DW mechanic speculating isn't weird. It was how he was doing it that made me reconsider how I read his slot.
The n0 thing was a big one.
The multi faction thing was another one.
And there was a third one I forgot.
If you're saying: Jelly must be scum because meta-wise DW was playing normally and Town!Jelly would not have a reason to come to the conclusion that DW was suspicious -- I disagree. DW deserved that lynch because that shit seemed whack imo. But there are like two other slots who would have been on that wagon if they'd been online. Mreevee and (I think?) MM.
Though at the same time, you say would have not been on that wagon if you were online. Weird.
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The only major thing pinging me about jelly is how chill they were with the chat/D2 clown no-claim but that's on them.
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@10000JellyDoughnuts
Wanna elaborate?
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w/e
bb
cu l8r d3
dont forget to do last wills
and lynch scum today
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I think there's a few ways to see it.
Context piece 1: Jelly did specifically cite the N0 question as possible TMI, which is fair game IMO
Context piece 2: I ask this question, specifically in the context of the # of neutrals in the game:
And get this answer:
...and the answer just feels fake? IDK, "he was confident that the N0 action was town" is a fair argument but the above answer isn't a specific claim; it's just a vague toneread. IDK, I'm trying to run this logic through out loud and hopefully get jelly to respond and elaborate. I'm not wild about lynching them but they're in my PoE.
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I've seen this argument a couple times and I don't actually like the framing; it IS within place given that I kinda walked out of the room EoD1 with the wrong vote. The issue is that her post is completely devoid of reasoning that clarifies this is why she voted me (unlike, say, jmw)
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*tinfoil hat*
what if jelly and clowns are both scum
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In terms of "who do I have substantive reasoning for scumreads", it's Jelly > clowns > ewian. There's some stuff with Frinckles that pinged me wrong but I can't specifically articulate it rn. I also don't really want to lynch Jelly if she's not around. I'll try to cast a vote in an hour or so.
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i could go todrizzt maybe
but hes new so that wouldnt be ok
frink is v
ahghghhg mark is con v
mm aint goig over
bak is v
jmw ewi eve all con v
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we got no lynch
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w/e not my problrm
solive this muricans
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About to got to a party so landing vote on Kelly for real this time
-vote 1000JellyDoughnuts
Last edited by ewianking; September 3rd, 2022 at 04:37 PM.
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-vote Ewianking
@ewianking talk to me about your Bakura and Jelly reads.
wow Ewian ninja'd me hard
I'm not opposed to a Jelly wagon here but I'd like to hear from them
in the meantime I wanna talk with Drizzt and Ewian but it seems like my timing was literally the worst possible :/
Ngl dead chat
well I'mma head out soon
wait nvm messages just didn't load rip
Marshmallow Marshall
Ashoka Tano
Mreevee
MartinGG99
Bakura1
Aporia
ewianking
Drizzt
oliverz144
Frinckles
TheClowns
10000JellyDoughnuts
I think I'm somewhere at here right now. If anyone's open for a dialogue I'd love to discuss reads otherwise I'll leave this in the background for a bit while I resolve something that came up.
Apologies for my absence. A certain IRL thing took longer than expected.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Ewian is in the PoE IMO; the ratio of contribution:content is low and were evasive when I observed that their read and vote on Jelly was poorly reasoned. Maybe they didn't feel they were super important posts, but I would expect t!ewian to engage particularly since he JUST voted Jelly. I don't see s!ewian being mutually exclusive with s!jelly either.
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I have a pet theory that if clowns is not-mafia then bakura probably is scum, simply because I think his spanish post (shown below) has some aspects which I definitely would have (as mafia) in the event of town-only or mostly-town wagons.
Might still be probable if clowns is mafia, but I think that's to a much lower degree.
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I'm not suggesting we vote Bakura
but rather I want there to be more discussion about him
because I rarely see any pro's or con's being thrown about in regards to him; most mentions are rather incidental unless my perception and memory here is incredibly biased
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Frinckles is very suspicious with his voting power, and if it were between me and him... obviously him.
Oliverz is a tough read, I do not see anything that pings him as scum in my opinion. Let me go find your post about your question, I'll be happy to answer.
I don't know what you mean there.
Yea sure. This sort of behavior reminds me of his game as Cult Leader on HPM. He's usually more aggressive than this, and I think he's wanting to slip under the radar.
Hello, I have a brief amount of time cuz the queue is taking awhile
Bakura I’m waiting for d3 let’s just say I don’t exactly trust him all the way
Jelly as I have said been off, as I have noticed , I think you can see this in my d1 reads
There was a very explicit reason why I @ed them sod but seeing new info coming in that was no longer reliable info. Unfortunately.
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Also wth my vote didn’t go through again
-vote 10000JellyDoughnuts
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My life is alternating between metareads of "Mark is aggressive, ergo he's scum" and "Mark isn't aggressive, ergo he's scum" : P
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This is good reasoning actually - I could drop Ewian to the Oliver/Frinckles tier and I think that's a pretty good encompassing PoE. Ewian's vote did feel like the worst of the bunch on Jelly. Do you have any thoughts on Drizzt yet? They're the hardest slot for me to read right now I feel.
Confession: this is the first time I've read this translated.
Why do you think it's less likely that bakura is scum if clowns is scum? I wouldn't rule this out as a scum-defending-scumbuddy post.
(I personally think it's equally likely that bakura is scum, regardless of what clowns flipped. If you think that there's an agenda with this post, clowns' flip isn't relevant.)
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-vote 10000JellyDoughnuts
I'm down for MM or Ewianking.
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or we could push Clowns off a cliff.
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[QUOTE=Aporia;970718]
Why do you think it's less likely that bakura is scum if clowns is scum? I wouldn't rule this out as a scum-defending-scumbuddy post./QUOTE]
clowns was at risk of being chopped anyways considering he was a major wagon and one that Bakura hadn't voted on himself
defending clowns then, if clowns is mafia, is a bad look
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Nope, sorry.
I'm going to ask you to prove a negative by asking you to point out which posts I'm not contributing in /s
I'm going back and forth for a couple reasons: first, it's hard to reason things out with just a few posts of content and not having someone to defend themselves and as such there's a few different POVs, b) because I some (e.x. Ewian) make kinda terrible arguments for lynching you, and I need to figure out whether or not that makes you more or less scummy.
Also, uh, I care about being right
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