?krc will be next month towards end of january

thing is even if we try to fill a game before then it may end up taking a month long or just as long to fill lol, suggesting we might not have a signups till like early January for ?krc or something (this is going based off what I've heard or read, I'm by no means an official about this)

[oliverz144]

Guess im Late?
Was a cool game, esp with Trout, lets see you next game!

[oliverz144]

Oh and @MartinGG99 please unblock me on discord =D
Thanks!

[MartinGG99]

Oh and @MartinGG99 please unblock me on discord =D
Thanks!

....oooooor you could PM me on-site

I haven't put you on the ignore list. I've put you on discord block so that I remind myself of what I've stated above about you.