that's pretty much it rn
ceko if you
d unvote me
I'd like to talk to martin and MM tomorrow if possible before i go to work i suppose.
that's pretty much it rn
ceko if you
d unvote me
I'd like to talk to martin and MM tomorrow if possible before i go to work i suppose.
I still think it's you but this is a good exercise in case I'm wrong/tunnelling
Around 5 posts later, Martin shot Brad out of the blue. Then he argued on page 8 that it makes little sense for him to shoot Brad of all people if he's scum trying to make the most out of his shot. And then on page 9, posts 412-414, he shows genuine thought progression (as scum, he doesn't need to reevaluate you here; plus, it's not even natural for scum to do that, since they aren't actually scumhunting).
So all in all, circumstances changed a lot due to shots and Martin did substantially towny things. I stand by what I said here
I am mostly waiting on @MartinGG99 's input here to decide what should be done
looking at both Oli and DrZ iso's it seems they interacted with you just as much as they interacted with each other
so I don't see this as a point in your favor; but I don't see it as a bad sign either because I think that's how often they would interact with you regardless of alignment
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
you seemed to have tried interacting a lot with oli though on your side of things
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Can we just lynch someone for info? Preferably someone who has shot a townie.
If ceko were wolf and trolling then that would inherently make the evidence earlier (which would suggest he's trolling) into evidence of a smart wolf play
which ends up being cricular-ish logic saying that Ceko is only trolling here as town and wouldn't be as wolf
reinforcing the point that interaction spews Ceko town
-vote Mizery
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
Mizery has been hammered. Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!
Mizery (3 [L-0]): Marshmallow Marshall, theoneceko, MartinGG99
theoneceko (1 [L-2]): ChannelMiner
MartinGG99 (1 [L-2]): Mizery
Day 6
Mizery was eliminated by majority vote. Mizery was a Citizen
4 players alive, 3 votes to hammer.
Player Name Role Day Killed LagCitizen Day 1 @Marshmallow Marshall N/A Alive oliverz144Goon Day 4 @MartinGG99 N/A Alive MizeryCitizen Day 6 DoctorZeusGoon Day 5 BradLandCitizen Day 2 @ChannelMiner N/A Alive OberonCitizen Day 3 @theoneceko N/A Alive
oh for fucks sake
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
At least MM can shoot ceko
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
regardless of how this plays out
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
r u kidding me?
WHY DID WE VOTE OUT THE DUDE WHO SHOT A GOON?!?!?
Fuck it I'm voting MM.
-vote Marshmallow Marshall
I don't feel like me taking the extra step to be 1000% sure who's mafia in ceko/channel is going to change my impression of myself in that game all that much. So I'm opting to give the win to MM. I trust them being town the most out of everyone here and if that's mafia then he deserves the win (anyone else winning as mafia here would partially be due to town incompetence imo).
I'm not gonna vote him out today, which would be the last chance to stop him if he's mafia (as with 3 town & 1 mafia left, the mafia can't prevent their own yeet with a shot BUT they can at 2 town & 1 mafia)
With me not voting MM, the game can either continue to MM's win (MM either eventually just shoots the remaining player at 1 town & 1 mafia if we screwed up that bad OR 2 town & 1 mafia if MM is evil) or this day will just never end in which case I'm considering it a town win (which is what I think MM is).
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
because they were being threatened at votepoint to shoot
at which point if you're a wolf with a gun you gotta decide either to self-preserve as wolf or to shoot someone in the hopes that it looks better for your teammates
its not the same context as you shooting Oli
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
@Marshmallow Marshall
I'm open to yeeting anyone in here but you. The only reason I tried at all solving yesterday was because I thought if I got it right then maybe I didn't play so bad this game.
Also if this flips wolf I'm never trusting troll reads from my town reads ever again and will just policy them on how bad their actions were.
-vote theoneceko
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
well I said I wasn't going to do any solving but....
why the hell are you voting a person who hasn't shot anyone yet & decided to put effort into their pushes
as compared to people who have most certainly shot town without putting effort into just pushing (instead of shooting) them?
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
like I shot brad without pushing them first
ceko shot lag without even a peep before
MM hasn't shot at all and yet he had the gall as wolf to push someone who shot a wolf
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
for legal reasons that was a joke
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
seriously, if mm ACTUALLY shoots me then he is either worst town ever or just maf
but martin is so obviously a wolf here its not even funny,
1. he shot brad
2. that hammer? hello????
3. he is prob a partner w zeus:
courtesy MIZ
ur lack of interaction w zeus is not excused lmfao
imagine a person thanking someone for an easier-to-access ISO feature but then just doing ISO's the difficult way anyways
certainly wouldn't be me now would it
would be a damn shame if it were....
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
im pretty sure that mm will shoot mart anyways but that hammer pissed me off,
i forgot to delete that vote on miz from my wall and mart took advantage of it
oooh look another way to justify my play
I like to think less trolling has happened this game, so I wanna vote in order of the "possible worlds having the least amount of trolling"
1. Ceko wolf (Ceko's trolling has been wolf play & Channel did not screw his team over)
2. Channel wolf (Ceko's trolling is genuine trolling & Channel either deliberately or accidentally screwed his team over by throwing away the instant win)
3. MM wolf (Ceko has been genuine trolling & MM almost screwed his team over by throwing the instant win & Martin was Martin and was just terrible)
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
oh um
to be clear what I did in that last post didn't have any intended innuendos innit
I just wanted to spite ceko
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
I'd like to point out though
im the only person here prepared to not suddenly reconsider MM's alignment to push them in a f3 if we get this wrong
so like yeeting me (or, worse, shooting me) is the wrong play here from a !town MM world
if I somehow had a change of heart it would be so significant that the other surviving town (in a hypothetical !mafia Martin world) would just know it's me and not MM
thus saving both MM from having to use his gun in F3 and even if he gets it wrong in F3 he can just shoot to win in F2
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
@Marshmallow Marshall ignore mart, idk if he just knows how to pocket u but:
1. MIZ and i wanted u to shoot mart
2. MIZ and ober, the two strongest town, liked me and disliked mart. i can literally pull up quotes
it does not get simpler than this, and im pretty sure u will shoot mart anyways? u literally said u miz/mart were in ur poe and ceko TOWN befor u lynched miz
like just take note how Ceko's focus on me
is solely on me
he isn't spending time justifying why others are town
hes just explaining why I'm (allegedly) scum
so when he backtracks after a hypothetical !town Martin flip
it's not all that bad really from Channel's point of view
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
martin, i cant follow anything u say and will not try bc i know u are scum
anyways, I gotta go back to my really boring paper on the meaning & purpose of life
which is due like 23 hours from now
A.K.A "That One Idiot"
i have by far more posts than anyone, so i will stop
and mm is in the thread, i will wait for him
This is a quite surprising outcome (well, not much anymore since the game didn't end as soon as the lynch happened, so when I saw stealth was waiting on his deadline, I knew...). I thought my case really was good and in the end it was just wrong
Have you read the reasons I laid out yesterday? For real, this vote feels plain wrong, even from a newbie's perspective. It's like you are convinced of what should be done without really getting into the game, even though this is a wild game even by forum mafia standards... and this, as a newbie. Like, no, this doesn't work?
I am not voting or shoot ceko here, he's my top townread, ironically enough. I just don't see him being scum despite the spew. See yesterday's posts on his interactions. Besides, if ceko is scum, this is a highly ridiculous game lol, and it will mean we have to actively enforce a punitive meta towards trolly/anti-town actions.
Also, if we look at things from a more mechanical point of view...
The position Martin is adopting here is one that makes him 100 % lose if he's scum: if he doesn't get me lynched, he is one hundred percent certain to lose, because I will just shoot him in 1v1 even if he were to convince me to lynch everyone else.
Scum!ChannelMiner is in a similar situation... and o surprise, he wants me dead?
Also
In the end, this was never addressed by ChannelMiner, and it could be a newbie scum's cognitive dissonance... could be. All in all, CM appears to be the least towny of everyone here, considering the only thing that is really going for him is his shot on Oliver.
And if I stretch a bit:
could be TMI, especially considering the natural reaction of a newbie to such play usually isn't "oh it's just dumb town".
-vote ChannelMiner
Thoughts on the matter appreciated
See the mechanical argument (Martin locking himself out from voting me, which dooms scum!him) in my last post. This is a path to defeat for scum!Martin. Also, my shot literally guarantees us the win (assuming town!MM, which I know to be true) even in 1v1 because of how the wincons are worded.
-vote ChannelMiner
MM's vote target has my vote, as stated I'm never voting for MM.
Quite nice to have thread-browsing activity info, as I was going to leave. Shame on me that I ironically have incognito mode on while saying this.
A.K.A "That One Idiot"