S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-ohno]

I have.

I think it makes them scum

think about it more carefully

[FM-ohno]

think about it more carefully

you are looking at it the wrong way

[FM-Father and Sun]

I've re read CBI to check OhNo's claim they are ousted triad.

I don't see it as much as you

D1

Votes inconspicuous man (triad), defends pain a lot (triad)

Spoiler : D1 reads :

I don't think Mr. Pain is a good lynch

I'm thinking, it's hard with this many players to make judgements that I feel take in the whole picture, but I'll stand by thinking that Pain is a bad lynch, low hanging fruit.

-unvote

I do hope you'll forgive me for not being very active, other obligations have been taking up mental facilities, been doing my best to keep up.
Here's a small list of some notable slots to me.
I don't like Mr. Pain's lynch, I think they're low hanging fruit.
I think Chad is cool, should at least stick around for now.
I don't like Mr. Bones, coasting with low substance, granted I can't harp on them that much over it because I have been doing much the same.
I think Tesseract is a mystery, and I don't like mysteries.
Inconspicuous Man showed up, made their ten posts and left.

-vote FM-Inconspicuous Man

D2:
Says in only one post to kill Tesseract before Inconspicuous man.

Spoiler : D2 reads :

anyways I'm caught up

Spoiler : wowie look at this it's a multiquote post put in spoilers tags i sure do hope other players notice this and realize it's a good way to "catch up" without cluttering the thread or making an unnecessarily long post that increases the size of a page by 30% :

Okay.


1. Don't like the chad knight train.
2. I can't remember if your responding to something from day 1 or day 2.
3. how is chad knight outed scum?



We take 1 for 1 trades, I don't see a universe where losing comrade is the worst thing in the world. Hell, it was something I was contemplating near the end of day 1, based pretty much off of activity.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that tesseract was being anti-town.





Oh boy can't wait to see how you defend yourself



I didn't visit anyone last night.



We need more content, more evidence of you doing something for town, even if we were to disregard the red check on you, you'd likely still be on the chopping block.



Where does it say that scum can't be sheriffs?
Either way I'm inclined to believe your town for now, and thus your check is likely valid.



I'd wish you luck today although from what I read I'd say you don't need it, you seem to be doing quite well.



I think that's fair although somewhat annoying considering there are other players (myself included) who feel obligated to read
Every.
Single.
Post.



See my last response for you.



Jesus wept.
You say "it is not an option for me to post a single sentence like that" is this the result of a role ability, posting restriction, are you blackmailed? You never did formally answer my question on day 1 about whether the quality of post or quantity of post affects you.



It's very tempting.



This is the way.




No.



I mean inco is a red check, logical.



Then why didn't I die when I voted you day 1, hmm?




Ah this must be the PQManuever, I think.




In what world do we not lynch non-towns?



So Comrade = non group scum, inco = scum? Sounds like a 1 to 1 trade here at worst and a 2 for 1 at best, makes the deal even sweeter.

I was hoping that was going to be most substantial. Anyways I also did an ISO on tesseract and they're kind of consistent? I don't see an discernable pattern other than they are posting more than one sentence per post, and that they tend to be long sentences.

I'll be honest I've been lurking and sticking my head in the sand since I really didn't like how purple and tesseract were interacting.

From a mechanical standpoint I think I like tesseract's lynch? inco has been on my shit list since day 1.
Worst case scenarios for each:
1.) We lynch Tesseract, we lose a townie, voting power, and a role blocker, who has an unverifiable alignment if their miller claim is to be believed.
2.) We lynch inco, worse case scenario we lose two towns since comrade and inco are apparently lovers.
3.) We lynch purple, worse case is that their claim is accurate, and we lose a powerful investigative role.

Best case scenario for each:
1.) We lynch tesseract, scum loses a role blocker with extra voting power.
2.) We lynch inco, we get two scum for the price of one. (However I'd also bet that if they both were scum they wouldn't really be lovers) Likely we'd trade 1 for 1 scum.
3.) We lynch purple, scum loses an investigative role.

There isn't a world where we lynch purple first, so we can verify by lynching inco, the scummy player who is allegedly triad, and who is allegedly a lover with comrade, whom I have no strong read on at the moment.
or we lynch tesseract, the powerwolf (lol) who has extra voting power, who claims to be able to roleblock, is a self proclaimed "important town member", and who purple claims lied about being town.

Lynching inco is at worst 2 for 1, unless tesseract's ramblings are right about purple potentially being a disguiser or something awful, in which case we could lose TWO town members.
I think we lynch tesseract here, the math seems better.

-vote FM-Tesseract

Spoiler : multiquotes in a spoiler, look it up :

oh my god.

So to recap we have what, four investigative claims?
1.) Purple's lie detector/ alignment checker
2.) Mr. Pain role cop'd something
3.) Myopia's claim (I think it's alignment checker but I've been mostly skimming through their posts rather than actually reading them)
4.) It's something has a risky alignment check stapled onto their gadget role.

Killing tesseract and having them flip solves purple AND inconspicuous.
Killing either It's something or Kitty Cat solves the other.

If we are to take EVERYTHING that our investigatives claim at face value then we know there's a triad faction, mafia faction, and the malevolent A.I solo-faction. Oh boy mulitball sure is fun.

My reads list, color coordinated for your convenience.

Town:
FM-CBI Agent ooh wee look at me, i put myself at the top of the town list.
FM-Purple Alignment cop with a good hit on triad inco, claimed lie detector role with a positive on tesseract.
FM-Bizarro Pepsi Shot a triad in broad daylight
FM-Its SOMETHING Outed their role and outed a triad
FM-Blue Beard It's a rare breed of player that's willing to both sacrifice themselves and attempt to hold town hostage in order to shoot someone, whilst also claiming some form of tracker, you don't usually see this level of self sacrificing from scum.
FM-Is that a leaf Got shot by four unclaimed shots, if that isn't scum trying to get rid of someone then I don't know what is.
FM-Father and Sun Puzzle solver role that's generally been helpful
FM-Chad Knight Investigative claim, feels good, mostly gut read.
FM-Mr Pain This slot has done a little bit of independent analysis, seems honest and quick to post. Weakest solid town read.
FM-Myopia This slot is probably town but I want them to die anyways.
FM-Dark Unicorn Haven't decisively put this one in a box yet, but I'm leaning town on them.

Null:
FM-ohno soft claim vig, not sure what to think about this slot, an amount of independent analysis, but I can't really get a good read on them.
FM-Forsaken Bones Kind of fence sitty? Not entirely sure what to think about this slot "whose ISO is unimpressive", want to see more from them.
Scum:
FM-Mafia Bro Claimed to shoot purple before they claimed invest, needs "laughs" for some reason, little independent analysis, inclined to scum lean them.
FM-Demonic TP "the anti-town faction", not sure if it's TMI. Has a hard on for leaf, put kitty on their town list, put purple on their scum list. Inclined to scum lean
FM-Earless Artiste Worlds biggest lurker, hasn't posted any reads, hasn't done any analysis, they're on the chopping block for today.
FM-Mr Bones Is almost without a doubt the frog fractions role, and has not been interacting or doing any amount of scum hunting, is definitely a neutral or scum
FM-Tesseract Confirmed alignment cop with a claimed positive on tesseract lying about the post "I am town", miller claim is probably unverifiable, I was never a fan of this slot. When do we not lynch here?

[FM-Father and Sun]

I'm finding me and OhNo not seeing eye to eye on much today

[FM-Father and Sun]

OK next question:

Who wants to claim visiting me over the last 2 days?

I know two of you have

[FM-ohno]

OK next question:

Who wants to claim visiting me over the last 2 days?

I know two of you have

not me

[FM-ohno]

I've re read CBI to check OhNo's claim they are ousted triad.

I don't see it as much as you

D1

Votes inconspicuous man (triad), defends pain a lot (triad)

Spoiler : D1 reads :

D2:
Says in only one post to kill Tesseract before Inconspicuous man.

Spoiler : D2 reads :

also just saying

if im going to buss a teammate

its the one that linked with a town

[FM-Purple]

@FM-Purple do you have an orb?

I can't for the life of me find it anywhere in the game!!!

I didnt receive any items today nope.

[FM-Chad Knight]

I’d like a massclaim as we move forward today.

I’m the Pincushion- from Forsaken Bones’ rolecard. It’s how I knew Mafia Bro made the day kill on purple day 2, and how I know Dark Unicorn has visited me twice now.

[FM-Purple]

maf does not exist

see obv town demonic iso

Yah i will after breakfast, i will not leave off to work without doing so.

[FM-Chad Knight]

I’d like a massclaim as we move forward today.

I’m the Pincushion- from Forsaken Bones’ rolecard. It’s how I knew Mafia Bro made the day kill on purple day 2, and how I know Dark Unicorn has visited me twice now.

My running theory today is that Dark Unicorn has been using a scum factional ability on me.

[FM-Purple]

3) Once Purple lie detects Tess they go on a massive review of Tess' posts (which they didn't do for Inconspicuous Man, there other red check). They do this again with Mr Pain. BUT out of all of this we don't see any actual reads

Check Inco ISO and tell me if you can develop a read from there, i ISOed the slot, but it told me nothing, he lolcatted.

[FM-Purple]

ISO'd Purple to check out what he's up to.

Some conclusions:
1) Definitely not triad x1000. Not just the stuff about who he's peeked, but also, he was advocating for a MrPain death D1

2) Pre his lie detector on Tess, Purple was claiming information on Tess that showed Tess was bad (see spoilers below.) Purple then got Tess to do a lie detector having said this- and has been pushing that agenda all game. I think its very convenient that Purple started by saying "I have info on Tess" then got Tess to lie detect. And Tess happened to be the only Miller. And Purple didn't shoot them.
My theory is Purple found out Tess' role (some form of role check from someone in his team), and used it to create this lie detect fallacy.

3) Once Purple lie detects Tess they go on a massive review of Tess' posts (which they didn't do for Inconspicuous Man, there other red check). They do this again with Mr Pain. BUT out of all of this we don't see any actual reads

4) Purple has claimed the ability to lie detect; one shot vig; be unblockable; kill visitors; have a bus drive and have a peek. He used all of these in 2 phases. This seems wildly OP.

5) Purple doesn't really out or push scum reads other than his checks- until I asked him directly today.

Spoiler : D1 Purple claims a "don't visit me or i'll kill you" ability :

Has anyone visited purple? I think Blue Beards followed them but thats it



This is where I think purple is scummiest:

He tells us he knows Tess is bad- then gets them to do a lie detector. In my theory, he found out Purple's had a Miller, made up/used a lie detector knowing the result, then, decided not to shoot them because it would take out a miss chop AND they could shoot a villager (Mafia Bro)

D2 Claim's has information on Tess that shows they are bad.

Purple- what was this undisclosed information?

Spoiler : D2 Claims has a one shot day lie detectors
:

Spoiler : D2 pre doubting Tess' miller claim :

Spoiler : And that lie detector goes through miller :

Spoiler : Pushes lie detector on Tess! :

Spoiler : Claims an unintiferable role :

END

On to other claims and stuff

Spoiler : Claims a N2 One Shot Vig :

Spoiler : Mr purples poision claims :

Have we flipped a day thief?

Spoiler : Claims he DIDN'T shoot his redcheck because he thought OhNo would kill Tess :

Spoiler : D2 someone shot purple :

Did we ever find out who?

Spoiler : Purple says they never vote outside a red check...but will happily shoot one is weird :

Mr Purple claims he scum read mafiabro and thats why he shot him. I've just read the entire ISO and Purple never actually says this once- he has back and forth with Purple, but it was very omgussy
[SPOILER]

[/SPOILER]

Spoiler : Purlpe claims he has ANOTHER lie detector :

Spoiler : First out and out scum read that Purple follows up on :

This is a load of bullshit but I believe you believe this, this does not look fabricated.

[FM-Purple]

Who did myopia scum check?

If Mafia exists, and has same checks as triads, then a lot of these checks on triads can just be written off as that mechanic

He said he green checked someone, I dont remember who now, I have to check

[FM-Purple]

I'm convinced Purple is scum.

They've claimed so much stuff in their role I don't believe its possible, and, have made some really anti town moves.

The formatting on that is horrible, sorry

I'm town. I made poor choices that I didn't believe they were poor choices back then. But as soon as you see my role, you will see that I have not played anti-town, I just executed my abilities the best way I could.

You also sus me for having a lot of actions that are incredibly powerful, go and check some of the flips and tell me with a straight face that they are not more powerful than what I claimed.

[FM-Purple]

Hmm you are right.

Maybe the faction is called Werewolves or something though?

Its very clearly highlighted that mafia is in quotation marks meaning the name of the faciotn

You are death tunneled onto me, go take a walk and analyze me holistically with a clear head.

[FM-Purple]

with that being said, i think your case is townie.

you can be town for that

We agree on that

[FM-Purple]

Why do you think he's town?

Do you not think its weird he went from:
- I know something bad about tess
- tess I'm going to lie detector you, AND I get through miller's
- tess is a liar so not town
- I'm only voting red checks
- I'm going to shoot someone who I've not outted a scum read on instead of my Scum check


AND it so happens the person they lie detector just so happens to be the only miller.

I guess.... purple- what was the info that you said you had on tess that kicked this all off?

Bruh, where exactly did I claim I knew something bad about Tess?

I knew nothing, the reason I suspected Tess was because he discredited my check on Inco, the fool actually tried to save triad lol by calling them a neutral, like they did call a neutral Mr Bones.

[FM-Purple]

HARD CLAIM

Alignment: Town
Role: The hero that the city deserves, not the one it needs!

Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

Win Condition:
Eliminate all anti-town factions.

Rolecard:

Ultimate Bus Driver:

Target 2 players, Swapping them for the night
All actions targeting a player will instead hit the other player.

Explained:

Player A submits a track action on Player B
Player C submits a vig shot action on Player D

You swap Player B and Player D

As a result:

Player A tracks Player D
Player C kills Player B

If for any reason both targets target each other instead, their alignments are announced publicly in the thread.

This action is multitaskable with other actions in this role and is the only one that is multitaskable.

Lie To Me! I Dare you!:

Also, you may twice per game, during the day quote a statement made by a player and send this to the game host to learn whether the statement is true or not.

The statement must be 100% confirmable by the host, it cannot be ambiguous nor contain whole sentences with multiple truths and/or lies.

This action will not render false results and cannot be used two days consecutively.

Hero Shooter!

Hero shooters get a bad reputation because they often screw shit over! But you are destined to get it right! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

You are a 1-shot Night Vigilante with a few conditions:

1) You can only shoot a player that has voted you two days in a row.
2) You can only shoot if you didn't end voting that player the previous day.
3) If the target is not town aligned, both you and your target die.
4) If the target is town they die and you live.

The World's Best Detective!

Once per game during the night you may visit a player to find out their exact alignment.

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

You may choose to sacrifice at least one other action to activate this one during the day. If you have no other actions available, you cannot activate this one.
During the day, post one letter in:

Size 7

If you die that day by any means, every player whose user names start or end with that letter will blow the hell up and die as well.

[FM-Purple]

I don't intent to use my last ability obviously.

[FM-Purple]

Oh, and Purple's got some explaining to do with his role, mister "my lie detector bypasses miller" I kind of want to just park my vote on him because of that. Is there a world where purple busses his triad for extra credit and gets a lynch off? Tesseract survived a long time despite having a form of red check on him since day 2. Ugh, I don't know what to make of this at all

ISO is a thing, if I keep explaining it I will sound like a broken record. I live off to work in an hour, I wanna out reads before then.

[FM-Purple]

I shot myopia (didn't die, and not with a blowdart) so according to my role (which is only successful against town, myopia is scum

Huh? This looks a lot like my vig action.

[FM-Purple]

But with so much shit ive seen flipped, nothing surprises me anymore

[FM-Purple]

I did contemplate shooting purple to avenge tesseract but I thought myopia would be better. I wish I did shoot purple though as that would probably advance solving things

You hero shotted too?

Do you by any chance got the ability i claimed? Did you copycat me or something?

Wait, it cant be the same, i never voted you now that i think about it. Did Myopia voted you two days in a row?

[FM-Purple]

-vote Myopia

[FM-Purple]

That fool was fueling the fire between Tess and I lol

[FM-Purple]

Wait

Myopia is poisoned. We let him die

-vote Unvote

[FM-Purple]

But scum may have an antidote

-vote Myopia

[FM-Purple]

Time to look for spew

Yummy yummy yummy

[FM-Purple]

How tf is incon 3p and not scum
How is 3p good to stay alive

Myopia looks unaligned with Inco here or they hard bussed

[FM-Purple]

Im skimming tesses posts
Im sooo tired
Not gonna vote inco i think, i mean thats a conf town hanging on him
I would rather lynch tess
If u believe one red check u can believe the other one by purlpe

Hard buss it is. Weird how he backtracks from let's yeet Inco to not voting Inco.

[FM-Purple]

At sod i sr purple
Now i believe jim
Whats happening with me

This spews me town

[FM-Purple]

[Also consider all other recent posts by Myopia]

... Jester mechanics were considered "sharp", weren't they? So that means we don't have to fear them much, right?

- Strange mention of triad (not mafia, triad)
- Quite obviously dysfunctional grammar, punctuation, and spacing
- Defense of said dysfunctional speech that does not involve "I am forced to do this" nor hint at it
- Spam
- Lack of solviness + generation of distractions

-vote FM-Myopia

This looks good for Leaf

[FM-Purple]

Get some mutherfuccing grip or ill buy me a dart for your ass. Playing with those fuccing oxford english teachers with their ego bigger than their balls is awkward

Myopia freaks out and goes aggro on Leaf. Leaf is town.

[FM-Purple]

I have to go. I'll continue after I leave

Unvoting so there are no early hammers.

-vote Unvote

[FM-Purple]

I have to go. I'll continue after I leave from work tonight

Unvoting so there are no early hammers.

-vote Unvote

Correction

[FM-ohno]

Correction

purple

myopia

is unironically

poisoned by me

move your fucking vote

[FM-ohno]

also CBI is blatant triad

[FM-Earless Artiste]

@FM-Earless Artiste why did you hide death tailor?

Few reasons,
1- obviously didn't notice that the role had been revealed by a flip
2- it's unrelevant and anti town, therefore I didn't want it even a part of the discussion
3- I never intend to use it (given it's anti town)
4- I have not used it

[FM-CBI Agent]

Spoiler : Here's a big post that's in spoiler tags to defend your baby eyes :

Rolecard:
You have unleashed a telepathic brain maggot into the town's water supply and it has attached itself to another player.
You don't know who they are, but you will know nearly everything they know.

Information you will receive:
- Their role
- Their rolecard
- The names of any private chats they are in
- Any feedback they receive

Information you will not receive:
- Their name
- Their alignment
- The names of any factional chats they are in
- Messages sent in private or factional chats


Bizaro's role

Dark Unicorn was infected by a parasite.

This seems like Bizaro's parasite.

Bizzaro got killed.

So I really hate the fact that bizzaro didn't give us a last will or anything about what dark unicorn has been doing, assuming a rational and competent player I would imagine that because they didn't want to reveal anything about dark unicorn, that means they have to be a valuable town asset? I'm going to double check their ISO in a bit because I remember someone complaining about being vanilla townized

YOU DID NOT GET ANY FALSE RESULTS. I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY TESS TECHNICALLY LIED. IF TOWN WANTS TO IGNORE ME AFTER IM PROVED RIGHT THEN ROFL

If the host wants to argue semantics with it's players then I'll take it but to assume you're correct we have to assume that the host is using your interpretation of how the lie detection works and what really constitutes "truth". TBH I'd argue that tesseract was telling truth, which would make purple a liar, but for what reason? I don't really see the world where purple busses his triad (who let's be honest, probably wasn't going to be that valuable a player in the first place). But on the other hand, it would make a lot of sense if triad was a lot bigger than we thought. Since day two we've been running on the assumption that this game is multi-ball, assuming that bizzaro's kidnapper was telling the truth and has not decided to come forward yet, then we have to assume that was neutral, right? Wouldn't triad benefit from the illusion that there's two competing scum factions instead of one larger one? I'm rambling at this point here time to move on to the next quote.

and by demonic said so

i mean

"there is no mafia'

I guess I could've put most of my rambling here, yeah, I'm of the opinion that the "Criminal network" ability was a red herring, and I personally want y'all to suck it if I'm right, which I think is becoming the likely outcome here.

I'm ISO'ing Purple atm and found this.

So far in Kittys list:
1) 1 team mate & 2 villagers in green. 1 unknown
2) 2 green's and 1 unknown in reds.

Rule of three in the bottom may suggest Myopia is scum

Yeah, I agree, I think Myopia is scum as well.
So as of right now, we know that Myopia is slated to die during the night, but what if scum has an antidote to keep them alive? If there is just one large scum faction then I'm worried about losing majority. We just lost four town and a true neutral in the span of one cycle, statistically, if there was two scum factions of sizes "3-4" then we would have seen at least one flip by the other faction, right?

If you want to accept the universe where we have two scum factions of size 3-4, then we're REALLY CLOSE to losing majority.
If you want to accept the universe where we have one large scum faction, then we could be anywhere between good shape to dead tomorrow.
We might just have to lynch Myopia as the safest path.

This is staright up triad

Pushing for the one non triad among the red checks at every turn with posts like "if it comes down to mr purple and tess, i say we bury tess" and stuff like that

softed defended pain on day 1

this is unironically obv triad. if you wont kill it today, i will kill it tonight

Yeah I've been top town reading purple up until tesseract's flip, of course I'd be trying to get rid of our earliest red check from day 2. I fucked up, but you know what, I was also on myopia on day one, whereas you've been on exactly one triad train, Pain's, who happened to commit seppuku because he couldn't be bothered to defend himself at all. I was right in thinking that slot was low hanging fruit because they were absolute shit. Now quit with the scum painting and find someone else to think about.

CBI literally never pushed inco what?

CBI was pretty much doing nothing except softing to go tesseract

Why would I be pushing the outed red check?
Like, okay, look at the triad flips so far, Kitty kat, mr pain, and inco. Two out of those three slots both did absolute shit and just happened to be red checks, why would I bother in pushing a red check that has contributed nothing? They either get lynched or night killed, no need to push information out of a slot which provided absolutely nothing in this first place.

Ohno this is what I was talking about.

CBI Agent did vote to kill INconspuicuos man here but did soft Mr Pain

Yeah, I was correct about them being low hanging fruit, I tend to think that players that are scum put more effort into their games, I was proven wrong twice in this game.

Purple's not a triad, so if there is only one scum faction then I'm probably wrong on Purple.

I just think they are awfully anti-town

I, ugh, think your right? I'm still trying to wrap my head around purple's behavior and his claim, does it mechanically interact with tesseract's miller or not specifically.

Why do you think he's town?

Do you not think its weird he went from:
- I know something bad about tess
- tess I'm going to lie detector you, AND I get through miller's
- tess is a liar so not town
- I'm only voting red checks
- I'm going to shoot someone who I've not outted a scum read on instead of my Scum check


AND it so happens the person they lie detector just so happens to be the only miller.

I guess.... purple- what was the info that you said you had on tess that kicked this all off?

I'm starting to think purple just misplayed? I can kinda see where they're coming from. If I had all those abilities I'd like to generate as much impact as possible by targeting multiple people with them. But like, they're still inconsistent, and whilst humans are inconsistent, scum tend to be just a tad more inconsistent.

cbi confirmed triad

Where does it say I am triad? Did host tell somebody I am triad? Did I say "I am triad"? No, unless someone is punking me I'm pretty confident that the answer to the latter two are no.

OK next question:

Who wants to claim visiting me over the last 2 days?

I know two of you have

Wasn't me.

I’d like a massclaim as we move forward today.

I’m the Pincushion- from Forsaken Bones’ rolecard. It’s how I knew Mafia Bro made the day kill on purple day 2, and how I know Dark Unicorn has visited me twice now.

Have you been getting feedback of any sort from dark unicorn?

HARD CLAIM

Alignment: Town
Role: The hero that the city deserves, not the one it needs!

Factional Abilities:
Town is the uninformed majority and receives no factional abilities.

Win Condition:
Eliminate all anti-town factions.

Rolecard:

Ultimate Bus Driver:

Target 2 players, Swapping them for the night
All actions targeting a player will instead hit the other player.

Explained:

Player A submits a track action on Player B
Player C submits a vig shot action on Player D

You swap Player B and Player D

As a result:

Player A tracks Player D
Player C kills Player B

If for any reason both targets target each other instead, their alignments are announced publicly in the thread.

This action is multitaskable with other actions in this role and is the only one that is multitaskable.

Who have you been bussing?

Lie To Me! I Dare you!:

Also, you may twice per game, during the day quote a statement made by a player and send this to the game host to learn whether the statement is true or not.

Seems consistent with what "quote a post" roles we've seen so far.

The statement must be 100% confirmable by the host, it cannot be ambiguous nor contain whole sentences with multiple truths and/or lies.

"am·big·u·ous /amˈbiɡyo͞oəs/
adjective
(of language) open to more than one interpretation; having a double meaning."
I'd really like to imagine that lag isn't that much of a hard ass about it, and I'm pretty sure the meaning of the statement "I am town" is known and understood within the community.

This action will not render false results and cannot be used two days consecutively.

and Tesseract's role

-Miller - You will appear as guilty to any investigations.

Unstoppable force vs immovable object eh? What does lag say about paradoxical feedback?

What is the OoO?
I refer to the OoO I use as "Paradox Avoidant Simultaneous Execution" meaning all actions happen simultaneously - unless a paradox would occur. If a paradox would occur then the paradox inducing roles are executed in a predetermined order instead.

In 99% of cases this functions exactly like a normal OoO, and you should probably stop reading here.

The major area where this differs from a traditional OoO is that roles that alter the execution of other roles do not have a strict hierarchy.

For example, imagine a setup with a Roleblocker and a Bus Driver. With a traditional OoO one of them has to go first, if the Roleblocker goes first then the Bus Driver can never protect other players from role blocks because the RB goes first in the OoO. If the Bus Driver goes first, then the Roleblocker can never stop the Bus Driver from swapping. But with simultaneous execution neither role acts as a trump card over the other role.

Spoiler : Examples :

Roleblocker blocks Player A
Bus Driver swaps Players A and B

Result: The Bus Driver redirects the block from Player A to Player B.

Roleblocker blocks Bus Driver
Bus Driver swaps Players A and B

Result: The swap is blocked

Spoiler : More Complicated Examples :

The way the simultaneous execution technically works is:
- Iterate over all possible action orderings (With n actions there are n! possible orderings)
- An action ordering is inconsistent if it results in a retrospective contradiction (e.g a role did their action but then later got roleblocked, therefore they shouldn't have been able to do that action)
- Ignore inconsistent orderings.
- For consistent orderings, add the outcome of that ordering to the set of valid outcomes.
- If there is exactly one valid outcome, use that outcome. If there are either 0 or 2+ valid outcomes, then a paradox occurred and the roles responsible for the paradox will be executed based on a predetermined hierarchy

Roleblocker blocks Player A
Bus Driver swaps themselves with Player A

Result: If the Bus Driver were to go first, then they would swap the roleblock onto themselves which is inconsistent because they already did their action. If the roleblocker goes first, then there is no inconsistency and Player A is roleblocked. So the effective OoO of Roleblocker -> Bus Driver is used

Roleblocker blocks Bus Driver
Bus Driver swaps themselves with Player A

Result: If the Roleblocker goes first, then the Bus Driver can't swap. This is a consistent outcome and is added to the set of valid outcomes. If the Bus Driver goes first, then the swap is redirected to Player A. This is also a valid outcome and is added to the set of valid outcomes. As the set of valid outcomes has two different solutions, a strict OoO is used instead and what happens depends on which role was given priority during set-up creation.

Spoiler : Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here :

Bus Driver 1 swaps Bus Driver 2 with Player A
Bus Driver 2 swaps Bus Driver 1 with Player A

If Bus Driver 1 goes first, then:
1 -> 2
2 -> A
A -> 1

If Bus Driver 2 goes first, then:
1 -> A
2 -> 1
A -> 2

As there are two valid outcomes, a strict OoO is used and whichever bus driver was given priority during setup creation goes first. For the sake of example we can assume Bus Driver 1 has priority so the resulting outcome is:
1 -> 2
2 -> A
A -> 1

Same as the previous example, but add a roleblocker blocking Bus Driver 1.
Roleblocker blocks Bus Driver 1
Bus Driver 1 swaps Bus Driver 2 with Player A
Bus Driver 2 swaps Bus Driver 1 with Player A

There are 6 action execution orders:
1) R -> 1 -> 2 results in a paradox because Bus Driver 1 is blocked, but then later swapped, meaning retrospectively they shouldn't have been blocked. This is an inconsistent execution and is ruled out.
2) R -> 2 -> 1 has the same result as 1
3) 1 -> R -> 2 results in Bus Driver 1 getting to use their action, but then later being roleblocked, which is inconsistent, and this execution is ruled out.
4) 1 -> 2 -> R results in Bus Driver 2 getting roleblocked, but this is inconsistent because bus driver 2 already got to use their action, and this execution is ruled out.
5) 2 -> R -> 1 results in Player A getting roleblocked, and Bus Driver 2 going before Bus Driver 1. The execution is consistent and so the outcome is added to the set of valid outcomes.
6) 2 -> 1 -> R has the same result as #5

There is only one valid outcome in the set of valid outcomes, so the action ordering of either 5 or 6 is used to produce the result where:
1 -> A
2 -> 1
A -> 2

And Player A gets roleblocked.

Notice that the only thing we changed from the previous example is we added a roleblock action into the mix. The roleblocked blocked neither bus driver, and yet the execution of the bus drivers' actions flipped. The existence of the roleblocker pruned the set of valid solutions and coerced the OoO into a different outcome despite the roleblock itself not actually hitting either bus driver.

Spoiler : An OoO resolution that runs in O(n!) ?? :

While the theoretical upper bound for the run time of this style of OoO resolution is O(n!) the search space can be greatly pruned by only considering actions that can affect other actions. Build a digraph of manipulative actions and then search for cycles on the constructed digraph. Disconnected components do not affect each other and can be executed separately. Acyclic connected components form a tree and can be rooted and then topologically sorted in order to determine their execution order. Only cyclic components no the digraph require O(n!) consideration, since the occurrence of cyclic components is very rare, and the ones that do occur are usually of a low order, the actual computation of the OoO is not O(n!) in practice.

Other than learning that Lag is some sort of math hobbyist I think what we can gleam from this is that's it's based off of role priority here. There is the same wording with both of the roles "this action will not render false results" and "you will appear as guilty", so I think role priority is the answer here, and tesseract simply had a higher role priority than purple, assuming purple is telling the truth with their claim lol.

Hero Shooter!

Hero shooters get a bad reputation because they often screw shit over! But you are destined to get it right! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Pft, yeah sure bud.

You are a 1-shot Night Vigilante with a few conditions:

1) You can only shoot a player that has voted you two days in a row.
2) You can only shoot if you didn't end voting that player the previous day.
3) If the target is not town aligned, both you and your target die.
4) If the target is town they die and you live.

Looking back at the end of days, mafia bro does fit all those conditions whereas no one else did.

The World's Best Detective!

Once per game during the night you may visit a player to find out their exact alignment.

Tell me again, why you decided to tell everyone you had a scum check on inco yet decided to withhold the specific alignment until later?

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

You may choose to sacrifice at least one other action to activate this one during the day. If you have no other actions available, you cannot activate this one.
During the day, post one letter in:

Size 7

If you die that day by any means, every player whose user names start or end with that letter will blow the hell up and die as well.

Technically every user name starts with F if you just wanted to end it here.

Few reasons,
1- obviously didn't notice that the role had been revealed by a flip
2- it's unrelevant and anti town, therefore I didn't want it even a part of the discussion
3- I never intend to use it (given it's anti town)
4- I have not used it

lol

[FM-CBI Agent]

I thought you read the post where I said I was a VT-equivalent?
It's literally not my fault, and if you think hard enough there's a clear possibility for why I'm stuck with no special abilities and no special info, because SOMEBODY decided to do a boo-boo.

Granted that boo-boo was a net positive for us but on the other hand extremely annoying for me.

Here it is.
Bizzaro complained about being vanilla town, so did dark role block him or something?
I think Bizzaro not having anything in his last will doesn't clear DU at all

[FM-Myopia]

I think earless artist is scum

[FM-Earless Artiste]

I think earless artist is scum

Bruh, if my claim ain't right.... then you would know I'm definitely scum 🤣 stop that shit.

[FM-ohno]

I know why bizzaro was vanilla, we talked in trial

[FM-CBI Agent]

I know why bizzaro was vanilla, we talked in trial

What happened?

[FM-Chad Knight]

I think earless artist is scum

Holy fucking...

-vote FM-Myopia

Fuck you. Fuck everything about the way you've played. This is unacceptable.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Anyone considered that Tesseract could've been death tailored?

[FM-ohno]

Holy fucking...

-vote FM-Myopia

Fuck you. Fuck everything about the way you've played. This is unacceptable.

HE IS POISONED

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Uhm. This is such a confusing game lol.

This is stupid, if you think that anyone as wolf would trade 1 for 1 with a townie, go back to play newbie mafia games.

Mafia Bro death tunneled me, he didn't bother to evaluate my red check on Inco or Tess and gave no explanation whatsoever, his play was scummy and I shot him believing he was scum.

I half-buy Purple's defense here, at the very least for now. He seems to have been more wrong than scum. At this point, it is unlikely enough that there is a big Mafia faction that Purple would be a member of. If Purple is not town, he probably isn't Triad either (considering Inconspicuous' demise). I keep in mind that his defense feels fake, though, mainly in the "complaints" (see #4005 " HOW IS MY OWN FAULT! I LIE DETECTED TESS AND I GOT THAT HE LIED!" and #4011 "It didnt feel wrong to me at the time. I had caught or thought I had caught two scum and that I had great reads and I hero shot him and my vig is a hero shot action, so yah, I'm a fucking anti-hero now in a bastard+++ game.").

I'm actually changing my mind as I write this. I don't know. Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[FM-Is that a leaf]

Holy fucking...

-vote FM-Myopia

Fuck you. Fuck everything about the way you've played. This is unacceptable.

I cannot disagree with this. Except that he's poisoned and should never be healed, so there's no point in lynching him. But yes. I have no clue why we haven't lynched him earlier, like damnit lol.

Also, I have re-read CBI's list of reads. I liked it while I was under the assumption Tesseract was definetly scum. But now, it awfully feels like CBI has been surfing on the chaos and has gladly supported mislynches while remaining thoroughly uncontroversial. So

-vote FM-CBI Agent