Oh
What were your actions each night?
Mechanically it does seem pretty black and white, but there are still a lot of things we don't know about what happened during night, and based off of dayplay I know Jmw is almost certainly town. Though I still have to ISO you both at some point. Clowns is still the lynch today though.
I thought that was what I just said but okay
@MarshmallowMarshall
I hate this website
tf
why are tags no longer working
@MarshmallowMarshall
@jmw what were your actions each night
@Marshmallow Marshall
your admin username space character power ab00se has rendered you immune to being @'ed by bakura
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I'm calling for a revolution
seize the means of production
everyone with spaces in their names should be equally taggable
I think Bakura slipped jmw was mafia though
he demanded an apology from me but has not even gotten mad at Jelly for being signfiicantly responsible for their own misyeet
the size-4 text implies not a strong desire for Jelly to be the execution for that day; if I had said this myself and the person I was now voting had been mute, I would be upset that they didn't even TRY to drag themselves out of yeet range
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
in fact the only time Jelly is mentioned after the Jelly misyeet
is in a case about clowns
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
First of all, I'm very mad at Oliver, Jelly, and Clowns. But Oliver and Jelly have to wait until postgame because they're literally dead. I didn't mention Oliver after he was lynched either. All 3 players have played extremely poorly, and Oliver and Jelly borderline gamethrew, but Clowns is the only one who still hasn't been lynched.
Secondly, I have no idea what you are talking about. I don't know if changing the quote was on purpose or not, but the entire original post was in the same font size as can be seen by going back to the source.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Because I named myself that way when I joined the forums XD. No admin powers in there, and I think Jelly should have been able to have spaces as well?
mwhahahaa admin aboose
YES
You just have to add the space in the name lol, nothing else (much like on all sites afaik).
I will be voting... I think jmw because he's basically guaranteed to be scum (or we lose since Martin and him voted eachother and I know Martin is town). I don't think there's any reason for me not to do this.
If someone sees a reason for which we should not all vote jmw, may they speak now or shut up forever, because I will place my vote.
Well well well. May the Lord RNGsus have mercy upon us if lynch ends up being randomized.
-vote jmw
If thou art town, thou shalt vote jmw. And if thou art Frinckles who claimeth to be neutral (and then to have lied? I'm not sure xD), thou shalt help us too :P
-vote MartinGG99
Vote scum
inb4 3way rng
(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶
I'm surprised you didn't even bother to consider a world where I'm town. Can I ask why you didn't bother (or at least, that I can see from your posts) expressing why you think a T!Jmw world is unlikely enough for you to vote me?
Actually, who still hasn't voted yet
Frinckles and Snom
so at the very least, they're not both scum, or maybe just too busy but probably not both scum. Since between the two of them they can force the lynch between Clowns myself or Martin and have not done so.
Four reasons (three actual ones and an additional thing):
- I roleblocked you and there was no kill. There is no other explanation for the lack of death (scum never intentionally no-kill here because they would just auto-win), and noone has claimed anything else explaining it (and at this point, if you're town with an explanation and don't bring it up, you are literally throwing lol)
- You straight up jumped on Varcron along with Clowns in perfect synchronization at EoD, which is why I blocked you in the first place.
- Martin and yourself voted eachother with locked votes. I know for a fact that Martin is town (there is no reason for him to be attacked on N3 otherwise, considering the lack of deaths on that night). If you actually happened to be town, that is two town votes on townies, which equals instant defeat for town - thus, a path to victory only exists if you're actually scum.
As for the additional thing: noone said anything to make me doubt all of the above, and I waited a very long time before placing my vote to make sure objections could be voiced first.
Thus, placing a vote on you is really the only logical move here. For the record, assuming you're scum, you played very well and had me fooled behavior-wise for a very long time. (If you're town, you played well too lol, but then we are screwed so pls don't be )
Look I'm not saying Jmw can't be town, but don't be so stupidly confident in yourself when we still have so many unknowns regarding night actions. We still have no idea how Clowns entered a chat with Jelly, what happened to the Hider scumchat mentioned in Ewian's last will, how Shaman died, or how Aporia was in a chat N1.
Also roleblocking doesn't stop someone from performing a kill. It just stops any role-specific actions.
@Frinckles
@Snom_
I am starting to acknowledge a Jmw lynch more and more as mech evidence does seem good, but I want to share something I realized earlier today:
A Clowns lynch confirms both Martin and me as town.
Martin, because Clowns supposedly started a chat with him N4 or something, and I don't see any reason for scummates to fake that, especially if Clowns can just chat with anyone.
And me, because I am cleared off a Clowns scum flip (not that anyone cares) because I've been pushing Clowns way too hard for us to be scummates bussing.
Oh yeah btw MM your reasoning for Jmw being scummy off of the vote at EoD4 also applies to Martin lol
Also Aporia was almost certainly in a chat N1, because N2 there were no actions and he was in one before N3. It can't be a redirector because why wouldn't a redirector claim?
Discuss.
I find it weird that the slot never claimed to be in any chats though
I don't even see who could've added him to a chat
Why did you pink me bakura?
Well clowns is definitely Mafia here, so.
(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶
yeah exactly
I mean I'm definitely considering Jmw as a lynch target for later, but Clowns is way scummier here
@Marshmallow Marshall you yourself literally said that Clowns should be out of here before LyLo and yet here we are with you not pushing Clowns for like 2 days in a row
Rn scumteam is looking like:
Clowns + Snom + either Jmw or MM
Hmm
looking back on Ewian's last will as mentioned earlier because I think we took what he said out of context way too much
To quote it exactly for coaching/town will be shaken and destroyed:
"let’s create an alliance I will coach and protect you, we vote together, join me and town will be shaken and destroyed"
I don't see why scum would say this to scum as they're already teamed
This basically confirms another chat took place N1, as I don't see why someone wouldn't claim this, especially not from MM/Jmw or Clowns/Jelly, and I can confirm it wasn't from me/Frinckles
So this would mean that there were 4 chats N1
But I have no idea who it could've been between
honestly the balance for this game has just seemed absolutely broken, at least from my pov
You make like 3 chatmakers + an upgrader and amnesiac, which isn't smart as chatmakers are gonna be the first to claim, and having so many chatmakers + upgraded chatmakers is overkill
and then to top it off, I'm a traffic analyst but can only tell if someone's been in a chat throughout the whole duration of the game
I am not stupidly confident, I just know for a fact my actions are real and thought it over a lot lol. You're not even bringing counterarguments, so I'm not sure why you'd say that...
As for the reasoning about EoD4, two reasons for which Martin doesn't fit in there:
- He was the first to place the vote in the streak, which looks much more like he's the townie who made the mistake on which scum capitalized rather than the scum who started it all; if he were, why not do it before?
- He is literally confirmed town from my point of view because I healed him, so to me, this is a non-issue.
oh snom is with clowns?
(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ 레드벨벳 ! ! ٩(♡ε♡ )۶
eeeh I think the bussing would just be kinda too awkward or just too much of a swing; I've seen scummates tunnel-bus before but generally not after TRing them by a fair bit (see SoD2)
but I think the "amount of clears" isn't that great of an argument in LYLO because if its wrong then even if it does clear people said clearing would be meaningless
Regarding the last bit, I think MM's point is more-so on the synchronization aspect
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Oh and I just noticed you said roleblocks don't stop factional kills: here, by convention, roleblocks do stop factional kills unless stated otherwise. And again, there is no other explanation for the no-kill last night.
I've thought about it more and suspect that if it didn't happen in your chat with frinckles and didn't happen in MM/JMW's chat
then it probably happened as a result of mafia discussing each other's public positions on d2, though this is stretching a tad bit I think
but not unimaginable
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Probably the best explainer of this
is if Ewian misinterpreted the mafia discussing their public positions as a 3p and mafia talking
that could make the wording of the paraphrase connotate something else even if it were (by definition) describing the same thing if you just paraphrased with the idea that it was 2 mafia discussing their positions
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
thats too many "if"s and yet I feel all of them are necessary lol
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
@Snom_
What does this mean
My counterargument was that Clowns is scummier and we still have a lot of unknowns about what happened during night. Also could you fullclaim your night actions so far?
Bro that's whack
All right then I guess Jmw's a fine lynch