But how do you know the person is town if the supposed troll is likely just scum? Plus, we as a community should simply not accept such play from townies. That's called punitive meta. Remember our conversations about it 3 years ago? If anything, this could be you TMIing Ceko as town.
oberon refuses to see people as numbers, i respect that
By talking to them
How did Distorted know you were Citizen in that game where you CC'd a fucking CONFIRMED TOWN ROLE as a Citizen?
Also I'd rather play the game than engage in punitive meta, which doesn't sound that interesting to me and is besides the point of the game
If I can win with a troll in the game because I figured out they were trolling and didn't surrender my intellect to emotion I would feel a lot better about myself than if I lost because "fuck trolls"
You are assuming he didn't grief the game. Why would you make that assumption, especially considering the nature of the setup?
Also it was you that posted in the setup thread ages back that this game can be fun both as a troll game and as a regular game. You're now insisting it has to be taken as a regular game. WHY?
I certainly didn't expect anyone to hammer on D1, and took it as a normal game, but is this really that far outside of something ceko would do as Town? This reminds me of plotato skipping dudes' songs on Discord and laughing to himself IRL
Not that far-fetched as you make it out to be IMO, this is how the previous setup ended
lol
guys
lets just never hammer nor shoot
endless mafia game
Praise the Lord!
i thought this was wildwild WEST, WHY TF is everyone dissecting my fuckin troll shoot
like, i am sorry but i did not want lag in this game anyways,
if u guys dont randomly shoot, ur not playing the setup the way it is meant to be played. EVERY0NE HAS A DAYKILL FOR A REASON L0L, FUCK JUST HAVE FUN,
fuckfuck, fuck
He is playing on the "but it was a fun shot" here. There is no world where we can safely trust him, as it's very easy to just play on this as scum. And EVEN if you're playing for a fun game, shooting people who haven't spoken yet is not exactly "fun"...
Also, one shouldn't assume rulebreaking, since rulebreaking is technically not part of the game lol. It's a dangerous way to approach the game.
And yes it's possible we just gave him excellent WIFOM by defending him excessively but I blame you for being bloodthirsty and wanting to lynch because MM.exe stopped working
we should lynch everyone who says “pls do not shoot”
ok, not rly, but seriously WTF?!? anyways this does N0T MATTER!!!!
mm dropped from null to possible scum, note that he hasnt commented at all on channelminer! mm shud know why, so this is QUITE odd from MM
Distorted looked at it non-mechanically and tried to actually read you and did figure out you were town in the end, so this argument is invalid lol
Want to know who followed this policy Lynch gut "always Lynch anti-town"? Lenneth! What did he do? He lynched 2 townies in a row!
I wasn't saying you shouldn't assume something, but rather that you should assume people are playing without cheating or straight up playing against their wincon intentionally. I'll grant you that I was unclear, though.
And I guess "but I thought the game was a troll game!!" is..... well, it's a shit defense, but it has some merit, considering the setup.
You shouldn't. This is very informative, and I think you're honestly town thinking you can avoid a mislynch; if you're scum, I honestly fail to see why the heck you would put your own life at risk to defend him lol. Hell, you might even be right. But there is absolutely no world in which we can bring this guy to LYLO. And the nice thing with lynching him is that he cannot shoot us to avoid the lynch, meaning we get to see a standard-ish wagon.
someone should just shoot me, i am town but this is madness . there’s so much wifom for what should be a fun setup
Ceko can defend himself by trying to play the game like a townie. That will help us get a read on him.
If he does so satisfactorily we will not lynch him unless we literally have no targets. We have plenty of things to go around on, such as Martin, yourself and Zeus, neither of whom are particularly townie. Heck, from your perspectives even I can be scum. I'm pretty fucking sure I could say this as scum too, at least in the mod, where I always act towny irrespective of alignment (as Mafia I always bus my teammates if they're retarded. I'm not carrying dead weight and outing myself just cuz they got found out).
If through his interactions we become convinced he is scum then we will lynch him. But I am not policy lynching him just because.
@rumox will i be banned after this game?
Also since you guys like game theory so much, Ceko has acted so anti-town that if we make it to LyLo and he is still alive and we are not sure who to lynch, there's a high likelihood he will be Mafia.
what is wrong with martin though?
He doesn't really seem to be planning to play like a townie...
And sure, you could say this as scum, because absolute certainty with behavioral tells doesn't exist. RADICAL FREEDOM!!! Only mechanics can give absolute certainty. We don't have cop checks here, though, so we have to rely on behavioral tells. And here, I think you're town, whether you like it or not
also I am most obviously town
Oh you already said that
One game Paopan was scum and I defended him in spite of his stupidity. One game Paopan was town and I still defended him in spite of his stupidity.
What does this prove?
That stupidity does not one scum make.
This does sound pretty fake tho
Reminds me of what Mike said in his literal first post as evil one game
"carry me, I have no clue who it could be at this point"
Slaol was also in that game if @Marshmallow Marshall remembers
hey guys
Why shouldn't i shoot martin