I'll sleep on it. But I'd rather trust my gut in that I don't think you played scummy on purpose and are just trying to save face.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
lets talk abt the setup.
there are 3 bombers (stealthy pun!), those all have to die until night 5? or n6? or we lose.
there is this voting shenanigan. we have to vote one out of those main candidates. 3p is a vote trash can we shouldnt vote too much.
idk what alignments want who voted. there is one that wants 3p, there is one that wants one of the main candidates voted.
there is some vote manipulation roles
Praise the Lord!
I am more or less not able to do a proper read list right now.
It would help to have Lag's opinion on MM, Wrath opinion on Ceko, and vice versa...
Also I do not know what to think about oliver, Mizery, Banana and Brad.
Those are shady spots to me.
i got a discord message from dw, our beloved host, saying "game started, pms randed" deep in to the night. and, well, i was searching yesterday for a long time until i understood what game that was abt.
i got here, saw replies, said "nah man fck it" and went to some sinphonic orchestre instead. it was cool, beethoven and mozart.
how about YOU, and YOUR wolfy entrance? (its wolfy not in ur meta but in general)
however
entrances are also often unreadable, so unless you are searching for some lhf for the d1 mislim, we shouldnt judge by them.
Praise the Lord!
Oliver, read the thread, post your reads, post your thought on the game state, focus on making sure you post these things
Praise the Lord!
MM is solidly null right now along with you Banana, Dum, and one other person that I don't remember right now, but they're in my reads list I posted earlier.
Problem with MM is he has not done anything that a wolf MM couldn't easily do. If I'm right about stealth, then he's not teamed with stealth, if I'm wrong, then he could be a wolf just picking whichever side sounds more convincing despite being wrong.
But ehh, so without preflipping SB, he's null, maybe town leanish
The conspiracy theorist is basically named town since their win con aligns with town
The fanatic has a 1/4 chance of being a terrorist which needs to be taken care of, but the other three are more benign, fixer can every potentially be a huge boon for town since illuminati and the radicals lose if there's a tie between the leading wagons
The political radicals though are indeed menaces with one of them being an SK, one of them being a cult, and the last being an arsonist
Reminder that exactly as I predicted, stealth STILL hasn't meaningfully weighed in on more than 3 slots this game and seems to be using the tunnel as an excuse to not solve
Definitely not a fan of the way Banana completely ignored my large post. I was in line with some of their thoughts. I can respect their point on not caring about posting when you come and go. Don’t like how they ignored what I would consider to be my better points.
The great part about FM is that as town you can throw out whatever reads you want with the confidence that at worst they're just random, but that's going to be better than a wolf's tmi reads, they can't make reads like you can as town because they have tmi. Using the excuse that you don't know, or you don't make reads on day 1 are lame excuses to play lazy and anti town
@oliverz144
Please make your reads list with your thoughts on each player in the game after you've caught up! Thank you!
Games that stealth has played in or games on this site where a wolf tunneled someone hard :
Last Hope - blink tunneled me day 1
Gravity Falls - blendin Blandin tunneled me day 2
Murder in the Mid Atlantic - wolves tunneled wrath on day 2/3
Once Upon a Town in the West - Mike and PQ tunneled Light all game
Politico - I tunneled Voss day 2
Off site deck mafia game - I tunneled PQ day 1
Is the decision to tunnel very early uncommon?
Yes, especially day 1
But it definitely happens
Hahaha what the fuck how is a list of games where someone did an early tunnel at all relevant to the fact that I think you're scum right now?
Where did I say or claim that I don't know or that I don't make reads on day 1?
This is a strange game for me because typically, as both wolf and town, I like to just sit back and try to gather town reads. But this game I have an incredibly strong scumread, a weak scumread, and everyone else is just kinda there. I think Auwt is town, I guess Wrath is town, I think Brad is town, I think Mizery is town. Those are the 4 town people I have right now and that's probably the least controversial set of 4 townreads ever put together in a game of forum mafia in the history of forums on the internet. But this is also a setup that I don't fully understand, and there aren't actually that many town slots. I guess if there's any game for a playstyle change it would be this one so in hindsight I'm doing the right thing.
@Stealthbomber16
You admitted yourself that I had a number of good points in my case against you.
I want you to imagine a world where this is t/t for me. You open with a tunnel on me, express over confidence in this read. Expressing confidence you didn't actually have. As I mentioned before, that was a major thing that pinged me, you not only expressed over confidence, but seemed unwilling to consider other possibilities, that is the second thing that pinged me. Then your play this game with respect to solving other slots outside of your interaction with me is nearly non existent. That is the third thing that pinged me. And finally you seem completely uninterested in solving slots from a perspective other than how they interact with our tunnel, that's #4.
Imagine this is town vs town. Imagine how me seeing all those things would naturally cause me to wolf read you.
If this is town v town btw, this will be the first time we've actually been town together at the same time
Gravity Falls you were the evil mastermind
Bisected Souls you were on even days and I was on odd days
Politico we were both wolves
Off site deck mafia, we were both 3P
I have no direct experience playing with your town game. If your overconfidence mixed with a refusal to read more than 3-4 players on day 1 is your town meta, then
1) that's borderline anti town play, do better
2) it's just as much your job to convince me and everyone that is the case
I'm struggling to get to a town read on Auwt, he just feels like he's just there for me, why do you think he is town?
Ditto for Brad
Presumably if stealth were town and thought I was wolf, he would love the opportunity to talk about as many slots in the game as he could with me to get me to spew my entire team.
Whereas a wolf that is just interested in a tunnel as a cop out from solving would actively avoid talking about other slots with their wolf read
I can understand this.
I've never ever had an astonishing shining D1.
The thing is we are mainly only over reacting on what people says.
Easily distinguishable when you look at my posts, only answering and throwing shades.
And I know this is not giving me a good town look, but that is not necessarly what I am looking for when playing a D1 FM.
This aside, I hope to be more productive (and shiny) after seeing flips/actual game facts/lws/night actions.
Unga bunga
If sb16 flips wolf, mizery has to be deepwolfing
if sb16 flips green, MM has to be wolf
if sb16 flips neutral, Lag is not 3p and has 90% chance of being wolf
Hello Oliver. Can you be more detailed in your language? There's no way anyone would know that all the 3P roles are a killing role, but you made it sound that way to anyone that wouldn't know better. Also, the Conspiracy Theorist is not a killing role and there's another flaw I will not mention about your setup speculation, because I think that talking about the setup right now is extremely pointless.
What alignment do you think Lag is?