S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Is that a leaf]

I'm town. I made poor choices that I didn't believe they were poor choices back then. But as soon as you see my role, you will see that I have not played anti-town, I just executed my abilities the best way I could.

You also sus me for having a lot of actions that are incredibly powerful, go and check some of the flips and tell me with a straight face that they are not more powerful than what I claimed.

You're actually much more convincing with the rolecard just below. I think we should at the very least keep you as a dessert if we do end up having to lynch you, i.e. we lynch the scummier people first.

[FM-CBI Agent]

yup lets just ignore everything I said today. sounds good

[FM-Chad Knight]

I agree that CBI looks scummy.

-vote FM-Dark Unicorn

But I want to see Dark Unicorn's rolecard. The parasite is NOT an explanation for him visiting me. And now he's done it twice.

[FM-CBI Agent]

-vote FM-Myopia

Don't want to risk scum giving them an antidote or anything

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Hmm you are right.

Maybe the faction is called Werewolves or something though?

Its very clearly highlighted that mafia is in quotation marks meaning the name of the faciotn

Purple's not a triad, so if there is only one scum faction then I'm probably wrong on Purple.

I just think they are awfully anti-town

This + the case you made on Purple is by far the towniest behavior you have ever exhibited. I am really tempted to say you are town tunnelling Purple, for better and for worse.

By PoE, this leaves us with:

CBI
Myopia
Earless
Unicorn
(Technically ohno from my point of view, but I haven't seen why they suddenly started trying hard and leading town today so this might change)

Town being:
Leaf (obviously)
Purple
Father
Chad
(Let's say I put ohno here)

On 24 players, 10 have flipped town. We add the 5 players above, that makes 15/24 town. 1 neutral and 1 serial killer makes 17/24. 3 triad flipped makes 20/24. CBI and Myopia being other triads? Makes it weird that CBI was on Myopia's tied-leading wagon on D1 instead of being off-wagon or on Eyes, but not impossible that CBI would bus Myopia for being... of little value? Somewhat dubious, so might want to put Myopia elsewhere...?

This tends to suggest the existence of another scum team with ~ 3 members, doesn't it?

[FM-Is that a leaf]

yup lets just ignore everything I said today. sounds good

What do you mean lol

[FM-Is that a leaf]

LMAO here is Earless Artiste's role

Waaaaaaaait why would Earless be Forum Mengsk? If he actually is, it's perfectly possible he is last Triad who tailored Tesseract as town, isn't it? Or that some flip is bogus?

There also isn't a reason to ever keep Earless around. Never ever. In fact, he might be even scummier than Myopia, because he has no non-association with CBI, whereas Myopia does.

[FM-CBI Agent]

I cannot disagree with this. Except that he's poisoned and should never be healed, so there's no point in lynching him. But yes. I have no clue why we haven't lynched him earlier, like damnit lol.

Also, I have re-read CBI's list of reads. I liked it while I was under the assumption Tesseract was definetly scum. But now, it awfully feels like CBI has been surfing on the chaos and has gladly supported mislynches while remaining thoroughly uncontroversial. So

-vote FM-CBI Agent

What mislynches have I supported?
I was on the myopia train day 1, which thanks to comrade turned into a coin flip eyes lynch.
Day 2 I was on tesseract which at the time everyone else seemed willing to hang if it weren't for the LHF triad red claim.
and day 3 I was also on tesseract, which was the only train at ALL.

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Alignment: Town
Role: Forum Mengsk

Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

Win Condition:
Eliminate all anti-town factions.

Rolecard:
Forum Mengsk

I will not be stopped. Not by you, or the mafia, or the third party, or anyone. I will rule this thread or see it burnt to ashes around me!


A one-shot night kill, which will not work upon targeting a non-town (town being the uninformed majority faction) and will be treated as if you were role-blocked. This kill cannot be protected against except for role-blocks or redirections.

If either:
XXXXXXX
XXXXXXD
There has been at most 1 non-town death by the end of night 2

Then the following will happen:

Your role will be re-named to Emperor Mengsk.

You will gain another one-shot night-kill, but instead of working against town it will work against any non-town (hitting a town with this shot will not work in a similar manner instead).

Oh, that is why it's you, it's because you literally claimed it while withholding important information (such as the death tailor).

WHAT ABOUT YOU DIE

-vote FM-Earless Artiste

[FM-Is that a leaf]

What mislynches have I supported?
I was on the myopia train day 1, which thanks to comrade turned into a coin flip eyes lynch.
Day 2 I was on tesseract which at the time everyone else seemed willing to hang if it weren't for the LHF triad red claim.
and day 3 I was also on tesseract, which was the only train at ALL.

I guess I should have used singular: "mislynch", although it was a major part of the game over at least two days. Your consensual stance on Tesseract was just that, as far as I remember, a consensual stance; nowhere did you come out with brand new arguments to take them down, or with elaborate thoughts on why they might be scum. If you can prove me wrong, I will gladly reevaluate, though.

[FM-CBI Agent]

I guess I should have used singular: "mislynch", although it was a major part of the game over at least two days. Your consensual stance on Tesseract was just that, as far as I remember, a consensual stance; nowhere did you come out with brand new arguments to take them down, or with elaborate thoughts on why they might be scum. If you can prove me wrong, I will gladly reevaluate, though.

Yeah I've been mostly coasting this game because every day there's been "Red check this" "Red check that" which have all turned out to be accurate.
There's a lot of players and I want YOU to imagine yourself trying to lead a town this large on day 1

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Yeah I've been mostly coasting this game because every day there's been "Red check this" "Red check that" which have all turned out to be accurate.
There's a lot of players and I want YOU to imagine yourself trying to lead a town this large on day 1

Well, I don't have to imagine. I tried to lead the town to lynch Myopia on D1, and then actively tried to get Tesseract lynched by bringing arguments for it. I won't say I have been terribly successful in leading the town, but at least I have tried and that is probably quite apparent when you read my posts. You, on the other hand, seemed quite content with how days were going, considering you didn't try to change how they went much.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Yeah this is correct.

-vote FM-Earless Artiste

@FM-Dark Unicorn

Claim.

[FM-Is that a leaf]

But scum may have an antidote

-vote Myopia

Doubtful, antidotes are not available anymore since the Tradestar Midas left, if I'm not mistaken.

[FM-CBI Agent]

Well, I don't have to imagine. I tried to lead the town to lynch Myopia on D1, and then actively tried to get Tesseract lynched by bringing arguments for it. I won't say I have been terribly successful in leading the town, but at least I have tried and that is probably quite apparent when you read my posts. You, on the other hand, seemed quite content with how days were going, considering you didn't try to change how they went much.

Well the days have gone pretty well.
Neutral killer self detonated day 1.
Two triad killed day 2.
Triad killed day 3.

[FM-CBI Agent]

Really the only way the previous days could have gone better is if we haven't mislynched at all, and I was pointing away from the mislynch on day 1

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Well the days have gone pretty well.
Neutral killer self detonated day 1.
Two triad killed day 2.
Triad killed day 3.

2/3 days were mislynches, and the one day that didn't end with a mislynch was the highly consensual lynch on Inconspicuous, which doesn't really count because it was a scum check noone had any reason to deny. Your answer is not honest lol. When I address days, I obviously mean debates resulting in votes, not weird shenanigans we can't even properly explain that resulted in daykills.

[FM-CBI Agent]

2/3 days were mislynches, and the one day that didn't end with a mislynch was the highly consensual lynch on Inconspicuous, which doesn't really count because it was a scum check noone had any reason to deny. Your answer is not honest lol. When I address days, I obviously mean debates resulting in votes, not weird shenanigans we can't even properly explain that resulted in daykills.

The days HAVE gone well, we've been burying all the red checks.

[FM-Is that a leaf]

The days HAVE gone well, we've been burying all the red checks.

Well, perhaps I am pessimistic, but I mostly see a laundry list of townies in the graveyard and mostly mislynches and confusion. Are you saying you're above all of this?

[FM-CBI Agent]

Well, perhaps I am pessimistic, but I mostly see a laundry list of townies in the graveyard and mostly mislynches and confusion. Are you saying you're above all of this?

Welcome to KRC, where the roles are made up and the rules don't matter.

And no, I'm not above all of it, what, am I supposed to stop random day kills and the scum night killings? You know how we do that?
BY BURYING SCUM.

[FM-CBI Agent]

We've been doing pretty well all things considered

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Welcome to KRC, where the roles are made up and the rules don't matter.

And no, I'm not above all of it, what, am I supposed to stop random day kills and the scum night killings? You know how we do that?
BY BURYING SCUM.

Okayyy.... Who's scum to bury, then? You seem confident and not confused, so you probably have updated reads, right?

[FM-CBI Agent]

Lynching Myopia is safest bet. No idea if scum has ability to heal or if they have antidotes

[FM-CBI Agent]

If we mislynch and myopia somehow happens to be town, then scum might be able to obtain majority.

[FM-Is that a leaf]

If we mislynch and myopia somehow happens to be town, then scum might be able to obtain majority.

If we lynch Myopia and townies die overnight, we might just lose too. And I don't see a world where Earless is town here.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Lynching Myopia is safest bet. No idea if scum has ability to heal or if they have antidotes

Yeah, you're scum.

That's unfortunate.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Tess was scum. They were tailored.

Artiste claims to have a role that tailors.

This seems very 1+1 to me.

[FM-CBI Agent]

Tess was scum. They were tailored.

Artiste claims to have a role that tailors.

This seems very 1+1 to me.

Scum with a miller? Seems kinda, I don't know, redundant?

[FM-CBI Agent]

I like my theory about the order priority better

IF ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ IT

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Scum with a miller? Seems kinda, I don't know, redundant?

I like my theory about the order priority better

IF ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ IT

I haven't seen it, where is it lol
That being said...

ROLES ARE NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! !!!!!!! If you believe that, you might as well say that a town with a death tailor makes no sense and that Earless is therefore scum.

[FM-CBI Agent]

JESUS CHRIST

[FM-CBI Agent]

You spam the page and everyone fucking loses their god damn minds.
You put all your shit in a spoiler tag to keep people from malding about it and they don't read your shit

[FM-ohno]

hello.

im passing here before i go to bed

to say

cbi scum

goodbye

[FM-Chad Knight]

Scum with a miller? Seems kinda, I don't know, redundant?

Triad that appears mafia. That's not redundant. That's just a great meme. Lag would do that.

[FM-Chad Knight]

You're a 6 man scum team.

Kitty + Inco + Pain + Tess + Artiste + CBI

That makes sense to me. Why are you not part of this team?

[FM-CBI Agent]

You're a 6 man scum team.

Kitty + Inco + Pain + Tess + Artiste + CBI

That makes sense to me. Why are you not part of this team?

Six.
Where are you getting that number?

[FM-Earless Artiste]

So what you're saying is... I'm bussing my teammate myopia? Myopia is scum lol

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Scum with a miller? Seems kinda, I don't know, redundant?

I like my theory about the order priority better

IF ANYONE BOTHERED TO READ IT

Now that I have read it, I conclude that both theories are not mutually exclusive... and that you're probably right. That's the best explanation. Because I definetly agree that "I am town" is terribly unambiguous (and if host deems it ambiguous, the dead might as well deem "death" to be ambiguous because they aren't physically dead IRL and start posting lol).

[FM-Is that a leaf]

You're a 6 man scum team.

Kitty + Inco + Pain + Tess + Artiste + CBI

That makes sense to me. Why are you not part of this team?

That would make the game 16v6v1v1. Doesn't that feel a little town-favored?

[FM-Earless Artiste]

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[FM-Chad Knight]

Six.
Where are you getting that number?

Addition. There are six people I think are scum.

So what you're saying is... I'm bussing my teammate myopia? Myopia is scum lol

Myopia can be town and be absolutely dogshit at the game. Myopia can also be 3p, which I consider to be just as likely. Which ties into my next point:

That would make the game 16v6v1v1. Doesn't that feel a little town-favored?

You're right. It does.

I think there are likely multiple other 3ps alive.

[FM-Earless Artiste]

if we're discussing the realm that there is both mafia and triad, unless you're saying there's 4 triad and 2 mafia, or im bussing myopia, or myopia is not scum... then clearly im legit

[FM-Chad Knight]

if we're discussing the realm that there is both mafia and triad, unless you're saying there's 4 triad and 2 mafia, or im bussing myopia, or myopia is not scum... then clearly im legit

I'm discussing the realm where we aren't in multiball and all of you are triad together.

I'm saying myopia is either an independent scum or is garbage town.

[FM-Earless Artiste]

Myopia can be town and be absolutely dogshit at the game. Myopia can also be 3p, which I consider to be just as likely. Which ties into my next point:

yeah but thats what im saying... clearly myopia and I aren't aligned and unless you believe me to be a neut, then I can't be scum... regardless if I left out about my death tailor part in my role... that shit is so anti town, Its basically useless

[FM-Earless Artiste]

I'm discussing the realm where we aren't in multiball and all of you are triad together.

I'm saying myopia is either an independent scum or is garbage town.

lmfao... wut

[FM-Chad Knight]

yeah but thats what im saying... clearly myopia and I aren't aligned and unless you believe me to be a neut, then I can't be scum... regardless if I left out about my death tailor part in my role... that shit is so anti town, Its basically useless

You SPECIFICALLY tried to leave out the death tailor portion of your role in order to appear more towny. For that, you die today. That is not a footnote in this game. It's not a small issue. This is non-negotiable to me. I will not be convinced otherwise.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Is there anyone else alive who has questions about why Artiste is scum?

[FM-CBI Agent]

You're a 6 man scum team.

Kitty + Inco + Pain + Tess + Artiste + CBI

That makes sense to me. Why are you not part of this team?

So like, what, I'm supposed to have had bussed and advocated for the lynch of three of my teammates? Seems a bit excessive to bus three of your teammates in a blind setup.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Is there anyone else alive who has questions about why Artiste is scum?

If any of you need me to ask, I am also taking questions from people who are dead too.

[FM-Earless Artiste]

You SPECIFICALLY tried to leave out the death tailor portion of your role in order to appear more towny. For that, you die today. That is not a footnote in this game. It's not a small issue. This is non-negotiable to me. I will not be convinced otherwise.

I mean, if thats the case... I apologize for my supposed poor judgement... had I realized the role was posted already, I wouldn't have removed it... but anyway, it's another townie lost for you \O/