S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Purple]

in Purple's case they hadn't interacted with me at all to figure out my alignment....presuming they're town.

Pain spews me not aligned with him here, what a piece of shade.

[FM-Purple]

Even Pain knows their argument is extremely weak. Of course they would abandon it asap to stay alive.

Pain goes today.

This looks good for Blue Beard

[FM-Purple]

Let's remain nice. I'm all for pushing him, but insulting him and trying to trigger him won't solve his slot. He might really just be misguided town who got attacked by everybody at the very start of the game and who feels like he has to defend a bad stance now.

This does not good for leaf. Slight AtE and soft defense, maybe.

[FM-Purple]

Well, since you seem so troubled about finding a way out of this I'm done engaging with you for now and my vote remains.

if I flip today I want everyone to look at this and explain how this is a good statement

thank you

This spews Blue Beard not aligned with Pain.

[FM-Purple]

no he hasn't been helpful

he didn't answer my main questions or concerns

just called my plays bad (which he self-admits) and placed double-standards so that he looks at me bad no matter what I do:

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showt...218#post959218

Pain is talking about Blue Beard here. BB is def not aligned with Pain given the treatment.

[FM-Purple]

Was wondering when ITS SOMETHING was going to reveal who he targeted.

-vote FM-Kitty Cat Dance

I would rather trust this then....whatever it is that's going on between Purple/Inco/Tess

This does not make sense. Why buss Kitty to save Inco here? Inco was just a lover with no thread presence, Kitty was their big PR with a lot more presence?

[FM-Purple]

the answer to that should be preety clear or implied in my previous post

I've known ITS SOMETHING's role since n1

what he claims is exactly his role

and since he's making a mafia guess n1 I'm presuming its more likely that he's town than non-town; as wolf he would just risk dying for no good reason lol

unless he got doctor'ed I guess

anyways at least I know for a fact his role

for you or anyone else I can't say the same

What an ace pocket attempt on SOMETHING.

Thanks for spewing me town.

[FM-Purple]

does anyone know why Tess was lie-detector'ed in the first place

I dont have the mental fortitude to read D2 any time soon

Are you and Tess aligned? Were you trying save Tess? not Inco?

[FM-Purple]

Meh.

Games been a series of unfortunate events. Worst of all was that I was legitimately busy most of the time. Hasn't exactly been fun because of that, but nobody can be blamed for that other than myself.

I dont have the time or energy to defend myself from this, and I hope my remaining triad teammates understand that.

Also, yes I did legitimately believe in my argument as being plausibly valid d1. Turns out everyone makes a whole lot more assumptions than I do when I'm town in ?krc, which was a bit of a shock.

Oh and a final note:

Cult is probably a thing (See SOMETHING flip), or its not multiball. If you find Cult is one of the reasons that Triad got their asses kicked then please go kick theirs in kind

Mafia could in theory exist but some of our mafia suspects have either turned out to be not mafia upon criminal network or just simply flipped town. Assuming all fips so far have been unaltered. So it seems to me its just us triads imo.

If nothing else, I wish my role submission wielder good luck. I wondered what you got edited into.

Thanks for the info. Now we know there is more than one triad left and two, would you mind sharing who turned out not to be mafia, this will help us get revenge on the cult for you?

[FM-Purple]

Then again, you may have posted that in anti-spew.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Thanks for the info. Now we know there is more than one triad left and two, would you mind sharing who turned out not to be mafia, this will help us get revenge on the cult for you?

You realize he purposefully worded his post to make it seem like there's multiple additional triad, right? Like, that's not an absentminded slip. That's WIFOM. You're drinking poisoned wine.

[FM-Father and Sun]

Bruh, i remember scum reading Mr Pain on day 1, im good at this game

Lmao same.

I've been pushing him since then and someone kept defending him

[FM-Father and Sun]

Lmao same.

I've been pushing him since then and someone kept defending him

Someone was literally guaranteeing he wasn't a wolf

[FM-Father and Sun]

I think we can change that by doing this

-vote FM-Purple

Let's see your flip then, that should tell us more about what else we are dealing with. My bet is on Mafia with their own Criminal Network ability. And if I am wrong, then I will be outed, right?

Post your rolecard TBH.

@FM-Blue Beard what do you think about shooting the reported triad in Mr Pain and we lynch one of me and Purple? Or you can shoot one of us two and we lynch Mr Pain, either way. You can shoot today (will die afterwards), correct? Will the flip happen during the day if you shoot today?

Y do you want blue beard to die

[FM-Father and Sun]

I'm out all day now pretty much.

Kill pain obvs

Someone peek etc

[FM-Father and Sun]

I'm out all day now pretty much.

Kill pain obvs

Someone peek etc

Sorry. Someone who can try n peak in purple tess

[FM-Demonic TP]

That said, there's about 25 hours left in day, so I'll reveal my check now.
I used an alignment check on Mr. Pain. My result was TRIAD.

You found triad = you kill triad, as I said.

-vote FM-Mr Pain

[FM-Demonic TP]

Tesseract is ALIGNED with the town

Tesseract is a MEMBER of the town

Tessaract is NOT town

do you see what im saying here? The lie detector isint as fool proof as you guys make it to be. Can you really look me in the eye and say that this is NOT something lag would do?

Ahahahahahahahaha...
That can be true, btw. Depending on the host's sense of humor.
Correct phrase is "I am town-aligned", not "I am town".

I still don't like Tesseract plays, but I like his theory about mafia. We know we have more then one anti-town faction (Android flip). Probably we have the mafia. Probably we have the cult. This is not hard for me to believe, it is much harder to believe that there is such a huge amount of invest roles in the setup.

[FM-Demonic TP]

Look at what Pain posted, he is hinting at the cult that they know they exist, holy fucking shit.

Yes, a cult can exist, it's true.
It is also true that the triad is interested in some kind of provocation so that the city starts killing each other.

[FM-Demonic TP]

Now! If anyone is in a neighborhood, you may be in a neighborhood run by the cult leader, he has to neighborize you before attempting to convert you unless of course a different version exists here.

I may have missed something, but I don't remember such a tycoon-cult role or mechanic being revealed in cards after someone's flip.

[FM-Tesseract]

Y do you want blue beard to die

Not that I want them to die, but there are two reasons:
1. Blue Beard should use the ability while he can. His ability is only good for as along as he is alive, and Mafia that I think we have in the game can eliminate him at night before he uses the ability, which would be a shame.
2. To resolve Purple+me. Because, say, Mr Pain is lynched today and Blue Beard is killed at night. Guess who is getting lynched tomorrow? Probably me, and Purple gets away yet again and does more damage with his team.

[FM-Demonic TP]

Yah im convinced we have a cult and by the way a cult is NOT A NEUTRAL! they are an evil faction that grows bigger the more they go undetected!

I agree that we CAN have the cult.
But about some role from some other game that you described, I can’t agree.

[FM-Tesseract]

Nah my friend lol. If you want me to post my whole role card everyone will have to do it.

This is the segment of lie detection action however.

Also, you may twice per game, during the day quote a statement made by a player and send this to the game host to learn whether the statement is true or not.

The statement must be 100% confirmable by the host, it cannot be ambiguous nor contain whole sentences with multiple truths and/or lies.

This action will not render false results and cannot be used two days consecutively.

Prepare for Purple to claim that I flipped green and his LD failed because I made multiple sentences with multiple truths (duplicated sentences, in which I repeated "I am town." many times). Although that is not the same as "whole sentences with multiple truths" that's probably the interpretation that Purple will try to excuse themselves with.

[FM-Purple]

Someone was literally guaranteeing he wasn't a wolf

I did. What player confirms a cop to bury their own teammate? There is mo way i'd believe they are aligned, only people with TMI would.

[FM-Purple]

Prepare for Purple to claim that I flipped green and his LD failed because I made multiple sentences with multiple truths (duplicated sentences, in which I repeated "I am town." many times). Although that is not the same as "whole sentences with multiple truths" that's probably the interpretation that Purple will try to excuse themselves with.

Dude, shut the hell up with your AtE. I lie detected you and you lied period. That's the bottom line and it is obvious that you are scum, you've been focusing on me, you cant tunnel anyone else or you'd spew them.

[FM-Purple]

I agree that we CAN have the cult.
But about some role from some other game that you described, I can’t agree.

Look i cant prove it obviously, but i get to tell you after game that i told you so.

[FM-Purple]

Tesseract is ALIGNED with the town

Tesseract is a MEMBER of the town

Tessaract is NOT town

do you see what im saying here? The lie detector isint as fool proof as you guys make it to be. Can you really look me in the eye and say that this is NOT something lag would do?

Bro, everyone knows what i meant when i forced Tesseract to write that, im sure the host knows and they are not dumb. Why are you fighting hard to avoid a Tess chop.

[FM-Purple]

If i got a false report cause of some semantics bullshit, i will let you kill me, i will not oppose resistance because thanks to that report i wasted a lot of hours trying to get Tess over because of it and i was guaranteed that it will not give me false reports.

[FM-Tesseract]

Dude, shut the hell up with your AtE. I lie detected you and you lied period. That's the bottom line and it is obvious that you are scum, you've been focusing on me, you cant tunnel anyone else or you'd spew them.

Cool story. Go ahead and vote me then. I know that you lied about your lie detector. So why continue "you lied" and "no, you lied"? Go ahead and put your actions where your lying mouth is. Come click me!

[FM-Tesseract]

Oh you did vote me. OK good, thought you were voting Mr Pain. Right on! Let's go baby, let's go! My attorneys are scrambling to write a last will and to pass down my glorious belongings to next of kin!

[FM-Is that a leaf]

You got red checked, what do you think about that?

So we have Mr Pain as triad according to Bones--

Oh and I just saw he literally admitted to be guilty lol. And he kinda confirms Forgotten Bones by doing so? Well, that's neat.


Also I'm curious: @FM-Tesseract @FM-Mr Pain what is your read on me?

because even a "flawless" lie detector can still generate false positives. Lie detectors are very finnicky in mafia. im not confortable in trusting just your interpretation of the text

"Being town" is the standard expression used in Mafia in all communities (except the ones that call town "village"). I really don't think that's an issue, considering the host will not lie unless made to do so by a role.

[FM-Purple]

Oh you did vote me. OK good, thought you were voting Mr Pain. Right on! Let's go baby, let's go! My attorneys are scrambling to write a last will and to pass down my glorious belongings to next of kin!

Next of kin? Did you just slip being in a group?

[FM-Tesseract]

Next of kin? Did you just slip being in a group?

You caught me. I am in a majority faction. We like to party and enjoy wine and romantic sunsets in our town. Unfortunately, there are not many belongings I can pass down, but I hope ya'll enjoy my some rocks!

[FM-Purple]

Was gonna say the same thing in the opposite direction, with players in the POE voting you so we can get confirmed scum in a small-ish group of people.

Who were the players in the “POE” voting SOMETHING at that time?

[FM-Purple]

I distinctly remember Tesse claiming to be miller'd, but they retracted it.

With that knowledge, I heavily doubt that they are actually a miller.

This makes Tesse and Kitty unaligned, i dont think a partner puts another in the spot like that.

I say this with low confidence after i saw what Mr Pain pulled with Kitty and SOMETHING though.

[FM-Purple]

thread is quiet cause' wolves are shitting themselves in their chat ;)

Kitty attempted to pocket me here appealing to my ego, how cute.

[FM-Purple]

-vote FM-inconspicuous man

This and Tesse are probably aligned if incon flips packscum.

Ok Kitty and Tesse are not aligned unless Kitty were specifically hard bussing Tesse here.

I need to look at interactions between Kitty/Tesse now.

[FM-Purple]

Tesse says they softed miller in their first post.

I don't see a miller soft here.

Yah Kitty worked hard to discredit Tess, which means Tess is not a Triad.

[FM-Purple]

Which means Tess is definitely from another scum party or a solo scum.

[FM-Purple]

I unvoted Pain because he was already being voted by others and I made it very clear he was a rvs vote (and we were out of rvs), and I didn't agree with the people voting them for their over the top going after SOMETHING for a tmi slip. But yeah, I'm definitely the ladder as opposed to the former.

This sounds genuine. I dont think a wolf ties themselves to another when the other wolf is being heavily scrutinized for a weak push on SOMETHING.

[FM-Father and Sun]

This sounds genuine. I dont think a wolf ties themselves to another when the other wolf is being heavily scrutinized for a weak push on SOMETHING.

Aren't you the main component of the multiple scum factions theory?

[FM-Father and Sun]

This sounds genuine. I dont think a wolf ties themselves to another when the other wolf is being heavily scrutinized for a weak push on SOMETHING.

I'm very hesitant on clearing anyone, like you did, for interactions with others.

This is multiball

[FM-Purple]

Aren't you the main component of the multiple scum factions theory?

So? We can try to figure out who is team with who based on interactions.

[FM-Purple]

I'm very hesitant on clearing anyone, like you did, for interactions with others.

This is multiball

Im not. Thinking this way only leads to chaos. We gotta start somewhere and if we arecwring then we'll reevaluate

[FM-Purple]

If we are wrong**

[FM-Purple]

Besides, im not clearing anyone, im analyzing who may be aligned with the other or not.

[FM-Father and Sun]

So? We can try to figure out who is team with who based on interactions.

Yh that's true but your more finding ppl who aren't paired so far.

It's like when you cleared pain despite being a proponent of this multinall theory from the start

[FM-Father and Sun]

Besides, im not clearing anyone, im analyzing who may be aligned with the other or not.

You cleared pain

[FM-Purple]

If your immune to post modifiers then why do you insist you have to post in a particular way?
Do you have some lawyer faction or some crap like that? Nothing in the rolecard you have revealed has indicated any need to post the way you do, yet you insist upon it, why is that?

Good catch actually.

CBI Agent is not aligned with Tesseract.

[FM-Purple]

You cleared pain

I didnt clear pain. I townread him! Look at that play, who does that?

Something red checks Kitty, kitty fights back and starts a thunderdome with SOMETHING, there was already hesitation built around SOMETHING for maybe Kitty get away with it due to SOMETHING claiming sending a death tailor (which by the way i will never understand thst choice as town), then Mr Pain comes along, clears SOMETHING by confirming their role! Destroying Kitty's counter.

Who does that? Lol