Why do I feel like this comes out of nowhere.
I'm not even going to debate the first two, as I might have been missing or not remembering correctly some of their posts but the last point is blatantly unproven to me.
Why would a neutral!SB16 imply a !neutral!Lag ?
To be fair I would not be shocked seeing them both neutral, although I can agree it is not the likeliest.
Also not even going to ask how you came up with that 90% because I feel like theres no possible correct answer.
The only quick conclusion I can draw from that 1v1 between Lag and Stealth, is that they are likely not in a same team, as they seem to be pushing each other quite harshly and genuinely.
If I had to give a good point to ceko I would probably give it here.
Guilty or null, until playing, is something I am endorsing
Although I haven't commented on this list, but I don't personally like seeing half the lobby being colored in green D1.
Especially since nothing really striked me to apprehend Bradland for instance.
Same goes for Wrath, even though I feel like more useful content has been posted by him.
I've got to admit, I kinda understand why he would put PQR in town list, as he has been doing strong town looking early on D1, which I sort of agree with.
We need to get votes off of Stealth right now. He has been a null read, and I think it's because Lag has not given him a chance to look like town. I'm fairly confident in my ability to determine Stealth's alignment because I accurately read him as town before. The fact that he has been playing FM for so long and playing similarly to the last time we played together also makes me think that his meta is quite predictable. I don't think Stealth is town, but I do think we should keep him around. Even if I die, Lag will get him lynched.
This is another awful comment from Oliver. Several people already said my play at the very start of this game was suspicious, so Oliver just looks like an opportunistic Illuminati member right now.
Hold on, you don't think stealth is town, but you want to keep him around?
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Best case here if you're reading him to be exactly the fixer, every single other non - town role should go. (with obvious exception being the conspiracy theorist since that role is basically just town with extra steps eg the Magus from last hope)
but sometimes it be like that. bradland is a slot that i dont think is getting enough attention
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Frinckles, what are your thoughts on Oliver? He just posted.
I am not happy with how Frinckles just slightly discredited PQ. PQ definitely has his strengths, and I remember that Frinckles made me doubt my effectiveness as a town player during another game when he was in the Mafia.
Lag and Banana didn't provide any thoughts on Oliver's alignment.
Banana brought up one decent point about a single post I made, but besides that I know nothing about his alignment.
Lag is weirdly fixated on this tunnel. I don't think such a strong town player would commit so much to it, but Lag does seem to be the most emotional player in this game. There are some extremely strong posts from Lag, so I really hope that she got a green rolecard.
Oliver is my top lynch target and Stealth is my second. I'd say Oliver is a higher priority right now because there is still a lot of mystery around his slot.
@theoneceko
What non town roles do you think he could be where you want to keep him alive?
Oliver is still catching up and has ignored my questions directed to him, I will weigh in once he's done and until the he's still just solidly in my scum bucket. Mostly because I know he's reading this and pretending he hasn't yet and if I say anything otherwise he will interpret ignoring me as a license to get townread. Which just won't fly by me, lol
I am not excluding your first option, that's why I am having a bad time really taking a stance in your "fight" against SB.
From my perspective you are a 3P, and I cannot find much about Wrath's towniness, so yeah, I find it possible.
Also it seems there are three neutrals in this game as far as I am aware (Conspiracy Theorist, Fanatic, Political Radical).
Are you already excluding yourself, trying to seek the other two ?
I particularly want to know why Wrath thinks that Stealth and Mizery could both be in the Illuminati.
Auwt has been reacting to me the way I'd expect a town to. He mirrored my thoughts on Mizery and Wrath while being one of the few players to suspect Frinckles. However, I do expect some stronger play from him. It was silly for him to call Lag a neutral in response to one of the posts she made.
i dont think oliver has done anything that pings me as innately scummy. the interactions between oliver & lag are a little weird i guess.
if anything, sure oliver is kind of defensive just very specifically at lag.
discredited might not be the word you're looking for. all i did was agree with you that im personally not convinced pqr is town because of how random he's playing (like him soul-reading me town) but maybe thats just D1 shenanigans. his teambuilding is smart, idk how he threw you into that though.
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Originally Posted by BananaCucho
From the posts I remembered having a look at, nothing really pinged me to the point I am not sure to be able to quote one from my head.
Would fall under null option I guess.
I addressed him at some point because I did not understand his reference to a #postnumber that had nothing related to my quote, no answer yet.
You should go read the rolecard and win-con for the conspiracy theorist again. The conspiracy theorist can only win when town also wins, and is only classified as third party because they can lose even if town wins.
The role is the single most important role for town in the game since it's the only way for town to know for certain what candidate they need to elect - and since town will lose the game if any other candidate wins - even if all the scum are dead - finding that information out should be just as much a priority as finding out who the scum are.
The role is so important to town that it is nerfed even further by always dying to the factional kill and appearing as suspicious to alignment checks, despite being town for all other intents and purposes.
I liken it to the Grand Magus role from your Last Hope setup because they're of similar importance.
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Now, why do you think I'm 3P as opposed to just a wolf?
Because people aren't going to read the setup, the neutral roles are:
Conspiracy Theorist - Named Town Power Role
Fixer - Benign Survivor
Far Left/Right - Either pro-town or pro-illuminati survivor, depending on if their goals align are oppose each other
Terrorist - Evil survivor that makes everyone else lose if they survivor
Russian Spy - Serial Killer
Unity Party - Cult
Messenger of God - Arsonist
Well I consider 3P anything that is not green nor red in this setup.
I will be honest I've only read my role yet.
You are giving same vibe than Mike gave me I believe in Silenter Night (FM).
As you were not in this one, I will make some sort of a very brief summary :
Mike decided to act "so much like a town" during D1 that it pinged me, and although I called him multiple times 3P, he was not voted off and we lost the game anyway (iirc his role did not change much, might need confirmation).
I am doubtful and distrusful of that kind of behaviour.
Although you might not be super towny-looking, I am having that same exact vibe.